Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question

2013-09-09 Thread Larry Lee
Would it be helpful if the individual's chronology events were in bold and
other people in the list were not? Or maybe they could be in italics to
differentiate them more clearly. I can hear the questions re why does his
event have a minus 3, etc.



Larry Lee
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On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Sherry/Support
wrote:

> Because the list is in chronological order. If the spouse was born before
> the individual, the the spouse would be listed before the individual.
>
> The negative number represents the number of years before the main person
> was born.
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Barbara  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Yes, my spouse was born then, but what I don't understand is why on my
>> chronology it is he who is listed first.  Is that just the way Legacy is
>> set up?
>>
>> Barb
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Kathy Thompson 
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 09, 2013 7:06 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question
>>
>>  Was your spouse born on Sept 23 1930 by any chance?
>> My spouse appears before me in my timeline, with a negative number,
>> because he is older than me.
>>
>> Otherwise, I see nothing there to show your *Marriage *appearing before
>> your *Birth*
>>
>>
>> On 9 September 2013 20:26, Barbara  wrote:
>>
>>> I hve update 7.5.0.270
>>>
>>> Dates:
>>> At the top of the page:  "Parents
>>> Next line:  "Life Range 13 Nov 1931 to present"
>>> Next line:  "-11930 Sept 23  Spouse"
>>> Next line:  "1931 Nov 13Birth"
>>> Next line:  "1940Residence"
>>>
>>> All dates appear to be correct.  Perhaps in one of the "set-up files"  I
>>> need to delete a checkmark.
>>>
>>> Barb
>>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Families App

2013-09-14 Thread Larry Lee
Michelle gave the best answer. I use it primarily as a quick database
viewer. Would only edit with it to correct an obvious error.

Larry Lee
Sent from my Nook
On Sep 14, 2013 5:23 AM, "Michele Lewis"  wrote:

> Many times I have been out and about and would have liked to have been
> able to look something up in my file.  I really don’t plan to do much
> editing in it but rather just to have it with just in case.  When I go to a
> major repository I take my laptop with me.
>
> ** **
>
> Michele
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 14, 2013 8:04 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Families App
>
> ** **
>
> Is it honestly worth the money to buy it and time learning to use it,
> especially if the plan is only to use it at a library (or the like)
>
> ** **
>
> On 14 September 2013 21:56, Candace Wilmot  wrote:**
> **
>
> Yes, I have 5 different files on my phone.
>
> ** **
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michele Lewis 
> wrote:
>
> Can the Families App handle more than one Legacy file?
>
>  
>
> Michele
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging on the Family Screen

2013-10-22 Thread Larry Lee
Dave,

Do a search for individuals with Tag 1. You may only have one.

In Family View do Search > Find > Detailed Search >
Look for Whom? - Individual
Where to look - Tag 1
How to look- Equal to
What to look for  - Tagged
Click clear list before this search
Click Create List button

Larry Lee
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Dave Johnson  wrote:

> I cannot remember how to use the "Ind. Tag 1" on the bottom of the family
> view.  When I click on the left arrow, I am taken to the top of the Tag 1
> list.  When I click on the right, I am taken to the end of the list.  Is
> there a reasonable way I can proceed from the first of the Tag 1 list to
> the end without jumping from front to back?
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] digest mode?

2013-11-03 Thread Larry Lee
Don't want to hijack a thread and it is slightly off topic so no replies
please.

Re: Email on smartphones - I use gmail and removed it from my phone
primarily because it could drop the battery charge from 100% to 43% within
an hour and it was hard to read on the small screen.

I now use it on my NookHD+ tablet which doesn't have the battery issue and
the 9 inch screen is excellent for readability.

Larry Lee
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On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Mike Fry  wrote:

> On 2013/11/03 15:03, Holly Knott wrote:
>
> > Thanks, everyone, for your input on digest mode. Since this isn’t a
> super active
> > list (which I didn’t know til now), getting individual messages
> shouldn’t be too
> > much of a problem. I’m on some other lists where you could easily see
> 50-100
> > messages a day, which can really also clog a mobile phone when trying to
> weed
> > through to get to other messages.
>
> Ah! Thought that might be the case :-) In my opinion, phones,even smart
> phones,
> should not be used for email purposes. The screens just aren't large
> enough.
> Tablets may just about be acceptable.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg (g)
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor book report - spouse events

2013-11-20 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Paul,

You said 'use in anger' is a common enough phrase. FYI - I am a 66 year old
American if that makes a difference and I had never heard this phrase used
in this manner so I Googled it here
http://www.englishforums.com/English/SourceExpressionAnger/jkkzb/post.htm

Now I understand what you were saying.  I too read this as you were using
Legacy with disdain. Remember these User Group lists are international and
not everyone understands all the phraseology in every post..

Rarely do the majority of people on this list criticize others. I have
received more support from this list than any other I have used. Give it a
chance and I think you will agree.

Larry Lee
 On Nov 20, 2013 6:24 AM, "Paul Richardson" 
wrote:

> What's this, pick on a new user and new member to the forum!
>
> Ron, when I said 'use in anger' was wasn't referring to me being angry,
> just the fact I'm trying to use the program to its fullest capability. It's
> a common enough phrase.
>
> I e-mailed my problem to the forum hoping to find other people who've
> encountered similar issues with book reports and perhaps receive practical
> and useful advice. Instead it seems some people have nothing better to do
> other than criticise and what I say and my experience so far with Legacy.
> If this is the purpose of the forum then I'm very disappointed and will
> probably unsubscribe.
>
> I didn't think my question was unreasonable and I certainly didn't expect
> criticism.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Ron Bernier 
> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> You keep saying that you are using the program in anger.  If Legacy or
>> any program is causing you anger, then don't use it.  Nobody is forcing you
>> to use a program in anger.  You claim to be a programmer, maybe you can
>> write your own program that will not cause any anger for you.
>>
>> Ron Bernier
>> Woonsocket, RI
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Paul Richardson <
>> pl.richards...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> We use doxygen for producing some pretty decent looking manuals for our
>>> software products. I agree its not the easiest to use, and can be a bit
>>> quirky at times but in the end it works and it means every time a change is
>>> made to the software the manual reflects this change provided the
>>> developers follow a simple set of rules. In this way the manual is always
>>> up to date and matches the software.
>>>
>>> In the case of family research, its all very well collecting lots of
>>> facts and spending lots of money in researching ancestors, storing it away
>>> in some database, but until you publish this information in some way,
>>> either on the internet or in a book, then no one else in your family is
>>> aware of the extend and wealth of knowledge you've discovered and there-in
>>> lies the crux of family history.
>>>
>>> I've only used 2 family history packages in anger. Generations which is
>>> no more and Legacy. I bought Legacy because of the reviews which indicated
>>> it was the best of all of them at producing reports, but the issues I have
>>> found by trying to use it in anger has left me wondering that if this is
>>> the best, then there's a heck of long way to go.
>>>
>>> Based on my recent experiences I think I'll submit some of the issues
>>> encountered to the Legacy developers.
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Mike Fry  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2013/11/20 03:14, Paul Richardson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I'm not keen on generating pdfs or rtfs and then re-editing docs.
>>>> after all
>>>> > what's the point of the publishing center if thats what you have to
>>>> resort to. I
>>>> > also work as a software engineer and I'm used to using tools that
>>>> generate
>>>> > manuals from basic text and information in the code, so if we can do
>>>> this for
>>>> > the software industry I'd have though it could have been done in
>>>> Legacy as well.
>>>>
>>>> For the price, what you get with Legacy is cheap. If you want something
>>>> a bit
>>>> more professional-looking, the solution is going to cost you money that
>>>> you
>>>> could probably better spend on more res

Re: [LegacyUG] If this is find-a-fault week --

2013-11-20 Thread Larry Lee
Sheryl,

This sounds like a great idea. You should suggest it on the Home Page under
support.

Larry Lee
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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:16 PM, singhals  wrote:

> I looked at it, yes, Sherry.  But, as the name suggests,
> it's only surnames?
>
> Cheryl
>
> Sherry/Support wrote:
> > Did you try the Surname Summary in Reports under the Books/Other tab?
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Sherry
> > Technical Support
> > Legacy Family Tree
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, singhals  wrote:
> >> Is there a GOOD kludge to get a COUNT of each name in the
> >> database -- as in, how many SMITH surnames, how many John
> >> forenames etc etc?
> >>
> >> I mean, sure, I can print-to-csv an alpha list, parse it in
> >> xcel, and run a count that way, but an older version of a
> >> different program /used/ to print me such a list
> >> automagically in about 4 keystrokes.
> >>
> >> Cheryl
> >>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Splitting a Family File

2013-11-25 Thread Larry Lee
David,

This wasn't my thread but I found this in the archives.
http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg11124.html

I think that is what you are asking for.

Larry Lee
 On Nov 25, 2013 1:49 PM, "David Bryant"  wrote:

> Brian,
> Where can I find Dave's directions (that you comment below)?
> Txs
> David in Mesa, AZ
>
>
> > From: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting a Family File
> > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:49:17 -0500
> >
> > At step 12 in Dave's directions he tells you to choose the entire
> > ancestor line for the copy. If there are cross connections due to
> > intermarriages in those ancestral lines then that option will select
> > descendants of those connected ancestor lines. That can cause Legacy to
> > include extra lines because of those descendants.
> >
> > At step 12 change your selection to Direct line ancestors only. That
> > will prevent those extra descendants from being included.
> >
> > Brian
> > Customer Support
> > Millennia Corporation
> > br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????

2013-11-27 Thread Larry Lee
Elizabeth,


>From the help files, search for "Symbols" shows in topic Family View: *What
do the Little Symbols Mean?*

...

.

A "*+*" at the end of a child name means that person has children.  There
is at least one more generation of descendants on that line.

A "*§*" at the end of a child means that person is married but has no
children.

...


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>  Elizabeth,
>
> § is called the *section sign*,
> also called double S, hurricane, and the legal doughnut.
> It is a typographical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical>character 
> used mainly to refer
> to a particular 
> section<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_%28documents%29>of a document,
> such as a legal code.
>
> This answer is from wikipedia.org via google.
> I asked google "what is §".
>
> Google is your friend.
>
> JimS
>
> On 11/27/2013 02:43 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>
>I can't find what this means in the help file...
>
>  Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at the
> end of their name that looks like 2 "S"s on top of each other. It's a
> 'squiggly' looking thing,
>
>  I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting everybody
> but no matter what I do that symbol is still there.
>
>  Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it?
>
>  Thank you,
>  Elizabeth
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

2013-11-27 Thread Larry Lee
Wm,  Jay, et al,

Good ideas coming from several users already.  Submit your enhancement
ideas from the Home Page as they may not get picked up from the list due to
volume.

Larry Lee
 On Nov 27, 2013 6:57 PM, "Wm Voss"  wrote:

>  You can download pdf2html from SourceForge (free, open source). Drop the
> pdf on the .exe and it generates the pages. The upside is that you have
> all the data in place; the bad is that the table structure is lost because
> of the pdf coding, so you will have to do that yourself -- not too odious
> if you have a good editor and some talent for regular expression search
> and replace.
>
> Its just a shame the report doesn't start with a blank slate and allow
> you to choose what statistics you want instead of deselecting all the
> stuff you don't.
>
> Wm Voss
>
> On 27-Nov-13 5:44 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>
> Thanks,ÂÂ
> Not sure why I missed that at first glance...
>
>  But still would be nice to export/print to an .htmlÂÂ
>
>  JayÂÂ
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Wm Voss wrote:
>
>>  Statistic Report (Reports/Other), run preview and then select PDF to
>> save.
>>
>> Wm Voss
>>
>>  On 27-Nov-13 4:30 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>>
>> I really like the new Statistics data.ÂÂÂÂ
>>
>>  But I would like to save this info in some format,ÂÂÂÂ
>> preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site pages
>> with.ÂÂÂÂ
>>
>>  But even saving the data to a .pdf would be ok.ÂÂÂÂ
>>
>>  Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest lived,
>> etc) the name of the person should be included in the saved document.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>>  JayÂÂÂÂ
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

2013-11-28 Thread Larry Lee
Mike,

If that is correct isn't it possible to get different list management to
resolve the problem?

Larry Lee
 On Nov 28, 2013 1:21 AM, "Mike Fry"  wrote:

> On 2013/11/28 06:21, Bryan Pratt wrote:
>
> > I wonder if it’s not time that Support sorted this problem. There are
> probably
> > thousands of mailing lists working perfectly well. By this hiccupping
> along
> > Legacy is denying assistance to many people. I’ve had the same problem
> > negotiating subscriptions, and frankly in this modern day and age it
> shouldn’t
> > be a saga that it presently is.
>
> In general, I would agree. But, I seem to recall that the mailing list is
> not
> under control of the people that matter and is managed by some 3rd-party.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg (g)
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

2013-11-28 Thread Larry Lee
Mike,

The cost of happier customers.

But I don't know about the cost /benefit ratio.

Larry Lee
 On Nov 28, 2013 1:59 AM, "Mike Fry"  wrote:

> On 2013/11/28 10:36, Larry Lee wrote:
>
> > If that is correct isn't it possible to get different list management to
> resolve
> > the problem?
>
> Should be, but at what cost to Millennia?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg (g)
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Getting my Legacy 8 refund

2013-11-30 Thread Larry Lee
Betty,

There is a huge volume of mail right now due to the recent release of
version 8. As others have said you can temporarily unsubscribe for some
period of time or depending on your email program you might be able to set
a filter for the legacy user group address to send all email directly to
Trash. Then reset or remove that filter when you want to continue getting
email from the list.

Personally, I just tick the checkbox next to topics that I don't have any
interest in then hit the Trash button and they are gone. This way I can
still read the ones that are of interest to me interspersed with the others.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Betty Jean Fritts wrote:

>  Why am I getting 50 more or less emails each day from Legacy?  I do not
> need any of them at present. Please quit sending them.
> bjfri...@smt-net.com
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Lloyd Hite 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Getting my Legacy 8 refund
>
> On 11/30/2013 12:09 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
>
> Checking your spam folder is a good idea. My email from Legacy went there.
> I ordered last Wednesday afternoon, and received my customer number within
> 24 hours, and that was on American Thanksgiving! In any case, I’m sure
> sales can get you your code.
>
> I always check my spam when looking for mail.
>
> Lloyd
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] event sorting

2013-11-30 Thread Larry Lee
Ron,

You said >> Most of the complaints could be solved easily and quickly if
folks would spend a little time using the help files.

True enough.

In this day and age of instant information it seems a lot of people have
lost interest in reading help files and would rather have someone hand
them the answer. Having said that, if the help system worked like Google
there might be more people willing to use it.


