Re: [LegacyUG] illegitimate children of no spouse?

[Robert Runion]

Thanks Jenny.  I haven't added this type data lately, but in adding children of 
a two person relationship, the surname of the Father seems to be added 
automatically, so what surname would be entered by Legacy if no Father were 
entered?

On May 7, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Robert Runion  wrote:

> So - what surname would be attached to the child if the Father is unknown?  
> The surname of the Mother? Her biological Father's name or any one of the 
> surnames she may have acquired in multiple relationships?
>
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Ron Taylor  wrote:
>
>>
>> All children have a father and a mother.  The record in Legacy which 
>> connects the father and mother is called a marriage even if the arrangement 
>> is a one-night-stand.  Children are linked to the marriage record.  An 
>> unknown parent can be entered as "Unknown" or just left blank.  Enter as 
>> many "marriage" records as necessary to link children to their biological 
>> parents.
>>
>> One of the more interesting situations that is difficult to record in Legacy 
>> is a child that has been adopted by a single mother.  The mother never had a 
>> spouse.  Adopted children should be linked to their biological parents as 
>> well as their adopted parents.  Hope that helps.
>> Ron Taylor
>>
>> --- On Mon, 5/6/13, Roland Rhoades  wrote:
>>
>> From: Roland Rhoades 
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] illegitimate children of no spouse?
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Monday, May 6, 2013, 9:22 PM
>>
>> I have a woman in my tree who married, then divorced. She then had a couple 
>> children with no known spouse who were born with her maiden name.
>>
>> How do I enter no spouse, but enter her children NOT under her first husband?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Roland Rhoades
>>
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>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] illegitimate children of no spouse?

[Robert Runion]

So - what surname would be attached to the child if the Father is unknown?  The 
surname of the Mother? Her biological Father's name or any one of the surnames 
she may have acquired in multiple relationships?


On May 6, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Ron Taylor  wrote:

>
> All children have a father and a mother.  The record in Legacy which connects 
> the father and mother is called a marriage even if the arrangement is a 
> one-night-stand.  Children are linked to the marriage record.  An unknown 
> parent can be entered as "Unknown" or just left blank.  Enter as many 
> "marriage" records as necessary to link children to their biological parents.
>
> One of the more interesting situations that is difficult to record in Legacy 
> is a child that has been adopted by a single mother.  The mother never had a 
> spouse.  Adopted children should be linked to their biological parents as 
> well as their adopted parents.  Hope that helps.
> Ron Taylor
>
> --- On Mon, 5/6/13, Roland Rhoades  wrote:
>
> From: Roland Rhoades 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] illegitimate children of no spouse?
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Monday, May 6, 2013, 9:22 PM
>
> I have a woman in my tree who married, then divorced. She then had a couple 
> children with no known spouse who were born with her maiden name.
>
> How do I enter no spouse, but enter her children NOT under her first husband?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Roland Rhoades
>
> Maine Families Genealogist
>
> www.RolandRhoades.com
>
> see...@maine.rr.com
>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave

[Robert Runion]

Thanks for the input.

How does one add children to a family that you are the manager of (poor 
grammar, bit…)? I do not seem to be able to figure that out. Would you have 
open the child entry and then add the grave number of the parents or does one 
have to add the parents and then work backward?

Also, In reading the instructions for the Excel add sheet, that you have to add 
at least 25 persons from a single cemetery.  Is taht so?

Bob


On Apr 6, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Donna Colyer-Bethel  wrote:

> Bob
>
> I have over 14,000 graves indexed from one county, many with 
> photos..I had the same problem.
>
> 1.  You have to be certain you check all of yours against FAG existing 
> memorials...that was the first problem that threw me out of wack.
>
> 2.  They do have a specific formatfor example dates must be in 
> separate fields and in a specific orderah if only I had thought 
> of that when I created an Access database.which can be put into 
> Excel...but darn dumb me, thought putting the dates in HOW THEY ARE 
> FOUND ON THE STONE seemed to be the right way to go.
>
> Needless to say, I am not geeky enough to know how to do global type changes 
> like this without doing it the cut and retype way..
>
> Needless to say, my database is nice and safe in 2 computers and on cd, but 
> it has not made it to FAG yet. Although I have entered several memorials and 
> made a pitifully small attempt at checking duplicatestook me 
> three years to get it all typed into AccessTake me another 3 or 
> more to make it acceptable I guess.
> On 4/6/2013 4:15 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>>
>> Good points from all who responded.
>>
>> Part of the problem seems to be that there are no rules or if there are, 
>> they are set up as FAQ's and not as instructions on how to enter data into 
>> the site. Â I've tried for a month to get some guidance and have received 
>> absolutely nothing from the site when I attempt to register. I know - I know 
>> - I've been told that the site is managed by volunteers - but even 
>> volunteers must have some rules or else the anarchy described in earlier 
>> messages will prevail with everyone doing their own thing
>>
>> 'nuf on my soap box! :-)
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:36 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh Please, please, please - double and triple check both the person, 
>>> cemetery, and town.  It is a dreadful problem that pervades Find-A-Grave 
>>> and is beginning to make it useless.  Do not add to the mess.
>>>
>>>
>>> CE
>>> Â
>>> From:Â br...@the-lightfoots.com
>>> To:Â LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave
>>> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 17:43:42 -0700
>>>
>>> I should add one more suggestion. First, check to see if any of the grave 
>>> memorials that you are going to submit already exist. Find-A-Grave is blind 
>>> in that respect and will easily create two memorials for the same person.
>>> Â
>>>
>>> Brian in California
>>> Â
>>>
>>> Â
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]Â
>>> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:18 AM
>>> To:Â LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave
>>> Â
>>>
>>> Do a search using the Detailed Search tab for the parameters you want to 
>>> include in the template and in the Search List, click on Print.
>>> Select the fields you wish to use and create the report for CSV which can 
>>> be opened in a spreadsheet program.
>>> Â
>>>
>>> However, it won't be in the same format as a already created template 
>>> so you may still need to do some copy/paste or other editing.
>>> Â
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Sherry
>>> Technical Support
>>> Legacy Family Tree
>>> Â
>>>
>>> Â
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Paul Mayerowitz  
>>> wrote:
>>> >Â
>>> >Â
>>> > I would like to input all of my burial information into Find a Grave
>>> > using their excel template.  The upload would include name, cemetery,
>>> > birth date, death date and even tombstone pictures.  Is there a way to
>>> > export this information from Legacy so that I do not have to retype
>>> > all of this information again.
>>>
>>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave

[Robert Runion]

Good points from all who responded.

Part of the problem seems to be that there are no rules or if there are, they 
are set up as FAQ's and not as instructions on how to enter data into the site. 
 I've tried for a month to get some guidance and have received absolutely 
nothing from the site when I attempt to register. I know - I know - I've been 
told that the site is managed by volunteers - but even volunteers must have 
some rules or else the anarchy described in earlier messages will prevail with 
everyone doing their own thing

'nuf on my soap box! :-)

Bob

On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:36 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> Oh Please, please, please - double and triple check both the person, 
> cemetery, and town.  It is a dreadful problem that pervades Find-A-Grave and 
> is beginning to make it useless.  Do not add to the mess.
>
>
> CE
>
> From: br...@the-lightfoots.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave
> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 17:43:42 -0700
>
> I should add one more suggestion. First, check to see if any of the grave 
> memorials that you are going to submit already exist. Find-A-Grave is blind 
> in that respect and will easily create two memorials for the same person.
>
> Brian in California
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:18 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave
>
> Do a search using the Detailed Search tab for the parameters you want to 
> include in the template and in the Search List, click on Print.
> Select the fields you wish to use and create the report for CSV which can be 
> opened in a spreadsheet program.
>
> However, it won't be in the same format as a already created template so 
> you may still need to do some copy/paste or other editing.
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Paul Mayerowitz  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would like to input all of my burial information into Find a Grave
> > using their excel template.  The upload would include name, cemetery,
> > birth date, death date and even tombstone pictures.  Is there a way to
> > export this information from Legacy so that I do not have to retype
> > all of this information again.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave

[Robert Runion]

Brian - I agree - however, after a month and no response from anyone via fina a 
grave as to how to use the site, I thought that piggy backing on a Legacy 
message might produce some insight - which it has.  Thanks for the help.

The

Bob


On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot  wrote:

> I think you must be confusing this Legacy forum and its registration problems 
> with those of Find-A-Grave.
>
> :-)
>
> Brian in California
> (Yes, admittedly all it takes is one email to support to fix any registration 
> problems in Legacy but I just couldn't resist that little comment.)
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Robert Runion [mailto:sarge1...@cox.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:50 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave
>
> Can someone advise how to contact Find-a-grave and how to register as a 
> user  I register about a month ago, never received any data from them, 
> can not log in and after 5+ e-mail messages to some of the addresses noted on 
> the site have never heard from anyone.  I wouldliek to access the forum, but 
> that doesn't appear possible.  Anyone?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Excel Template - Find a Grave

[Robert Runion]

Can someone advise how to contact Find-a-grave and how to register as a 
user  I register about a month ago, never received any data from them, can 
not log in and after 5+ e-mail messages to some of the addresses noted on the 
site have never heard from anyone.  I wouldliek to access the forum, but that 
doesn't appear possible.  Anyone?


On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Bruce Uttley  wrote:

> A couple of notes on the information you want to upload to Find-a-Grave:
>- All the entries in one Excel Template are for a single cemetery.
>  You will have to create a separate spreadsheet for each cemetery
>  where you have burials.  Find-a-Grave also asks for at least 25
>  entries in each template submission.
>- There is no field in the template to enter the filename or image
>  of a tombstone picture.
>
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Paul Mayerowitz wrote:
>
>> I would like to input all of my burial information into Find a Grave using
>> their excel template.  The upload would include name, cemetery, birth date,
>> death date and even tombstone pictures.  Is there a way to export this
>> information from Legacy so that I do not have to retype all of this
>> information again.
>>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mac and Windows

[Robert Runion]

Parallels was my last choice after using Bootcamp and Fusion. Once Parallels is 
up and running, it acts just like a regular PC except, you can move files and 
other data seamlessly from MAC to Windows running on Parallels. Once up and 
running, you can run any Windows program via parallels.

Legacy is a great program, but I am using Reunion 10 for my MAC and find it to 
be a pretty good genealogy program. I realize I will antagonize a lot of Legacy 
fans, but you asked and ' yes - I still use Legacy for some things.

Bob


On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Robert57P_gmail  wrote:

> Probably best if you reply off-list to robert...@gmail.com
>
> I consider myself pretty good at PC technology, but I am a MAC newbie.
> I'm interested in how I get a Windows program like Legacy to run on a MAC.
>
> I've heard of "Parallels" and "boot-camp" - how do they compare (price,
> ease of install, functionality once installed)?
>
> Do they allow me to be in "MAC mode" and run Legacy, or do I need to
> boot direct into a Windows environment?
>
> Do they come with a Windows emulator?  Or is there a free (or cheap)
> emulator I can download?  Or do I need a regular Windows license?
>
> Once I have either Parallels or boot-camp installed, how do I install
> Windows (or a Windows emulator)?
>
> Once Windows is running, are their any tricks to installing a Windows
> program (like Legacy)?
>
> Do I need to install/run a separate instance of Parallels (or boot-camp)
> for each Windows program?  Or once Parallels (or boot-camp) is
> installed, I can then install multiple Windows programs with that product?
>
> Are there any other products I should consider besides Boot-camp and
> parallels?  For example, does Sun/Oracle offer a "VM box" for Mac that
> will then run Windows programs?  (yes, I know, I can find that specific
> question on Sun's sight, just using that as an example since I've used
> Sun's VM box under Windows).
>
> I appreciate any advice you can give.
>
> And, again, since this is not directly Legacy related, please reply to
> me directly, off-list.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on a Mac

[Robert Runion]

Marie - I've been running Parallels (Versions 6 through 8) for several years 
and it works just fine.  I tried Bootcamp and it is a good program, but the 
restarting issue is a drawback for me. Unless it has changed within the past 
couple of years, Bootcamp requires a restart to get to the system you wish to 
use.  In Parallels, you can move almost effortlessly between the MAC OSX and 
Windows 7. I say effortlessly because there are a few things one needs to get 
used to - otherwise, it is the best of both OS worlds.

Bob

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> Sorry I didn't change the subject line on my last post so am re-sending it.
>
> Has anyone split the drive on an Mac and loaded Windows on one part of the 
> drive to run Legacy?
>
> Is it doable?
>
> Will Legacy run on a Mac using the Boot Camp software?
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
> Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
> ---
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> service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under 
> license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] error 3163

[Robert Runion]

Geez Mike - have you never heard that a picture is worth a thousand words in 
trying to convey some information? My apologies if it offended your 
sensibilities.

Bob

On Aug 9, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:

> On 2012/08/09 22:58, Robert Runion wrote:
>> Jim - I've tried all the suggestions and what I am trying to do is to import 
>> a
>> GEDCOM into an already existing .fbd file, and the following is what I get.
>>  I've opened the .fdb file, performed the file maintenance, exported it to
>> GEDCOM and reopened it.  I've imported the GEDCOM file into a new family 
>> file,
>> performed the file maintence, and saved it as a GEDCOM.  Then when I import 
>> this
>> GEDCOM into the new family file, this is the error I get. I use an iMAC 
>> running
>> Parallels 7 running Windows 7 Pro into whihc I have my Legacy program loaded.
>>  This setup worked before, but this is the first instance I've noted that
>> produced this error.
>
> Robert,
>
> I don't think EVERYONE wants to see an image of your desktop.
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[LegacyUG] error 3163

[Robert Runion]

What is the solution to error 3163?  I do not know how to correct it.

Bob




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Robert Runion]

Jenny - Your method appears to be pretty much what I do - a master source 
'file' for the County/State birth certificates source and a detail 'file' for 
the individual birth certificate. Under this method, there would be two sources 
attached to a single person. This method appeals to me because it links where 
the data was obtained and preserves an 'image' of the data for visual review of 
where and when I obtained the information.

Bob

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

>
> RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.  Should a
>> scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a Multimedia 'file'
>> under the event detail, or should the scanned document be added under the
>> master source as a 'file'?
>>
>
> It depends on the nature of the document and the way you have set up your
> Master Source.
>
> I have one Master Source for all Birth Certificates from a particular
> county Register Office.  Each Birth Certificate scan is attached to the
> Source Detail.
>
> There was a biographical pamphlet published about my Great Grandfather.
> This has it's own Master Soure and the scan of the pamphlet is attached to
> the Master Source.  (Source Detail might refer to a particular fact on a
> particular page, in which case the relevant text is copied into the Source
> Detail Text field.)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Robert Runion]

Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery listings and 
census data as you state and I add those to the Master source as a 'file', 
rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry as a Master Source 'file' 
would not show as an icon in any subsequent book I might print? But, if I 
inadvertently added it as a 'picture', in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen 
some years ago), the item icon showed along with the 'real' pictures in the 
resultant book print.  A bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as 
opposed to scanned or digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' 
appears to be preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries 
carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:

> Either or both.
>
> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
> Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>
> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I would
> link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>
> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
> like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
> Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>
> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different Master
> Source for every single census record, then it would be Master Source.
>
> If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and click
> on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one called
> Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture. If it's a
> picture it's a picture. If it's a document, as you've described it, it
> shows up as document-looking icon.
> ---
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> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
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>
> On 7/30/2012 7:14 PM, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.  Should a 
>> scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a Multimedia 'file' 
>> under the event detail, or should the scanned document be added under the 
>> master source as a 'file'?
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Race -

[Robert Runion]

I wholeheartedly agree with the last comment - my attempt at humor apparently 
fell flat - so can we get back to genealogy?


