[LegacyUG] Sources

2012-07-30 Thread RUNION ROBERT
What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.  Should a 
scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a Multimedia 'file' under 
the event detail, or should the scanned document be added under the master 
source as a 'file'?

Bob


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[LegacyUG] Duplicate Problem

2012-04-07 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I received a GEDCOM file that I would like to add to my files (to a backup copy 
just as a safeguard).  In importing the GEDCOM of approximately 2000+ names, I 
have discovered duplication of about half of the persons imported.  Is there a 
recommended way to eliminate the duplications?  I tried the duplication process 
and it appears that I have to address each pair separately.  This creates a 
problem when looking at the names and data as to which one is the accurate one 
or even if it is a duplication.  Suggestions?


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[LegacyUG] New Person Entry Error

2012-01-14 Thread RUNION ROBERT

Need some help in how to handle an error. When I am attempting to 'Add A New 
Person' I'm encountering an error which reads: ' ...Error getting next deleted 
RIN. Error 3021: No current record.  Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN. Responses 
available YES, NO, QUIT…'. It seems to also affect entering a new marriage on 
occasion.

None of the responses seem to work very well.  Clicking on YES continues to TRY 
AGAIN  and again and again and again , so it not useable. NO sometimes allows 
me to enter a new person immediately and at other time it will permit me to 
enter a new person after a lengthy search.  Quit  closes out Legacy altogether.

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[LegacyUG] Burial Information

2011-12-23 Thread RUNION ROBERT
What is the proper way to enter a burial 'address' and 'notes' for a person 
where multiple persons have the same data? Should this data be added as an 
event also?

Bob

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[LegacyUG] Re: Webinar - Entering Census

2011-09-11 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I have attempted to edit the source detail in an event on census data for 1930 
and get the error  3163 at the point where I enter the Enumeration district and 
try to save - evidently the detail data data entered is to large to accept.  
The information I am trying to enter is not as large as the sample you show in 
the Webinar.  Can't figure what is causing this - any advice???


On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Robert Runion wrote:

> Geoff - I'm getting and error when I try to add the census 'Given', 
> 'Surname;, or other entries as depicted in the video. The error is '...3163: 
> The field is too small to accept the amount pf data you attempted to add…..'. 
> Can you advise what I am doing wrong?



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[LegacyUG] Source Writer

2011-07-17 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I want to pass on an issue for those who might be thinking of moving to another 
program.  I am attempting  to move my Legacy files to FTM for MAC via GEDCOM 
and discovered an item folks might want to consider.  In using the 'Source 
Writer' in lieu of the 'Basic', to enter my sources, I have discovered that the 
move to FTMM considers all Source Writer entries to be errors.  Basic seemed to 
transfer OK.  I do so wish that Legacy would come up with a MAC version - I 
tire of using the Virtual Machine to Parallels or Fusion to run Legacy.  I love 
Legacy, but ..

Bob

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[LegacyUG] Legacy Startup Problem

2010-12-02 Thread RUNION ROBERT
For the past 3-4 days, every time I start Legacy, I get a 'Do you want to 
install this program from an  unknown source'. That program is 'Legacy.exe'.  
If I answer 'yes', Legacy installs and the package works. But the next time I 
start, the same issue crops up.  I have downloaded 7.4 several times, and 
installed 'Legacy7setup.exe', but this 'Legacy.exe' question continues to 
plague me.  Any ideas of what is causing this?

Bob

Using Legacy 7.4.0.45, on Windows 7


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[LegacyUG] Event Correction

2010-11-14 Thread RUNION ROBERT
If an event affects a number of people - say 50 - and if several corrections to 
the event becomes necessary, is there a way to mass change this event that 
affects all 50 people?  Or must one go to each affected individual and make the 
changes?


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[LegacyUG] Digitized Files

2010-11-08 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I have a problem and need some help that I am unable to find in the Legacy 
textbook or in the help files.  I have scanned a lot of research files'/source 
documents into my PC - about 700 of them - and would like to add these files 
tas a part of the Master Source.  If I can do that, then when adding the Master 
Source to a specific group of persons, the digitized file can be seen if one 
wants review the document.  My concern is that in adding the digitized file to 
a Master Source, how do you add it  - as a 'Picture' or 'Repository' (not sure 
about this part) or other?  Also, when setting up the 'Location' for these 
files, how do you arrange this?   I've been working around this for two weeks 
and still can't figure it out. I thought I had it figured out, but when I 
returned the file to my home PC, the work I had done was lost or at least I was 
unable to see the added digitized files.