Larry Lee
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ron Bernier wrote:

>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Sherry/Support <
> she...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
>
>> You can turn off the automatic sorting.  In Options > Customize,
>> select your choices in option 2.2
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sherry
>> Technical Support
>> Legacy Family Tree
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Gene Young  wrote:
>> > I have just noticed some extremely bad behavior in Legacy 8.
>> >
>> > In V7, I would select to sort events by date and the events would first
>> sort by date then by the order in which events were entered in the event of
>> duplicate dates.  This was and is the desired effect.
>> >
>> > In V8, however, it first sorts by date, as it should.  Then, unasked,
>> it sorts alphabetically in the case of identical dates.  If I wanted it to
>> sort alphabetical I would ask it to do so.  This is absolutely not
>> acceptable behavior.
>> >
>> > I have not found anything in the help files on how to stop this
>> behavior.Time for a problem report.
>> > --
>> >
>> > Gene Young
>>
>
> It would appear that once again the programmers wasted their time creating
> a help file and a user manual.  So many people complaining to the list that
> this or that feature isn't working correctly or they don't like how the
> feature is working.  Most of the complaints could be solved easily and
> quickly if folks would spend a little time using the help files.
>
> Ron Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7 free two questions

2013-11-30 Thread Larry Lee
Cheryl,

For Q2. If you have all the individuals you are trying to find in the
census tagged, for example #3, all you need to do is have that tag #3 as
one of those displayed in the individuals window in Family View then click
on it to untag it.

Can't help with Q1.

Larry Lee
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:15 AM, singhals  wrote:

> Yes, yes, I know I'm so far behind the curve it's scary, but
> since you've all solved all the old problems, one of you
> must remember how to do these things.
>
> Q 1:  IS there an easy way to find and mark people who have
> more than one line of descent from an ancestor?  I know one
> line has some /serious/ pedigree-collapse, but I don't
> remember enough details to do this manually.
>
>
> Q 2: CAN individuals be untagged one-at-a-time? I'm trying
> to work my way down an unnecessarily (imo) long list of
> people for whom I still need the 1940 census data.  I'd like
> to be able to UNtag each one I find as I find it.
>
> Cheryl
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] event sorting

2013-11-30 Thread Larry Lee
Gene,

I would agree with Paul since it is assumed that we do not know the birth
order of children with blank dates, therefore alphabetic is preferred.

IF you know the birth order of one or more of the children with blank birth
dates you have a couple options: 1/ Order them manually and DO NOT use the
auto-sort feature or 2/ use about, circa or between birth dates to keep
them in the correct birth order, then you can still use the auto-sort
feature.

I prefer option 2 since it tells me that I know the birth order but I still
need to find the exact date.

Larry Lee
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Paul Gray  wrote:

> Gene,
>
> I would agree that V8 is doing it differently, I disagree that it is
> wrong. In fact, it sounds to me that the date then alpha sort is superior.
> It gives a known result every time.
>
> The secondary sort based on date entered will gave random results from
> person to person depending upon happenstance in the way the data was input.
>
> Paul Gray
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com]
> Sent: November-30-13 10:05 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] event sorting
>
> I have just noticed some extremely bad behavior in Legacy 8.
>
> In V7, I would select to sort events by date and the events would first
> sort by date then by the order in which events were entered in the event of
> duplicate dates.  This was and is the desired effect.
>
> In V8, however, it first sorts by date, as it should.  Then, unasked, it
> sorts alphabetically in the case of identical dates.  If I wanted it to
> sort alphabetical I would ask it to do so.  This is absolutely not
> acceptable behavior.
>
> I have not found anything in the help files on how to stop this
> behavior.Time for a problem report.
> --
>
> Gene Young
> Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
> With Legacy Family Tree
> http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7 free two questions

2013-11-30 Thread Larry Lee
In the Standard version there are only 3 tags available. All 9 are in the
Deluxe version only. But the process is identical in either version.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Kurt Kneeland  wrote:

> Your second quest is yes and it's easy.  In Legacy8 the full set of 9 tags
> appear on the Family View for both the husband and wife, also appear on the
> Indivdual view and on the Pedigee view.  Also 3 of the 9 show on the Name
> List.  Which 3 are shown can be selected under Advanced Tagging or
> Customize General Option 1-5.  An individual tag can be toggled on and off
> at any of the places it is shown.  There is also a set of 9 Marriage Tags
> that show in marriage block of the Family View, on the Pedigree View, and
> on the Marriage data entry screen.  3 of the 9 are shown on the Marriage
> Index screen, but the selection is tied to the ones you've selected for the
> Individual Tabs.
>
> As I'm writing this, I've noticed another minor bug.  When you go to
> Options->Customize->General Settings and scroll down to 1.5 Tagging
> Options, it always says "Currently showing 1, 2, 3".  If you go into Tags
> to Show, the true current settings are displayed, and when you exit, the
> "Currently showing ..." message is updated.
>
> I need to research your first question further.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 12:15 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] v7 free two questions
>
> Yes, yes, I know I'm so far behind the curve it's scary, but since you've
> all solved all the old problems, one of you must remember how to do these
> things.
>
> Q 1:  IS there an easy way to find and mark people who have more than one
> line of descent from an ancestor?  I know one line has some /serious/
> pedigree-collapse, but I don't remember enough details to do this manually.
>
>
> Q 2: CAN individuals be untagged one-at-a-time? I'm trying to work my way
> down an unnecessarily (imo) long list of people for whom I still need the
> 1940 census data.  I'd like to be able to UNtag each one I find as I find
> it.
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] event sorting

2013-11-30 Thread Larry Lee
Gene,

I was working in the child list when I read and answered your post so I
related to that. Sorry for the confusion.

Larry Lee
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Gene Young  wrote:

> On 11/30/2013 2:08 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
> > Gene,
> >
> > I would agree with Paul since it is assumed that we do not know the
> birth order of children with blank dates, therefore alphabetic is preferred.
> >
> > IF you know the birth order of one or more of the children with blank
> birth dates you have a couple options: 1/ Order them manually and DO NOT
> use the auto-sort feature or 2/ use about, circa or between birth dates to
> keep them in the correct birth order, then you can still use the auto-sort
> feature.
> >
> > I prefer option 2 since it tells me that I know the birth order but I
> still need to find the exact date.
> >
> > Larry Lee
> > ldlee...@gmail.com <mailto:a...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
>
> Larry,
> I have no idea what you are talking about.  I was talking about EVENT
> sorting.  That has no connection to Child sorting.
>
>
> --
>
> Gene Young
> Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
> With Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy8 Custom Colors

2013-12-03 Thread Larry Lee
Virginia,

I am fairly certain this is a bug as it was reported previously. Hopefully
someone from Support will be able to verify this.

Larry Lee
Sent from my Nook
On Dec 3, 2013 12:49 AM, "Virginia Dunham"  wrote:

> In the Family View screen, I have been able to set all of the colors to
> ones of my choosing ... except for the color of the text in the
> individual's "window". (Birth-Baptism-Death-etc).
>
> In 7.5, I had that text in blue. I have not been able to duplicate that in
> 8.356. The odd thing is when I click on "Custom Colors" and select that
> text, it will show as blue...then when I click to save the
> change, the Individual's photo blanks out and when it reappears, the text
> turns back to black.
>
> Is it me? ... or is this a bug?
>
> Virginia
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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-11 Thread Larry Lee
In addition not everyone has a mouse with a wheel and many of us use a
laptop with a touchpad. Scrolling with a touchpad is not ideal. Please
bring back the hover box.

Larry Lee
 On Dec 10, 2013 1:39 PM, "Virginia Dunham"  wrote:

> I am also in total agreement that the "hovering" box should be brought
> back.
> There are many families who have more than 6 children...and on my family
> view, six is the optimum amount displayed. This means I must scroll to see
> the complete list of children. The convenience of the hovering box was you
> could see the particulars of any child without the need to scroll...and
> with the children's "area" set on "best fit columns", the complete family
> is viewable from one screen.
> Please bring the hovering boxes back.
> Virginia
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM, unique64 Riley  wrote:
>
>> I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take
>> a quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the
>> parents too.
>> Monique
>>
>> > From: landw...@wilsen.de
>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over
>> children in upgrade to version 8
>> > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:16:01 +0100
>> >
>> > porter schrieb am 10.12.2013 18:02:
>> > > If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have
>> complained to support. Bring the feature back.
>> > >
>> > > Porter Rockwell
>> > >
>> >
>> > But why? With the new scrolling list it's rather redundant. I would
>> > rather see they spend their man-years in fixing the new list ...
>> > double-click instead of single-click on children, scrolling with mouse
>> > wheel etc.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sebastian
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Update - 800-361

2013-12-12 Thread Larry Lee
C. G.,

This is one of the frustrating peccadilloes of the rapid update process.
About the best one can do is to look at the list of subjects discussed
between the last update you installed and the current one and pay close
attention to the ones you have raised or are particularly interested in.

Due to the volume on the list since v8 was released it is difficult to stay
abreast of all the changes. To use a phrase I abhor - It is what it is.

Larry Lee
 On Dec 12, 2013 5:46 AM, "C.G. Ouimet"  wrote:

> A new Update …
>
>
>
> Like most of the recent updates, the Revision History simply reads
> “Miscellaneous Fixes”. So, no idea what’s changed …
>
>
>
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
>
> Kingston ON
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree View - Pop-Ups

2013-12-14 Thread Larry Lee
Brian, et al,

Possible BUG v361GR Deluxe

After individually unchecking and saving the following:

Disable option 1.6 Display Tooltips; the tooltip still pops up.
Disable option 1.6 Display Quick Names List; the names lists still pop up.

Can you confirm this?

Larry Lee
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Brian/Support
wrote:

> There are actually two settings for two different "things" a tool tip
> and an Info box. 1.7 controls the pop up of an info box which should
> list all the details for the person and a list of their spouse(s) and
> children. The small box with the name and lifespan is a tool tip which
> is controlled by option 1.6 tool tips.
>
> With Option 1.7 set to open automatically after 8/10 of a second I see
> the box I describe along with the tool tip box. Try setting your option
> 1.7 to must click on name then try clicking on a name in Pedigree View
> to see the box. Maybe then when you change back to pop up automatically
> it will work as it should.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
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>
>
> On 11/12/2013 1:40 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> > According to Legacy 8 Help, "If you move the cursor over any name on the
> > Pedigree View for a second or more, a small information box pops up
> > showing the date and location of the person's birth..."
> >
> > In Customise 1.7 I have checked "Pop-up automatically after 8/10 of a
> > second."
> >
> > However, when I am in Pedigree View and hover the mouse over anyone's
> > name the only information which pops up is a repeat of what is already
> > showing, ie the person's name, UserID and lifespan.
> >
> > Have I missed something?
> >
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] links in Legacy 8 not working

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
Kim,

It was your original post under
"Re: [LegacyUG] links in research guidance no working" and it was answered.

Larry Lee
 On Dec 15, 2013 4:08 AM, "Mike Fry"  wrote:

> On 2013/12/15 12:57, Kim Jones wrote:
>
> > Hope this is where I come to find out if the links in the research
> guidance are
> > still supposed to work.
> > Was doing some checking out at research guidance on the Legacy 8 program
> and
> > found that a link on the suggested sources on the Goal: Birth tab for
> Boyd;s
> > Marriage Index, 1538-1840 has a link that cannot be found!!!  Are links
> from the
> > program supposed to work or is it just there for looks?
>
> Asked previously - and answered. Check the message archives.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg (g)
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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
Jenny,

This is the main reason I don't use SourceWriter often although I do like
the fill in the blanks templates. Most of my sources are from Online
databases. The main problem I have like the OP is knowing which one to use
that provides the needed information.

I know you do not have to use all the fields in a given template but like
your example some are almost ideal for a given source.

My issue is the time and effort it takes to find a template I like from the
plethora of choices. Therefore I usually give up and use a Basic source
with the need to type a lot more and then likely not provide the complete
information.

My wish would be for a simpler way to find Online templates particularly.
As it is there are 100's of suggestions to choose from.

Larry Lee

On Dec 15, 2013 4:14 AM, "Jenny M Benson"  wrote:

> I don't know why you have to "add in the extra details ..." as you say
> you do.  For Births I use the template Birth records>Birth
> certificate>England>Birth certificate, index>Online database and the
> Source Details includes fields named Volume, Page, Registration month,
> Registration Year and Registration District and there are similar ones
> for Death and Marriage. .



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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
It certainly hasn't been my experience. Obviously I have difficulty
determining which level to use. Guess I'll just have to practice more.

Larry Lee
Sent from my Nook
On Dec 15, 2013 6:04 AM, "Jenny M Benson"  wrote:

> On 15/12/2013 12:11, Larry Lee wrote:
> > My issue is the time and effort it takes to find a template I like from
> > the plethora of choices.
>
> I concede that this would be a problem if one had to read down a long,
> long list of possible templates, but I think the system of "levels" with
> limited choices at each level usually makes finding an appropriate
> template a fairly quick and easy task.
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
Paul,

Yes I think there is a problem here, hopefully Brian can verify this.

>>I can see the arrows on the husband, wife, and parents (as your graphic
illustrated) if I start family view with one of the other's children's
views set, and I then change the view to scrolling list. I can navigate up
and down the generations and the arrows continue to display.

This is what I had done previously.

>> Similarly, if I exit Legacy with the children's list set to scrolling
list (making it my default view) when I restart Legacy in family view the
arrows don't appear.

This just happened to me as well, with option 1.8 checked,  when I first
opened the sample file to follow what you said. So there is a BUG.

My screenshot was from changing the children's view on the fly.

Larry Lee
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Paul Gray  wrote:

> Hi Larry,
>
> I can see the arrows on the husband, wife, and parents (as your graphic
> illustrated) if I start family view with one of the other's children's
> views set, and I then change the view to scrolling list. I can navigate up
> and down the generations and the arrows continue to display.
>
> However, if I then leave family view (say go to pedigree view) and then
> return to family view, there are no arrows for husband, wife, parents.
> Similarly, if I exit Legacy with the children's list set to scrolling list
> (making it my default view) when I restart Legacy in family view the arrows
> don't appear.
>
> Was your screen print from the first scenario I described (changing
> children's view on the fly), or based on a permanently set children's view
> of scrolling list?
>
> Paul Gray
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
> Sent: December-14-13 11:33 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'
>
> Paul,
>
> They are showing up on the sample file for me.
>
> Do you have option 1.8 checked?
> Maybe you have a color combination that makes them hard to see. On my
> screen they are grey on a dark green and are a little hard to see.
>
>
>
>
> Larry Lee
> ldlee...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Paul Gray  wrote:
> Brian,
>
> OK, I understand why they don't show up on the children's grid list.
> Actually though, I wasn't even looking at the kids, I was looking at
> husband, wife, and parents. There are no arrows anywhere on the family view
> screen when child scrolling list (grid) view is selected.
>
> I can always go to pedigree view for the parents and grandparents, I guess.
>
> Paul Gray
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> Sent: December-14-13 8:31 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'
>
> This is by design. The Grid is like a spreadsheet display of data from the
> data base. There is no way to add extras like the arrow graphics for LFS
> links like we can in the children lines of family view.
>
> I do not see any arrows on the pop up children lists in pedigree view
> either. Yes they are on the people in the pedigree view but not on the grid
> lists in the pop up.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
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>
> On 12/12/2013 3:12 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
> > The FS arrows beside names are not appearing in Family View when the
> > children's list view display option is set the new 'scrolling list
> (grid)'
> > format. All is fine if the children's list view is any of the old
> > options ( 1, 2, 3 or best fit columns).
> >
> > The arrows are there in pedigree view, regardless of children's list
> option.
> >
> > Option 1.8 Integrate with Family Search is checked.
> >
> > Clicking On Family Search in the ribbon or quick access bar still
> > opens Legacy FS properly, it's just a display issue I believe.
> >
> > Release 8.0.0.361, Legacy FS Release 8.0.543 but I think this was
> > happening before.
> >
> > Paul Gray
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Icons are to light.