On Jul 6, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:

> Seems to me that this thread has deteriorated to the point where it has 
> nothing to do with legacy & has become a soapbox.
> Can we terminate it please?
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Robert Runion [mailto:sarge1...@cox.net]
> Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2012 4:11 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Race -
>
> So - how 'bout us 'Appalachian-Americans'
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:16 AM, David C Abernathy wrote:
>
>> I have to agree with John. If there are "African Americans" Then we have 
>> "Asian Americans", "European Americans" and etc.
>>
>> By the way, there are three continents that make up the America's. North 
>> America, Central America and South America. I know of NO country that is 
>> named America, it is "USA" United States of America.
>>
>> The term "African American" has been forced in our faces to the point that 
>> it is being used as an excuse in more ways than one.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David C Abernathy
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:32 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Race -
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Please refrain from generalizing about what "many Americans"
>> think, or do not think.  I've lived in the United States of America
>> for nearly 69 years, and have never met a single American who thinks
>> Africa is a country, and not a continent.  Such generalizations are
>> just as inaccurate as the term African American. :-)
>>
>> John
>>
>> John Zimmerman
>> Mesa, AZ
>>
>>
>> On 7/5/2012 5:33 PM, runolf...@aol.com wrote:
>>> African American in considered by some as a race but anyone born in
>>> Africa and now in America would fit that description. Not all people
>>> from Africa are black. That is where some confusion can come in. Many
>>> Americans think Africa is a country, it is a continent, of many
>>> nations and people. It comes down to education, accuracy, and being
>>> proud of who you and your family are. I have family members that try
>>> to recreate our family, drives me crazy.
>>> I go for accuracy.
>>> Bill
>>> In a message dated 7/5/2012 5:11:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net writes:
>>>
>>>   David is the second person that has commented on this
>>>   thread, saying that people need to be careful not to
>>>   "confuse" race with nation of origin.  This totally
>>>   baffles me as to how anyone wouldn't know what the
>>>   difference between a person's race and their nation of
>>>   origin. American and South African are nationalities.
>>>Caucasian is a race.  How would someone confuse the
>>>   two?  Japanese is a nationality.  Asian is a race.
>>>Again, how do you confuse the two?
>>>
>>>   Ron Bernier
>>>   Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>   On Jul 5, 2012, at 7:26 PM, David Abernathy
>>>   >>   <mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Only some of them (census) had contained race.
>>>>
>>>>   Also one needs to careful as to what is a race and
>>>>   not a nation of origin.
>>>>
>>>>   Sent from my Kindle Fire
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>>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Race -

[Robert Runion]

So - how 'bout us 'Appalachian-Americans'


On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:16 AM, David C Abernathy wrote:

> I have to agree with John. If there are "African Americans" Then we have 
> "Asian Americans", "European Americans" and etc.
>
> By the way, there are three continents that make up the America's. North 
> America, Central America and South America. I know of NO country that is 
> named America, it is "USA" United States of America.
>
> The term "African American" has been forced in our faces to the point that it 
> is being used as an excuse in more ways than one.
>
> Thanks,
> David C Abernathy
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> -Original Message-
> From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:32 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Race -
>
> Bill,
>
> Please refrain from generalizing about what "many Americans"
> think, or do not think.  I've lived in the United States of America for 
> nearly 69 years, and have never met a single American who thinks Africa is a 
> country, and not a continent.  Such generalizations are just as inaccurate as 
> the term African American. :-)
>
> John
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
> On 7/5/2012 5:33 PM, runolf...@aol.com wrote:
>> African American in considered by some as a race but anyone born in
>> Africa and now in America would fit that description. Not all people
>> from Africa are black. That is where some confusion can come in. Many
>> Americans think Africa is a country, it is a continent, of many
>> nations and people. It comes down to education, accuracy, and being
>> proud of who you and your family are. I have family members that try
>> to recreate our family, drives me crazy.
>> I go for accuracy.
>> Bill
>> In a message dated 7/5/2012 5:11:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net writes:
>>
>>David is the second person that has commented on this
>>thread, saying that people need to be careful not to
>>"confuse" race with nation of origin.  This totally
>>baffles me as to how anyone wouldn't know what the
>>difference between a person's race and their nation of
>>origin. American and South African are nationalities.
>> Caucasian is a race.  How would someone confuse the
>>two?  Japanese is a nationality.  Asian is a race.
>> Again, how do you confuse the two?
>>
>>Ron Bernier
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>>On Jul 5, 2012, at 7:26 PM, David Abernathy
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>Only some of them (census) had contained race.
>>>
>>>Also one needs to careful as to what is a race and
>>>not a nation of origin.
>>>
>>>Sent from my Kindle Fire
>>>In God We Trust
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Families - Syncing from Laptop to New IPad

[Robert Runion]

Many thanks for the information.  I was able to wend my way to one of the 
Webinars from April 11 that I had missed. Legacy so graciously placed  it on 
indefinite view at: 
http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/webinars/2012-04-11-families/2012-04-11-families.html

Malcolm Green certainly answered most of my questions and I now have a better 
understanding of how to use the 'Families Sync' app on my Parallel setup on my 
iMAC.  Now off to buy my iPAD …

Thanks Geoff for allowing me access to the Webinar - it was most educational.

Bob

On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:49 AM, Robert Runion wrote:

> Could you elaborate on the instructions in the referenced web site? I am 
> unfamiliar with Families since I run Legacy on my iMAC desktop via Parallels 
> 7 and then Windows 7.  How would I be able to  use an iPAD to run Legacy 
> under these conditions?
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Leon Chapman wrote:
>
>> Follow the instructions at the URL below
>>
>> http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/styled-3/index.html
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>
>> On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Laura Johnson  wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone who has experience with Families help me to sync my Legacy
>>> file to my new iPad.  It worked fine to do my iPhone but I cannot figure
>>> out what I am doing wrong with the iPad.
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Families - Syncing from Laptop to New IPad

[Robert Runion]

Could you elaborate on the instructions in the referenced web site? I am 
unfamiliar with Families since I run Legacy on my iMAC desktop via Parallels 7 
and then Windows 7.  How would I be able to  use an iPAD to run Legacy under 
these conditions?

Bob


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> Follow the instructions at the URL below
>
> http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/styled-3/index.html
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>
> Sent from my iPad
> Leon Chapman
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> On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Laura Johnson  wrote:
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>> Can someone who has experience with Families help me to sync my Legacy
>> file to my new iPad.  It worked fine to do my iPhone but I cannot figure
>> out what I am doing wrong with the iPad.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN Numbers

[Robert Runion]

>From a purely selfish standpoint, I hope there are no changes to the MRIN 
>numbering system.  I would prefer it just as it is since I have predicated my 
>filing system of source documents on the 'MRIN+nnn' system and it would cause 
>havoc with my files.  Please leave it as it is.  If unused numbers are filled 
>in as I add marriages, that is OK - but to re-number them, please don't. So 
>there may be 'holes' in the numbers, so what? With computer storage devices as 
>large as they are now, storage isn't that expensive and a number is a number 
>is a number - to paraphrase Richard Burton.

Bob

On May 25, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Mike Fry wrote:

> On 2012/05/25 10:47, RHS Consulting wrote:
>> Where can I find info on the MRIN numbering system? Under Show Help Index ...
>> MRIN > Number > Renumbering does not open. Also there is nothing listed 
>> under >
>> Options > Customize. I am trying to clean up recommended File Maintenance >
>> Check/Repair discrepancies.
>
> It opens on my system, thus:-
>
>
> Renumbering RINs and MRINs
>
>
>
>
>
> The Renumber RINs screen is reached by choosing Renumber RINs from the Tools 
> menu.
>
>
>
> Background
>
> Each individual and marriage record in a family file is assigned a unique 
> record
> number when it is added.  If all you did was add new records, these numbers
> would always be sequential with no holes.  But, in reality, numbers are
> abandoned when you delete people or merge duplicate records together.  In 
> theory
> this does not cause any problems.  Many people, however, would like to keep 
> the
> numbers as small as possible and so Legacy provides a way to manage this.
>
>
>
> The first way that Legacy manages the reuse of abandoned record numbers is 
> with
> an option in the Customize area that tells Legacy to fill in the unused 
> numbers
> whenever new records are added.  This option is set by choosing Options >
> Customize and then going to the Data Defaults tab and selecting the Reuse
> Abandoned RINs at the center-left.  This takes care of most of the situation.
> But sometimes you might want to take a more proactive measure to fill in a lot
> of "holes" created by a large merge.  Here is where the Renumber RINs option
> comes into effect and gives you many choices.
>
>
>
> Both Individual and Marriage record numbers can be changed.
>
>
>
> Individuals
>
> Renumber Current RIN # to:  __  - Use to change the RIN of the current
> individual to a different number.  When the change is made the person that was
> using the new number gets the old number.  For example, if you take a person
> with a RIN of 16 and renumber that person to #1, the person that had #1 will 
> now
> be #16.  They just swap numbers.  If no one had #1 then #16 is just changed to
> #1 leaving #16 as unused.  This option is usually used to renumber a few 
> people
> at the beginning of a file.  For example, if your mother gave you a copy of 
> her
> file you might load it in, find your name and renumber yourself to #1.  You
> might then renumber your spouse to #2, your parents to #3 and #4, and so on.
> After a couple generations it just doesn't matter any more so you stop.
>
>
>
> Fill Missing RINs from RINs greater than or equal to: __ - Takes records
> from the end of the file that are numbered greater than or equal to the cutoff
> point you specified and renumbers them to fill in holes below your cutoff 
> point.
>  This fills in the holes without changing any of the RINs below your cutoff
> number.  (This might not fill all the holes below your cutoff point if there 
> are
> not enough numbers above it.  You also might end up with holes above your 
> cutoff
> point.)
>
>
>
> Fill all Missing RINs from highest RINs - Takes records from the end of the 
> file
> and renumbers them to fill in all the holes.  The end result is that there are
> no more holes left in the family file.  They are all filled in.
>
>
>
> Marriages
>
> Renumber Current MRIN # to:  __  - Use to change the MRIN of the current
> marriage to a different number.  When the change is made the marriage that was
> using the new number gets the old number.  For example, if you take a marriage
> with a MRIN of 50 and renumber that marriage to #1, the marriage that had #1
> will now be #50.  They just swap numbers.  If no marriage had #1 then #50 is
> just changed to #1 leaving #50 as unused.  This option is usually used to
> renumber a few marriages at the beginning of a file.  For example, if your
> mother gave you a copy of her file you might load it in, find your marriage 
> and
> renumber it to #1.  You might then renumber your parents to #2, your
> grandparents to #3 and #4, and so on.  After a couple generations it just
> doesn't matter any more so you stop.
>
>
>
> Fill Missing MRINs from MRINs greater than or equal to: __ - Takes records
> from the end of the file that are numbered greater than or equal to the cutoff
> point you specified and renumbers them to fill in holes below your cutoff 
> po

[LegacyUG] 32-Bit vs 64-Bit Windows

[Robert Runion]

I have been advised that my virtual machine is running Windows 7 as a 32-bit 
package.  Will Legacy work if I install a 64-bit Windows 7 package?


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Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions

[Robert Runion]

In some of my indexing, I have encountered errors by the Census taker where the 
county of residence in 1935 was entered int the State column.  I debated about 
how to enter the data but finally erred on the side of the instructions and 
entered the data as recorded.  An example is 'Avery' was entered in the State 
column and I know from the other data that that should have been entered as 
Avery Co., North Carolina.  Be that as it may, I entered the data as shown and 
as recommended.  Is this compounding an obvious error?  I leave it to others to 
decide.

bob

On May 1, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 30/04/2012 23:46, mbstx wrote:
>> To me, it's not so much the quality of the image as the quality of the
>> indexing.  There are a multitude of errors in the previous census
>> databases on Ancestry.com (and some in FamilySearch as well, but not as
>> many I believe).  FamilySearch is trying to use indexers who understand
>> the batches they're working one, particularly re surnames, and other
>> things that might be misinterpreted.
>
> But wherever possible one should record what is actually written on the
> Census sheet, not what is obviously a bad transcription.
>
> This is one reason why it's important to cite the full Source, including
> the website.  If a person's name is transcribed (wrongly) as Jane on one
> site and (correctly) as James on another, someone trying to follow up
> your record of Jane, but using a different site to you, might not find
> the record.
>
> Sometimes what is written on the Census sheet is obviously incorrect,
> but I still record exactly what is written.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy on an Imac with Snow Leopard

[Robert Runion]

I can only re-iterate Leon's appraisal of using Legacy on an iMAC.  I've tried 
a number of programs - Wine, VMWare, Bootcamp, Parallels, etc., but I settled 
on Parallels 7 on my iMAC currently running Lion, added Windows 7 and loaded 
Legacy with no problems.  I've run this combination for at least the last 4+ 
years with various versions of MAC OS , Windows OS (XP and now 7) and Parallels 
6 and 7 versions. This setup seems to work about as flawlessly as I have 
encountered. It permits me to switch between MAC OS and Windows OS without many 
issues and Legacy work great in this environment.

Bob
s...@cox.net

On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:21 PM, Leon Chapman wrote:

> Sandra:
>
> Just buy Parallels or VMWare and install Windows 7 and then you can
> install Legacy under Windows.  Another option is to use BootCamp
> (Free) that comes with the Mac to boot up in Windows.  Paralles or
> VMWare will cost about $50 and a copy of Windows will cost about $100.
>
> Legacy runs just fine on my MacBook Pro using Parallels.
> It also runs just fine using VMWare.
>
> Parallels and VMWare let you run Virtual Machines (Windows) using the
> Mac operating system.
>
> I am surprised you are still running Snow Leopard.   OS X Lion is the
> current release of Mac OS.  Apple is going to release OS X Mountain
> Lion this summer which means you will be 2 generations behind in your
> operating system.
>
> ___
> Leon Chapman
> chap...@gmail.com
> -
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Sandra Crashley  wrote:
>> Hi - I recently read a comment on "Legacy Family Tree update available
>> (7.4.0.45)"
>> “For those of you that prefer to use Imac ... there is now some good news.
>> This version has been successfully loaded onto an Imac running Snow Leopard
>> OS 10.6 using the Wine windows emulator version 1.1.44. It appears to work
>> perfectly. The only requirement needed is to change the default path for
>> the web browser to look for internet explorer within the Wine set up."
>> I have an Imac with Snow Leopard
>> My questions - what is Wine windows emulator version 1.1.44
>> AND HOW DO I change the default path for
>> the web browser to look for internet explorer within the Wine set up."
>> I need step by step instructions please because I want to get back to using
>> Legacy again
>> and am willing to buy the Legacy update if it will genuinely work on my
>> Imac.
>> Regards Sandra
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate Problem

[Robert Runion]

Laird - Thanks a million - that is the best explanation I have ever seen on 
this subject.  The numbering at the highest point is a revelation to me and 
well worth trying.  Many thanks for the clarity and the response.