I know this request is vague, so perhaps someone who is adding his/her 
digitized files to a source could give me a step-by-step procedure of how you 
do this, or point me to a legacy site that discusses it.

Bob




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[LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA

2010-10-30 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I'm looking for some advice on adding a piece of data to an event that affects 
multiple persons.  Is there any way to add a piece of data (i.e., a correction 
if you will)  to an event that is already attached to say 100 persons, without 
having to visit each RIN/MRIN to add/correct the event? Also, is there a way to 
assure oneself that all those 100 affected by the change has been entered?  I 
have found that I have need to correct a lot of individual events and am 
seeking some advice that would permit a mass change - if one is available. The 
method I'm using is so long, it would bore the reader, and I'm not sure how 
long the explanation would be - but I hope someone might have encountered this 
issue has a simpler solution.

Bob




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Re: Email problems (was: RE: [LegacyUG] Facebook & Images)

2010-03-10 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Understood Sherry - but if I couldn't transmit I was trying to rule it out and 
I had no intention of 'highjacking' anyones message.  Geez Louise, you people 
are something else... Mea Culpa for trying to resolve an issue I was 
having. So much for assistance... now as customer service, do your duty and cut 
me off. I've been thinking of switching to a MAC program anyway and you may 
have aided me in that venture.




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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook & Images
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> I keep getting this message when I try to send to this group stating  that 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook & Images

2010-03-10 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Brian - first, I was 'replying' to a message to see if I was able to even get 
to the group and do so; secondly, the message I got back was  addressed to this 
same group,  so I think my question was legitimate and not as dumb as you imply.

Bob

On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:

> I'm curious about why you would send this message to the group if you thought 
> you could not send messages. And then I'm equally curious as to why you would 
> post the message as a reply about "FaceBook" instead of just starting your 
> own thread.
>
> At any rate, you obviously are allowed to post. So perhaps your error message 
> was generated locally. Lack of user permissions on the computer?
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook & Images

2010-03-10 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I keep getting this message when I try to send to this group stating  that 
'...Sorry, you do not have permission to post to the 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com mailing list...'.  Am I using the wrong address 
or have I been black-balled? If the latter, please advise what my infraction 
was!

Bob

On Mar 10, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> Tom Thorpe wrote
>> Wondering what others think of using Facebook photos and information
>> (e.g. birthdate, other family member names and FB links) that are
>> accessible to everyone in my genealogical software (Legacy). I have
>> several extended family members and their children who are on FB and
>> have posted photos for all to see, friends and non-friends alike.
>>
>> I do not intend to publish the material but had hoped to include it all
>> in a book of descendants to be handed out at the next family reunion.
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> If they are family members and are on FB, as presumably you are too,
> surely you can ask them if they have any objections to you using this
> material/information in the way you describe.  It would seem the
> courteous thing to do.
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> I have e-mailed many people with public websites from which I have
> garnered information and they have all replied along the lines of "feel
> free, that's what it's there for" but most have added that it was nice
> to be asked.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location Pictures

2010-03-09 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Leon - I have the picture added to the source, but when I add the source to 
multiple people (i.e., all those buried in cemetery A), the source shows at the 
end of the book but  repeats with the photo for each entry of the same source.  
Do you know of a way to restrict the picture to the first entry?  I think this 
may be in the same concern I have that a source repeats, but does not use the 
'ibid' feature.  I suspect  Ron's suggestion may be my 'out'. Thanks for the 
reply.

Bob

On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:10 AM, Leon Chapman wrote:

> Fundamentally, It is the way Legacy is designed.
> A burial picture will not print on reports.
> An event picture will print on reports.
>
> To solve your repeating event picture printing, I would suggest you attach 
> the picture to the source of an event.  That way the picture will print in 
> the source section only and will print one time.  The same source can be 
> sited for an event for multiple people.
>
> If you attach the same picture to multiple peoples events, then you will get 
> the same picture printed multiple times.
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> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:54 AM, RUNION ROBERT  wrote:
> I need some guidance or clarification on a couple of minor items.  When 
> preparing a book descendant narrative and entering an event (such as the 
> burial cemetery or a ‘file’) and I add a picture of the church associated 
> with the cemetery, or a ‘file’ –  this picture repeats in the book for all 
> those for whom I have added the event picture?  Is there any way to add such 
> a photo to each individual but have the picture appear only once in the book? 
> Also, where does an event ‘file’ appear when you write a book narrative?
>
> I have experimented with most functions, but I have found that the only way I 
> can get a picture of a cemetery or other location added is to add it to the 
> individual, but that replicates the picture for all who have the same picture 
> added to the event.  If adding a ‘file’, a burial picture, or a location 
> picture, the picture does not appear in the book.  For my purposes, a picture 
> associated with the Location which would show only once when I print the 
> location in the resultant book would work for me. That way, the burial or 
> other event would only appear once within the location portion of the book.
>
> Is any of this possible or am I misinterpreting how the picture function 
> works? I can leave the location picture out of my book, but am curious as to 
> why a ‘burial picture’ is available to add to the individual data, but does 
> not show when a book is prepared, or why the Location does not permit adding 
> the site photo.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location Pictures

2010-03-09 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Thanks for the response Ron - I sort of suspected that your suggestion was my 
'out', but wanted to see if there might have been a 'workaround'.  I agree, 
that it is doing exactly what I told it to do.

What do the other three functions do that appear on the line where a picture is 
added to an event or under the burial pictures feature?

Bob

On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>> I need some guidance or clarification on a couple of minor items.
>> When preparing a book descendant narrative and entering an event
>> (such as the burial cemetery or a ‘file’) and I add a picture of the
>> church associated with the cemetery, or a ‘file’ –  this picture
>> repeats in the book for all those for whom I have added the event
>> picture?  Is there any way to add such a photo to each individual but
>> have the picture appear only once in the book? Also, where does an
>> event ‘file’ appear when you write a book narrative?
>>
>> I have experimented with most functions, but I have found that the
>> only way I can get a picture of a cemetery or other location added is
>> to add it to the individual, but that replicates the picture for all
>> who have the same picture added to the event.  If adding a ‘file’, a
>> burial picture, or a location picture, the picture does not appear in
>> the book.  For my purposes, a picture associated with the Location
>> which would show only once when I print the location in the resultant
>> book would work for me. That way, the burial or other event would
>> only appear once within the location portion of the book.
>>
>> Is any of this possible or am I misinterpreting how the picture
>> function works? I can leave the location picture out of my book, but
>> am curious as to why a ‘burial picture’ is available to add to the
>> individual data, but does not show when a book is prepared, or why
>> the Location does not permit adding the site photo.
>>
>
> Robert,
>
> Firstly I will confirm your observations. These are not bugs but simply the
> way the program works. If an Event is linked to several individuals, and
> pictures are linked to the Event, then the pictures will appear for each
> individual. When you think about it, that is actually what you have told the
> program to do.
>
> I would suggest that you take a look at the Publishing Center and consider
> adding Picture Scrapbooks, on separate pages, at appropriate sections of
> your book. This will enable one to select pictures relevant to specific
> individuals. It may not be the perfect option for you, but maybe the best
> available.
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[LegacyUG] Location Pictures

2010-03-09 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I need some guidance or clarification on a couple of minor items.  When 
preparing a book descendant narrative and entering an event (such as the burial 
cemetery or a ‘file’) and I add a picture of the church associated with the 
cemetery, or a ‘file’ –  this picture repeats in the book for all those for 
whom I have added the event picture?  Is there any way to add such a photo to 
each individual but have the picture appear only once in the book? Also, where 
does an event ‘file’ appear when you write a book narrative?

I have experimented with most functions, but I have found that the only way I 
can get a picture of a cemetery or other location added is to add it to the 
individual, but that replicates the picture for all who have the same picture 
added to the event.  If adding a ‘file’, a burial picture, or a location 
picture, the picture does not appear in the book.  For my purposes, a picture 
associated with the Location which would show only once when I print the 
location in the resultant book would work for me. That way, the burial or other 
event would only appear once within the location portion of the book.

Is any of this possible or am I misinterpreting how the picture function works? 
I can leave the location picture out of my book, but am curious as to why a 
‘burial picture’ is available to add to the individual data, but does not show 
when a book is prepared, or why the Location does not permit adding the site 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing the Henry Numbers

2010-02-15 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Bill - Would you share the coding you use to assign  a 'user defined number' 
(in detail please)?