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Brian,

I just tried this and concur.

The icons in the FV are pale, however, the ones with data are colored and
those without are b&w by design.

The ones in the Individuals view (IV) are brighter for sure.

I changed my background color to be the same in both views to be sure. I
suspect this might be due to the icons being small on the IV and being
larger (stretched) on the FV. But am not sure about that.

Hopefully someone else might provide a better answer.



Larry Lee
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Brian  wrote:

> Hello,
>I'm running the current full version of Legacy 8.
> On family view, the icons below the individuals data, (sources, wives,
> siblings, notes, pictures etc)
> are very light, hardly any difference between the lite(have data) and
> not lite(no data),
> very different from Legacy 7.
>On the open individuals screen, the icons are very distinguishable,
> as they were in Ver 7.
> Is this the way it should be,or do I have a problem?
>Thanks for the advice,
>Brian
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search and Legacy

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
Syble,

I agree with everything you said, except I don't think Family Search Trees
will be sold since they are produced by the LDS church.

Larry Lee
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Syble Glasscock wrote:

> *Yes, Family Search is now free, and I've greatly benefited by their
> website and work, I've volunteered some, but, I too am frustrated with
> their trees, just as I am with ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com> trees, so
> many duplications and so many errors, it's a daunting task trying to get
> the corrections made.  *
> *Many of us also have spent many hours adding to Findagrave, yes it too is
> free, but for how long, as many of your know it's now been sold to
> Ancestry.com. My fear is that Family Search will also be sold, so I've
> decided it's not worth the effort and I've added very little to Findagrave
> since I heard of the sale, I've gained much from that website also.  I'm
> all about helping and  even paying for sponsorship of  pages or trees, but
> having others to pay for what I've freely given is not fair in my opinion.*
> *Syble*
>
>
>   On Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:02 PM, Paul Gray <
> graypa...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Bryan,
>
> I sometimes get frustrated with the quality of FS Family Tree data, but it
> is what it is. It will only get cleaned up if we do it, no one else will.
>
> The main reason I correct and merge records of my ancestors is that I want
> the data on my ancestors to be correct and widely available for future
> generations. I believe Family Search to be the best bet to be a system that
> is maintained and available indefinitely. And it is free to all. I am not
> LDS so I don’t use any of the ordinance tracking.
>
> It will take time. I’m only looking at direct ancestors (grandparents) for
> now. No uncles, aunts, cousins etc. Yet.
>
> I’m in no rush. When it gets overwhelming, I remember the old saying. “How
> do you eat an elephant?”. “One bite at a time.”.
>
> But, there are many who feel as you do. Just uncheck options 1.8 and 1.9
> and you won’t even know it’s there.
>
> Paul Gray
>
> *From:* Bryan Pratt [mailto:brya...@slingshot.co.nz]
> *Sent:* December-14-13 8:46 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Cc:* Legacy
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Family Search and Legacy
>
> After ploughing along for some hours (a lot of hours) working with my
> Legacy family file and Family Search’s database, I’ve decided I’m not going
> to do Family Search’s work of spending copious hours of cleaning up their
> rubbishy data collection.
> I started out hoping to help FS - I have benefitted from a lot of their
> data - and then to also pick up more data for my own family file.
> But no longer am I going to trawl through for example 15 odd Margaret’s
> because they could be duplicates of my (already surnamed ) Margaret.  The
> FS database needs to be cleaned out of idiotic entries like using the
> above: e.g  “Margaret, born, such and such date. Is yours the same?”, when
> you have already inputted that she was born in Ireland and married in USA.
>
> The FS program is so user unfriendly. No ability to copy/paste for edit
> fields (except keyboard), the merge colours are hopeless to differentiate,
> the continuous re-check of duplicates is so time consuming; to name but a
> few.
>
> I’m not an LDS member, and I feel we are being used to sort their agenda.
> Somehow in this amalgam of Legacy and Family Search, I feel I’ve ended up
> being a servant of the LDS to further their end.
>
> The Legacy Family Tree software and the religious agenda need to be
> separated.
>
> Bryan
> NZ
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
John,

I don't want to litter the LUG with this.

I have been plagued by organization structure in Windows 7 (and in paper
filing) and find the addition of Libraries to be more confusing to me than
helpful. I still like the old DOS structure.

Your Strategy:

Since I don't have a separate D partition could I replicate your D
structure by creating a "Legacy Data" file under My Documents?

That is I would use "Legacy Data" in lieu of D:, and not have your top
level "Legacy Family Files". I could then set Option 6.1 to the "Legacy
Data" folder. If so could you send me a listing of your D: file tree that I
could pattern after?

I might also create another folder "All Other Data" where I could save all
data files making backup much simpler.

Backups:

I have an external drive I use to backup my laptop and our main PC files. I
just used the windows backup command however when I needed to restore some
but not all of the backup files after we had to have Windows 7 reinstalled
by a MS tech person in India over the phone (2+ hours!) I now find it
cumbersome to find the desired backup files to copy back into our clean(er)
C: drive.

Can you recommend a good third party backup program that is easier to use
and less confusing?

Cloud stuff:

I have concerns about putting ALL my personal data in the cloud. Should I
be concerned? Probably not since the IRS and NSA can see everything anyway
and there is NO security for electronic medical info with Obamacare. Not to
mention video cams everywhere nowadays. I'm afraid George Orwell's
precognition in 1984 has come to pass. He just had the date wrong.

Other than cost what is the difference between Carbonite, Dropbox and
SkyDrive? I am using MS Office 365 which includes SkyDrive.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM, John B. Lisle  wrote:

>  Glenn,
>
> Let me share my strategy for Legacy folders. Maybe it will give you ideas
> about what you want to do.
>
> The best - and ONLY in my perspective - place to install Legacy is in your
> Windows Program Files folder. What goes in there are all of the static
> files that will not change during program execution. In some cases, you
> have the default files that you use to restore defaults.
>
> Then there is a series of Legacy program data files. These are files that
> Legacy does use during the execution of the program. This is where your
> settings files are saved. These files are "hard-coded" to go in your My
> Documents folder. You have no choice. HOWEVER, you can use Windows to move
> your whole My Documents folder to a different location; eg, to another
> partition on your hard drive. I have done that as I have partitioned my
> hard drive into a C and D partition and I have my Carbonite Cloud backup my
> whole D drive constantly.
>
> Your My Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder does contains a Data and a
> Media folder which are the defaults for where you store your data.
>
> I prefer to have a top level folder on my D drive as the location where
> all of my 50 or so Family Files are organized. I name it something like
> "Legacy Family Files". I set Option 6.1 to this folder. Then I can easily
> navigate from one FF to the next.
>
> --> The structure I am about to describe is optimized because I work with
> so many FFs AND because I use TNG to web publish so I want to organize the
> media for easy upload to TNG.
>
> Within that folder, I have a series of folders for each of the family
> files I work with. Within each of those folders, I have sub-folder for
> gedcoms, backups, reports, charts, media, etc. Then within the media I have
> sub-folders photos, documents, headstones, histories, etc. to correspond to
> TNGs media organization. You can set Option 6.2 for each Family file to the
> corresponding top level media folder that family uses.
>
> The strategy is based on separating program, program data, and personal
> data. It works for me, but it might not work for anyone else.
>
> ok?
>
> john.
>
>
> At 12:05 PM 12/15/2013, Glenn Woodman wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks again for additional info.  You replied:
>
> "The program is by default installed in Program Files (X86). Sorry if I
> caused any confusion. The Program data that Legacy changes during its
> operation is in My Documents. You can move - and I recommend it - the
> location of your family files and media to another folder anywhere on your
> computer."
>
> Interesting.  Where do you suggest putting the location of family and
> media files?  From the beginning I was sure if I liked having those files
> stored under the Documents folder.  With all previous versions, I rather
> liked having these files stored under the Legacy folder.  There could 

****** PLEASE IGNORE - SENT IN ERROR ***** Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-12-15 Thread Larry Lee
Sorry LUG Listers

This was sent to the list in error as I didn't want to tie up the list with
it. Just delete it. Thanks.

Larry



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour

2013-12-18 Thread Larry Lee
Sherry,


But it should work *exactly* the same as it does in the name list!
Consistency throughout a program is important.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Sherry/Support <
she...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> Click on the scroll bar on the right.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, R G Strong-genes
>  wrote:
> > But how do you get it to scroll without clicking first, or does the list
> > have to be a full screen before the list will scroll?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sherry/Support
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:33 PM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
> >
> > When you click on a child in either scrolling or the original view,
> > that does move the child to the focus spot.
> >
> > You would scroll through the list to view the child you want to get
> > more info on.  You can't edit in that list except by a right click and
> > selecting Edit - or by moving the child to focus.
> >
> > The double-click option has been removed
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Sherry
> > Technical Support
> > Legacy Family Tree
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Home Tab - Updates

2013-12-18 Thread Larry Lee
I use Gmail and also get a warning.

Larry Lee
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Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double

2013-12-19 Thread Larry Lee
Ara,

This issue is important to some of us, myself included as I use a laptop
with a touchpad. I am drafting a reply to this as we speak.

If this issue bothers you or is of no concern just note the subject and
delete them without reading them!

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Ara Call  wrote:

>   How many times do we have to hear the same complaints from you???
>
>
>
>  *From:* C.G. Ouimet 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:45 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double
>
>
> Well, I do not like the single click thing …
>
>
>
> When in Family View if I want to highlight an individual to then switch to
> the Pedigree View based on that individual, I now end up opening and having
> to close that individual’s edit window before switching to the intended
> Pedigree View …
>
>
>
> Perhaps I’m old school but, new school isn’t always better school …
>
>
>
> Also, right clicking isn’t consistent … Sometimes you get the pop-up menu,
> sometimes the edit window …
>
>
>
> My $0.02 …
>
>
>
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
>
> Kingston ON
>
>
>
> *From:* John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com ]
> *Sent:* December 19, 2013 04:44 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
>
>
>
> Marion,
>
> Let me comment on 2 side items you mention ...
>
> 1/ Every new build of Legacy right now is fixing many issues. You may see
> a focus in the announcements on a particular issue, but right now, a lots
> of little tweaks are coming in as a response to issues raised on this list
> and elsewhere. Maybe hold back a day to make sure there are no humongous
> problems, but best to move forward. We have seen people reporting on issues
> this week on the initial L8 build as they never updated.
>
> --> When you report an issue with Legacy on this list, please try to
> announce what version of Legacy yo are reporting again, what build, what
> Windows OS you are using. It turns out that some of the folks with problems
> updating the GeoDB had the problem because they were using a Windows 7 32
> bit OS. And that made a difference.
>
> 2/ I was one of the loudest grumblers on the Test team when the
> programmers had to take out double click navigation. By now, my fingers
> have learned single click and actually now prefer it. Double-click
> navigation has always been somewhat un-reliable in Legacy but with the new
> L8 Family View it was completely unusable. Sigh... So, no, I do not think
> it can, or should, come back.
>
> john.
>
> At 07:00 AM 12/19/2013, 2marion wimps wrote:
>
> Sherry,
> I have gone to the Brown Gradient Colours now to see if it makes a
> difference (I had my own colours in place as I had set them up for 7.5) but
> in grid view the blue highlight on the first child is still red and does
> not change to white.
>
> There is no highlight by using and of the columns view or the best fit
> view but I like the information on the grid view. Also you cannot scroll
> with the mouse on this view unless you go to the Mother, then the Father,
> then back to the Mother - and then the mouse scroll works (I realise I can
> use the scroll bar on the right hand side but the mouse is an automation
> reaction!)
>
> If I go to the two, three or best fit view and right click on a child the
> highlight colour is bright blue and the writing underneath is still red. I
> set the colours for text males as blue and females as red with Unknown as
> black - I assume this would not have anything to do with it
>
> At the moment I am on .364 - the later build looked as though it was
> mainly concerning the geo basis but I can try that build if you think it
> will make any difference.
>
> Also the highlight is still there on the Potential Problems screen as well.
>
> (As an aside I also miss the two click - it is probably force of habit but
> everything on my computer has my brain trained to double click to open) to
> my mind it is a time saving issue more than anything else (albeit will be
> argued by some that the time taken to do two clicks to edit someone from
> the child list is minimal it is obvious that others are also finding it
> frustrating. Do you think that it could ever be brought back?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marion
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double

2013-12-19 Thread Larry Lee
David,

Minor correction.

A single click on a highlighted person in the Husband/Wife section of FV
causes the Individual Information form to open, anywhere else it moves that
person to the Husband/Wife section with focus (highlighted).