Bob

On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Laird wrote:

> Robert,
> In addition to importing your GEDCOM into a new file and clean it up first.  
> You
> can add one or more sources to indicate where you got the GEDCOM from etc.  
> When
> it is time to merge it with your main data base:
>
> Maintain the new file as a Legacy file, DO NOT export it as a GEDCOM to be
> merged with your main database.
> BACKUPBACKUP, maybe rename.
>
> When you import the newfile.fdb, tell Legacy to renumber the individual [RIN]
> and marriage [MRIN] numbers to a number exceeding the highest numbers in your
> main database.  Say if you had 10,000 individuals in your main database and 
> your
> highest RIN was 11, 381 (you will likely have some skipped numbers and this is
> OK, don't worry about it) , you might renumber the import starting with 11,382
> or a little higher.  To find the highest RIN in your main database select the
> index tab and click the RIN button at the top left of window.  Then scroll to
> the bottom of the list and note the highest RIN used.
>
> Same story with the MRINs.  To find the highest MRIN go to View>Marriage List,
> click MRIN in the top left of window and scroll to the bottom of the list and
> note the highest number used.
>
> Next you will go to:   File > Import From > Legacy File>   and find your
> newfile.fdb and click open.  You will select   Add the Legacy information to 
> the
> EXISTING Family File.   Click Proceed, Continue with import and a new window
> named   Legacy Import   will open .  This is where you renumber the RINs, in 
> the
> upper right of the window, selectRenumber RINs from:   put a number higher
> than your highest RIN as noted above.  Also do   MRINs from:   with the higher
> MRIN as noted above.
>
> When you are ready click theStart the Import   button.  When you do the
> merge/check for duplicates you will know all the new import numbers are higher
> than your main database.  After the merge the duplicates will become unused
> RIN/MRINs.  Again don't worry about it.
> Laird
>
> On 4/8/2012 10:55 AM, R G Strong-genes wrote:
>> I agree. Are you importing the gedcom directly into your file? You should
>> import it into a NEW file then do all your duplicate checking, place name
>> formats etc, etc. BEFORE you merge it into your main database. This will
>> eliminate most of your duplicates and will merge more smoothly plus you can
>> create the source for that GEDCOM and the info will import with the new 
>> source.
>> Russ
>> *From:* RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 08, 2012 4:52 AM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate Problem
>> You just have to buckle up and do the Merge/Unlink like we all do. No easy
>> answer. Sorry, Rich in LA CA
>> *From:* RUNION ROBERT 
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 7, 2012 2:50 PM
>> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Duplicate Problem
>>
>> I received a GEDCOM file that I would like to add to my files (to a backup
>> copy just as a safeguard).  In importing the GEDCOM of approximately 2000+
>> names, I have discovered duplication of about half of the persons imported.
>> Is there a recommended way to eliminate the duplications?  I tried the
>> duplication process and it appears that I have to address each pair
>> separately.  This creates a problem when looking at the names and data as to
>> which one is the accurate one or even if it is a duplication.  Suggestions?
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate Problem

[Robert Runion]

Thanks Rich - I was afraid that would be the answer. :-)

Bob in KS

On Apr 8, 2012, at 3:52 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

> You just have to buckle up and do the Merge/Unlink like we all do. No easy 
> answer. Sorry, Rich in LA CA
>
> From: RUNION ROBERT 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 2:50 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate Problem
>
> I received a GEDCOM file that I would like to add to my files (to a backup 
> copy just as a safeguard).  In importing the GEDCOM of approximately 2000+ 
> names, I have discovered duplication of about half of the persons imported.  
> Is there a recommended way to eliminate the duplications?  I tried the 
> duplication process and it appears that I have to address each pair 
> separately.  This creates a problem when looking at the names and data as to 
> which one is the accurate one or even if it is a duplication.  Suggestions?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] census research tool

[Robert Runion]

CONSTANCE - Thanks - I had not thought to look there. Will give it a try.

Bob

On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Oregon Rain wrote:

> Before I joined this list I wrote to support. And Dummy me had my tool bar 
> set so the icons were not showing.  Thanks to support my little gray cells 
> found the problem.
> Go to Options then to Customize. When the box opens click on OTHER. On the 
> right hand side you will see BUTTON BAR LOCATION. Click on top or bottom and 
> the icons will appear and the census research tool icon is on the end..
>
> Constance
>
> -Original Message-
> From: R G Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:07 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stability of V 7.5.0.166
>
> Bob,
> Open a search and you will see that the last tab is the census research
> tool.
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sarge1...@cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:51 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Cc: Linda Hauley
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Stability of V 7.5.0.166
>
> Please elaborate on the 'census research tool', I am not familiar with it
> and do not see it on my Legacy items.
>
> Bob
>
>  Linda Hauley  wrote:
>> I’ve had no problems since upgrading to .166.  The census research tool is
>> wonderful
>>
>>
>>
>> Linda J. Hauley
>>
>> Recycled Memories Family History Research
>>
>> GOONS Canada East Regional Representative
>>
>> VODDEN One Name Study
>>
>> Member #4335
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
>> Sent: March 20, 2012 1:47 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stability of V 7.5.0.166
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't experienced any of the problems mentioned here.
>>
>>
>> --Paula
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  _
>>
>> From: Jennifer Crockett 
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 8:12:46 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Stability of V 7.5.0.166
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I am currently on Version: 7.5.0.112
>>
>> Given the problems associated with later versions, I hesitated to upgrade
>> to
>> Version: 7.5.0.166.
>>
>> Does anyone still have problems with this latest version? I have been sent
>> a
>> Legacy file to look at by a relative, and can't open it in my current
>> version as he used the latest one.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jennifer
>> http://colston-wenck.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Clipboard Issue

[Robert Runion]

I believe you have to click on the left icon to put the data on the clipboard - 
the right icon pastes the data to another location.

On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Larry Lee wrote:

> Anybody else have this issue in Version: 7.5.0.166?
>
> When editing an Event,  clicking the Icon (bottom right) to copy to
> the clipboard does nothing.
>
> Larry  Lee
> There are no problems! Only challenges.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports

[Robert Runion]

On one of my four saved .fdb files ( I keep several copies just in case I screw 
up one so bad it needs to be trashed), I changed the data file .fdb to .mdb and 
opened it in Access.  I then opened 'tblSR' and deleted the column entitled 
'SrcTitle', then inserted a blank column and renamed it 'SrcTitle', saved it 
and closed Access. I then converted the .mdb file back to .fdb and opened it.  
The duplicate data appears to have been removed since I see only one Source 
title in the book endnotes.  Kind of a long way around, but I accomplished what 
I wanted.  If I later decide that I do need the 'Title', I can resort to one of 
my other saved .fdb files.

With regard to my earlier comments about 'File IDs', I'm beginning to question 
why I really need them.  I stopped entering File IDs after setting up 50 of the 
985 sources  with File IDs until I can rationalize whether to proceed with this 
process.

I have my Master Sources numbered in the MRIN-nn format, filed in boxes in that 
order, and also scanned them into my Docs file for addition to an individuals 
events, etc., if needed. As a further precaution, I add the MRIN-nn as a suffix 
to the end of the 'Source List Name' so that I have sources cross-referenced 
for each individual in my file.

Marianne has a point - I am not able to resolve the 'ibid' action, but at least 
my attempted 'fix' removes some of the data that is so redundant in a book 
endnote, but does have a cross-reference to show the source number for each 
individual's Event data.

Bob



> Re Robert's comment on whether the "Title" should be omitted if identical to 
> "Source List Name", that's something that drives me crazy.  It's one more 
> little quirk of Legacy that's easy to forget when making source entries 
> according to Evidence Explained.  I also don't think omitting it solves the 
> "ibid" problem.  Marianne
>
> -Original Message-
>> From: Robert Runion 
>> Sent: Mar 11, 2012 9:47 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports
>>
>> I think I misspoke in my earlier message. When looking at the 'View'  ->  
>> 'Master Lists' -> 'Source…' -> 'edit' ->  'Edit Master Source Definition' -> 
>> and use the same 'name' for the 'Source List Name' and the 'Title', both 
>> 'names' will appear in the same numbered end note of a book - which appeared 
>> to me to be duplications - perhaps not.  Should an entry in 'Title' be 
>> eliminated/omitted when it is identical to the entry in the  'Source List 
>> Name'? It appears that if I leave the 'Title' blank when entering Master 
>> Sources, the first appearance of the source in a book format will be the 
>> full reference reading with subsequent end notes showing as a cversion of 
>> the Master Source, somewhat like Michele indicated.
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> Not only should identical sources not repeat [when they are back to back] 
>>> but once you used a short source [subsequent citation] it should continue 
>>> to use that short citation even if the details are slightly different.  The 
>>> classic example is a book.
>>>
>>> 1st citation [no italics because I am using plain text]:
>>>
>>> Leonard L. Slade Sr., compiler, Lamar County Heritage (Baltimore, MD: 
>>> Gateway Press, Inc., 1978), 237.
>>>
>>>
>>> Subsequent citations:
>>>
>>> Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 237.
>>> Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 142.
>>> Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 68.
>>>
>>> Even though the page number changes,,you should still be using the short 
>>> citation.
>>>
>>> Michele
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net]
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:35 AM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports
>>>
>>> Jemima, Marianne, and Bob:
>>>
>>> Identical source citations should not repeat in reports.  There are certain 
>>> conditions that will cause them to do that but these can be corrected.  To 
>>> get help from the LUG list you need to identify the specific report you're 
>>> generating, whether the repetition is in footnotes, endnotes or 
>>> bibliography, the format you're producing (RTF, HTML, or in the Preview).
>>> If you

Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports

[Robert Runion]

I think I misspoke in my earlier message. When looking at the 'View'  ->  
'Master Lists' -> 'Source…' -> 'edit' ->  'Edit Master Source Definition' -> 
and use the same 'name' for the 'Source List Name' and the 'Title', both 
'names' will appear in the same numbered end note of a book - which appeared to 
me to be duplications - perhaps not.  Should an entry in 'Title' be 
eliminated/omitted when it is identical to the entry in the  'Source List 
Name'? It appears that if I leave the 'Title' blank when entering Master 
Sources, the first appearance of the source in a book format will be the full 
reference reading with subsequent end notes showing as a cversion of the Master 
Source, somewhat like Michele indicated.

Also, I'm still trying to fathom the significance of a 'File ID' when applied 
to a Master Source and a 'File ID' as it may relate to a Detail entry.  If  I 
use the same 'File ID' number in both places (and here is where I must be in 
error), they appear in the end notes of the book as '…... ID: 1234 and Cit. ID: 
1234…' .  I've been using a Source Citation Report (selecting the 'number each 
source' feature during the build) and using those numbers from the resultant 
'File IDs' report to enter File ID's for my Master sources. If I also enter the 
same File ID for a detail, and do an 'Advanced Sourcing' routine to associate 
the information with all those persons using that Master source,  they will be 
identified to a 'Citation Report' with that 'Source Citation' (AKA File ID). 
This report is divided into two parts - the first one is the 'File ID' and the 
second is 'Source Citations'.  The report beomes extremely large very quickly 
when you may have 100-200 persons referenced in a singe source. The process to 
do the foregoing is rather lengthy and too long for this message, but the 
different File ID results in the end notes of a book (descendant narrative) are 
interesting. Positive observations or comments welcomed.

SgtBob


On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:

> Not only should identical sources not repeat [when they are back to back] but 
> once you used a short source [subsequent citation] it should continue to use 
> that short citation even if the details are slightly different.  The classic 
> example is a book.
>
> 1st citation [no italics because I am using plain text]:
>
> Leonard L. Slade Sr., compiler, Lamar County Heritage (Baltimore, MD: Gateway 
> Press, Inc., 1978), 237.
>
>
> Subsequent citations:
>
> Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 237.
> Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 142.
> Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 68.
>
> Even though the page number changes,,you should still be using the short 
> citation.
>
> Michele
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net]
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:35 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports
>
> Jemima, Marianne, and Bob:
>
> Identical source citations should not repeat in reports.  There are certain 
> conditions that will cause them to do that but these can be corrected.  To 
> get help from the LUG list you need to identify the specific report you're 
> generating, whether the repetition is in footnotes, endnotes or bibliography, 
> the format you're producing (RTF, HTML, or in the Preview).
> If you'll be very thorough in posting the description of your condition 
> someone will surely be able to solve the problem.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ArdenholmeGenealogy
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:23 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports
>
> Hello
>
> Does the Ibid. (repeats what is listed in the previous citations) work OK in 
> reports?
>
> I am trying to create an Ancestor book report for an ancestor and notice that 
> the sources at the end of this report are mostly of the same source so it is 
> repeating itself many times.
>
> As I have already checked Ibid in
> Options/Customise/Sources, it doesn't look that it is working in the report 
> function.
>
> I have just been checking the archives for this user group but cannot see any 
> recent posts . Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jemima
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports

[Robert Runion]

I too would like this feature - its distressing to see so many repeats of the 
same source when a book is prepared.

Bob

On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:00 AM, ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote:

> Thanks Marianne
>
> I think I will report a suggestion.
>
> Jemima
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mbstx [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
> Sent: 09 March 2012 18:47
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports
>
> I don't think it's available, and I think it should be.  I've had a horrible 
> time creating reports that require the use of "ibid", and no longer use 
> Legacy to do so, I use just Word, which creates a LOT of extra work.  Marianne
>
> -Original Message-
>> From: ArdenholmeGenealogy 
>> Sent: Mar 9, 2012 12:23 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Does the Ibid. (repeats what is listed in the previous citations) work
>> OK in reports?
>>
>> I am trying to create an Ancestor book report for an ancestor and
>> notice that the sources at the end of this report are mostly of the
>> same source so it is repeating itself many times.
>>
>> As I have already checked Ibid in
>> Options/Customise/Sources, it doesn't look that it is working in the
>> report function.
>>
>> I have just been checking the archives for this user group but cannot
>> see any recent posts . Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jemima
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Norton AntiSpam][LegacyUG] ZIP Files

[Robert Runion]

Thanks - the information furnished was exactly what I was looking for - I was 
able to follow your instructions and have opened a 'zip' file some weeks old 
and restore it to a 'Run….fdb'.

Bob

On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Laird wrote:

> From the help file:
>
> *Restore Family File*
>
>
> *To restore an existing Legacy Family File:*
>
> 1. Choose *Restore Family File...* from the /File/ menu.  The /Select a Family
> File Backup to Restore/ dialog appears.
>
> *Note*:  You should only select a backup of a Family File. To restore 
> Multimedia
> files use the built-in compressed files and folders utility in Windows XP and
> above or a zip file utility such as Winzip.
>
> 2. From the /Restore Location/ dialog box, specify the drive and folder where
> you want the restored Family File placed.
>
> See Backup a Family File for more information on
> backing up a Family File.
> 
>
> On 3/8/2012 10:50 AM, sarge1...@cox.net wrote:
>> I have read the Legacy manual and tried to find this subject in the help 
>> files - but have been unsuccessful. It would appear that using a program 
>> such as WinZip is necessary - another expense.
>>
>> Could you explain how to utilize the '.zip' files that are saved during the 
>> back-up process? e.g., If I wanted to open a zip file I saved a month or so 
>> back, how would I do so and use it in Legacy?
>>
>> This may be Legacy 101, but I could use some help.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] ZIP Files

[Robert Runion]

I disagree with you Mike on this not being a Legacy topic - since the zip files 
are created by Legacy, I need to know how they are utilized within LEgacy

I believe I got enough information from you and others who were kind enough to 
respond - at least to see if I can open (restore?) a zip file to legacy and 
thereby save it as  'xxxcx.fdb'.


On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Mike Fry wrote:

> On 2012/03/08 18:50, sarge1...@cox.net wrote:
>> I have read the Legacy manual and tried to find this subject in the help
>> files - but have been unsuccessful. It would appear that using a program such
>> as WinZip is necessary - another expense.
>>
>> Could you explain how to utilize the '.zip' files that are saved during the
>> back-up process? e.g., If I wanted to open a zip file I saved a month or so
>> back, how would I do so and use it in Legacy?
>>
>> This may be Legacy 101, but I could use some help.
>
> No! If you're using Windows Vista or later then you certainly do not need
> another product. It's built into the Windows Explorer. This is not really a
> Legacy topic. Read the Windows Help.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
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Re: [LegacyUG] Correct location format question

[Robert Runion]

Seems to me that using the GEO location database would produce a standardized 
name for city,county,state,country.


On Mar 3, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:

> Bill,
>
> The correct entry is:
>
> Duvall, King, Washington, United States
>
> "county" should be added only if you don't know the town, i.e.,:
>
> , King county, Washington, United States
>
>
> United States is the format the LDS church uses - not USA.
> Abbreviations should be avoided to prevent confusion.
>
> I live in Redmond, Washington, and if I abbreviate it Redmond, WA,
> someone may interpret that as Redmond, Western Australia .
>
> Locations should be edited using the Master Location List (View >
> Master Lists).  In that list, go to Options > Expand/Contract Location
> Parts to add or change the country name.
>
> If you want to remove "county", go to Search > Search and Replace and
> using Lists-Location, enter
>
> county, (space)   for "Find what"
>
> leave the Replacement text blank.
>
> Search anywhere in field and replace only found text for the other options.
>
>
> Standards for location entry can be found in the book "Getting It
> Right" by Mary Slawson.
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM,   wrote:
>> I have been trying to standardize all of my locations in Legacy, they are a
>> mess. I have 3 questions.
>>
>> 1 What is the correct way to put in the info.
>>
>> Duvall, King County, Washington, USA
>> or
>> Duvall, King, Washington, USA
>>
>> 2 Is there a way to correct my mistakes and standardize my entries other
>> than doing it one by one?
>>
>> 3 Is there a list somewhere showing the correct data entry format for
>> information?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill Runolfson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestion to add Relationship column to Index

[Robert Runion]

Pretty neat CE - I had not used this approach, having opted for the 'Tools' --> 
'Set Relationships' feature that placed the relationship above the individuals 
home screen.  Thanks for sharing this information - Legacy just gets better and 
better.