Bob

On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Bill Wood wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Ltools is a useful little program that gives you a degree of
> automation and simplicity in assigning user defined numbers to people
> in a Legacy File.
>
> I have used it and saved myself a lot of time with AHnentafel numbers
> and it also has automatic processes for Henry numbers.
>
> Ltools is here zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:21 AM, William Dukstein  wrote:
>> I just received a Legacy database from a distant cousin.  In order to more
>> easily compare my database and this new one, I would like to re-designate
>> all of the Henry numbers in this new file.  In my file I am listed as #1.
>> In the new file, I am listed as #12345.  How can I change my designated
>> number  to #1 in the new file and have Legacy re-designate all of the other
>> individuals according to the numbering system.  This way I would be able to
>> cross check individual #40 in both files to see if the information agrees.
>> Make sense?  Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Bill
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Re: [LegacyUG] Initial Test (Legacy Users Group)

2010-02-04 Thread RUNION ROBERT
and yes

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> Yes
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on a Mac

2010-01-24 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Yes, you would have to factor in the Windows software and also the VMware to 
run the Legacy program.  I went to a MAC because I just got sick and tired of 
all the 'tweaking' and the problems with a PC. My MAC has been solid and none 
fo the seemingly endless PC issues.

Anyway, if you go that route, give me a jingle

BOb


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> Hello Bob,
>
> Thanks for your offer to discuss this. It sounds like I will be going the 
> more expensive route if I buy a Mac and then have to also purchase a copy of 
> Windows to run it... plus learn how to do what it takes to set it up.
>
> Anne
> ----- Original Message -
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> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on a Mac
>
> Anne - I have this setup running on a 24" iMAC desktop, under Windows XP and 
> Windows 7.  E-mail me at rrun...@cox.net if you need more info.  It works 
> just like a PC once it is setup.
>
> Bob
>
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>> I'm sure I can learn, but what I want to know is, is it worth switching?
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>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on a Mac

2010-01-24 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Anne - I have this setup running on a 24" iMAC desktop, under Windows XP and 
Windows 7.  E-mail me at rrun...@cox.net if you need more info.  It works just 
like a PC once it is setup.

Bob


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> database daily and don't want to regret my decision to switch. I see that
> Legacy says,  (Legacy runs on newer Macs with Windows installed under
> Bootcamp, Parallel or Fusion ) none of which I understand at this point.
> I'm sure I can learn, but what I want to know is, is it worth switching?
> Does it create problems to install Windows on a Mac.. I presume that is an
> added cost? etc. Any general thoughts on this most appreciated.
>
> Anne
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Re: [LegacyUG] No Period After An Initial

2010-01-16 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I had a similar problem and I believe I had to visit each of the items.

BTW - I use Legacy 7.0.0.109 - is that the most current one or is there a 7.4?  
I am unfamiliar with 7.4 mentioned in your mail, but if there is a new verison, 
please tell me where to obtain same.  The Legacy internet site still shows 
7.0.0.109 as the most current.

Bob


On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Ron Goodwin wrote:

> Following suggestions prior to upgrading to Legacy 7.4, I ran the Potential 
> Problem report and found that I have over 100 individuals where I have failed 
> to add a period after their initial.
>
> Is there any way to make the corrections without having to make the changes 
> one by one?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Genalogy reports - SourceWriter

2010-01-15 Thread RUNION ROBERT
'...over-eggs the pudding...'.  I never heard that expression but I like it!!


Bob


On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On the whole I am a great fan of SourceWriter, but there are times when
> I feel it rather over-eggs the pudding!  Such as when it offers 4
> templates for recording genealogy reports:  Family Group Sheet, GEDCOM
> file, Pedigree Chart and Research Report.
>
> Largely because I've forgotten what I've used before, I've ended up
> using all 4 at random for all sorts of Reports - handwritten trees,
> Register Reports, FGS ...
>
> I'm not really sure why it's necessary to distinguish between them,
> anyway.  The main elements of the Citation for FGS, Gedcom and Pedigree
> Chart are all the same:  compiler, report title, supplied date &
> supplier, with just the option of adding some specifics in the case of
> the Gedcom.  With all 3 it is not possible to suppress Master Source
> Comments in Reports, which is *annoying*.  All three included "supplied
> by" or supplied [date] by" and then pick up on the compiler's or
> author's surname which is sometimes misleading and sometimes just wrong.
> (I have a Tree compiled by a deceased relative which was given to me by
> his son who does have the same surname, it might well have come from
> another member of the family with a different surname.)
>
> The Pedigree Chart citation is slightly misleading because it reads, for
> example, "Ralph Hare, "Rev Edward Hare Tree," supplied 2005 by Hare,
> [ADRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] Wrexham, Wales" which may be a correct form of
> Citation (I don't know) but implies that the person who supplied the
> Chart is from Wrexham, Wales whereas it is me, the current owner, who is
> from there.
>
> As usual with Legacy, I suppose it boils down to "you pays your money
> (or not if you're using the standard edition!) and you takes your
> choice."  I have decided that the FGS output suits my needs and I shall
> use that for all manner of Reports.
>
> I'd be interested to hear the musings of other LUGgers on this subject,
> though.
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions

2010-01-07 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Well put Janis.  I think I have a pretty tough skin after being in the military 
for 30 years, so I slough off those who want to be mean spirited.  As you 
indicate, there are a lot of folks who have helped without the rancor of the 
'2%' factor. Such responses aren't restricted to this forum by a long shot, but 
it all boils down to just good manners and a tolerance for our human foibles - 
which seems to be in short supply these days. I have been more of a 'lurker' 
than a participant and have learned a lot from the questions posed and answered 
- so I will continue to learn from this site.

Bob

On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote:

> Angelique and Linda,
>
> I have been on the list for - well, lo these many years , with varying
> degrees of participation.
>
> While there is occasionally a small flurry of harsh words, by and large this
> list is populated with members who consistently help others, whatever the
> level of Legacy competence or incompetence, to solve their daily
> peccadilloes with the program. Ron and Wendy leap to mind, although there
> are many others.
>
> I would suggest that you jump in and ask your questions with a bit of a
> thicker skin, remembering that any criticism that you receive is from one or
> two random people, and does not represent the list at large. Whatever your
> question is, there are probably a number of "lurkers" who share it.
>
> I am not one of those generous individuals who answers questions tirelessly,
> but I have been grateful for them many times, when they patiently answered
> questions of my own. Attempting to "instruct" on list behavior is
> disrespectful of those individuals, and will never change the two or three
> difficult folks.
>
> Welcome to the list - and may your research prosper!
>
> Janis Walker Gilmore
>
>
> On 1/6/10 7:35 PM, "Linda Johnson"  wrote:
>
>> Amen Angelique!  I am new to this board.  I have used Legacy for about two
>> years.  If I were to have questions, I would  hesitate to ask them due to
>> the tone of some of the group members.
>>
>> Linda
>> Raleigh, NC
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Marvin & Angelique Welch" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:05 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Suggestions
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I recently joined because I love Legacy and have used it for a few years
>> now, but still have a lot to learn. However, my purpose for posting
>> today is to share some things about the group that make me feel
>> uncomfortable as a newbie, and then offer some suggestions to help our
>> group function more smoothly.
>>
>> My first concern is regarding the tone of some of the responses, whether
>> they are from group members or Legacy support, there have been posts
>> that come off rude from the perspective of someone just joining. My
>> suggestion is for everyone to /please/ try to speak to each other as if
>> we are in the same room. In other words, be nice and respect each other,
>> pretty please with hot chocolate, marshmallows and whipped cream on top.
>>
>> Second concern is regarding the hundreds of posts I have read regarding
>> errors when people try to verify their subscriptions. This seems to be
>> due to an error in a hyperlink if I understand correctly? The link
>> provided has a space between two characters right? It really does seem
>> to me that it is the responsibility of Legacy support to fix the error
>> in the hyperlink. Wouldn't that save thousands of responses instructing
>> the individual to remove the space themselves?
>>
>> This leads to my third concern, while there are posts about people
>> having issues verifying their subscription, at the same time you have
>> individuals just joining who wish to change their group status to digest
>> mode because of inbox fill-up. My suggestion is similar to what others
>> have already offered, such as adding some type of attributes to the font
>> (bold, underline, etc.) on the website indicating there is no digest or
>> moving the text somewhere it is more likely to be seen. I opt for moving
>> it to somewhere it is more likely to be seen before someone clicks to join.
>>
>> I feel that since the group was most likely created without the digest
>> format and does indicate there is no digest, it is not the
>> responsibility of Legacy support to incorporate this format. But I do
>> feel it is their responsibility (unless they want to keep responding to
>> questions about digests) to make it more clear that there isn't one
>> before people even join.
>>
>> On the page, it looks like the best place in the source code to put it
>> where people can see it is here:
>>
>>Sign up for [...] list with news about Legacy events and
>> meetings in Utah.   <-After this paragraph and before the
>> centered form
>>
>> Please Note: No digest version of this list is
>> available. <--- It would help if this were centered, in a larger font,
>> bold, or whatever else may help
>>
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> Angelique Welch
>>
>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures

2010-01-05 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I understand that you are discussing  Family Group Reports (FGR), but I was 
alluding to my penchant for 'Report --> Book --> Descendant-Narrative' where 
the 'events' are either positioned as footnotes with the individual, which 
would be similar to the FGR,  or positioned at the end of the book if using 
endnotes.  As I indicated, it was just an observation - and a personal choice, 
being neither  'wrong' nor critical as has been implied.