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, David Newton
wrote:

> Oddly I don't have this problem. A single click on any name in the
> family view puts them into focus (husband or wife, or whatever words you
> are using) and then a click on the Pedigree Tab gets them into the root
> of the pedigree view. Ditto right-click always brings up the pop-up menu.
>
> However, I had a similar problem in 7.5 and it turned out to be caused
> by a windows utility I was using to control my dual monitors!!
>
> David
>
> Using Build 8.0.0.366 & Windows 8.1
>
>
>
> On 19/12/2013 22:45, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
> > Well, I do not like the single click thing …
> >
> > When in Family View if I want to highlight an individual to then switch
> > to the Pedigree View based on that individual, I now end up opening and
> > having to close that individual’s edit window before switching to the
> > intended Pedigree View …
> >
> > Perhaps I’m old school but, new school isn’t always better school …
> >
> > Also, right clicking isn’t consistent … Sometimes you get the pop-up
> > menu, sometimes the edit window …
> >
> > My $0.02 …
> >
> > C.G. Ouimet
> >
> > Kingston ON
> >
> > *From:*John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
> > *Sent:* December 19, 2013 04:44 PM
> > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
> >
> > Marion,
> >
> > Let me comment on 2 side items you mention ...
> >
> > 1/ Every new build of Legacy right now is fixing many issues. You may
> > see a focus in the announcements on a particular issue, but right now, a
> > lots of little tweaks are coming in as a response to issues raised on
> > this list and elsewhere. Maybe hold back a day to make sure there are no
> > humongous problems, but best to move forward. We have seen people
> > reporting on issues this week on the initial L8 build as they never
> > updated.
> >
> > --> When you report an issue with Legacy on this list, please try to
> > announce what version of Legacy yo are reporting again, what build, what
> > Windows OS you are using. It turns out that some of the folks with
> > problems updating the GeoDB had the problem because they were using a
> > Windows 7 32 bit OS. And that made a difference.
> >
> > 2/ I was one of the loudest grumblers on the Test team when the
> > programmers had to take out double click navigation. By now, my fingers
> > have learned single click and actually now prefer it. Double-click
> > navigation has always been somewhat un-reliable in Legacy but with the
> > new L8 Family View it was completely unusable. Sigh... So, no, I do not
> > think it can, or should, come back.
> >
> > john.
> >
> > At 07:00 AM 12/19/2013, 2marion wimps wrote:
> >
> > Sherry,
> > I have gone to the Brown Gradient Colours now to see if it makes a
> > difference (I had my own colours in place as I had set them up for 7.5)
> > but in grid view the blue highlight on the first child is still red and
> > does not change to white.
> >
> > There is no highlight by using and of the columns view or the best fit
> > view but I like the information on the grid view. Also you cannot scroll
> > with the mouse on this view unless you go to the Mother, then the
> > Father, then back to the Mother - and then the mouse scroll works (I
> > realise I can use the scroll bar on the right hand side but the mouse is
> > an automation reaction!)
> >
> > If I go to the two, three or best fit view and right click on a child
> > the highlight colour is bright blue and the writing underneath is still
> > red. I set the colours for text males as blue and females as red with
> > Unknown as black - I assume this would not have anything to do with it
> >
> > At the moment I am on .364 - the later build looked as though it was
> > mainly concerning the geo basis but I can try that build if you think it
> > will make any difference.
> >
> > Also the highlight is still there on the Potential Problems screen as
> well.
> >
> > (As an aside I also miss the two click - it is probably force of habit
> > but everything on my computer has my brain trained to double click to
> > o

Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double

2013-12-19 Thread Larry Lee
C.G., et al,


As promised here is my post regarding this issue.


In most Windows programs single-clicking selects (or highlights) an object,
while a double-click executes the function associated with that object.

On a laptop touchpad the double-click is called "double-tap", in most cases
invoking the same actions as the double-click with a mouse.

I use Legacy exclusively on my Laptop and even with the sensitivity reduced
unfortunately,
it is very easy to accidentally single-tap
 which moves the person to the center or if highlighted it opens the
Individual Information form. And other spurious things as C. G. mentioned.

Very disturbing at least to me and likely other touchpad users.

.As C.G. has pointed out this is truly irritating and causes unnecessary
navigating. It should follow the Windows standard functionality.

Please return this standard usage to single and double clicks in FV and
anywhere else it is non-standard.



Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:45 PM, C.G. Ouimet  wrote:

> Well, I do not like the single click thing …
>
>
>
> When in Family View if I want to highlight an individual to then switch to
> the Pedigree View based on that individual, I now end up opening and having
> to close that individual’s edit window before switching to the intended
> Pedigree View …
>
>
>
> Perhaps I’m old school but, new school isn’t always better school …
>
>
>
> Also, right clicking isn’t consistent … Sometimes you get the pop-up menu,
> sometimes the edit window …
>
>
>
> My $0.02 …
>
>
>
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
>
> Kingston ON
>
>
>
> *From:* John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com ]
> *Sent:* December 19, 2013 04:44 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
>
>
>
> Marion,
>
> Let me comment on 2 side items you mention ...
>
> 1/ Every new build of Legacy right now is fixing many issues. You may see
> a focus in the announcements on a particular issue, but right now, a lots
> of little tweaks are coming in as a response to issues raised on this list
> and elsewhere. Maybe hold back a day to make sure there are no humongous
> problems, but best to move forward. We have seen people reporting on issues
> this week on the initial L8 build as they never updated.
>
> --> When you report an issue with Legacy on this list, please try to
> announce what version of Legacy yo are reporting again, what build, what
> Windows OS you are using. It turns out that some of the folks with problems
> updating the GeoDB had the problem because they were using a Windows 7 32
> bit OS. And that made a difference.
>
> 2/ I was one of the loudest grumblers on the Test team when the
> programmers had to take out double click navigation. By now, my fingers
> have learned single click and actually now prefer it. Double-click
> navigation has always been somewhat un-reliable in Legacy but with the new
> L8 Family View it was completely unusable. Sigh... So, no, I do not think
> it can, or should, come back.
>
> john.
>
> At 07:00 AM 12/19/2013, 2marion wimps wrote:
>
> Sherry,
> I have gone to the Brown Gradient Colours now to see if it makes a
> difference (I had my own colours in place as I had set them up for 7.5) but
> in grid view the blue highlight on the first child is still red and does
> not change to white.
>
> There is no highlight by using and of the columns view or the best fit
> view but I like the information on the grid view. Also you cannot scroll
> with the mouse on this view unless you go to the Mother, then the Father,
> then back to the Mother - and then the mouse scroll works (I realise I can
> use the scroll bar on the right hand side but the mouse is an automation
> reaction!)
>
> If I go to the two, three or best fit view and right click on a child the
> highlight colour is bright blue and the writing underneath is still red. I
> set the colours for text males as blue and females as red with Unknown as
> black - I assume this would not have anything to do with it
>
> At the moment I am on .364 - the later build looked as though it was
> mainly concerning the geo basis but I can try that build if you think it
> will make any difference.
>
> Also the highlight is still there on the Potential Problems screen as well.
>
> (As an aside I also miss the two click - it is probably force of habit but
> everything on my computer has my brain trained to double click to open) to
> my mind it is a time saving issue more than anything else (albeit will be
> argued by some that the time taken to do two clicks to edit someone from
> the child list is minimal it is obvious that others are also finding it
> frustrating. Do you think that it cou

Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double

2013-12-19 Thread Larry Lee
David,

You are correct. There is no need to click a highlighted person a second
time.

My problem with the touchpad is it very easy to accidentally open the Ind.
View. A double click/tap would prevent this from accidentally happening
unless I am falling asleep at night then all bets are off as to what might
happen.


Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM, David Newton
wrote:

> My apologies I didn't explain explicitly. A single click on someone who
> is not in focus puts them into focus. If they are already in focus there
> is no need to click again just select the pedigree tab.
>
> David
>
> On 19/12/2013 23:53, Larry Lee wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > Minor correction.
> >
> > A single click on a highlighted person in the Husband/Wife section of FV
> > causes the Individual Information form to open, anywhere else it moves
> > that person to the Husband/Wife section with focus (highlighted).
> >
> > Larry Lee
> > ldlee...@gmail.com <mailto:a...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, David Newton
> > mailto:davidnew...@drdavid.plus.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Oddly I don't have this problem. A single click on any name in the
> > family view puts them into focus (husband or wife, or whatever words
> you
> > are using) and then a click on the Pedigree Tab gets them into the
> root
> > of the pedigree view. Ditto right-click always brings up the pop-up
> > menu.
> >
> > However, I had a similar problem in 7.5 and it turned out to be
> caused
> > by a windows utility I was using to control my dual monitors!!
> >
> > David
> >
> > Using Build 8.0.0.366 & Windows 8.1
> >
> >
> >
> > On 19/12/2013 22:45, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
> >  > Well, I do not like the single click thing …
> >  >
> >  > When in Family View if I want to highlight an individual to then
> > switch
> >  > to the Pedigree View based on that individual, I now end up
> > opening and
> >  > having to close that individual’s edit window before
> switching
> > to the
> >  > intended Pedigree View …
> >  >
> >  > Perhaps I’m old school but, new school isn’t always
> better
> > school …
> >  >
> >  > Also, right clicking isn’t consistent … Sometimes
> you get the
> > pop-up
> >  > menu, sometimes the edit window …
> >  >
> >  > My $0.02 …
> >  >
> >  > C.G. Ouimet
> >  >
> >  > Kingston ON
> >  >
> >  > *From:*John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com
> > <mailto:leg...@tqsi.com>]
> >  > *Sent:* December 19, 2013 04:44 PM
> >  > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> >  > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>>
> >  > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
> >  >
> >  > Marion,
> >  >
> >  > Let me comment on 2 side items you mention ...
> >  >
> >  > 1/ Every new build of Legacy right now is fixing many issues. You
> may
> >  > see a focus in the announcements on a particular issue, but right
> > now, a
> >  > lots of little tweaks are coming in as a response to issues
> raised on
> >  > this list and elsewhere. Maybe hold back a day to make sure there
> > are no
> >  > humongous problems, but best to move forward. We have seen people
> >  > reporting on issues this week on the initial L8 build as they
> never
> >  > updated.
> >  >
> >  > --> When you report an issue with Legacy on this list, please try
> to
> >  > announce what version of Legacy yo are reporting again, what
> > build, what
> >  > Windows OS you are using. It turns out that some of the folks with
> >  > problems updating the GeoDB had the problem because they were
> using a
> >  > Windows 7 32 bit OS. And that made a difference.
> >  >
> >  > 2/ I was one of the loudest grumblers on the Test team when the
> >  > programmers had to take out double click navigation. By now, my
> > fingers
> >  > have learned single click and actually now prefer it. Double-click
> >  > navigation has always been somewh

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour

2013-12-20 Thread Larry Lee
I beg to differ.

I don't want to have to put up with the weird colors or the weird clicks.

They should both be fixed!

Larry Lee
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM, C.G. Ouimet  wrote:

> Tell you what … Get used to the weird colours and I’ll get used to the
> weird clicks … OK?
>
>
>
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
>
> Kingston ON
>
>
>
> *From:* Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net]
> *Sent:* December 20, 2013 07:48 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
>
>
>
> In Legacy v8Deluxe, build 367, I have the dark blue highlight over blue or
> red text (depending on gender) when right-clicking on a child (best-fit
> columns) in family view.  It is not very readable, and would be MORE
> readable if the text color actually changed to white underneath that dark
> blue highlight.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Kirsty Haining
>
> Seattle, WA
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com <2wi...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:44 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
>
>
>
> Sherry - the letters underneath are not white - they are still the same
> colour (either red or blue depending on whether it is male or female).
>
>
>
> John - I wasn't "reporting" an issue - I was asking if anyone else had the
> same highlight colour and whether I could change it at all. I have already
> reported an unrelated problem to Support who are working through it for
> me. This was just a query as to whether there was something I could change
> in settings. Obviously the blue highlight cannot be changed - now I have to
> work out why my letters are not changing to white when the line is
> highlighted as Sherry says they should.
>
>
>
> As I posted I am on .364 - the latest version concerned the Geo problems -
> the highlight and the non changing colour for the letters has been there
> since Day 1 and has no changed in each update. There are always teething
> problems with all new updates on nearly every programme - it is just a
> matter of sorting through what can be altered on this side of the fence.
>
>
>
> Marion
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double

2013-12-20 Thread Larry Lee
Kristy,

Thank you for your response.

The problem isn't so much where I deliberately click. It is that while
dragging my index finger across the touchpad (moving the cursor) I can all
to easily get a spurious tap (click).

If the single click did not open the Individual Information form it would
not be so maddening. It is much less likely to accidentally double tap. I
just wish it would work the standard way it does in most Windows programs.

Larry Lee
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Kirsty M. Haining wrote:

> Perhaps you can re-train yourself as the WHERE you are placing the single
> click?  I was having trouble at first with trying to change focus and
> instead ending up in individual edit mode. Once I started training myself
> to click in the name area of the family view to change focus (instead of
> the vital statistics area), I stopped having the problem of ending up in
> individual edit when I wasn’t intending to do so.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Kirsty Haining
>
> Seattle, Washington
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:25 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double
>
>
>
> David,
>
>
>
> You are correct. There is no need to click a highlighted person a second
> time.
>
>
>
> My problem with the touchpad is it very easy to accidentally open the Ind.
> View. A double click/tap would prevent this from accidentally happening
> unless I am falling asleep at night then all bets are off as to what might
> happen.
>
>
>
>
> Larry Lee
>
> ldlee...@gmail.com
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>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double

2013-12-21 Thread Larry Lee
Thanks C. G.

That makes 2 of us.  Anybody else?

Larry Lee
 On Dec 21, 2013 3:45 AM, "C.G. Ouimet"  wrote:

> Exactly! “I just wish it would work the standard way it does in most
> Windows programs.“ …
>
>
>
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
>
> Kingston ON
>
>
>
> *From:* Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* December 20, 2013 10:12 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double
>
>
>
> Kristy,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
>
>
> The problem isn't so much where I deliberately click. It is that while
> dragging my index finger across the touchpad (moving the cursor) I can all
> to easily get a spurious tap (click).
>
>
>
> If the single click did not open the Individual Information form it would
> not be so maddening. It is much less likely to accidentally double tap. I
> just wish it would work the standard way it does in most Windows programs.
>
>
> Larry Lee
>
> ldlee...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Kirsty M. Haining 
> wrote:
>
> Perhaps you can re-train yourself as the WHERE you are placing the single
> click?  I was having trouble at first with trying to change focus and
> instead ending up in individual edit mode. Once I started training myself
> to click in the name area of the family view to change focus (instead of
> the vital statistics area), I stopped having the problem of ending up in
> individual edit when I wasn’t intending to do so.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Kirsty Haining
>
> Seattle, Washington
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:25 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single & Double
>
>
>
> David,
>
>
>
> You are correct. There is no need to click a highlighted person a second
> time.
>
>
>
> My problem with the touchpad is it very easy to accidentally open the Ind.
> View. A double click/tap would prevent this from accidentally happening
> unless I am falling asleep at night then all bets are off as to what might
> happen.
>
>
>
>
> Larry Lee
>
> ldlee...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing problem

2014-01-05 Thread Larry Lee
Jenny,

I use a free program called CutePDFWriter which installs as a printer
driver so you can choose that as your printer on the report form then
select print and it will create a PDF file which you save then print using
your real printer.

http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

Just be aware it will offer to install the Ask toolbar so deselect that
checkbox before beginning the install.

I think there are others but this is the one I have always used and it
seems to work well.