Bob
.
On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:12 AM, CE WOOD wrote:

> That is already possible.  When in the Index view, click Options.  At the end 
> of each Field Name, there is a box containing three dots.  Click on the box 
> at the end of the first empty Field Name.   A list of Field Names to Display 
> comes up.  Select Relationship from that list.  It will be added to your list 
> of Field Names.  You can move any Field Name up and down to any position you 
> wish.
>
>
> CE
> > From: hwedh...@cox.net
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Suggestion to add Relationship column to Index
> > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:58:40 -0700
> >
> > I just submitted a suggestion to add the option to display a
> > Relationship column to the Index view.
> >
> > John Zimmerman
> > Mesa, AZ
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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

[Robert Runion]

Seems to me that the idea is to be able to associate an individual to the 
sources from which they sprung and to be able to retrieve the data as needed.  
I see no problem with having a person cited on their parents MRIN filing and 
when married 1st, 2nd, etc., that the sources contain the MRIN for that 
marriage.  I have been using this method for many years and am able to retrieve 
the source document no matter if it bears a Grandparent, parent, Uncles 
obituary, etc., with ease.  For example, I have all source data filed by 
MRIN+nnn  (1234-123), the number affixed to each source document, filed that 
way, then scanned to my C:/Legacy/Docs file and added to the referenced 
individual Source/Event as needed. The individual may have sources from a 
plethora of MRIN's, but the filing system allows me to retrieve the document 
either hard copy or from my C:/Legacy/Docs file pretty easy. I'm sure there are 
more elaborate and better systems, but this MRIN+nnn has worked for me thus 
far. I take no credit for this method since this was a system promulgated by 
another Legacy party some years ago and it is pretty intuitive.

Bob

On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:37 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 26/02/2012 00:47, Tony Rolfe wrote:
>> I've started storing scanned or downloaded images etc. in folders named
>> MRIN His name and Her name.  I get a lot of folders, but it seems
>> consistent with the recommendation for paper filing given by Legacy.
>>
>> For those who use a similar system, either electronic or paper-based,
>> how do you handle people who don't have marriages?
>>
>> I've been putting children's birth information in their parent's folder
>> and then creating a folder for the child when they marry.  If a child
>> leaves home and appears on the census, for example, still unmarried and
>> not with their parents, I put that data in the parent's folder, with a
>> name which suggests the child.  E.g.  "1881 Census (M0123).jpg" for the
>> main family's census image, but "1881 Census - Mary Ann (I02345).jpg"
>> for the child's individual entry.
>>
>> My problem is what to do when the child marries.  Should I move the
>> child's information into the new MRIN folder, even though a lot of the
>> info doesn't relate to that marriage?  Should I have Individual folders
>> "RIN Individual Name" for stuff specific to that child?  That wuld mean
>> a huge number of folders.
>>
>> What about second marriages, or what about a previous marriage being
>> discovered?
>>
> All the inconsistencies you point out are the very reason why I don't
> use the MRIN filing system.  There are so many reasons for a person not
> being married or not connected to their parents' marriage/partnership
> that it just seems a nonsense to me.
>
> I keep all my paper records in binders according to the nature of the
> document - eg correspondence, press, certificates, web pages.  Within
> the binders each sheet (or set of pages) has a reference which is
> recorded in the appropriate field in the Source Citation.  Within each
> document each mention of the name of an individual in my family file is
> annotated in the margin with the UserID (which happens to be my family
> code+RIN.)
>
> I don't need to keep multiple copies of any document, I don't need ever
> to move documents from one binder to another and I can easily and
> swiftly track a document from Source Citation to binder or from binder
> to individual in Legacy.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] GenViewer - Last Day

[Robert Runion]

What would I gain with this package?


On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:

> I got mine :)
>
> michele
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:55 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenViewer - Last Day
>
> Well, not the sale of GenViewer, Just the special pricing. Name your price !
>
> Tim
>
> On 2/23/2012 9:47 AM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> Today is the last day (February 23) for the sale of GenViewer. Don't
>> let go bye.
>>
>> www.mudcreeksoftware.com
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] 'Missing.txt' Report

[Robert Runion]

Thanks to all who responded. I do understand the difference between .doc,.xls, 
.pdf, etc and ,jpg, .bmp, .tif, etc., when adding these to the Legacy 
Source/Detail.

I'm still in a quandary as to why the errors even show up as 'Sound/Video' 
errors when I have absolutely nothing in either of those fields for the 'edit 
detail' or 'edit source' (where the selections are 'Picture', 'Sound', 'Video' 
or 'File').

I re-visited each of the errors and re-established the data so that the last 
run produced no 'missing.txt' issues.  The issue appears moot at this juncture 
since the last run of the 'Options' - 'Customize' -  'Locations' - 'Test All 
Multimedia Paths' - 'Proceed' report indicated that 'All Picture, Sound, Video, 
and Document Locations have been verified.'

Bob

On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Mike Fry wrote:

> On 2012/02/20 14:28, Marli Yoder wrote:
>
>> Along the same line- how do you get the "file" to print to a report? the one
>> time I tried I got nothing? Marli
>
> Simple answer... You don't! Only the odd picture gets to be printed.
>
> --
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> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
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Re: [LegacyUG] 'Missing.txt' Report

[Robert Runion]

OK - I have a scanned copy of a will that is a .pdf file in my C://Legacy/Docs. 
 I put it in the 'edit detail' under the 'multimedia' tab.  It still shows as 
an error when I run the Locations report - as follows '…Sound/Video? Individual 
Event: Source Detail: Sarah A. Brookshire (13731…'  - then with the doc file 
following as a second line that reads '…3192-02 May - Lewis A. - Will.pdf…'.

So how do I get rid of the error?

Bob

>> Isn’t it possible to consider a ‘file’ as a ‘multimedia’ item when 
>> I
>> add it to the ‘edit Detail’ feature? Or is the ‘Pictures’ on the
>> Source file the only place that one should place a picture or a
>> ‘Docs’ file?
>
> If you are attaching a PICTURE - ie anything with a .jpg, .tif, .bmp etc
> extension - you use the Picture button to add the multimedia.
>
> If you are attaching any sort of DOCUMENT file - ie anything with a
> .doc, .pdf etc extension - you use the File button to add the multimedia.
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Build .148

[Robert Runion]

A little slack folks - after all the programmers are people - and if my 
experiences in this 79-year old life are any indication, mistakes happen! To 
err is human….etc. It will get fixed, just give Legacy some space to do so asnd 
think of all the good things the program has produced for you over the years.

Bob


On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:22 AM, CE WOOD wrote:

> Oh geez!  Do you have any dreams at night or are they all in the daytime?  
> These people are supposed to be experts; they have beta testers; was this a 
> three martini lunch update?
>
> Major database revisions and screw-ups arenot be easy to fix (certainly not 
> for Legacy, and certainly not without messing something else up totally).  I 
> hope they have not blown their wad on this one!
>
> CE
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:31:10 -0600
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Build .148
> From: kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> I firmly believe they are working feverishly on it, even as we discuss it. 
> That is the admirable thing about Millennia- they *ALWAYS* correct the 
> problems.  I am expecting a corrected version in the next few days- not in 
> the next few minutes. Let's be fair- it does take some time to correct a 
> problem. Dave and Ken probably want it fixed faster than we do!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Robert
> Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Nita Phillips  wrote:
> Is there any chance that the Legacy people will fix the wrongs that have been 
> created with this update?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Apple question

[Robert Runion]

I run Legacy on a 24" iMAC with Parallels 6 running Windows 7.  It works just 
fine and allows moving from Windows to MAC with minimal problems.  The only 
aggravating thing I've encountered is the slow response printing from Windows - 
of course in this day of instant gratification,, it does work, just slower than 
I would like. :-)

Bob

On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:

> Paula,
> I run Legacy daily on my Macbook Pro under Parallels and Windows XP Pro SP3.  
> I haven't tried it with Windows 7 yet but it runs great with this 
> configuration.  I can't speak for those who have used other virtual machine 
> software on their macs but those should work also.  The key is to have 
> sufficient memory to allow the virtual environment to execute the Windows 
> programs as well as the underlying OSX.
> Ron Taylor
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/8/12, Paula Ryburn  wrote:
>
> From: Paula Ryburn 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Apple question
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 8:41 AM
>
> This may be silly, but I am about to get a new computer, and my friends who 
> are offering an opinion say "Apple!" - has anyone hear experienced issues 
> running Legacy on an Apple/Mac ?
> Thanks,
>
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
> Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
> Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes 
> Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts 
> Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photographs

[Robert Runion]

Now - How do I get 4,000+ photographs I have scanned into .jpg reconfigured? :-)

Bob

On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:

> There's an extensive article on our website at
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Help Center > Tips > Pictures, Sound and
> Video: Multimedia Files
>
> You can also access this article through Legacy by clicking on the
> "Tips from the Experts" link in the Support section of the Legacy Home
> tab.
>
> My practice is to scan to TIF for archiving and then save a copy to
> jpg to put in the c:\Legacy\Pictures folder for linking to Legacy.
>
> Mike is correct that you should have a TIF copy for editing and in
> case you want to make big enlargements.  It doesn't degrade like jpg
> does when you edit.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:36 AM,   wrote:
>> I was just viewing an article in Ancestry.com about scanning photos.  They 
>> recommend - or at least it appears so - to save photos in the TIFF format.  
>> What is the current Legacy recommendation?  Most of my photos have been 
>> saved in the .jpg format.  Recommendations please.
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Person Entry Error

[Robert Runion]

Jem - I finally got my problem cleared up. As noted by others, Go to Legacy --> 
Help Center --> Technical Support  --> Solutions by error number --> click on 
error 3021and follow the steps outlined.  The following is a curtailed version, 
but after I ran the 'file maintenance' suggestion, Legacy has not produced the 
3021 error for several day (thanks be):

3. Run File Maintenance - Check/Repair.  Click on File > File Maintenance > 
Check/Repair and follow the prompts.

If the error messages occur during the Check/Repair process, click No to 
continue with the repair.  Do step 2 twice if errors are found.

After doing steps 1 and 2, try Legacy again.  If the program works, you can 
stop here.  No further repairs are needed.  If the program is still not 
functioning correctly, proceed with the following steps.

Bob

On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:46 PM, my...@q.com wrote:

> I also have this problem the solution shown is to add the latest download 
> which I have done and I still have the problem.
> jem
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sherry/Support" 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:19:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Person Entry Error
>
> The solution to this error is on the Legacy website at
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Help Center > Technical Support > Solutions
> by Error Number.
>
> You can also access it by clicking on the Online Troubleshooting
> Support link in the Support section of the Legacy Home tab in Legacy.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:42 AM, RUNION ROBERT  wrote:
>>
>> Need some help in how to handle an error. When I am attempting to 'Add A New 
>> Person' I'm encountering an error which reads: ' ...Error getting next 
>> deleted RIN. Error 3021: No current record.  Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN. 
>> Responses available YES, NO, QUIT…'. It seems to also affect entering a new 
>> marriage on occasion.
>>
>> None of the responses seem to work very well.  Clicking on YES continues to 
>> TRY AGAIN  and again and again and again , so it not useable. NO sometimes 
>> allows me to enter a new person immediately and at other time it will permit 
>> me to enter a new person after a lengthy search.  Quit  closes out Legacy 
>> altogether.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Person Entry Error

[Robert Runion]

Thanks - the File Maintenance feature fixed the problem.

Bob

On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:

> The solution to this error is on the Legacy website at
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>
> You can also access it by clicking on the Online Troubleshooting
> Support link in the Support section of the Legacy Home tab in Legacy.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
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>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:42 AM, RUNION ROBERT  wrote:
>>
>> Need some help in how to handle an error. When I am attempting to 'Add A New 
>> Person' I'm encountering an error which reads: ' ...Error getting next 
>> deleted RIN. Error 3021: No current record.  Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN. 
>> Responses available YES, NO, QUIT…'. It seems to also affect entering a new 
>> marriage on occasion.
>>
>> None of the responses seem to work very well.  Clicking on YES continues to 
>> TRY AGAIN  and again and again and again , so it not useable. NO sometimes 
>> allows me to enter a new person immediately and at other time it will permit 
>> me to enter a new person after a lengthy search.  Quit  closes out Legacy 
>> altogether.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Running Legacy Under Linux

[Robert Runion]

I never could understand the WINE program or get it to work all the time - 
probably my fault since some folks seemed to like it. I also tried a couple of 
other cross-software items, but finally settled on Parallels and have not had a 
lot of issues.  I too would like to get away from Windows, but I am into 
Genealogy and the program I use - Legacy - does not have a MAC version since 
some of the data is dependent on Access.

I've tried a couple of MAC based Genealogy packages, but they do not have the 
flexibility that Legacy seems to have - then too at my age (79), trying to 
re-learn a package is inadvisable! :-)

Bob


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> Bob,
>
> I tried both Wine and Virtual Box and really gave it a good try. I was so 
> burnt by Windows early 2011 that I bought a Macbook and never wanted to see 
> Windows again. It was exhilarating to be divorced from Bill Gates. So, I 
> really didn't want to use my Mac for Windows, but I just couldn't get my 
> Linux laptop to run Legacy. It would run, but the cursor was just 
> uncontrollable. It had a mind of it's own. So far Parallels has been 
> flawless. I tried Virtual Box and another virtual box on my Mac also, can't 
> remember the name of the second box, but neither would run well on my Mac. I 
> didn't want to spend money on Parallels software, but I've been happy.
>
> Thanks for the tip about running in a full window, I just had not tried.
>
> Ric
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Robert Runion  wrote:
> Ric - I run Legacy the same way and it works on full-screen just fine.  I 
> culd never get Linux software to run Legacy - seems that only GRAMPS will 
> work on Linux packages - or at least that was my experience un til I gave up 
> on Linux.
>
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>
> Bob
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Ric Altman wrote:
>
>> I tried and tried but it never worked well. I finally installed Parallels on 
>> my Mac and works great. Haven't tried to get it to play full screen yet 
>> though.
>>
>> Ric
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jerry  wrote:
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>> my hands on the answer.  But are any of you successful (as in nearly
>> 100%) running Legacy under the Linux operating system?   And, if so, are
>> you using Wine or some type of virtual box?   I do not want to run a
>> "small" window size of Legacy.   I need it to be full-size and easy to
>> work with and read.   Thanks, if anyone can help.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Running Legacy Under Linux

[Robert Runion]

Ric - I run Legacy the same way and it works on full-screen just fine.  I culd 
never get Linux software to run Legacy - seems that only GRAMPS will work on 
Linux packages - or at least that was my experience un til I gave up on Linux.

Also, clicking on the 'double ended arrow' on the upper right side of the 
screen sends the Windows to full screen and then you can expand the Legacy to 
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the same 'double ended arrow' to return to a smaller Windows/Legacy screen.