I thought this forum was for discussing ways of using Legacy and asking 
questions -  am  wrong on this?

Bob

On Jan 5, 2010, at 7:39 AM, Mary Fowler Leek wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I may be misunderstanding your comment below regarding the data being removed 
> from the individual but if the Notes event is attached to the individual, it 
> prints with the individual. If it is attached to the marriage, it reads in 
> the marriage information. It is the same as placing the information in the 
> General or Marriage Notes, you just have more control over where it shows up 
> in the narrative plus you can attach a photo as well as separately source 
> information to each Notes event.
>
> A personally created event is used just like the included Named events would 
> be with an individual or a marriage to attach/ include information for the 
> family group.
>
> Mary
>
> - Original Message -
> From: RUNION ROBERT
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures
>
> I experimented with Mary's suggestion and with an event 'Notes', you can move 
> the data to any spot in the End notes. However, it sort of loses appeal to me 
> when the data is not with the individual in a book narrative.  If you have a 
> 500 page book, the individual note (now an event) is listed on page 385 
> (example only) and seems to remove the 'history' from the immediate 
> individual.  Guess it is all in one's preference, but it is an interesting 
> concept. - especially the photo addition possibility.
>
> Bob
>
> On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much, really looks neat.
>> Syble
>>
>> --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Mary Fowler Leek  wrote:
>>
>> From: Mary Fowler Leek 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:34 PM
>>
>> Cathy,
>>
>> In order to organize your report with the notes at the beginning, just
>> create a new 'event' titled Notes and copy and paste your hard coded notes
>> into the event titled Notes. After that is done and you're sure you have the
>> notes section all copied, then delete the identical information from the
>> section of hard coded notes. This way, you can shift this new event all
>> around among the events so it will read and print as and where you'd like it
>> to within the report. With an event, you can also add in (attach) a photo.
>> While the photos usually are quite small (maybe someday we'll be allowed to
>> size them as we'd like) at least they add some interest to the events.
>>
>> If you'd like to see a report that I can produce using an event titled
>> notes, as well as some of the original named events, rather than using the
>> hard coded Notes, I'll create a short one in a pdf file, attach to an email
>> and send to you so you can see how I've used an event titled 'notes' to
>> write up some of my family history. This report can now be created in a
>> second or two and I can shift and edit to my hearts content, should I come
>> across more information or photo's I'd like to add to this family's history.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Cathy Vallevieni" 
>>
>>
>>
>> William & Charles:
>>
>> Thank you for your response to my posting.
>>
>> I have Adobe Acrobat Professional but it will not change the Legacy
>> PDF into OCR because the file contains the pictures I want to
>> retain.  It will only change an all text file into OCR.
>>
>> I have Microsoft Word but .rtf loses the event pictures and .txt
>> loses all pictures + formatting.
>>
>> The reasoning for moving the Notes to the top is I've used that
>> section to write a Family Biography (a story-type summary of the full
>> history of the husband and wife and their life together with family
>> stories and remembrances and descriptions of the personalities of the
>> people--k

Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures

2010-01-05 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Geez Louise - I wasn't being critical