Larry Lee
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> I am visiting a couple of church graveyards to-morrow and want to take a
> list of the people whose graves i am looking for, so I created a Search
> list and attempted to print it. It is printing with white text, so
> alternate sections on a pale background are almost unreadable and
> alternate sections on a white background are totally unreadable!  It looks
> perfectly normal in Preview.
>
> I am staying with a relative and using the standard version of Legacy 8 so
> can't create a PDF to carry with me on my tablet.  Phooey!
>
> Is this more likely a Legacy problem or a problem with this laptop/printer
> setup?
>
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing problem

2014-01-05 Thread Larry Lee
Jenny,
Download it. Use it then uninstall it. Unless they want to keep it.

Larry Lee
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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt

2014-01-06 Thread Larry Lee
I agree with Kurt for calculated. I usually only use that when I have used
the date calculator.

I stick close to the dictionary definitions below.

About - near in time,  approximately.
Example: In a 1900 census a child is listed as 7 so I use about 1893 for
birth year.

Estimate - to form an approximate judgment or opinion.
Example: A child is said to be 18 months old when his sister was born and I
know her birth date is March 20, 1882 so I estimate his birth date to be
September 1880.

Calculated -  determined or ascertained by mathematical methods.
Example: A Birth Date determined from a Date of Death and an Age at Death
given in years, months and days using the date calculator.

Larry Lee
 On Jan 6, 2014 9:03 PM, "Kurt Kneeland" 
wrote:

> An example of a Calculated Date is a Birth Date determined from a Date of
> Death and an Age at Death given in years, months and days.
>
>
>
> *From:* Bob Austen [mailto:rgaus...@telus.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 8:47 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt
>
>
>
> Hi Jay,
>
>
>
> Help me out here, what is the norm for ‘calculated date’, and when/how do
> the rest of you use the term?  I’ve not seen it used for another particular
> purpose, so I am interested in knowing how you understand it and what
> others are expecting to see by that.  Would you use ‘Est’  as a guess/fill
> in date?I also use FTM and the default is to change circa/cir/c/Est/ to
> Abt.  I want to differentiate between that terminology and my guess.
>
>
>
> I don’t like to leave missing birth dates (in particular) and will most
> often put in an estimated date or a range (also an estimate/guess) to
> better sort the individual.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* Jay 1FamilyTree 
> [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com<1familytree@gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Monday, 6 January, 2014 2:39 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
>
>
> You do the rest of us a disservice by using Cal for a date that is not a
> calculated date.  Any data that comes from you will assumed to be a
> calculated date.
>
>
>
> However you use the program within your PC. and is best
> for you ..is great.
>
> But if you are going to stray from the expected or norm, please take into
> consideration that others will never know you changed the expected data.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:
>
> If a census shows age 21 in 1911 I would use 'c 1890'. (Circa/Cir/c)  I
> use Cal (Calculated) for my best guess.  In my file I know that a 'Cal'
> date was *my* guess and did not come from any other source.
>
> Bob
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Valerie B Garton [mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 5 January, 2014 10:53 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt
>
> I have now confused myself:
>
> Age 21 in 1911 census born abt/est 1890
>
> Died age 47 in 1865 born abt/est 1818
>
> Child born 1867 with no marriage for parents - marriage est/abt 1866 -
> source: marriage date assuming this is the first born child Parents of
> above child F born est/abt 1841 M born est/abt 1854 - source: birth dates
> assuming parents aged 26 and 22 at time of possible first born child
>
> Any more suggestions please ?
>
> Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt

2014-01-07 Thread Larry Lee
On Jan 6, 2014 11:17 PM, "grayscot2"  wrote:
That all sounds very responsible, but though our forebears probably were
better at "calculating" ages for days, months and years, without computers,
how accurate and conscientious were they? No doubt that is allowed for in
the term, calculated, but it's still our guestimate that they had the
information and were rigorous in their calculation.

It's all semantics.

Again using a dictionary definition:
Guesstimate or guestimate - to estimate without substantial basis in facts
or statistics.
Origin: 1935–40,  Americanism; blend of guess and estimate.

On Jan 7, 2014 12:00 AM, "Chick Lewis"  wrote:
I created a master source called "Guesstimate" and use it as the name
implies...

While that is being honest I would name the source WAG, for by definition
without being based on a "substantial basis in facts" that is all it is. No
disrespect intended.

Since the OP 's original question has been sufficiently answered and we
could continue this thread indefinitely - in the now famous words of
Forrest Gump "That's all I gotta say about that."

Larry Lee



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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date

2014-01-08 Thread Larry Lee
Jenny,

I doubt I would deliberately look for Last Modified Date however I would
look for Date or Dates and possibly Modify or Modified all of which should
have Last Modified Date as a sub entry. Of course the topic needs the
correct screenshot.

In this way a user might accidentally "discover" this feature while looking
for something else.

Larry Lee



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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date

2014-01-09 Thread Larry Lee
Brian,

When you hover in this area the box outline and tooltip appear. Do you
think it would be helpful to have the initials MD in the box and have it
permanently outlined? That way it wouldn't be completely hidden.

Larry Lee
 On Jan 9, 2014 1:38 PM, "Brian/Support"  wrote:

> Just a different way to keep something that has been available a long
> time. In 7.5 and earlier that box opened when you clicked on the date in
> the bottom of the screen. In 8.0 the date is no longer on screen so the
> hotspot box was added as a trigger point.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
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>
> On 08-Jan-2014 8:31 AM, Rich Schram wrote:
> > Wow, that's freaky. Never knew it was there. Is this a new v8 feature?
> It's kind on an Easter egg. It'd be nice if there were something visible,
> an icon or something, to alert folks it exists.
> >
> > Rich Schram
> > Geneva, IL  60134-1830
> >
> > rich.schram...@gmail.com
> > -Original Message-
> > From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:14 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date
> >
> > On 2014/01/08 09:59, Boyd Miller wrote:
> >> Where do I find the "Last Modified Date" for an individual"s data?
> >>
> >> The Help file is no help in its text because the date is not where it
> >> says - bottom right hand corner - and it uses a Legacy 7.5 screen shot
> >> which is no longer
> >
> > The Help File is very accurate on this subject. Use the Index, and enter
> 'modified' as the keyword. Top of the list should be the Modified Date
> topic.
> > Select it. Reference in bottom left of topic is 8-1052.
> >
> > Hover the mouse over the extreme right-hand, bottom corner - on the
> blank area - a box shows. Click on it.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Mike Fry
> > Johannesburg (g)
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

2014-01-10 Thread Larry Lee
Paula and C.G.,

Yes please do!

I have been suggesting this for quite a while but my pleas have fallen on
deaf ears.

I have suggested just adding it as another report which would allow
previewing, printing or saving as a PDF file.



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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Paula Ryburn
wrote:

> Submit a suggestion.  It's a great idea, and should not be a hard thing
> for the programmers to do -- surely they have the ability to look at all
> the settings when they are researching bugs, testing new code, etc.
>
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis
> Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind
> Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters
> Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
>
>   --
>  *From:* C.G. Ouimet 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 4, 2014 2:26 PM
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
>
> Is there a way to print all the settings (Options-Customize)?
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
> Kingston ON
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RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

2014-01-10 Thread Larry Lee
Brian, Kurt,  Paula,

It may not be simple Brian but it isn't complex and the usefulness
certainly makes it worth doing. I totally agree with Kurt and Paula. In
addition only options 3.9, 6.3, 9.1 & 9.2 would require color settings
blocks everything else is text.

Larry Lee
 On Jan 10, 2014 6:30 PM, "Kurt Kneeland" 
wrote:

> All the .usr files are cryptic, which is why just being able to view them
> with a text editor is insufficient.
>
> Colors would be represented as a small block of the applicable color or
> the word "text" in the applicable color on a block of the applicable
> background color.
>
> Obviously, the report would not have much meaning printed to a black and
> white printer.
>
> I think the initial impetus is for a report of all the Options->Customize
> settings, but it certainly would be beneficial to extend it to include the
> other .usr files.
>
> It would also be beneficial to have for each setting name/description (at
> least optionally) the Legacy Default, User Default, and Current Setting
> included on the report.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:03 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
>
> It may not be as simple as you think Paula.
>
> Have you ever looked inside one of the .usr files (they are plain text).
> All the report .usr files are just a list of cryptic numbers with an
> occasional path name, file name or people readable value. The program opens
> those files to write the options and reads the file when creating the
> report. What the numbers mean to the program are not documented without
> reading the code for the report or the option setup screen.
> Translating those into a user friendly report to print out would require
> quite some work. In some cases too there may be no easy translation. How do
> you translate a number representing a colour choice into something a human
> can understand when the colour palette is 16 million colours?
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
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>
>
> On 10-Jan-2014 2:22 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> > Submit a suggestion.  It's a great idea, and should not be a hard thing
> for the programmers to do -- surely they have the ability to look at all
> the settings when they are researching bugs, testing new code, etc.
> >
> > --Paula in Texas
> snip
> > 
> >   From: C.G. Ouimet 
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2014 2:26 PM
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
> >
> > Is there a way to print all the settings (Options-Customize)?
> >
> >
> > C.G. Ouimet
> > Kingston ON
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

2014-01-10 Thread Larry Lee
Sort of the Swiss Army knife or Leatherman Tool of genealogy software.

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot <
br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:

> Does anybody else think it strange to want genealogy software to also
> remind you of birthdays and anniversaries? Isn’t that why drug stores give
> out those free calendars where you just take out a pencil, open to all the
> appropriate months and days, and then write in things like “Uncle Joe’s
> b’day”? KISS
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
> *From:* Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 7:00 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
>
>
>
> I actually use the marriage tags quite a bit.  Here is a help file that I
> sent out recently to some of the local Legacy users.  It sets the marriage
> record "Anniversary Reminder" but logic to set any of the marriage tags is
> similar.  The process makes it easy to set all the Birthday Reminders and
> Anniversary Reminders for descendants of select ancestors...ie living
> cousins, etc.
>
>
>
> How to set Anniversary and Birthday Reminders for select individuals
>
> 
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

2014-01-11 Thread Larry Lee
C.G., et al,

I agree with you.

For some reason, not quite making sense at least to me, there has been a
lot of disagreement from several people including support about the
usefulness or need for this type of a report.

Back in the day they might have argued there was no need for automatic
transmissions, after all cars work just fine with a stickshift.

I have yet to hear a really good argument why we can't have this report.

Larry Lee
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On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

> My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy
> default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully
> identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a
> display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from
> Tech Support.)
>
> Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about
> Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs.
>
> Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on
> diagnostics.
>
> Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR
> files, I submitted a suggestion ... "We need a way to printout Legacy
> Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user
> could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything."
>
> Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ...
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

2014-01-11 Thread Larry Lee
Bob,

The function of options settings is such an integral part of how Legacy
performs this information needs to be internal and not developed as a third
party workaround.

Larry Lee
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On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM, BobsTree2-Gmail wrote:

> GenViewer does not show a table with the options, so where are they
> stored?  Are they in one of the Legacy files?  If in a table, which one is
> it?  If we knew where the info was stored someone might be able to create a
> utility to provide a list of the options settings.
>
> Bob Hansen
>
> On Jan 11, 2014, at 13:44, "C.G. Ouimet"  wrote:
>
> > My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy
> default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully
> identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a
> display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from
> Tech Support.)
> >
> > Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about
> Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs.
> >
> > Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on
> diagnostics.
> >
> > Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR
> files, I submitted a suggestion ... "We need a way to printout Legacy
> Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user
> could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything."
> >
> > Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ...
> >
> > C.G. Ouimet
> > Kingston ON
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-11 Thread Larry Lee
Graham, et al,

I agree this usage is very much up to the user. However, I have found much
of my information from Ancestry.com based upon searches using misspelled
names, therefore, I keep them all. I use the name I am familiar with as the
preferred name but the rest are there if ever I need them with a note about
where and when the AKA was used.



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On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Graham Lambert wrote:

>  Hi Leo,
>
> I think this a is a very individual thing.
>
> I record an AKA when my ancestors sometimes use their second name; other
> instances are when they are known for example, as Jack or Jock for John.
>
> Any of the very many spelling mistakes, I only record in the "Notes". But
> that's just me.
>
> Graham
>
> On 12/01/2014 9:51 AM, lio . wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for your replies. I'm still fuzzy on it though.
> Â
> A Scottish ancestor's birth name was Ewen, but after a few years in
> Canada he started going by Evan.
> Â
> So, I entered "Evan" as an AKA.
> Â
> Often he on documents he is recorded as "Ivan". He never signs Ivan, but
> others (perhaps having trouble with his Scottish accent) would record him
> as Ivan.
> Â
> 1. Would you record Ivan as an AKA? He never went by it, but was often
> recorded as it.
> Â
> 2. What about the times Ewen was recorded as "Ewan or Ewon". Spelling
> mistakes. Would you record Ewan and Ewon as an AKA?
>
> Sorry for asking my question again, but had to use some personal examples
> for better understanding.
> Â
> Leo
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-12 Thread Larry Lee
Wendy,

I completely agree with William.post just gave me an inspiration!

I d not see why anyone would need 5 sources to be applied at one time
either. As this could lead to major problems for the 'average' user I think
this should be an opt-in option. With a popup warning  "Are you sure Y/N?

That wasn't the inspiration. It is: rather than saving 10 sources to the
clipboard how about selecting the ones desired from the Sources Master
List? Assuming that one would not be entering from 5 new sources at the
same time.

For the life of me I cannot fathom why one would EVER need to do this!


Larry Lee
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:

> Don't forget that it is very quick to either reload a saved source, or
> copy an existing source to the Source Clipboard.
>
> I have some long projects going on, that I return to from time to time
> in-between other bits and pieces in the family tree.  Rather than
> setting up the Source Clipboard from scratch when I come back to a
> project, I recall the information from a previously-applied/saved
> source.  This ensures there are no differences that result in separate
> source citations where-ever possible.
>
> Usually, I go to someone in the tree where I've already entered data
> from the same source, and copy that source to the clipboard using the
> "Copy Source to Clipboard" icon in the bottom left-hand corner of the
> Assigned Sources window.  I then make any updates needed (usually just
> the recorded date changed to today), and it's ready to use.
>
> Alternately, I could have saved that source using the Save button in the
> bottom right-hand corner of the Source Clipboard window, and then used
> the Load button to retrieve it next time I wanted to use it.  This could
> be an answer to the situation Jenny described.
>
> I've saved one one of these long-project sources just now as I type, to
> check out how it works, and it's just as quick to load a saved source as
> it is to copy an existing source to the clipboard.  When I go to load
> that saved source back into the clipboard, I could assign it to any of
> the five source tabs I wanted to, if I was going to use more than one
> source at a time.
>
> William said in his post "This sounds like a feature that should have
> stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone
> inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies
> up to five."
>
> As I said before, I've never had a use for five sources all at the same
> time - but plenty of people here on this list have said they did when it
> was available before.  In this incarnation you have the option of
> showing one or five sources, which we didn't have before.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
>
> Kathy Thompson said the following on 13/01/2014 12:26 a.m.:
> > Thanks David, Wendy & Jenny.
> >
> > If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall.
> >
> > I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering
> > a newly found / newly source-proved family.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanations everyone.
> >
> >
> > On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson  > <mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
> > > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you
> can
> > > then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> > > database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together,
> > you can't
> > > pick and choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Which is the only way this "multi-clipboard" feature would be of
> > any use
> > to me.
> >
> > Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family,
> > including
> > perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries.  The same
> > Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail.  Being
> able
> > to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY
> > paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each
> > person is just not required.
> >
> > --
> > Jenny M Benson
> >
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-12 Thread Larry Lee
Sorry. The previous email was sent while being drafted as a separate email
and was not yet meant for posting, although it somewhat applies. Please
disregard.