Bob


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> I tried and tried but it never worked well. I finally installed Parallels on 
> my Mac and works great. Haven't tried to get it to play full screen yet 
> though.
>
> Ric
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jerry  wrote:
> I believe I asked this question before and I apologize that I can't lay
> my hands on the answer.  But are any of you successful (as in nearly
> 100%) running Legacy under the Linux operating system?   And, if so, are
> you using Wine or some type of virtual box?   I do not want to run a
> "small" window size of Legacy.   I need it to be full-size and easy to
> work with and read.   Thanks, if anyone can help.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Information

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Thanks - That feature worked as I had hoped.  Too bad the book (page 104) 
doesn't get that specific.  The names used for the various options noted in the 
book differ from the screen, so that may be one reason I was unable to follow.  
Your explanation makes sense and works fine.  Thanks

Bob

On Dec 30, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Brian/Support wrote:

> Go to the first person. Use the + button beside their burial and enter a
> burial address. Enter the notes for that address.
> Go to anyone else buried at the same address.
> Use the + button beside their burial and select the burial address.
> On the address entry screen use the Address List button to open the list
> of current Event Addresses.
> Select the Address you entered and click select to link that address to
> the new person.
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>> Brian - Can you expand on what/how to do this 'linking'?  I've tried the 
>> 'repeat' button, but it doesn't attach the 'notes' portion of the previous 
>> entry to the current data.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Brian/Support wrote:
>>
>>> If you enter the information as a Burial Address, typically the address
>>> of the cemetery, you can add notes to that address then, by linking the
>>> address to everyone who is buried at that address you will be linking
>>> the address and the associated notes at the same time.
>>>
>>> If you want to record a plot number or something similar for each burial
>>> in the cemetery then you would have to manually enter that as a burial
>>> note separate from the burial address.
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>>> On 29/12/2011 9:02 AM, sarge1...@cox.net wrote:
>>>> I do use the 'repeat' button, but it only enters the actual Burial site, 
>>>> address, coordinates, etc. It does not appear that it repeats the 'notes' 
>>>> as part of this feature.  I like to enter where the cemetery is located 
>>>> and how to get to it  into the notes.  Guess I'll have to re-type that 
>>>> data for those additional folks buried in the same cemetery if I elect 
>>>> this feature.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Information

[Robert Runion]

Brian - Can you expand on what/how to do this 'linking'?  I've tried the 
'repeat' button, but it doesn't attach the 'notes' portion of the previous 
entry to the current data.

Bob


On Dec 29, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Brian/Support wrote:

> If you enter the information as a Burial Address, typically the address
> of the cemetery, you can add notes to that address then, by linking the
> address to everyone who is buried at that address you will be linking
> the address and the associated notes at the same time.
>
> If you want to record a plot number or something similar for each burial
> in the cemetery then you would have to manually enter that as a burial
> note separate from the burial address.
>
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> On 29/12/2011 9:02 AM, sarge1...@cox.net wrote:
>> I do use the 'repeat' button, but it only enters the actual Burial site, 
>> address, coordinates, etc. It does not appear that it repeats the 'notes' as 
>> part of this feature.  I like to enter where the cemetery is located and how 
>> to get to it  into the notes.  Guess I'll have to re-type that data for 
>> those additional folks buried in the same cemetery if I elect this feature.
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Information

[Robert Runion]

Jenny - TYhat is about what I have been doing - I guess I was looking at how to 
add the same data to each burila address without having to type it for each 
person.  Not unlike the addition of an event from one person to another.


On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 23/12/2011 13:59, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>> What is the proper way to enter a burial 'address' and 'notes' for a
>> person where multiple persons have the same data? Should this data be
>> added as an event also?
>
> I don't really know why the fact that multiple persons have the same
> data should make any difference to how/where you enter it.  I have lots
> of instances of several people having the same data and I just enter the
> data in the usual way and copy and paste or use the Repeat button.  I
> enter Burial addresses in the Burial Location field, but some people
> prefer to use the specific Burial Address field.  Any notes I would
> enter in Burial Notes.
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering census information

[Robert Runion]

Or - if you have scan capability, you could scan the two or more into one 
document (say a .pdf) or .jpg if you prefer, save it and use just one source 
for the census event.


Bob

On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Lisa Gorrell wrote:

> I would create one event with two images, pg 1 & pg 2.
>
> Lisa Gorrell
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Bruce Jones  wrote:
> I have been following Geoff's instructions for entering census information 
> but have come across a question.
> How do you deal with census information where the family is split over two 
> pages?
> - Create two Events with two citations (one citation for each page)?
> - Create one Event with two citations?
> - Create one Event with one citation that has two images?
> - Other?
> Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report for Family Reuion

[Robert Runion]

Try going to Books/Other --> Descendant Narrative -->  select the number of 
generations --> Select 'Index Options and set it up so you get names in 
one/two/three columns --> setup for pictures in the report options.  Should get 
you close to what you are seeking.

Bob

On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:

> I'm trying to make a book type report for a family reunion.   I've tried all 
> our options, so much duplication, about 250 pgs., depending on options I 
> choose.   I tried to do one on my own, copy/paste from a pdf, but then I'd 
> really like and index of Names.   I'm sure many of you have tried this, 
> anyone with a good success?
> Thanks,
> Syble
>
> Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
> Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, 
> Waters, Wheat
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[LegacyUG] Webinar - Entering Census

[Robert Runion]

Geoff - I'm getting and error when I try to add the census 'Given', 'Surname;, 
or other entries as depicted in the video. The error is '...3163: The field is 
too small to accept the amount pf data you attempted to add…..'. Can you advise 
what I am doing wrong?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Mac

[Robert Runion]

My 2 Cents - I run Legacy on an iMAC using Windows 7 and Parallels.  It also 
worked when I was using Fusion. You get all the benefits of Legacy and the MAC 
system - not a bad deal.


On Aug 1, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:

> Legacy runs on newer Macs with Windows installed under Bootcamp,
> Parallel or Fusion
>
> Tim
>
> On 8/1/2011 1:33 PM, Jo Comaris wrote:
>> I have used legacy for several years on my pc, I want to get a Mac, and I
>> notice that the specifications say that it will run on newer Mac models with
>> a windows program.  Has anyone done this? And does it work OK?
>>
>> Jo
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia backup

[Robert Runion]

Thank you = thank you = thank you - I just knew it was something I had done to 
alter my files.  Looking forward to a fix so I wont have to tread through all 
those entries. :-)

Bob

On Jul 23, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Brian/Support wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I have confirmed this as an error. As Ron guessed in his reply the
> message was not updated when the documents (files) category was added to
> Sounds and Videos. I have entered a problem report to have the message
> updated to read
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> On 23/07/2011 7:23 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>> I'm not sure what has occurred with my Locations for Sounds, Videos and 
>> Docs.  In the course of setting up events for my entries, I add a 'file' to 
>> the event, whether it be .xls, .doc, or .pdf as a multimedia item under 
>> 'detail' that I get from my scanned 'C:\Legacy\Docs\ source. I have never 
>> ever added a Sound or a Video to any detail or master source, so I cannot 
>> figure why the errors are showing as Sounds/Videos.
>>
>> Until a short time ago, when I ran the locations for multimedia, I had no 
>> errors.  Just recently, when I run this feature, I get about 400 
>> discrepancies and I cannot figure what occurred.  Most of these are 'files' 
>> as opposed to pictures (i.e. ,pdf, ,doc, .xls) that show up as 'sound/video' 
>> errors. An example -  '...Sound/Video: Individual Event: Source Detail: 
>> Alvin Weber ...'.  Since I have never entered anything as a 'Sound/video'  
>> for any of my entries, why is this now an error?  I've spent hours running 
>> different scenarios on my file and on one or more backup files.  If I go 
>> into the individual's event, it will show the 'file' under the 'detail' but 
>> it will not appear if I select 'play'.  If I re-install the event 'file' as 
>> a multimedia entry, the item will disappear from the error listing when I 
>> run the multimedia locations report.
>>
>> Anyone have an idea what I may have done to cause this?  Has there been a 
>> program change recently that might have caused this to occur? I hate to 
>> re-visit all these discrepancies when I know not what caused it to occur, 
>> since I may be doomed to have a repeat of the same problem.
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia backup

[Robert Runion]

I'm not sure what has occurred with my Locations for Sounds, Videos and Docs.  
In the course of setting up events for my entries, I add a 'file' to the event, 
whether it be .xls, .doc, or .pdf as a multimedia item under 'detail' that I 
get from my scanned 'C:\Legacy\Docs\ source. I have never ever added a Sound or 
a Video to any detail or master source, so I cannot figure why the errors are 
showing as Sounds/Videos.

Until a short time ago, when I ran the locations for multimedia, I had no 
errors.  Just recently, when I run this feature, I get about 400 discrepancies 
and I cannot figure what occurred.  Most of these are 'files' as opposed to 
pictures (i.e. ,pdf, ,doc, .xls) that show up as 'sound/video' errors. An 
example -  '...Sound/Video: Individual Event: Source Detail: Alvin Weber ...'.  
Since I have never entered anything as a 'Sound/video'  for any of my entries, 
why is this now an error?  I've spent hours running different scenarios on my 
file and on one or more backup files.  If I go into the individual's event, it 
will show the 'file' under the 'detail' but it will not appear if I select 
'play'.  If I re-install the event 'file' as a multimedia entry, the item will 
disappear from the error listing when I run the multimedia locations report.

Anyone have an idea what I may have done to cause this?  Has there been a 
program change recently that might have caused this to occur? I hate to 
re-visit all these discrepancies when I know not what caused it to occur, since 
I may be doomed to have a repeat of the same problem.

Bob

fOn Jul 22, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:

> It wouldn't because the pictures are in the same file path as they're
> referenced in the Family File.
>
> That's why we recommend using those folders.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Charles Apple
>  wrote:
>> Does this problems arise when storing multimedia within subfolders of 
>> C:\Legacy\Pictures?
>> As an example;
>>
>> C:\Legacy\Pictures\Groups
>> C:\Legacy\Pictures\Docs
>> C:\Legacy\Pictures\Places
>>
>> Thank you for your assistance,
>>
>> Charles
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:24 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia backup
>>
>> That's because every computer has a slightly different file structure for 
>> the documents and settings and why we encourage users to place the pictures 
>> they're going to link to in Legacy in the appropriate sub-folder in the 
>> c:\Legacy folder.
>>
>> That way you won't have pictures go "missing" because of the difference in 
>> the file structure.
>>
>> Legacy stores the full path to the pictures in the Family File.
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] number of people in your file

[Robert Runion]

I have about 23,000 and it works about as it did when I had 1,000. Takes a tad 
longer on some reports, but it isn't noticeable.



On Jul 2, 2011, at 8:29 PM,  
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> I am curious, how many people do you have in your file?  I have 7800 and I 
> think that is a lot.  I am wondering if you have exceptionally large files 
> does it slow down at all?  Do you need to do the file maintenance more often? 
>  Compact more often?
>
> michele
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Mac

[Robert Runion]

Scott - I've talked to support and they tell me it is a printer problem and not 
a MAC issue - I've learned to 'work around' it though so it isn't as bad a 
problem as I may have indicated. As you indicate - I love my MAC - there is so 
much more stability and I'm not always 'tweaking' some issue as I do on my PC. 
Just wish Legacy had a MAC program, but I understand that Legacy is a Windows 
platform. I've used a couple of the MAC genealogy programs, but none of them 
approach the Legacy for usability.

I used Parallels, Fusion and Bootcamp - finally settled on the Bootcamp package 
and it works just like any PC when in its configuration.  Installing the 
program isn't difficult - I'm no techie, but following the instructions was 
pretty easy.  Then Windows 7 install was just as though it was on a regular PC. 
As Scott said though, if you are reticent about doing it yourself, the tech 
folks are great in helping to get you going.


On May 17, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Scott Hall wrote:

> iMac user here ... the rest of the responses are spot on.  Legacy only runs 
> on Windows, but you can run Windows on a Mac.  I use Fusion, which allows 
> Windows to run "virtually", meaning I can switch back and forth between the 
> Windows and Mac OS sides easily.  Also, as stated, though, you don't need to 
> buy a virtualization application, as Mac OS comes with Boot Camp, which will 
> allow you to run boot your Mac with Windows, acting as a PC.
>
> If you are not confident about your ability to install this software, you can 
> take it to an Apple store.
>
> As a reformed PC user, I think you'll enjoy the Mac generally, as it suffers 
> from few of the challenges Windows does.
>
> Keep in mind, though, that if you install Windows on the Mac while you are 
> running that operating system, you are suspectible to any Windows 
> issue--including viruses and the like--and thus should have adequate 
> protection installed.  Know, however, that any virus, trojan, etc. you might 
> contract on the Windows side will not effect the Mac OS side.
>
> As for Bob's print issue below, I'd say that is either local to his computer, 
> as my iMac is about the same age and I have no issues printing from either 
> side and have not needed to "intervene".  Bob--have you tried calling Apple 
> support to help with this issue?  I'm confident it shouldn't exist.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Robert Runion  wrote:
> Been running Legacy on my iMAC for about 3 years now and it can be done as 
> previously indicated via Parallels, Fusion or Bootcamp (comes on the iMAC) - 
> you do need to load Windows no matter which one you use. Using Bootcamp 
> operates your MAC as though it were a regular PC. The only drawback on the 
> Bootcamp is that you have to restart in either the MAC side or the Windows 
> side. Parallels and Fusion will let you run either - the only drawback I had 
> with both these is that the MAC needs you to intervene with the Printing 
> feature depending on which system you are printing from, and even that tends 
> not to work at times.  All the gurus in India were unable to resolve this 
> issue for me.  Bootcamp presents fewer problems that I have encountered.
>
> Bob
>
> On May 16, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Noddie wrote:
>
> > You would need to run something like Parallels which is what I do
> > myself.
> > Once setup it is quite easy to use, and Legacy can be run from there.
> > You can also drag an drop files from Parallels to Os if it is setup to
> > do so.
> > Cheers
> >
> > Gwen
> >
> > On 17/05/2011, at 10:06 AM, David C Abernathy wrote:
> >
> >> I think you must install Windows on your Mac and then you can use
> >> Legacy.
> >> There is a program on your Mac or you can add one that allows you to
> >> run Windows on it.
> >>
> >> You must buy a copy of windows to install it on your machine.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> David C Abernathy
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> >> Subject: [LegacyUG] New Mac
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Mac

[Robert Runion]

Been running Legacy on my iMAC for about 3 years now and it can be done as 
previously indicated via Parallels, Fusion or Bootcamp (comes on the iMAC) - 
you do need to load Windows no matter which one you use. Using Bootcamp 
operates your MAC as though it were a regular PC. The only drawback on the 
Bootcamp is that you have to restart in either the MAC side or the Windows 
side. Parallels and Fusion will let you run either - the only drawback I had 
with both these is that the MAC needs you to intervene with the Printing 
feature depending on which system you are printing from, and even that tends 
not to work at times.  All the gurus in India were unable to resolve this issue 
for me.  Bootcamp presents fewer problems that I have encountered.

Bob

On May 16, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Noddie wrote:

> You would need to run something like Parallels which is what I do
> myself.
> Once setup it is quite easy to use, and Legacy can be run from there.
> You can also drag an drop files from Parallels to Os if it is setup to
> do so.
> Cheers
>
> Gwen
>
> On 17/05/2011, at 10:06 AM, David C Abernathy wrote:
>
>> I think you must install Windows on your Mac and then you can use
>> Legacy.
>> There is a program on your Mac or you can add one that allows you to
>> run Windows on it.
>>
>> You must buy a copy of windows to install it on your machine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David C Abernathy
>> Email disclaimers
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>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:00 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] New Mac
>>
>> I purchased an iMac computer.  I have friends who use Legacy all the
>> time and say it is the best.  I am not computer savvy but am willing
>> to learn.  How do get Legacy on my computer.  Please be specific
>> with all procedures and which software versions I need.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs

[Robert Runion]

One item you might consider - if you were or planned to use the MRIN number for 
your filing system of hard copy (or scanned) data, the re-numbering would/might 
destroy the connection between the MRIN and the hard copy source files. 
Something to consider.