On Jan 5, 2010, at 5:00 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Bob,
>
> What exactly do you mean by "book narrative"? This thread was about
> Family Group Reports. But for your information with the Descendant
> Narrative Report my Events and Event Notes, came immediately after the
> individual's data.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
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> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
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> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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>
>  Original Message 
> From: RUNION ROBERT
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: 05 January 2010 09:41
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and
> Pictures
>
>> I experimented with Mary's suggestion and with an event 'Notes', you
>> can move the data to any spot in the End notes. However, it sort of
>> loses appeal to me when the data is not with the individual in a book
>> narrative.  If you have a 500 page book, the individual note (now an
>> event) is listed on page 385 (example only) and seems to remove the
>> 'history' from the immediate individual.  Guess it is all in one's
>> preference, but it is an interesting concept. - especially the photo
>> addition possibility.
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks so much, really looks neat.
>> Syble
>>
>> --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Mary Fowler Leek  wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Mary Fowler Leek 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and
>> Pictures To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:34 PM
>>
>>
>> Cathy,
>>
>> In order to organize your report with the notes at the beginning, just
>> create a new 'event' titled Notes and copy and paste your hard coded
>> notes into the event titled Notes. After that is done and you're sure
>> you have the notes section all copied, then delete the identical
>> information from the section of hard coded notes. This way, you can
>> shift this new event all around among the events so it will read and
>> print as and where you'd like it to within the report. With an event,
>> you can also add in (attach) a photo. While the photos usually are
>> quite small (maybe someday we'll be allowed to size them as we'd
>> like) at least they add some interest to the events.
>>
>> If you'd like to see a report that I can produce using an event titled
>> notes, as well as some of the original named events, rather than
>> using the hard coded Notes, I'll create a short one in a pdf file,
>> attach to an email and send to you so you can see how I've used an
>> event titled 'notes' to write up some of my family history. This
>> report can now be created in a second or two and I can shift and edit
>> to my hearts content, should I come across more information or
>> photo's I'd like to add to this family's history.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Cathy Vallevieni" 
>>
>>
>>
>> William & Charles:
>>
>> Thank you for your response to my posting.
>>
>> I have Adobe Acrobat Professional but it will not change the Legacy
>> PDF into OCR because the file contains the pictures I want to
>> retain.  It will only change an all text file into OCR.
>>
>> I have Microsoft Word but .rtf loses the event pictures and .txt
>> loses all pictures + formatting.
>>
>> The reasoning for moving the Notes to the top is I've used that
>> section to write a Family Biography (a story-type summary of the full
>> history of the husband and wife and their life together with family
>> stories and remembrances and descriptions of the personalities of the
>> people--kinda like you would seen in a biography book).  I'd like the
>> flow to be the overall summary of the people followed by the "facts
>> and events" for the husband followed by the "facts and events" for
>> the wife followed by the "facts and events" for the marriage.  A
>> reader can just read the overall summary or can get into more detail
>> by reading the facts with the detail of the Census', occupation (some
>> with pictures li

Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures

2010-01-05 Thread RUNION ROBERT
I experimented with Mary's suggestion and with an event 'Notes', you can move 
the data to any spot in the End notes. However, it sort of loses appeal to me 
when the data is not with the individual in a book narrative.  If you have a 
500 page book, the individual note (now an event) is listed on page 385 
(example only) and seems to remove the 'history' from the immediate individual. 
 Guess it is all in one's preference, but it is an interesting concept. - 
especially the photo addition possibility.

Bob

On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:

> Thanks so much, really looks neat.
> Syble
>
> --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Mary Fowler Leek  wrote:
>
> From: Mary Fowler Leek 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:34 PM
>
> Cathy,
>
> In order to organize your report with the notes at the beginning, just
> create a new 'event' titled Notes and copy and paste your hard coded notes
> into the event titled Notes. After that is done and you're sure you have the
> notes section all copied, then delete the identical information from the
> section of hard coded notes. This way, you can shift this new event all
> around among the events so it will read and print as and where you'd like it
> to within the report. With an event, you can also add in (attach) a photo.
> While the photos usually are quite small (maybe someday we'll be allowed to
> size them as we'd like) at least they add some interest to the events.
>
> If you'd like to see a report that I can produce using an event titled
> notes, as well as some of the original named events, rather than using the
> hard coded Notes, I'll create a short one in a pdf file, attach to an email
> and send to you so you can see how I've used an event titled 'notes' to
> write up some of my family history. This report can now be created in a
> second or two and I can shift and edit to my hearts content, should I come
> across more information or photo's I'd like to add to this family's history.
>
> Mary
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cathy Vallevieni" 
>
>
>
> William & Charles:
>
> Thank you for your response to my posting.
>
> I have Adobe Acrobat Professional but it will not change the Legacy
> PDF into OCR because the file contains the pictures I want to
> retain.  It will only change an all text file into OCR.
>
> I have Microsoft Word but .rtf loses the event pictures and .txt
> loses all pictures + formatting.
>
> The reasoning for moving the Notes to the top is I've used that
> section to write a Family Biography (a story-type summary of the full
> history of the husband and wife and their life together with family
> stories and remembrances and descriptions of the personalities of the
> people--kinda like you would seen in a biography book).  I'd like the
> flow to be the overall summary of the people followed by the "facts
> and events" for the husband followed by the "facts and events" for
> the wife followed by the "facts and events" for the marriage.  A
> reader can just read the overall summary or can get into more detail
> by reading the facts with the detail of the Census', occupation (some
> with pictures like the store they owned or an ad they ran),
> residences with pictures of the house they lived in, etc.
>
> I'm guessing what I want to do can't be done but thought I'd ask.
>
> I'm preparing for a family reunion and have books with sections for
> each marriage/family and would like the sections to begin with this
> report followed by the photos and all documents for the couple.
>
> Cathy Vallevieni
> Orange County, CA
>
> At 03:12 AM 1/3/2010, you wrote:
> >Cathy:
> >
> >I was going to mention PDF, but you said you can't change it to
> >OCR.  Adobe Acrobat (not the PDF Reader) has OCR capabilities within
> >the program, but usually only for images that contain text.  Sending
> >a Legacy report to PDF should be all text anyway so no OCR needed
> >for that and should retain all fonts.  I don't know about PDF
> >knockoff programs.  I know Acrobat is a bit pricey though.
> >
> >The only other alternative is to use a word processor.  If you don't
> >have one, you can always download OpenOffice.org which is free and a
> >full suite of office programs.  Then to retain any special fonts and
> >formatting, you can export it to PDF.
> >
> >I've found one of the best programs to have for genealogy is the
> >full version of Acrobat because you can scan everything into PDFs
> >and attach them to sources in Legacy.
> >
> >I don't really understand the reasoning for moving the notes section
> >to the top.  You mention it contains graphics.  Are these source
> >graphics?  Are the notes Footnotes/Endnotes?  Are you trying to make
> >the report accessible by others so they can make their own changes?
> >
> >Bill Boswell
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Cathy Vallevieni [mailto:cathyv...@cox.net]
> >Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy won't open in Windows 7

2010-01-04 Thread RUNION ROBERT
My Legacy is running just fine on Windows 7.  This windows 7 is running on 
VMWare Fusion on my iMAC.  I have not had any problems and I did install it on 
c:\Legacy.

Bob

On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Tom Weiss wrote:

> I also have been running Legacy on Windows 7 since early November with no 
> problems.
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:10 PM, John Clare  
> wrote:
> I have been running on 7 for over a month and haven't encountered a problem 
> yet, which of course doesn't mean there aren't any'
> John
>
> 2010/1/4 Sherry/Support 
>
> The staffers (a programmer and a support person) who have Windows 7 computers 
> have reported no problems running Legacy in Windows 7.
>
> Legacy must be installed to the default c:\Legacy folder.
>
> A couple of users have reported that they had to go to UAC Settings and set 
> to "never notify" but from what I've heard, most users have no problems with 
> Windows 7.
>
> Thanks for using Legacy.
>
> Sherry
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> Millennia Corporation
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> -Original Message-
> From: malka...@orthohelp.com [mailto:malka...@orthohelp.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:11 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy won't open in Windows 7
>
> Good to read this thread.  My new laptop is coming on "Jan 20" with W 7 64
> bit.  In anticipation I emailed Legacy support to ask if Legacy runs in W 7
> and they said it does with no problem:
>
> "As far as installing on Windows 7 there should not be any problems. and if
> you need help on backing up and restoring your family file on a new computer
> you should open Legacy and click on the word help at the top and then choose
> show help index. There you need to enter in the word backup and then hit
> enter. There you can read about backing up and restoring family files."
>
> Someone ought to tell them there are some problems with Legacy in W 7
> ...
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source and Book Narrative

2009-12-19 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Disregard - I figured it out for myself.

Bob

On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:42 PM, SgtBob wrote:

> Hope this isn't a repeat - I noticed I used an erroneous address in my last 
> attempt. If a repeat, I apologize.
>
> Could someone advise what I have done to my sources when I print a book 
> report?
> I use an MRIN numbering system for my entries both Master and Detail, but 
> when I
> print a report, all I see as footnotes is the number - the title of the MASTER
> source does not print.  I used to be able to see this in my reports, so what
> have I done to lose the Title of the Source in my footnotes?  I'm sure its
> something I have not checked in the set-up, but I have experimented for a 
> couple
> of days and still am unable to see the data in the footnotes.
>
> Bob
>
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