For some reason an unidentified key combination causes this to happen. I
even got a new wireless keyboard since I thought this was a function of my
laptop keyboard but it still happens. Very sporadic and unpredictable.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-12 Thread Larry Lee
CE,

I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it
theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
reality.

Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the
same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
grasp this.

Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS
> of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO
> frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed
> the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times,
> I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering
> five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
> frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
> >
> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five
> sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save
> some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them.
> This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an
> accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what
> they think is one source then applies up to five.
> >
> > Bill Boswell
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> >
> > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time
> to the same items of data!
> >
> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
> Source Clipboard".
> >
> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set
> up the second one, and so on.
> >
> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.
> You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and
> choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
> useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a
> while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
> >
> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
> Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such
> time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
> >
> > Hope this helps. :-)
> >
> > Wendy
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-12 Thread Larry Lee
Michelle,

See my last post to CE regarding an example of how this is used please.

Larry Lee
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> This feature was actually in Version 6.  I used it all the time and I was
> very sad when they didn’t include it in Version 7.5.  Needless to say, I am
> now very happy again :)
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:43 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>
> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS
> of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO
> frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed
> the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I
> have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and
> even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
> frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-12 Thread Larry Lee
Jackie,

Even if you were to find 18 secondary sources that mention the same primary
source you wouldn't find or even be working with all 18 at the same time
would you? This is the part I am not understanding.

Larry Lee
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Jackie King  wrote:

> I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my multiple
> sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite the same
> original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to go back
> to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the
> documentation for myself.
>
> There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:
>
>> CE,
>>
>> I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand
>> it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
>> reality.
>>
>> Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at
>> the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
>> grasp this.
>>
>> Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>>
>> Larry Lee
>> ldlee...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>>
>>> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have
>>> SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and
>>> have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since
>>> Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too
>>> many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and
>>> effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of
>>> individuals!
>>>
>>> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
>>> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
>>> frustration saved.
>>>
>>> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>>>
>>>
>>> CE
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
>>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>>> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying
>>> five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do
>>> save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete
>>> them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds
>>> like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply
>>> what they think is one source then applies up to five.
>>> >
>>> > Bill Boswell
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
>>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>>> >
>>> > Hi Kathy,
>>> >
>>> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same
>>> time to the same items of data!
>>> >
>>> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
>>> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
>>> Source Clipboard".
>>> >
>>> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
>>> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set
>>> up the second one, and so on.
>>> >
>>> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
>>> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.
>>> You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and
>>> choose which one you'll use.
>>> >
>>> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
>>> useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a
>>> while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
>>> >
>>> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
>>> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
>>> Source Clipboard&

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-12 Thread Larry Lee
Well I haven't gotten nearly that far and I still see no use for it so I
won't bother myself with it. Thanks to those who have answered my question.

Larry Lee
Sent from my Nook
On Jan 12, 2014 8:16 PM, "CE WOOD"  wrote:

> If you have any ancestors in the mediaeval era, you would not be asking
> this question.  It is essential.
>
>
> CE
>
> --
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:08:54 -0700
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> From: ldlee...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> CE,
>
> I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand
> it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
> reality.
>
> Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at
> the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
> grasp this.
>
> Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>
> Larry Lee
> ldlee...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>
> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS
> of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO
> frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed
> the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times,
> I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering
> five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
> frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
> >
> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five
> sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save
> some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them.
> This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an
> accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what
> they think is one source then applies up to five.
> >
> > Bill Boswell
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> >
> > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time
> to the same items of data!
> >
> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
> Source Clipboard".
> >
> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set
> up the second one, and so on.
> >
> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.
> You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and
> choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
> useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a
> while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
> >
> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
> Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such
> time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
> >
> > Hope this helps. :-)
> >
> > Wendy
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-12 Thread Larry Lee
Thanks Kirsty  those examples are helpful.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

2014-01-13 Thread Larry Lee
Ron,

You are correct that Legacy is responsive to the user base. Thank you
Millennia.

This topic is much like  Lumpers vs Splitters or Apple vs PC discussions
about the 'best' way to do things. It is apparent that there are two strong
camps and this thread has helped me determine which method I prefer to use.
That is what a User Group does.

This might make an interesting blog article for Geoff.

Larry Lee
 On Jan 13, 2014 4:09 AM, "Ron Ferguson"  wrote:

> I am not at all certain as to why this subject is being discussed ad
> infinitum.
>
> The fact is that when multiple sourcing was removed there were more
> complaints about this than anything else. A substantial number of the
> silent users arose unison to condemn the action.
>
> A perfect example of Legacy giving the users what they need.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events - witnesses, clergy, doctors, etc.

2014-01-13 Thread Larry Lee
Michele is correct. This was designed this way.

In as much as this a Family File I don't need all these ancillary people in
the database since they are not related, however...

I do think it might be useful to have these names available for research
purposes since they are related at least by location.

I would like to see an option to store these names in an Ancillary table where
they would not be included in the actual family file processes but could be
accessed when desired for certain searches and reports like Location and
Shared Events.

As Michele said "Different people like to do things different ways"



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mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> My guess is that it is designed this way so that you have two different
> options (to include the person in your database or to be able to mention
> them but not include them).  Different people like to do things different
> ways :)
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Newton [mailto:lugda...@drdavid.plus.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 11:38 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events - witnesses, clergy, doctors, etc.
>
> Michele
>
> Spot on. What is the point of allowing sharing with names only if no index
> of the names is maintained anywhere?
>
> Another question is what happens to these shares when the data is exported
> via GEDCOM. I have examined a GEDCOM exported by Legacy and the data is
> there under a _SHAR tag. Obviously if you import this GEDCOM to software
> which does not support shared events (FTM2012 for example - I don't know
> about FTM2014) then the shares will be lost. Rootsmagic, however, does
> support shared events and had no problem correctly importing the name and
> role. So there is some sort of standard for sharing events. However,
> RootsMagic also had the same problem of not being able to locate the names
> not in the database.
>
> Am I wrong in thinking that it all seems a bit pointless and if you think
> you may need to refer to these names then, as you say, you must add them to
> the database or, at the very least, mention them in the event notes so that
> they can be located.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem Report - Illegal Characters

2014-01-29 Thread Larry Lee
It appears to me that she has the forward slash "/" not the vertical bar
"|".
What would happen if you put the second name in ( ) s?  I don't see them in
the forbidden character list.

Larry Lee
Sent from my Nook
On Jan 29, 2014 3:43 PM, "MikeFry"  wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2014 00:38, Dave Naylor wrote:
> > On 29 Jan 2014  Syble Glasscock wrote:
>
> >>   #6706, I have Hays/Hayes
> >
> >> I received this:
> >
> >> [6706]The following characters are not usually found in a name:
> > !@#$%^&*_ +=|\/;:><~` []{} 0123456789.
>  ^
>  |
>   What's this?
>
> >> Remove any erroneous characters.
> >
> > But you do not have any of those characters in your surname field so
> > the error message does *not* match the problem! ;-)
>
> Time for a visit to your optometrist, Dave :-)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg (g)
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Update Procedure

2014-03-04 Thread Larry Lee
Sherry, et al,
Most software I use will pop up an informative dialog when there is an
update with a button to click if you want to do the update.  Why can't
Legacy do likewise?

Of course having the  blurb showing the most recent version and the
currently installed version with the update link on the home page should be
maintained.

Larry Lee
 On Mar 4, 2014 2:59 PM, "Sherry/Support" 
wrote:

> There is no Legacy Home button. There's a Legacy Home tab but no button.
>
> In earlier versions, there was a "Home" button on the far left of the
> toolbar which took you to the Preferred Startup Family. A lot of
> people were confused with the Legacy Home tab and the Home button when
> we'd give instructions so Ken changed that button to the Startup
> Family on the "My Toolbar" in v8.
>
> It wouldn't go on the File ribbon since it has nothing to do with
> Files but has to do with going to the Preferred Startup Family set in
> Options > Customize 1.3 (You can also set the Startup Family by
> clicking on the icon on the Options ribbon)
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM, J.M. "Jay" Ingalls
>  wrote:
> > It would seem more rational to me to have the "Legacy Home" button on the
> > same line as File, Edit, Add, etc. I tend to not see it where it is.
> Could
> > it be in both places? And maybe also in the "Help" menu?
> >
> > Jay Ingalls
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Syllabus for Friday's webinar on Legacy's Sources

2014-03-04 Thread Larry Lee
Ditto.

Larry Lee
Sent from my Nook
On Mar 4, 2014 12:56 PM, "agdyson"  wrote:

> Very helpful, Geoff. Thank you for posting this. I am looking forward to
> the webinar.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 16:15, Geoff Rasmussen  wrote:
>
> In preparation for Friday's webinar about Legacy's sources, "Sources and
> Citations Made Simple, Standard, and Powerful," I've added my syllabus to
> the registration page at
> http://www.familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=201. I
> hope the handouts help some.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Update Procedure

2014-03-04 Thread Larry Lee
Sherry,
I agree but it would only pop-up with when a new update is released and it
could have the obligatory Sherry opt out option.
:-)

Larry Lee
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On Mar 4, 2014 4:14 PM, "Sherry/Support" 
wrote:

> That's a question for the programmers but personally I *hate* pop-ups
> of any kind! They get in the way of accomplishing what I set out to do
> and I find them totally annoying!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:
> > Sherry, et al,
> > Most software I use will pop up an informative dialog when there is an
> > update with a button to click if you want to do the update.  Why can't
> > Legacy do likewise?
> >
> > Of course having the  blurb showing the most recent version and the
> > currently installed version with the update link on the home page should
> be
> > maintained.
> >
> > Larry Lee
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: General Notes

2014-03-09 Thread Larry Lee
Any time data has been entered  and a  Cancel is selected there needs to be
an "Are you sure?" warning. Sometimes the cancel may be clicked in error or
maybe confusion.

Larry Lee
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On Mar 9, 2014 7:56 AM, "Pierre Simoneau"  wrote:

> In version 7.5, there was a warning.
> "If you continue you will loose changes..." "Do you continue? If YES, you
> loose, if NO, Save"
>
> PS
>
>*De :* Michele/Support 
> *À :* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Envoyé le :* dimanche 9 mars 2014 10h34
> *Objet :* RE: [LegacyUG] Re: General Notes
>
> Cancel = you want to discard what you have typed
> Save = you want to save what you have typed
>
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/
>
> *From:* Pierre Simoneau [mailto:pierre6simon...@yahoo.ca]
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:42 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Re: General Notes
>
> When I'm in GENERAL NOTES, if I click on CANCEL, it does not ask me "Save
> Before Leaving".
> Is there a place to customize this warning?
>
> PS
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Blogging webinar now available in the archives

2010-10-21 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Geoff,
Another really interesting webinar. I've enjoyed them all. You are doing a
fantastic job with them!!

Near the end I sent an off topic request relating to Clooz or a similar
program. I had downloaded Clooz to test drive but it doesn't work well with
Windows 7. Thus the question "is there a similar product that does work with
Win7 and Legacy?"

Larry Lee



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> Last night's blogging webinar, and Tuesday's Advanced Legacy class are now
> in the webinar archives at www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/webinars.asp.
>
> The special coupon code (15% off) referenced in last night's webinar
> expires
> this Saturday.
>
> Thanks everyone for participating this week. We've got one more great one
> this Saturday morning.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records

2011-03-24 Thread Larry Lee
I too used a trial. After searching for easy records that I had
already found on Ancestry and SSDI and not finding one hit on their
site I called and cancelled in less than 24 hours.

Their search was useless to me and I will not do business with them!

I believe Millenia is using them for data mining to get new
leads/subscribers for Legacy. While this arrangement may be legal it
is certainly despicable. I would not have thought Millenia would get
involved with a company that seems so unworthy.

Larry Lee



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 wrote:
>
> I too received a call from this company a few years ago,
> curosity of Legacy.
> They will lie to you and tell you they have every record you
> need to complete your search.
> They said they have more than ancestry has but are cheaper
> with discount. I told them my family didn't come to the US
> untill after 1920 so anything before is useless.
> They assured me I would not have a problem because of
> how up to date they are.
> Well took the bait but in 6 hours I realized how wrong they
> were. Census were not complete and if I recall, don't hang
> me if I'm wrong, 1930 was no where complete if any.
> There was so much missing records it was a joke.
> Next morning cancel it with no problem.
> The girl who took my information informed me the owner of
> this company use to own ancestry and was shock when I
> told her about the missing census files.
> Since I cancel they keep calling and I get tons of emails.
> What a shame we have to deal with such dishonestly
>
> Diane
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Pictures

2010-01-26 Thread Larry Lee
Marilyn,

I have been using Microsoft Office Picture Manager in Windows 7. It
seems to work fine for this. You can name the persons in the title
area, with more details in the comment area and still use short files
names. Don't know if it is available with the previous versions or
not.

Regards,

Larry

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Marilyn Streeter
 wrote:
> I have several picture of a group of people that I would like to place in
> the Legacy database I have.
> Where should I place them so they show up in the reports in their correct
> place?
> For instance I have a picture of my mother and father standing together, my
> concern is where do I place it to get the biggest bang. Right now I have an
> event called Family Picture to which I attach the picture so I can get the
> picture to show up on print outs. This event is under my mother's section.
> Another picture I have is of seven sisters in a family. How do I place it so
> it doesn't show up seven times taking up space when once should be
> sufficient and it is related to all he sisters?
> I also wish to know if it is possible to name each person in a picture so
> that my file names are not long. Right now I use Picasa 3 to do this but it
> doesn't carry over into Legacy. At least I haven't figured that out yet. Is
> there another program I could use that will interface with Legacy and do the
> same job.
> Thanks
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Using Research Guidance

2010-04-18 Thread Larry Lee
Hello everyone, this is my first post to the LUG. Been lurking for a while.

When I select Suggested Sources (tab 3) the Individual is displayed in
the upper left corner with BD info. When I highlight Family History
Library in the list at bottom left for example, then click the Website
tab I am taken to that website to do a search.