Bob

On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Jennifer Crockett wrote:

> Ron, we are talking about MRINs not RINs.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jennifer
> http://colston-wenck.com
>
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, 22 January 2011 8:05 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs
>
> Bruce,
>
> Since you mention changing RINs, one downside is that should you have a 
> Legacy based Pedigree Website the HTML file names are the same as the RINs eg 
> 81.html where “81” is the RIN. Hence anybody who has bookmarked a page may 
> well end up with a different individual. Not to mention the fact that the 
> Google Search Engine records will be incorrect for some time after the change.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> From: Bruce Jones
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:44 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs
>
> I renumbered many (most) of my MRINs some time ago for the reason you 
> mentioned and have not noticed any problems.
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Charles Apple  
> wrote:
> Hi Jennifer,
>
> Thanks for the additional discussion of this system. Since you have 
> re-numbered many of your MRINs, have you experienced any problems with 
> Phantom RINs, or Phantom MRINs, or any other type of problems?
>
> I have read the Help Files and Legacy User's Manual that explains how to do 
> this. I guess my greatest concern is there a downside to renumbering those 
> MRINs?
>
> Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:50 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs
> Hi Charles
>
> I use this system and had to re-number many of my MRINS. I may need to do 
> some of them again as it is a long time since I first did it and I recently 
> got a funeral notice for an aunt and found her MRIN was a huge number. Have a 
> look here for a good discussion on the system.
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/organization/mrin-filing-system/
>
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Startup Problem

[Robert Runion]

RON - The suggestion advanced didn't fix the problem, nor was Legacy Tech 
support able to assist.  They did suggest a Windows Restore and after some 
faltering steps, I was able to make the restoration and got rid of the error I 
encountered.  Thanks to all for the suggestions and moral support .  I'm sort 
of back in business, so onward ..


Bob


On Dec 2, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Bob,
>
> If the install.log file is missing then Legacy will not uninstall. I suggest
> that you copy your files and USR files to some safe place (you seem to do
> this anyhow) and do a full install from the Legacy website on top of your
> current installation ( i.e. don't uninstall first). Hopefully this will give
> you the install.log file. You can then uninstall and reinstall.
>
> I have seen reports which say that this does not always work!
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Runion
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:48 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Startup Problem
>
> Dennis - nothing that I recall.  I tried to uninstall Legacy, but the line
> is still in the Control Panel after the uninstall works its way.  Then if I
> click on the Legacy 7.4 again, which I have used since May 2010, it states
> that 'unable to find Install.log'.  I've installed and uninstalled a number
> of times, but th eline in the COntrol panel remains no matter what I have
> done. I tried to restore from backup, but keep getting the same warning
> about 'installing an unknown program'.
>
> I'm using Windows 7 as a Virtual Machine (Fusion)  on my iMAC and it has
> worked for over a year now without a problem. Your  question - 'Moving
> Legacy files around or renaming a folder?' - I do save my .fdb files to an
> external hard drive as well as a 'flash drive' I carry with me and sometimes
> rename 'Docs' before saving a new copy of 'Docs' - have not had any issues
> with that before.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:37:46 -0600, RUNION ROBERT 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For the past 3-4 days, every time I start Legacy, I get a 'Do you want to
>>> install this program from an  unknown source'. That program is
>>> 'Legacy.exe'.  If I answer 'yes', Legacy installs and the package works.
>>> But the next time I start, the same issue crops up.  I have downloaded
>>> 7.4 several times, and installed 'Legacy7setup.exe', but this
>>> 'Legacy.exe' question continues to plague me.  Any ideas of what is
>>> causing this?
>>
>> Anything else we should know? Windows version? Mac? Did you do anything
>> 3-4 days ago that might give a clue to this behavior? Like upgrading to
>> 7.4? Moving Legacy files around or renaming a folder?
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Startup Problem

[Robert Runion]

Dennis - nothing that I recall.  I tried to uninstall Legacy, but the line is 
still in the Control Panel after the uninstall works its way.  Then if I click 
on the Legacy 7.4 again, which I have used since May 2010, it states that 
'unable to find Install.log'.  I've installed and uninstalled a number of 
times, but th eline in the COntrol panel remains no matter what I have done. I 
tried to restore from backup, but keep getting the same warning about 
'installing an unknown program'.

 I'm using Windows 7 as a Virtual Machine (Fusion)  on my iMAC and it has 
worked for over a year now without a problem. Your  question - 'Moving Legacy 
files around or renaming a folder?' - I do save my .fdb files to an external 
hard drive as well as a 'flash drive' I carry with me and sometimes rename 
'Docs' before saving a new copy of 'Docs' - have not had any issues with that 
before.

Bob


On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:37:46 -0600, RUNION ROBERT 
> wrote:
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Correction

[Robert Runion]

My Event change involves adding a picture/digital file to the event - how could 
I do a Search and replace on that?


On Nov 14, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 14/11/2010 11:03, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>> If an event affects a number of people - say 50 - and if several
>> corrections to the event becomes necessary, is there a way to mass
>> change this event that affects all 50 people?  Or must one go to each
>> affected individual and make the changes?
>
> Rather depends in what way you want to change the Event.  Very often you
> can use Find and Replace which doesn't involve a lot of hassle.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Correction

[Robert Runion]

I thought about 'Search and Replace', but that feature lends itself to just one 
change at a time and I have mulitple pieces of data on a single 'event' I would 
like to change.  The original entry was shy, IN SOME CASES, 3+ items of data I 
wanted to add.  Do you know of a method to do so via the 'Search and Replace' 
feature.

Bob


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> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:03:34 -0600, RUNION ROBERT 
> wrote:
>
>> If an event affects a number of people - say 50 - and if several corrections 
>> to the event becomes necessary, is there a way to mass change this event 
>> that affects all 50 people?  Or must one go to each affected individual and 
>> make the changes?
>
> Have you tried "Search and Replace"?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digitized Files

[Robert Runion]

Thank you gentlemen for the information.  So what are the functions used for in 
the 'Edit Master Source Definition' if not for the addition of anything that 
can be identified as 'picture', 'sound'. 'video', or 'File'.   Can I access a 
.pdf or .txt digitized document through the 'file' feature and have it 
permanently attached to a Master Source whereby I can associate the Master 
Source and it's digitized 'file' with any individual's events?  My take on this 
is that a digitized file once added to the Master Source stays with the Master 
Source no matter what event I may want it to be associated with.  Am I not 
reading this properly? I have a lot of work ahead of me and wish to get it 
right up front.


On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

> First, the photo style doesn't matter. Each hard drive should have identical 
> photo files to maintain sameness. Under Master Source for either flavor 
> (basic or source writer) it has a place named pictures. It accepts all media. 
> The digitized file, for your case, needs to be added to both the 'edit master 
> source definition', and also to any event it belongs to, or anywhere a photo 
> icon exists.
> I have added some photos to over 20 people. Legacy only saves the address, 
> not 20 copies of the photo, just 20 people have the same photo address 
> attached to their photo screen.
> I hope this is clearer to you than the first note.
> Rich in LA CA
>
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Robert Runion  wrote:
>
>> From: Robert Runion 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digitized Files
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 4:31 PM
>> I knew this would be a chore to
>> explain, but will make another try. I shouldn't have
>> addressed the 'file carry' to another PC - it distracted
>> from what information I need. >
>> I have 700+ digitized files in a folder under 'Legacy
>> --> Data --> Detail Sources'.  Most files are
>> .pdf, but some are .jpg, .doc, .xls, etc., that I moved via
>> a 32 GB flash drive. The files are in a folder named the
>> same in PC #1 and PC #2. Can you explain how to take one
>> digitized file in 'Detail Sources' (say it is named '6100
>> Marriage Records, XYZ County, TN') and add it to the Master
>> Source, so that when I put a marriage event under Uncle Bob
>> and Aunt Tess, I can access the digitized file from the
>> event?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
>>
>>> Remember, in Legacy the program does not save photos,
>> etc., just addresses of them already on a hard drive. So if
>> you want the photo in multiple places, the space used is
>> only the address, not the photo, so adding to multiple
>> people/events/sources takes only the keystrokes/characters
>> of the address. Reading what you said, you did not add them
>> to your 'home PC', to a different one? If you carry the
>> directories with all the photos to the 'home PC', then when
>> after placed on the drive, Legacy will go looking for the
>> photos, and when you assist by finding a photo in a
>> subdirectory, it will look in the same subdirectroy to find
>> the companions. If 10 subdirectories, should take 10
>> lookups.
>>> Rich in LA CA
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Ron Ferguson 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Ron Ferguson 
>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digitized Files
>>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 2:32 PM
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> You say:
>>>>
>>>> I have scanned a lot of research files'/source
>> documents
>>>> into my PC - about
>>>> 700 of them - and would like to add these files as
>> a part
>>>> of the Master
>>>> Source.
>>>>
>>>> And later:
>>>>
>>>> I thought I had it figured out, but when I
>> returned the
>>>> file to my home PC,
>>>> the work I had done was lost or at least I was
>> unable to
>>>> see the added
>>>> digitized files.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying that you entered them in one
>> machine and
>>>> then put the file
>>>> into another. If so, what sort of file (extension)
>> and how
>>>> did you transfer
>>>> them, where were they on the first machine and
>> where are
>>>> they

Re: [LegacyUG] Digitized Files

[Robert Runion]

I knew this would be a chore to explain, but will make another try. I shouldn't 
have addressed the 'file carry' to another PC - it distracted from what 
information I need.

I have 700+ digitized files in a folder under 'Legacy --> Data --> Detail 
Sources'.  Most files are .pdf, but some are .jpg, .doc, .xls, etc., that I 
moved via a 32 GB flash drive. The files are in a folder named the same in PC 
#1 and PC #2. Can you explain how to take one digitized file in 'Detail 
Sources' (say it is named '6100 Marriage Records, XYZ County, TN') and add it 
to the Master Source, so that when I put a marriage event under Uncle Bob and 
Aunt Tess, I can access the digitized file from the event?

Bob


On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

> Remember, in Legacy the program does not save photos, etc., just addresses of 
> them already on a hard drive. So if you want the photo in multiple places, 
> the space used is only the address, not the photo, so adding to multiple 
> people/events/sources takes only the keystrokes/characters of the address. 
> Reading what you said, you did not add them to your 'home PC', to a different 
> one? If you carry the directories with all the photos to the 'home PC', then 
> when after placed on the drive, Legacy will go looking for the photos, and 
> when you assist by finding a photo in a subdirectory, it will look in the 
> same subdirectroy to find the companions. If 10 subdirectories, should take 
> 10 lookups.
> Rich in LA CA
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Ron Ferguson  wrote:
>
>> From: Ron Ferguson 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digitized Files
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 2:32 PM
>> Bob,
>>
>> You say:
>>
>> I have scanned a lot of research files'/source documents
>> into my PC - about
>> 700 of them - and would like to add these files as a part
>> of the Master
>> Source.
>>
>> And later:
>>
>> I thought I had it figured out, but when I returned the
>> file to my home PC,
>> the work I had done was lost or at least I was unable to
>> see the added
>> digitized files.
>>
>> Are you saying that you entered them in one machine and
>> then put the file
>> into another. If so, what sort of file (extension) and how
>> did you transfer
>> them, where were they on the first machine and where are
>> they now on the
>> second?
>>
>> If this is not what you mean please explain.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: RUNION ROBERT
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:22 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Digitized Files
>>
>> I have a problem and need some help that I am unable to
>> find in the Legacy
>> textbook or in the help files.  I have scanned a lot
>> of research
>> files'/source documents into my PC - about 700 of them -
>> and would like to
>> add these files tas a part of the Master Source.  If I
>> can do that, then
>> when adding the Master Source to a specific group of
>> persons, the digitized
>> file can be seen if one wants review the document.  My
>> concern is that in
>> adding the digitized file to a Master Source, how do you
>> add it  - as a
>> 'Picture' or 'Repository' (not sure about this part) or
>> other?  Also, when
>> setting up the 'Location' for these files, how do you
>> arrange this?   I've
>> been working around this for two weeks and still can't
>> figure it out. I
>> thought I had it figured out, but when I returned the file
>> to my home PC,
>> the work I had done was lost or at least I was unable to
>> see the added
>> digitized files.
>>
>> I know this request is vague, so perhaps someone who is
>> adding his/her
>> digitized files to a source could give me a step-by-step
>> procedure of how
>> you do this, or point me to a legacy site that discusses
>> it.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA

[Robert Runion]

Ron - Thanks - sorry my question wasn't as clear as I had hoped.  I was 
concentrating on changes to the Detail data for a picture and went awry in my 
thinking.  I neglected to consider the Master Source change you suggested.  
I've experimented with about a dozen Master List sources, changing them to add 
as a 'picture' the digitized source document, saved it,  selected 'change 
all'.  Worked like a charm and the others with this change now have the 
data I wanted. It precludes having to go to each person to make the change.  
Just altering a small part of the master source causes it to ask if you wan 
tall of the users data dahnged. Now to start over with one of my saved files 
rather than try to correct the ones I had already done. Lots of work ahead.

Thanks again.

Bob


On Oct 30, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> With respect, Bob, the question which you have now defined, is quite
> different from your original question.
>
> I don't think it is possible to add it globally to the Detailed Source, as
> these are designed to be personal, even though some/all of the details may
> be common to a number of individuals. However, if the Master Source is only
> used by that group of individuals you can add the image to the Master
> Source; View>Master Lists>Source>Edit.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Runion
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 4:38 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA
>
> Ron - I've tried a number of search and replace features, but am unable to
> do what I would like.  Suppose I have an event that involves 100 people, how
> can I add a digitized file to one of the persons as multimedia and change
> that event for all those in the group? I can add the multimedia item to a
> person's event, copy it and proceed to another of the 100 persons (using the
> RIN/MRIN obtained after preparing a report and looking for all those with
> the File ID), edit each of those RIN/MRIN's noted with that event and
> replace it.  I am unable to figure out how to do the search and replace that
> would do the same tihing for a group and seem to have to resort to accessing
> each RIN/MRIN in the package. Any suggestiosn?
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Have you look at Search>Search and Replace, and if you have, why didn't it
>> work for you?
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: RUNION ROBERT
>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:56 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice on adding a piece of data to an event that
>> affects multiple persons.  Is there any way to add a piece of data (i.e.,
>> a
>> correction if you will)  to an event that is already attached to say 100
>> persons, without having to visit each RIN/MRIN to add/correct the event?
>> Also, is there a way to assure oneself that all those 100 affected by the
>> change has been entered?  I have found that I have need to correct a lot
>> of
>> individual events and am seeking some advice that would permit a mass
>> change - if one is available. The method I'm using is so long, it would
>> bore
>> the reader, and I'm not sure how long the explanation would be - but I
>> hope
>> someone might have encountered this issue has a simpler solution.
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA

[Robert Runion]

Ron - I've tried a number of search and replace features, but am unable to do 
what I would like.  Suppose I have an event that involves 100 people, how can I 
add a digitized file to one of the persons as multimedia and change that event 
for all those in the group? I can add the multimedia item to a person's event, 
copy it and proceed to another of the 100 persons (using the RIN/MRIN obtained 
after preparing a report and looking for all those with the File ID), edit each 
of those RIN/MRIN's noted with that event and replace it.  I am unable to 
figure out how to do the search and replace that would do the same tihing for a 
group and seem to have to resort to accessing each RIN/MRIN in the package. Any 
suggestiosn?


On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Have you look at Search>Search and Replace, and if you have, why didn't it
> work for you?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RUNION ROBERT
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:56 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA
>
> I'm looking for some advice on adding a piece of data to an event that
> affects multiple persons.  Is there any way to add a piece of data (i.e., a
> correction if you will)  to an event that is already attached to say 100
> persons, without having to visit each RIN/MRIN to add/correct the event?
> Also, is there a way to assure oneself that all those 100 affected by the
> change has been entered?  I have found that I have need to correct a lot of
> individual events and am seeking some advice that would permit a mass
> change - if one is available. The method I'm using is so long, it would bore
> the reader, and I'm not sure how long the explanation would be - but I hope
> someone might have encountered this issue has a simpler solution.
>
> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA

[Robert Runion]

Humm  - I hadn't tried that, thanks for the heads-up.. I'll give it a try and 
see how it goes.


On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Have you look at Search>Search and Replace, and if you have, why didn't it
> work for you?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RUNION ROBERT
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:56 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] CORRECTING DATA
>
> I'm looking for some advice on adding a piece of data to an event that
> affects multiple persons.  Is there any way to add a piece of data (i.e., a
> correction if you will)  to an event that is already attached to say 100
> persons, without having to visit each RIN/MRIN to add/correct the event?
> Also, is there a way to assure oneself that all those 100 affected by the
> change has been entered?  I have found that I have need to correct a lot of
> individual events and am seeking some advice that would permit a mass
> change - if one is available. The method I'm using is so long, it would bore
> the reader, and I'm not sure how long the explanation would be - but I hope
> someone might have encountered this issue has a simpler solution.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy on Mac

[Robert Runion]

I run Legacy on my iMAC using VMware Fusion and Windows 7.  As noted earlier, 
all my stuff is in the Windows side of the system; however, there is a feature 
in Fusion that you might explore - Unity.  It is some sort of feature that 
allows crossfeed, but I have no idea how it works.  You might try talkign to 
the VMware techies.  I had it working one day, but it got in the way of doing 
genealogy and I haven't revisited it.

Bob
On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:

> I am using Legacy 7.4.0.45 right now on my macbook with Parallels version 6 
> and thousands of multimedia files attached.  Works well.  Mac OS 10.4.6 can 
> see the pictures files as well.  May not be possible with other VM products 
> but Parallels does work both ways.
> Ron Taylor
>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/29/10, David Hook  wrote:
>
>> From: David Hook 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy on Mac
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 8:28 PM
>>
>> Vickie:
>>
>> I don't believe that you can do this. It's a Windows issue,
>> I've been told. Mac operating systems can read
>> windows-formatted drives, but Windows operating systems
>> aren't able to recognize Mac-formatted drives.  So if
>> you are using parallels, or boot camp (or whatever) when you
>> are using the Mac OS, you can see both sides of the
>> partition, but when using the Windows OS you can only see
>> the Windows side.
>>
>> So, if you are running Legacy, you need to be using the
>> Windows OS, so the best solution is to keep all of your
>> genealogy files on the Windows side of the partition so that
>> you can access them from other side.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2010-10-29, at 9:57 PM, Vickie Prows wrote:
>>
>>> Finally got Legacy to work on my new Mac inside
>> Windows 7 with VMFusion, but
>>> don't know how to connect with my Multimedia which
>> resides on the Mac side of
>>> the computer.  Any hints?
>>>
>>> I'd love to see a User Group for Mac people.  We
>> have our own set of
>>> problems..
>>>
>>> Vickie
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] REMINDER!

[Robert Runion]

With all the HTML advisory messages, can someone in Tech Support tell me how to 
recognize that I am sending in Text or HTML and how to change it if HTMl is 
involved?

Bob

On Oct 26, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:

> It's not just HTML messages from Gmail..
>
> To quote from the Legacy User Group guidelines:
>
> Please only send messages in plain text format, because:
>
> 1. HTML format messages require more server space for archiving than
> plain text messages.
> 2. HTML messages can hide viruses.
> 3. HTML messages will increase a message's Spam rating by Spam
> blocking software.
> 4. It takes longer for persons with dial-up connections to download
> HTML messages.
> 5. Some older e-mail readers display HTML messages by including
> hypertext code, which makes them hard to read.
> 6. Some people with visual impairment may have difficulty reading
> messages with colored text or tinted backgrounds.
>
> For help with sending in messages in plain text format, please visit
> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/listadmins/plaintext.html.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:26 AM, marilyn E B  wrote:
>> Can someone explain why the HTML in gmail is so offensive? It will go
>> through on Roots Web lists and there are no complaints.
>
>
>> Marilyn
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows 7

[Robert Runion]

I run Legacy on Windows 7 via VMWare Fusion on my iMAC.  A pretty good 
solution, albeit a bit cumbersome at times.

Bob

On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Derek Cuthbert wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of running Legacy 7 under Windows & Starter?
> Derek Cuthbert
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Sources Added to Legacy

[Robert Runion]

Now Now Boys!


On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:04 AM, Mike Fry wrote:

> On 2010/10/25 00:39, Ron Bernier wrote:
>
>> Ellen,
>>
>> List rules require that all messages be sent to the list in plain text.  
>> Please
>> show courtesy to the other subscribers on this list and turn off the HTML 
>> mail.
>>
>
> Ron,
>
> You might do well to follow your own request :-)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] My Plight!!!

[Robert Runion]

Don - A great reminder - the 'delete' button gets a lot of activity at my house.

On Oct 24, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Donald McRoberts wrote:

> Folks – as has been indicated by many others, this is a SCAM. PLEASE don’t 
> respond to these kinds of messages. Doing so only perpetuates the scam 
> further. The best thing to do is to simply DELETE the message and ignore them.
>
>
> 73 de W3DRM – Don McRoberts
> Carson Valley Weather: http://carsonvalleyweather.com
> The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved
>
> From: Colin Liddell [mailto:cap...@optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 4:49 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] My Plight!!!
>
> This is a scam!!!
> - Original Message -
> From: Hugh Busey
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 2:13 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] My Plight!!!
>
> I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came down here to 
> London, United Kingdom for a short vacation.unfortunately,we were mugged at 
> the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were stolen 
> off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with us.
>
> We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues 
> at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems 
> settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we 
> settle the bills. Well I really need your financially assistance..Please, let 
> me know if you can help us out?
>
>Am freaked out at the moment!!
>
>Hugh.
>
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> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 10.0.1144 / Virus Database: 422/3216 - Release Date: 10/24/10
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Sources Added to Legacy

[Robert Runion]

Excellent idea

On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:27 AM, atlant...@aol.com wrote:

> In addition to 'c:\Legacy\Data\Pictures' , I use the following subdirectories:
>
> DOCS - for scans of documents.
> FORMS - for PDF forms that I have created such as family group sheets. When I 
> get them back the go in here.
> MULTIMEDIA - videos, mainly of interviews
> NOTES - Documents that do not fit neatly into another category. Usually my 
> own writing such as transcripts of interviews and conversations.
> RESOURCES - Digital copies of books, etc.
> SCANS - Initial repository of any scan before I photoshop it (if necessary). 
> Documents in here are waiting for their final resting place somewhere else.
>
> Under PICTURES I have subdirectories for picture collections acquired from 
> other people. (I have cousins who have been researching their branch of the 
> family for a lot longer than I have.)
>
> - Jack
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Runion 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Sun, Oct 24, 2010 8:40 am
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Sources Added to Legacy
>
> One of the earlier messages alluded to the fact that his ‘paper’ sources were 
> no
> longer being kept but had been incorporated into the Legacy system as digital
> entries. I have 1000+ paper sources in 18 large notebooks that take’s up an
> awful lot of space. I also have all of these sources scanned and have added 
> them
> my PC in two digital folders entitled ‘MASTER’ and ‘DETAIL’. These digital
> sources have been scanned into folders, and/or copy/paste actions taken, and
> contain ‘.doc’, ‘.pdf’,  ‘.jpg’, ‘.bmp’,  ‘.tiff’, etc. At present these
> 'MASTER' and 'DETAIL' files are located under  'c:\Legacy\Data\Master'  and
> 'c:\Legacy\Data\Detail', so I already have them digitized there for viewing 
> and
> other needs.
>
> I have been contemplating going the digital route for all these sources and
> adding them to the Legacy program.  Much as a picture is added for a specific
> person, the 'file' could be added also. Could the author elaborate on the 
> ’how’
> he did it or the recommended method of doing so, or perhaps point me to a site
> that discusses this process?  I’m looking for a recommended method., including
> some pitfalls I should be aware of in doing such a large task.
>
> In the case of pictures, I have 2500+ in a digital file in 
> 'c:\Legacy\Data\Pictures'
> that works as the manual states.  Would the system work equally well by adding
> the digital source 'file' as a separate entry into the 'pictures'? I could see
> where such an addition could get pretty unweildy over time if each source was
> added to all the people it addresses.  For example, I have one book I use as a
> reference for some hundreds of people and adding the source to each party as a
> part of the picture gallery could get pretty wild.  Anyway, I'm seeking some
> suggestions and guidance on the feasibility or adviseability of such a 
> project.
>
> Bob
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Sources Added to Legacy

[Robert Runion]

I have been experimenting this morning with my question earlier.  I have 
discovered that there are two places that the digitized file can be stored in 
an individuals record - one is in the picture gallery and the second is in the 
Multimedia file in the event entry.  I also discovered that the digitized files 
work just as the photos do - each event reference is only to the digitized file 
when viewed, so that a complete data entry is not replicated for each person. 
When the copy/paste item is used to capture the data from one person and enter 
it in the next, the event carries with it the multimedia entry from the 
original. With this method, it appears that one can view the multimedia item 
under any person that an event has been copied to by clicking on the event and 
then the 'source' icon' at the top of the screen which will lead you to the 
screen where you can click on the 'picture' and view the item added from the 
didital source. It also appears that if adding a file via the picture gallery 
directly, that it would necessitate adding it to each person in the source.  
So, it appears that the multimedia might be the better method enter the data.

Maybe this is 'old hat' to some, but it was a revelation to me this morning and 
I now wonder why I didn't investigate it earlier in my research.  There must be 
other mahjor topics along this line that I haven't investigated - much to my 
chagrin. Live and learn.

Bob




On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

> I digitize everything too so I am interested in this response. I
> digitized books too. While I have a  2T drive I  don't think adding a
> book or other massive document is appropriate for every source. Things
> would bog down. A master source system with appropriate references
> seems wiser.
>
> You might want to look at Dick Eastman's remarks on digitizing and the
> link in this post:
> http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/10/preserving-your-family-history-records-digitally.html
>
> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Robert Runion 
> wrote:> One of the earlier messages alluded to the fact that his
> ‘paper’ sources were no longer being kept but had been incorporated
> into the Legacy system as digital entries. I have 1000+ paper sources
> in 18 large notebooks that take’s up an awful lot of space. I also
> have all of these sources scanned and have added them my PC in two
> digital folders entitled ‘MASTER’ and ‘DETAIL’. These digital sources
> have been scanned into folders, and/or copy/paste actions taken, and
> contain ‘.doc’, ‘.pdf’,  ‘.jpg’, ‘.bmp’,  ‘.tiff’, etc. At present
> these 'MASTER' and 'DETAIL' files are located under
> 'c:\Legacy\Data\Master'  and 'c:\Legacy\Data\Detail', so I already
> have them digitized there for viewing and other needs.
>>
>> I have been contemplating going the digital route for all these sources and 
>> adding them to the Legacy program.  Much as a picture is added for a 
>> specific person, the 'file' could be added also. Could the author elaborate 
>> on the ’how’ he did it or the recommended method of doing so, or perhaps 
>> point me to a site that discusses this process?  I’m looking for a 
>> recommended method., including some pitfalls I should be aware of in doing 
>> such a large task.
>>
>> In the case of pictures, I have 2500+ in a digital file in 
>> 'c:\Legacy\Data\Pictures' that works as the manual states.  Would the system 
>> work equally well by adding the digital source 'file' as a separate entry 
>> into the 'pictures'? I could see where such an addition could get pretty 
>> unweildy over time if each source was added to all the people it addresses.  
>> For example, I have one book I use as a reference for some hundreds of 
>> people and adding the source to each party as a part of the picture gallery 
>> could get pretty wild.  Anyway, I'm seeking some suggestions and guidance on 
>> the feasibility or adviseability of such a project.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
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[LegacyUG] Digital Sources Added to Legacy

[Robert Runion]

One of the earlier messages alluded to the fact that his ‘paper’ sources were 
no longer being kept but had been incorporated into the Legacy system as 
digital entries. I have 1000+ paper sources in 18 large notebooks that take’s 
up an awful lot of space. I also have all of these sources scanned and have 
added them my PC in two digital folders entitled ‘MASTER’ and ‘DETAIL’. These 
digital sources have been scanned into folders, and/or copy/paste actions 
taken, and contain ‘.doc’, ‘.pdf’,  ‘.jpg’, ‘.bmp’,  ‘.tiff’, etc. At present 
these 'MASTER' and 'DETAIL' files are located under  'c:\Legacy\Data\Master'  
and 'c:\Legacy\Data\Detail', so I already have them digitized there for viewing 
and other needs.

I have been contemplating going the digital route for all these sources and 
adding them to the Legacy program.  Much as a picture is added for a specific 
person, the 'file' could be added also. Could the author elaborate on the ’how’ 
he did it or the recommended method of doing so, or perhaps point me to a site 
that discusses this process?  I’m looking for a recommended method., including 
some pitfalls I should be aware of in doing such a large task.

In the case of pictures, I have 2500+ in a digital file in 
'c:\Legacy\Data\Pictures' that works as the manual states.  Would the system 
work equally well by adding the digital source 'file' as a separate entry into 
the 'pictures'? I could see where such an addition could get pretty unweildy 
over time if each source was added to all the people it addresses.  For 
example, I have one book I use as a reference for some hundreds of people and 
adding the source to each party as a part of the picture gallery could get 
pretty wild.  Anyway, I'm seeking some suggestions and guidance on the 
feasibility or adviseability of such a project.

Bob


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Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

[Robert Runion]

If each of your separate surname files are in Legacy, there is the 'file -->  
import from' feature that would permit you to combine them.  The issue then is 
to merge all the duplicates you may have created. If you have the same person 
with different spellings of the name that could create a situation of manually 
merging those persons - very labor intensive if you have 20K people in file.

When I brought my FTM files over to LEgacy some years ago, I reduced each 
separate file to a GEDCOM, and then imported each of the GEDCOM into one LEgacy 
file.  Took a lot of work and I'm still correcting stuff.

Bob


On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Carol Costa wrote:

> I have about 20,000 in my file.  I’m getting worried about that too.  I just 
> can’t seem to stop adding people.  Help me…….
>
> From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell [mailto:jccord...@att.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:30 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] how big?
>
> Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I originally 
> started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file and just skipping 
> all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them up and naming the Legacy 
> file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I did it to make things easier but 
> I this might be a mistake. How does average Legacy user do it? Do they keep 
> several lines in one file? My last name is Cordell so it was also weird to 
> name the file cordell.fdb when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's 
> the norm? Thanks.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

[Robert Runion]

Ron - thanks for the explanation - and yes, I want to do convert Detail 
sourcing data to Master source data which you indicate is not feasible.  The 
only reason I want to convert the data is that I use an iMAC and Legacy does 
not have a MAC version. I have been so advised that it never will - pity .

In order to convert to the iMAC program I want to use - REUNION - it does not 
recognize detail files and I am having to convert details for some 20,000 
individuals to get the package to recognize the master source data only. I love 
Legacy, but to use it with a MAC is pretty cumbersome - installation of VMware 
on a virtual machine to use Windows, etc., creates printer problems, program 
redundancies, etc.