By the time I get there I may have forgotten the detail dates to
search for.  Is there a way to do a split screen or some other method
where I could see the Legacy window alongside the browser window at
the same time?  I know I can jot a note, but hey,  this is a computer.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Larry Lee



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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Research Guidance

2010-04-18 Thread Larry Lee
Ron,
I have been using Mozilla Firefox as my default browser. I used IE to
try this technique as well. I finally experimented a little more and
can get to where there are 3 windows open horizontally. The first
Welcome to Research Guidance! screen stays open by default so I have
the 2 Research windows and the website window open simultaneously.
This makes the text very tiny. Is this what is supposed to happen?

Are there any other options/suggestions?

I appreciate your help. Thanks.

Larry

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> If on the Suggested Source Screen, after highlighting the resource you
> require, you click the Globe at the bottom of the screen Family Search etc.
> will open in your default browser. Windows has a split screen view - right
> click on the Task Bar and select either "Tile Vertically" or "Tile
> Horizontally".



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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Research Guidance

2010-04-18 Thread Larry Lee
I think  that will do. Thanks for your help!
Larry

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> Larry,
>
> How the screen is divided depends on how many screens you have in the main
> view. So you obviously have 3. All you need to do is to park the ones which
> you don't want onto the task bar. So if you want the Research Guidance and
> Family Search just have those two in the main screen.
>
> There is no default btw.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> Completely rewritten and revised:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> And the Fergusons of N.W. England
> ________
>
> Larry Lee wrote:
>> Ron,
>> I have been using Mozilla Firefox as my default browser. I used IE to
>> try this technique as well. I finally experimented a little more and
>> can get to where there are 3 windows open horizontally. The first
>> Welcome to Research Guidance! screen stays open by default so I have
>> the 2 Research windows and the website window open simultaneously.
>> This makes the text very tiny. Is this what is supposed to happen?
>>
>> Are there any other options/suggestions?
>>
>> I appreciate your help. Thanks.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ron Ferguson
>>  wrote:
>>> If on the Suggested Source Screen, after highlighting the resource
>>> you require, you click the Globe at the bottom of the screen Family
>>> Search etc. will open in your default browser. Windows has a split
>>> screen view - right click on the Task Bar and select either "Tile
>>> Vertically" or "Tile Horizontally".
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Apologies

2010-07-29 Thread Larry Lee
Well said.
 I have only asked one question but have learned a lot of things I
didn't know I didn't know

Larry Lee

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Kathy Meyer  wrote:
>
> I think most people are fine with the HTML; this is the first group
> I've been a part of that has made mention of it; I find this to be a
> very restrictive group as far as "rules" and "complaints" go.  It took
> me awhile to figure out how to use the plain text (it's actually
> siimple now that I know about it) and I know my email program is set
> on plain text and I STILL got someone complaining and saying "no
> HTML!"  We need to try to follow that rule but let's not send people
> running from the group because they forgot; it's not exactly a
> "normal" setting these days.
>
> So here's my little opinion, for what it's worth.  Don't let the scary
> people on here scare you away from posting a question, that's what the
> group is for, and I've found most people to be extremely helpful and
> it has helped me immensely in using my Legacy program more
> effectively.  There are a lot of people on this list who know a lot of
> techy stuff and I'm very grateful for that. Plus the Legacy support
> people do read these and will answer your questions too.
>
> Also, whenever you ask a question, you can rest assured that there are
> at least a couple other people who would like the answer too.
> Probably way more than a couple of people.  So just be polite and
> tolerate the occasional tirade. Everybody has a bad day.
>
> Kathy
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Bain Family  wrote:
> > My apologies for the HTML.
> >
> > I have my settings at Plain Text, but apparently it reverts to the original
> > settings when my computer does its regular "maintenance" and I don't notice
> > it or think about it until I see my message come back with blue letters.  I
> > understand the reasoning for this rule, but frankly I do not participate in
> > this group as I would like to because of it -- and as I new user, I do have
> > questions!  As you can see, after sitting here for the last hour or so
> > manually sorting children one by one, and not getting past the B's, I
> > venture to ask the group a question, only to  mess up by submitting my
> > question in HTML.
> >
> > My apologies.
> >
> > ~Lana
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

2010-08-13 Thread Larry Lee
Jenny,

Just one small point.

You might want to show the RIN number as (RIN #2073) as many people
don't know what that is. If it were a RIN number less than 2010
someone may think it is a date for some purpose, e.g., 1812.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:

> Mary Jane (Doe) Bloggs, "Bloggs Family"; Compiler is a Great
> Granddaughter of Fanny Adams 2073; family tree, Ancestry
> (http://trees.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 09 March 2010).
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> The parentheses indicate maiden name, 2073 is the RIN.
>

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[LegacyUG] Double emails

2010-08-13 Thread Larry Lee
Can anyone tell me why I get 2 emails sent instead of 1?

I use gmail with Windows 7.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Genviewer website

2010-08-14 Thread Larry Lee
I have been using the trial version and had some error messages and
sent a message to serv...@mudcreeksoftware.com on   Thu, Aug 12, 2010
at 11:02 PM. Haven't gotten a reply yet, probably due to the time it
was sent but the address didn't bounce.

Does the paid version work on Windows 7?

I agree it would be useful if it worked without errors. My trial ends
tomorrow. I like what it does and plan to buy it when I hear back from
Mudcreek.

Larry Lee


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> Don't know what the problem may be, yet it is a great piece of software.
>
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> On 8/14/2010 1:20 PM, Rose Hatten wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I haven't been able to get the GenViewer website, MudcreekSoftware.com, for
>> a while.   Does anyone know if it has a new address?
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Rose
>> in Maryland
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Re: [LegacyUG] Genviewer website

2010-08-14 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Tim,

I have responded privately to you rather than tie up this thread as
GENViewer is not directly a Legacy issue.

Larry Lee

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>
> Genviewer works fine with Windows 7. What type of errors are you having
> ? I've had it for years without a problem.
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> Regards,
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> On 8/14/2010 6:45 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
>> I have been using the trial version and had some error messages and
>> sent a message to serv...@mudcreeksoftware.com on     Thu, Aug 12, 2010
>> at 11:02 PM. Haven't gotten a reply yet, probably due to the time it
>> was sent but the address didn't bounce.
>>
>> Does the paid version work on Windows 7?
>>
>> I agree it would be useful if it worked without errors. My trial ends
>> tomorrow. I like what it does and plan to buy it when I hear back from
>> Mudcreek.
>>
>> Larry Lee
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim Rosenlof
>>>
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>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I haven't been able to get the GenViewer website, MudcreekSoftware.com, for
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>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>> Rose
>>>> in Maryland
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Re: [LegacyUG] AniMap

2010-08-16 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Tim,

Just read about Map my family as well
Do you know the differences. I looked at the info and I might like Map my
family better.
Comments?
Thanks,
Larry Lee

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> The price for AniMap has not changed. It has been that 'Save $10.00'
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> pertaining to 10% off the items in the *Legacy Store*. Click on the link
> in the email.
>
> Regards,
> Tim Rosenlof
>
> (Link)
> http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1
>
> On 8/16/2010 1:43 PM, Bain Family wrote:
> > I see Legacy has a 10% off sale and I wanted to follow-up on my
> > adventures with AniMap in case anyone was interested in purchasing it --
> > now might be a good time to do so.
> > I was contacted by a person from GoldBug who helped me with the issues
> > and it appears to be working fine now. I am running it on Windows
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Re: [LegacyUG] Settings don't stay set - a pet peeve

2010-09-01 Thread Larry Lee
Gary,

Your 1st pet peeve is also one of mine. Things that are allowed to be
changed by the user should stay that way!
Hope somebody has an answer.

As far as the 2nd pet peeve I don't even know why it works the way it
does but I know there are many people here that have the same issues
whit photo locations. Glad you asked.

Regards,
Larry Lee

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> I have 2 pet peeves that bug me no end. Hopefully someone will be able to
> explain why I have this aggravation.
>
> The first is when I set the column width on the columns displayed on the
> INDEX tab they don't remain at the width I set them. The next session I
> open may or may not see them remain the same. This is especially true
> when I've shut down Windows 7 and restart the next day. The width will
> revert to a default width - meaning plenty of white space in the columns
> with fewer showing than when I narrow the width. (I have 9 columns
> defined for display. By manually defining the width by grasping the
> column marker and making the columns more narrow I can see in total all
> but the 9th one. Only a part of it displays - which is OK.
>
> The 2nd pet peeve is when adding a picture to an individual. I always
> have to redefine the path for Legacy to find where my photos are located
> (I keep them in a folder within DropBox app). Once it's redefined there's
> no problem UNTIL I shut down Windows 7. Then I have to go back and
> redefine the path again. Photos that have been attached show up on the
> individuals show up normally, it's just when I get ready to add something
> new.
>
> I don't understand why these situations occur. Anybody got any ideas or
> need more (better) explanation of the situation?
>
> Thanks
>
> gc
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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate name recording

2010-09-02 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Lea-Anne,

Welcome to the list

I'm fairly new as well. I record the name that I am first aware of for
the individual. When I find alternate names I enter them as AKA's then
when I find a birth certificate etc. there is a button that allows you
to swap this name as the preferred name that shows in the displays.

Regards,

Larry Lee

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> learning all its good points.
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> I have imported my file from PAF.   My question relates to which is
> the best way to record the different spelling of my ancestors name.
> Due to illiteracy the name has been spelt different ways depending on
> who recorded it eg. parish register, census returns.  And finally the
> way my gr grandfather's name was recorded on his birth registration.
> Going back 2 or 3 generations before that is where the differences
> occured.   Is the name as recorded on the birth record the "main" name
> and the way is it spelt on other records during his/her life the
> alternate name or do I use the name I know now and list all the others
> as alternate names.
>
> Also upon reading other emails on this list, I hope that I have been
> able to convert this email to plain text.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lea-Anne Davison
> Bargara
> Queensland
> Australia
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[LegacyUG] Legacy Production

2010-09-05 Thread Larry Lee
A non-genealogical friend sent me a DVD of his life story. It is
basically a slide show of scanned photos and documents with background
music. I like the idea and now would like to do something similar,
using Legacy.

I don't know if this is the proper place to ask this - Are there any
recommendations for Legacy/Animap compatible software to do this
production?

Any thoughts or comments appreciated.

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[LegacyUG] Adulterine offspring

2010-09-05 Thread Larry Lee
Does anyone know how to handle this situation in Legacy?

I have a man who had twins, a boy and girl, by a woman who was never
his wife. He was married at the time.

I know how to add half brothers and sisters but Legacy requires a
wife, married or not. I don't want the relationship to show as a
Marriage.

How do I input this data to show them as his children with her? They
will be marked as private since they are all living. He is open about
the relationship within his family and personal friends so that is not
a problem.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Adulterine offspring

2010-09-05 Thread Larry Lee
Lana,

That was exactly what I did only it still shows her as his 4th wife
(him having 3 "proper" marriages). I was hoping not to show an actual
marriage relationship but I may have to and then change the sentence
as you suggest.

Larry Lee
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> How about if you add the mother as if she were a wife, but then edit the
> marriage by ticking 'This couple did not marry' in the Marriage Information
> area under the General tab?  You can then go to the Wording Options tab and
> word it as you like.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adulterine offspring

2010-09-05 Thread Larry Lee
Kathy,
Hopefully there will be a good solution out there somewhere.

Maureen,
I did check the did not marry box, but it still shows her on the list
of marriages as wife #4, and on hers as marriage #2.
I am thinking of adding an Event for Relationship or Amorous Fling
):-0   but then the children won't show up as his or hers.

Larry Lee
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> Larry,
>
> When you input the couple, when the time comes to input the date, in the upper
> lefy hand corner is a little check box which reads "This couple did not 
> marry".
> Check that and it will mark the marriage area accordingly.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Maureen
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Larry Lee 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 9:46:23 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Adulterine offspring
>
> Does anyone know how to handle this situation in Legacy?
>
> I have a man who had twins, a boy and girl, by a woman who was never
> his wife. He was married at the time.
>
> I know how to add half brothers and sisters but Legacy requires a
> wife, married or not. I don't want the relationship to show as a
> Marriage.
>
> How do I input this data to show them as his children with her? They
> will be marked as private since they are all living. He is open about
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> a problem.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adulterine offspring

2010-09-05 Thread Larry Lee
THANK YOU JAN !

That worked - on the screen I show them as Father and Mother and the
wording shows Relationship!
And the children are properly attached to them and labeled as twins.

Everything is now copacetic.

Larry Lee
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> Kathy,
> Hopefully there will be a good solution out there somewhere.
>
> Maureen,
> I did check the did not marry box, but it still shows her on the list
> of marriages as wife #4, and on hers as marriage #2.
> I am thinking of adding an Event for Relationship or Amorous Fling
> ):-0   but then the children won't show up as his or hers.
>
> Larry Lee
> I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Maureen Lake  wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> When you input the couple, when the time comes to input the date, in the 
>> upper
>> lefy hand corner is a little check box which reads "This couple did not 
>> marry".
>> Check that and it will mark the marriage area accordingly.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message 
>> From: Larry Lee 
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 9:46:23 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Adulterine offspring
>>
>> Does anyone know how to handle this situation in Legacy?
>>
>> I have a man who had twins, a boy and girl, by a woman who was never
>> his wife. He was married at the time.
>>
>> I know how to add half brothers and sisters but Legacy requires a
>> wife, married or not. I don't want the relationship to show as a
>> Marriage.
>>
>> How do I input this data to show them as his children with her? They
>> will be marked as private since they are all living. He is open about
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>> a problem.
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Re: [LegacyUG] one world tree on ancestry

2010-09-06 Thread Larry Lee
Michele,
I found this address- it might be of help
http://boards.ancestry.com/

As far as the comment from tech support goes, just remember "it's not
personal, it's just business"

Brian,
I agree with you completely.

Larry Lee
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Michele S  wrote:
>
> The reason I asked is because I thought it was how people put their family 
> trees on ancestry.  I thought one world tree was how people put their family 
> trees up on ancestry, using programs like Legacy.
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Jim Terry/Support  
> wrote:
>>
>> This discussion has strayed from the use of Legacy Family Tree and its 
>> add-on programs.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jim Terry
>> Legacy Technical Support
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:45 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one world tree on ancestry
>>
>> You should make a suggestion that Millennia revise the Legacy program to
>> remove the Research Guidance tab, along with all references to lineage
>> linked database sources which include "WorldConnect" (RootsWeb), Ancestry
>> World Tree (Ancestry.com), Kindred Konnections (MyTrees.com), Ancestral File
>> (FamilySearch.com), and several others that are all found on those tabs
>> within the Legacy program.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-24 Thread Larry Lee
Works fine for me also.
Larry



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Tim Rosenlof  wrote:

> Not here. After check/repair, it opened the correct file without asking
> to open another.
>
> Tim Rosenlof
>
>
> On 2/24/2012 10:31 AM, Alan Pereira wrote:
> > Check Repair on completion now asks if you want to open a different
> family file in the New window?
> > No!
> >
> > Not a bug but will get very annoying.
> >
> > Alan Pereira
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Status of suggestions, Sherry?

2012-02-24 Thread Larry Lee
Sherry,

Would it be possible to have an auto responder reply to the submitter
stating the suggestion has been recieved and listing an assigned log
number for reference? That would certainly make followups less trouble
to find as in this case.

Larry Lee



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
>
> Just go ahead and suggest it again. Indicate that it's possibly an
> amendment to a previous suggestion.  We'll sort it out.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Paula Ryburn
>  wrote:
> > Sherry,
> > I think I have submitted a suggestion for an update to the Lineage Report,
> > but I don't remember if I did or not.  And *if* I did, I would like to
> > review what I requested and possibly update it.  Is it possible to see a
> > list of suggestions? by email address?  Or should I just go ahead and
> > suggest it again?
> >
> > Also, may I send you a question off-list?  Well, it would be two questions.
> >
> > --Paula in Texas
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding children's birth places to family view

2012-03-04 Thread Larry Lee
I believe the way the children list functions now with pop up list of
the details is the best combination and satisfies the issue without
having to display each child separately.

Larry Lee



On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:27 AM, mbstx  wrote:
> I have many families with 10+ children.  Incorporating birthplaces on the 
> family view would make it virtually impossible to view all the children at 
> once (something I now do by splitting them into 2 or 3 columns).  I vote for 
> knowing who the children are, with simple options such as have been mentioned 
> to see where and when they were born.  Mariannne
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Mike Fry 
>>Sent: Mar 4, 2012 2:42 AM
>>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding children's birth places to family view
>>
>>On 2012/03/04 04:36, unique64 Riley wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the ideas. I still would like to be able to see the children's
>>> birthplaces right on the family view, but am very glad to have a couple of
>>> different options!
>>
>>Screen-estate is a precious commodity! I don't think that there's the space on
>>the window or the physical screen for most people to accommodate your wish.
>>
>>--
>>Regards,
>>Mike Fry
>>Johannesburg
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] 7.5.0.165 - MRIN Not Showing on Family Group Record

2012-03-08 Thread Larry Lee
Kay,

I am using the same version and all is well.  Turned them off - OK.
turned them back on - OK.

Larry



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Kay Fordham  wrote:
> Family Group Record
>
> Have selected "MRINs" in the Report Options and have selected "Add MRN to
> Title" on the "Family Group Record for" menu. The record selection box at
> the bottom of the menu shows the name and the MRIN but the MRIN does not
> show in the preview.
>
> Can anyone duplicate this?
>
> Thanks,
> Kay
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Family Search Help

2012-03-08 Thread Larry Lee
Can anyone tell me if Family Search in now off limits to non-LDS.I
used to use it once upon a time.  have tried the new site & the old
site.

My email address, old username and password are still valid but I
can't seem to be able to use the search function.

I know things have changed & are changing but is it still possible to
use it at all for non-LDS?


Thanks,

Larry



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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Help

2012-03-08 Thread Larry Lee
Laird & Kathy,

I first tried from within Legacy Research Guidance. That was the new
site I think because it said it was only available to LDS.  I then
googled old Family Search and went to that website. It has been awhile
so I had to get my username then with that my old password worked and
my email address was still on file. I never did get to the search box
and it was late, I was tired, and gave it up.

Based on your replies I will try to follow and see if I have better
luck tonight.

Thanks for your advice.
Larry



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Laird  wrote:
> Larry,
> Are you doing this through Legacy or directly on the Family Search web using a
> Web Browser?
> There seems to be a problem with Legacy when the person you are searching
> doesn't have enough dates b. & d. to fill in the form on Family Search?
> Laird
>
> On 3/8/2012 7:22 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me if Family Search in now off limits to non-LDS.I
>> used to use it once upon a time.  have tried the new site&  the old
>> site.
>>
>> My email address, old username and password are still valid but I
>> can't seem to be able to use the search function.
>>
>> I know things have changed&  are changing but is it still possible to
>> use it at all for non-LDS?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Help

2012-03-08 Thread Larry Lee
Still no can do. From within Legacy I do get the Legacy screen but the
button to connect is grayed out.

This is part of what I got from trying to register:
You are just about finished. An e-mail to activate your account was
sent to this address:
ldlee...@gmail.com  Congratulations! Your account is now activated.
You can now use your new user name and password. This user name and
password can be used for some
current and all future FamilySearch applications.
At this point hitting the Continue button does nothing.

This is what I got from the New site:
Your account is not ready for new.familysearch.org. Still not usable.

Is there a Customer Service # where I can talk to a live person?
So far it is terrible!

Larry



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:
> Laird & Kathy,
>
> I first tried from within Legacy Research Guidance. That was the new
> site I think because it said it was only available to LDS.  I then
> googled old Family Search and went to that website. It has been awhile
> so I had to get my username then with that my old password worked and
> my email address was still on file. I never did get to the search box
> and it was late, I was tired, and gave it up.
>
> Based on your replies I will try to follow and see if I have better
> luck tonight.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Laird  wrote:
>> Larry,
>> Are you doing this through Legacy or directly on the Family Search web using 
>> a
>> Web Browser?
>> There seems to be a problem with Legacy when the person you are searching
>> doesn't have enough dates b. & d. to fill in the form on Family Search?
>> Laird
>>
>> On 3/8/2012 7:22 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
>>> Can anyone tell me if Family Search in now off limits to non-LDS.I
>>> used to use it once upon a time.  have tried the new site&  the old
>>> site.
>>>
>>> My email address, old username and password are still valid but I
>>> can't seem to be able to use the search function.
>>>
>>> I know things have changed&  are changing but is it still possible to
>>> use it at all for non-LDS?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Help

2012-03-08 Thread Larry Lee
That one only returns HTML code like this:

{"next":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&offset=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E","facets":[{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&category","displayName":"Collections","value":[{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&collection_type=6","displayName":"Birth,
Marriage, & 
Death","count":149632},{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&collection_type=0","displayName":"Census
& 
Lists","count":83909},{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&collection_type=4","displayName":"Migration
& 
Naturalization","count":2021},{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?


Larry



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:26 PM,   wrote:
> Larry, try  familysearch.org
>
> Sally
>
> In a message dated 3/8/2012 10:07:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> ldlee...@gmail.com writes:
> Still no can do. From within Legacy I do get the  Legacy screen but the
> button to connect is grayed out.
>
> This is part of  what I got from trying to register:
> You are just about finished. An e-mail to  activate your account was
> sent to this address:
> ldlee...@gmail.com   Congratulations! Your account is now activated.
> You can now use your new user  name and password. This user name and
> password can be used for  some
> current and all future FamilySearch applications.
> At this point  hitting the Continue button does nothing.
>
> This is what I got from the New  site:
>
> Your account is not ready for new.familysearch.org. Still not  usable.
>
> Is there a Customer Service # where I can talk to a live  person?
> So far it is terrible!
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Help

2012-03-08 Thread Larry Lee
I did that Jackie. Got this message  "Your account is not ready for
new.familysearch.org."

Really strange, nothing seems to work. I will call them tomorrow if I
can find a phone number. Haven't looked for one yet.


Larry



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Jackie King  wrote:
> Larry - try http://www.familysearch.org from your regular browser - and
> not inside of legacy.
>
>
> On 3/8/2012 9:31 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
>> That one only returns HTML code like this:
>>
>> {"next":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&offset=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E","facets":[{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&category","displayName":"Collections","value":[{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&collection_type=6","displayName":"Birth,
>> Marriage,&  
>> Death","count":149632},{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&collection_type=0","displayName":"Census
>> &  
>> Lists","count":83909},{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?count=10&query=%2Bsurname%3ALea%7E&collection_type=4","displayName":"Migration
>> &  
>> Naturalization","count":2021},{"token":"http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search?
>> 
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:26 PM,  wrote:
>>> Larry, try  familysearch.org
>>>
>>> Sally
>>>
>>> In a message dated 3/8/2012 10:07:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>> ldlee...@gmail.com writes:
>>> Still no can do. From within Legacy I do get the  Legacy screen but the
>>> button to connect is grayed out.
>>>
>>> This is part of  what I got from trying to register:
>>> You are just about finished. An e-mail to  activate your account was
>>> sent to this address:
>>> ldlee...@gmail.com   Congratulations! Your account is now activated.
>>> You can now use your new user  name and password. This user name and
>>> password can be used for  some
>>> current and all future FamilySearch applications.
>>> At this point  hitting the Continue button does nothing.
>>>
>>> This is what I got from the New  site:
>>>
>>> Your account is not ready for new.familysearch.org. Still not  usable.
>>>
>>> Is there a Customer Service # where I can talk to a live  person?
>>> So far it is terrible!
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Help

2012-03-08 Thread Larry Lee
Thanks to ALL of you - what a fantastic helpful group!  I will contact them
tomorrow when I am hopefully more alert.

Larry



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
wrote:

> I am non-LDS also. There were some changes last year, but basically about
> privacy issues and LDS issues. The screens changed but still work. On the
> day 1940 is legal, I expect it will overburden their computers just like
> 1930 and 1920 first day. I have heard they are better prepared this time. I
> wis them well.
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 3/8/12, Larry Lee * wrote:
>
>
> From: Larry Lee 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Search Help
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 5:22 PM
> ,
> Can anyone tell me if Family Search in now off limits to non-LDS.I
> used to use it once upon a time.  have tried the new site & the old
>
> site.
>
> My email address, old username and password are still valid but I
> can't seem to be able to use the search function.
>
> I know things have changed & are changing but is it still possible to
>
> use it at all for non-LDS?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] squished popup information boxes redux

2012-03-09 Thread Larry Lee
George,

I haven't noticed this issue, if anything mine are a little too large.

Do you have the main window maximized? If not that sometimes makes the
text tiny.

Larry



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> I just updated to the latest version and have noticed the same problem with
> the popup information boxes being squished that was an issue some time ago.
> I just don’t know when it’s safe or how long to wait to update. Anyone else
> seeing this problem?
> George
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't use main window with open dialog box

2012-03-10 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Ward,

I don't know the answer either. But this is my biggest pet peeve with
Legacy, it's so un-user-friendly and wastes time and cause input
errors. I just accepted it because I didn't know any better.  Have you
offered that as a suggestion? I think it would be a fantastic
improvement.

Larry



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> I've used Legacy happily for about 5 years, but always find one of its
> characteristics to be really inconvenient: Unlike many other applications I
> use, Legacy dialog boxes are modal; i.e., they temporarily halt the program,
> and the user cannot continue until the dialog has been closed. This means,
> for example, when a search list is created it can't be parked at the side of
> the screen and referred to while work is done in the parent window. And if
> filling in a modal dialog requires access to the parent window, you must
> close the dialog, find the information in the parent window, and then open
> the dialog again. Modal dialogs show information in a series (one lot of
> information at a time) and not in parallel (all the information you need to
> see at once). Parallel allow the user to choose what to look at, but in
> serial you are pretty much forcing him or her to pick an option.
>
> Obviously some kinds of dialogs must be modal, such as selecting a file to
> open or warnings such as confirming a deletion. My understanding is that
> modals are also easier to program, because the programmer doesn't have to be
> concerned whether making decisions in multiple screens could cause
> conflicts. But there are ways around this.
>
> I couldn't find references to this issue in the forum archives; does anyone
> know whether there's a good reason for using modal dialogs so often?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Clipboard Issue

2012-03-11 Thread Larry Lee
Ron,

In this case it copied nothing. I tried several times pasting into
notepad,  and Word. Both were blank. I think it may be a bug thus
wondering if anyone else with this version is having the issue. Don't
want to report it as a bug if it is working correctly for others.

Larry



On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Ron Ferguson
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> Larry,
>
> I think you are almost correct. It is copying the Event Data onto the
> Clipboard, but, if I am correct, not the Source.
>
> Brian, If this is the case then it is a really serious bug and, for me, is a
> show stopper.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lee
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:16 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Clipboard Issue
>
> Anybody else have this issue in Version: 7.5.0.166?
>
> When editing an Event,  clicking the Icon (bottom right) to copy to
> the clipboard does nothing.
>
> Larry  Lee
> There are no problems! Only challenges.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Clipboard Issue

2012-03-11 Thread Larry Lee
Maybe I am trying to use this incorrectly? If it is copied to the
clipboard it should be able to be pasted into another document like
Notepad etc., correct?

Larry



On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Gene Young  wrote:
> On 3/11/2012 8:16 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
>> Anybody else have this issue in Version: 7.5.0.166?
>>
>> When editing an Event, Â clicking the Icon (bottom right) to copy to
>> the clipboard does nothing.
>>
>
> Works for me.  V7.5.0.166, Win7 Home premium.
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Clipboard Issue

2012-03-11 Thread Larry Lee
Thanks for that Ron. Obviously a misunderstanding on my part.


Larry



On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> Larry,
>
> It copies to the Legacy Event Clipboard, not the Windows Clipboard, I would
> not, therefore, expect it to paste into another program. Indeed, as it
> should copy both the Event Data and the Source Data, I cannot see how it
> possibly can.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Larry Lee
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:59 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Clipboard Issue
>
> Ron,
>
> In this case it copied nothing. I tried several times pasting into
> notepad,  and Word. Both were blank. I think it may be a bug thus
> wondering if anyone else with this version is having the issue. Don't
> want to report it as a bug if it is working correctly for others.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Ron Ferguson
>  wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> I think you are almost correct. It is copying the Event Data onto the
>> Clipboard, but, if I am correct, not the Source.
>>
>> Brian, If this is the case then it is a really serious bug and, for me, is
>> a
>> show stopper.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Larry Lee
>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:16 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Clipboard Issue
>>
>> Anybody else have this issue in Version: 7.5.0.166?
>>
>> When editing an Event,  clicking the Icon (bottom right) to copy to
>> the clipboard does nothing.
>>
>> Larry  Lee
>> There are no problems! Only challenges.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing

2012-03-11 Thread Larry Lee
Hi Sherry,

FYI they are now called Family Chartmasters
https://familychartmasters.com/php/index.php
Larry



On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Sherry/Support 
wrote:
> Legacy doesn't print the charts up. They're printed by Generation Maps
> in Pleasant Grove, UT.
>
> You can contact them at i...@generationmaps.com or by calling
801-836-6748.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Tim Rosenlof  wrote:
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> It is a Legacy report ! I am certainly not going to send it to
Millennia. I know their office very well. They don't have the capibility to
print large color high quality charts.
>>
>> Tim Rosenlof
>>
>> On 3/11/2012 9:48 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> Tim,
>
>> How about Legacy?
>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
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