Bob


On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:42 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Firstly may I say that I do not understand what you are trying to do to, or
> at least why you are trying to do it. A fileID is something which is
> individual to a specific file. In the case of the Detail FileID it is used
> by most to reference the paper copies of the files to which the Source
> Detail refer. Personally I don't keep many paper files, so I don't use it.
>
> You say that, "For example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01
> and would like to convert this to a Master Source numbered . " what does
> this mean - that you wish co convert detail source into Master Sources. If
> so the answer is that it cannot be done automatically as you are trying to
> convert apples into pears. What Search and Replace means  is replacing alpha
> numeric data with new or alpha numeric data (or for some ASCI characters).
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> --
> From: "Robert Runion" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:22 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
>
>> Ron - your suggestion intrigues me.  I am in the throes of trying to
>> change a lot of my 'detail' data' to make it 'master source' data.  For
>> example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 and would like to
>> convert this to a Master Source numbered .  Is there a way to use the
>> 'searcdh>search and replace' feature you indicate? The options noted there
>> do not seem to be the ones I need.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> Jean,
>>>
>>> You can go to Search>Search and Replace and then use the appropriate
>>> citation to make a global correction.
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jean Suplick
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:42 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
>>>
>>>
>>> This has greatly influenced my approach on how to record infomation also.
>>> If
>>> you copy/paste a clipboard source to 5 events for each of 5 individuals,
>>> you
>>> have 25 records in the database now. Fixing a typo or adding some
>>> additional
>>> information becomes a huge task. You have to go to each event for each
>>> individual and change the source detail.
>>>
>>> The best way to reduce this extra work, of course, is to get the source
>>> right the first time, and that requires discipline. However, for those
>>> who
>>> are evolving their sourcing skills or who are new to Legacy, revisiting
>>> sources and making updates is a way of life. I wish there was an easier
>>> way
>>> to make updates of this nature. I wish the Legacy developers could come
>>> up
>>> with a way to make this easier.
>>>
>>> Jean Suplick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Dick Nixon  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm coming in late on this thread, but we've all struggled with how to
>>> use the source detail and clipboards.
>>>
>>> It is easy to copy the MSource and Detail to multiple people, BUT,
>>> once you do, the details all become separate "items" in the data
>>> base...there is no way to edit them all at once if you make even a
>>> typo. A lot of work hunting down the individual details and no one
>>> place to see where they were used. This has greatly  influenced how I
>>> record the census and other info., and how I approach
>>> splitting/lumping.   Eg., I put the census info. in an event.
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

[Robert Runion]

Ron - your suggestion intrigues me.  I am in the throes of trying to change a 
lot of my 'detail' data' to make it 'master source' data.  For example, I have 
say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 and would like to convert this to a 
Master Source numbered .  Is there a way to use the 'searcdh>search and 
replace' feature you indicate? The options noted there do not seem to be the 
ones I need.

Bob


On Oct 16, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Jean,
>
> You can go to Search>Search and Replace and then use the appropriate
> citation to make a global correction.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
>
> From: Jean Suplick
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:42 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
>
>
> This has greatly influenced my approach on how to record infomation also. If
> you copy/paste a clipboard source to 5 events for each of 5 individuals, you
> have 25 records in the database now. Fixing a typo or adding some additional
> information becomes a huge task. You have to go to each event for each
> individual and change the source detail.
>
> The best way to reduce this extra work, of course, is to get the source
> right the first time, and that requires discipline. However, for those who
> are evolving their sourcing skills or who are new to Legacy, revisiting
> sources and making updates is a way of life. I wish there was an easier way
> to make updates of this nature. I wish the Legacy developers could come up
> with a way to make this easier.
>
> Jean Suplick
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Dick Nixon  wrote:
>
> I'm coming in late on this thread, but we've all struggled with how to
> use the source detail and clipboards.
>
> It is easy to copy the MSource and Detail to multiple people, BUT,
> once you do, the details all become separate "items" in the data
> base...there is no way to edit them all at once if you make even a
> typo. A lot of work hunting down the individual details and no one
> place to see where they were used. This has greatly  influenced how I
> record the census and other info., and how I approach
> splitting/lumping.   Eg., I put the census info. in an event.
>
> Dick
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

[Robert Runion]

I suggest one file also.  Years ago, I tried to split the file into major 
surnames, but discovered that the changes in spelling of a surname over the 
years really complicated having more than one file.  Keep plenty of backup 
files.

Bob

On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:00 AM, BMcL Robinson wrote:

> Hi Jonathon and Charity
>
> I suggest only one file. You can get very messy trying to split data on the 
> points where the groups join (eg between yourself and spouse - how do you do 
> the children etc?), and given that intermarriage can become more common once 
> you go back say 8 generations there could be other overlapping points. I use 
> one file, although not large by some standards (about 6,000).
>
> Cheers, Brett
> BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand
> - Original Message -
> From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:30 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] how big?
>
> Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I originally 
> started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file and just skipping 
> all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them up and naming the Legacy 
> file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I did it to make things easier but 
> I this might be a mistake. How does average Legacy user do it? Do they keep 
> several lines in one file? My last name is Cordell so it was also weird to 
> name the file cordell.fdb when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's 
> the norm? Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy - #1 ranking at Download.com

[Robert Runion]

Geoff - the site requires more 'sign up' requirements than I wish - so I am 
unable to write a review.

Bob

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> Browsing the Download.com site, I just noticed that Legacy is #1 in
> Genealogy Software with over 110,000 downloads since we published it there
> in June. Go Legacy!
>
> Towards the bottom of the page is a red "Write Review" button. If you're
> wondering how to spend the next 5 or so minutes you could write a review. :)
>
> Anyways, the link is at
> http://download.cnet.com/Legacy-Family-Tree/3000-2127_4-10260915.html.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

[Robert Runion]

Kirsten's explanation was very interesting - I tried it on a few - adding, then 
previewing and then removing - just to see how it would work.  It would be a 
lot of additional work for me at this time, but it is something to consider.  I 
had not used the method before, but can see that it is useful.  Thanks Kirsten 
for sharing. Now if there is a way to incorporate it into changes via Access or 
LTools. :-)

Bob

On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:20 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:

> Elizabeth:
>
> As has already been noted, there are two different clipboards--one for 
> Sources and one for Events.  I find the Source Clipboard a tremendous 
> timesaver and absolutely invaluable.  Here's how I use it for census records:
>
> First you create a Master Source.  This would include at least the year and 
> country.  The benefits of the Master Source arrangement are to (1) reduce 
> repetitive typing, (2) group sources into a sensible structure to fit your 
> needs.From there you get into the "splitting vs lumping" discussion which 
> is heavily covered in the list archives.  I include state/province and county 
> in my Master Source so I can see all the individuals who lived in a certain 
> county in a given year.  This produces a fairly long Master Source list (mine 
> has just over 500 Master Sources for roughly 10,000 individuals) others 
> prefer to have fewer Master Sources and so they may not identify separate 
> states/provinces at the Master Source level.
>
> Next you go to the Individual's Information screen and click on the blue "Up" 
> arrow on the left to open the Source Clipboard.  Clear it by clicking on the 
> appropriate button at the bottom of the screen.  Then click on the Step 1 
> link at the top of the same screen and select the census Master Source that 
> you want to use.  Fill in the Detail Information fields on the Clipboard.  
> Next I click on the Text/Comments tab and transcribe all the details from the 
> census listing for all family members.  Click on Save to return to the 
> Individual's Information screen.
>
> Then the fun begins!  Put your cursor in any field (usually name and 
> date/place of birth) and click the "-" sign below the Up arrow.  The Source 
> Citation will be attached to each field as you go.  If the census listing is 
> evidence of a relationship, I attach it to those fields too by clicking on 
> the Add ir Edit Source Citations screen and scrolling down to Relationship to 
> Father, Relationship to Mother.  Do the same thing for each person in the 
> census listing.  If you find later that you've accidentally missed a field 
> it's easy to copy the Source Citation from a family member back onto the 
> Source Clipboard and attach it to the missed field.
>
> I strongly recommend experimenting with a census source, attaching it to a 
> few fields, and then checking the report you use most often in order to see 
> the result.  Note that the citation will print only once in the report even 
> if you've attached it to several fields for different individuals.  If you 
> make a change to a citation, however, even something as small as adding a 
> blank space, it will appear as a different source.  It's important to 
> proofread your data in the Output Preview before you begin attaching it to 
> multiple fields because going back to delete and then add a corrected version 
> is something of a pain.
>
> Once you get used to using it, I think you'll find the Source Clipboard one 
> of the best features in Legacy.
>
> Kirsten
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: E. Wolfe [mailto:e20...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
>
>
> Could someone explain step-by-step how the Clipboard works? I've looked at 
> the archives, and I've tried to use it but it seems sooo frustrating and not 
> time-saving at all to me. Yet I see where others use it all the time and like 
> it. I just don't get "what" I am supposed to put in it and "how" to get that 
> info into other places.
>
> Could someone give me an example of doing a census record for every person in 
> a family, for instance?
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

[Robert Runion]

The videos explain the process pretty well; however my Legacy Version 7.4 
Deluxe shows the items I mentioned:

(1) Hover/Click/Open the 'show events for this person' icon on a person (5th 
box from left under the individual);
(2) Once opened,you can 'add', 'edit', etc. -  After you enter all the data, 
the data entered for a  person will be available when you start to exit by 
selecting/clicking on the left box (looks like two sheets of paper) - if you 
hover over it, it will state 'Copy Event to Clipboard' - click on that box to 
capture the data and then click on 'save' to exit that person;
(3) Go to next person you want to 'add' the data to, and select 'ADD', when the 
screen appears, click on the RH box - if you hover over it, it will state 
'Paste event from Clipboard' and voila!  you have added all the data from 
person 1 to person 2.
(4) works the same way with 'edit' - a great way to enter repetitive data from 
one person to another and keeps us from having to re-type each event.

If further help is desired, e-mail me off-line at s...@cox.net

Bob


On Oct 12, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Randy Clark wrote:

> The two boxes are just pictures (unless you hover). And we're on the add 
> event screen.
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:05 PM,  wrote:
> I've been watching for replies to Elizabeth's query as I've never used
> the clipboard either. Forget videos, I get lost in them - can't keep up
> with each screen and being deaf, can't hear the instructions.
>
> So I welcomed Bob's explanation and tried it out. He said "Just before
> the last save on a data entry event, there are two boxes in the lower RH
> corner". Not in my version (the latest). The last screen before saving says
> Tag and Verified on the right, Excl. from Reports in the middle, and
> Combine Highlighted Source with Another in List on the right.
>
> What does this left box say? and what is the title of the window where
> it appears?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

[Robert Runion]

Just before the last save on a data entry event, there are two boxes in the 
lower RH corner, clicking on the left one retains the data you just entered.  
Then when you go to another person, open event, select 'add' and then click on 
the RH box.  The data from step 1 is entered into the person as an event 
identical to the step 1 person.
Bob

On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:19 PM, E. Wolfe wrote:

> Could someone explain step-by-step how the Clipboard works? I've looked at 
> the archives, and I've tried to use it but it seems sooo frustrating and not 
> time-saving at all to me. Yet I see where others use it all the time and like 
> it. I just don't get "what" I am supposed to put in it and "how" to get that 
> info into other places.
>
> Could someone give me an example of doing a census record for every person in 
> a family, for instance?
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on a Macbook

[Robert Runion]

I run Legacy through Windows 7 on my iMAC using Fusion VMWare and it works just 
fine.  Took me a bit to get it going, but I have it running just fine now.

Bob

On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Dwain Rosenberger wrote:

> VMware Fusion - http://www.vmware.com/
>
> Dwain C. Rosenberger - (dcrose...@gmail.com)
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>
>
>
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>> Legacy--Parallels 5 or Bootcamp? Other suggestions? Thanks
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] FileID use

[Robert Runion]

I still rely on the assignment of a Master File ID number  - in my case I use a 
4-digit 9000 series numbering system for that purpose - so far I've got a 
little over 300 Master source documents for large research sources.  If the 
Master source also applies to multiple persons, I then assign an MRIN + number 
(i/e., 1234-nn) as a Source Detail FileID for each event entry if deemed 
necessary. Thus I can find my original data document either by the Master 
Number or the MRIN-nn numbers assigned to the events.  So far it allows me find 
my hard copy sources for the entries I have made fairly easily.  It was a bit 
of a chore to set up initially, but it worked and I now have my sources in 
3-ring binders that are filed by the Master and/or MRIN+nnn format. This was a 
method suggested and encountered when I first started Legacy and it seems 
reliable and effective.  The Master ID number and/or MRIN + Detail File ID can 
be used for any event entry for any purpose. It is especially useful if making 
or viewing data and changes via the Access methodology I learned from other 
Legacy afficianados. The assignment of numbers (i.e, 9050 for Master and 
1234-33 for Detail FileID) permits standardization and sorting more consistent. 
After viewing a lot of methods, this one made sense to me - but if another 
works for other folks, so much the better.  Whatever works for one may not 
suffice for others and none are incorrect. Thanks for allowing my 2-cents input.

Now would someone suggest what to do with all this backup hard copy paperwork?  
At my age, I need to decide on what to do with the research - the three inch 
3-ring binders now number 18 for sources and 4 binders of a book print.  I've 
talked to some libraries and some are receptive and others not so receptive.  I 
have all sources digitized in addition to the hard copy and probably will leave 
a disc or flash drive with the master printed book at some point and let the 
heirs decide.

Bob


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> I enter my document numbers in both fields. I haven't found a specific use for
> them just yet but I hate to leave the fields blank and then decide I could 
> have
> used them after all. I use Clooz in addition to Legacy so I know where the
> documents are physically located and which people are named in the document.
> It's double-entry but the little bit of extra work makes me take a really good
> look at the information in the documents. Plus it keeps me organized.
>
> Terri Brown
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Rose Hatten 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 8:02:40 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] FileID use
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> Hello all,
>
> I am currently using the Source Detail multimedia FileID to enter my paper
> filing reference.  My method would have me enter this: Surname/2 letter
> document source(e.g., OB for obit)/serial number.  It would look like
> this: Johnson/OB/008. Then when I file the document, I enter that on the
> paper and file it by surname.  Most of my multimedia files are scans of
> documents rather than pictures of people or places.
>
> I realize there are many other methods for filing papers, and at this point
> do not wish to change to another paper filing system.  But I am wondering
> if anyone has found a different (maybe better) way to make use of the
> FileIDs that are attached to the Source Detail multimedia files.  Or do
> you find the FileID useful at all?
>
> It would seem useful to get the information into the JPG file, so I can
> always associate the person and the source document.  That seems
> particularly useful when the source is associated with several people.
>
> I'm not sure if I am going around in circles on this, and I'd love to hear
> other ideas on it.
>
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> in Maryland
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file on a Kindle or other tablet device?

[Robert Runion]

I'm interested in the Families program under discussion for use with an iPAD 
(planning on buying one, but need APP info). Can you direct me to a site that 
provides information on it?  I did a few researches but could not come up with 
a web site to explain the program and its features? Is it available from the 
Apple Store?


Bob

On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Dwain Rosenberger wrote:

> Marilyn, as Leon pointed out Families works on the iPad, iPhone plus the iPod 
> touch.  I use it on the iPad and for doing research away from my home PC, it 
> provides you with the ability to add/change/revise information in the field.  
> It also provides all the information in your PC database, such as 
> pictures/events/notes/sources, plus all the normal family information you 
> have entered.
>
> You can also add any new information you find during your research, including 
> photo's/scan's etc., that you have available on the device.
>
> This app was written for Legacy, so anyone using Legacy will have no 
> problem's interfacing with Families. It's a 5-Star app for Legacy users.
>
> Dwain C. Rosenberger - (dcrose...@gmail.com)
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Leon Chapman  wrote:
> Marilyn:
>
> Families will run on an iPad and iPhone.  I have it running on my iPhone and 
> have an iPad also.
> I also have GedView, FamViewer, and Tree-to-Go on my iPhone and iPad.
>
> Families allows you to edit the file on the iPhone/iPad and then transfer 
> (write a new Legacy file) back to your computer.  Families is the best one to 
> work directly with Legacy files to include pictures and all events.
>
> The others mostly transfer a GEDCom file to the iPhone app and then you can 
> view the information and see a tree or report.  The screens are too small on 
> the iPhone to be of much use when viewing, but you do have all of your 
> genealogy information at your finger tips.
>
> The Tree-to-Go works directly on-line with your family tree information on 
> Ancestry.com and allows editing your information on the web site.
>
> For Legacy users, the Families App is the best one to work with.
>
> Keep in mind that all of these apps lack many of the features you have come 
> to expect on your desktop Legacy software, but they are very useful and I 
> would highly recommend all of them.  GedView is probably my 2nd choice for an 
> app on the iPhone/iPad.
>
> Good luck.
>
> ___
> Leon Chapman
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> -
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>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Marilyn Clark  
> wrote:
> I, too, would like to know. I'm thinking about the iPad, and see that Legacy 
> can be imported into another App for the iPad called "Families." Has anyone 
> actually used this? Is it similar enough to Legacy to be pretty intuitive? I 
> don't want to learn another genealogy program...
>
> Marilyn
>
> --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Dee Ziegler  wrote:
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> From: Dee Ziegler 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy file on a Kindle or other tablet device?
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Cc: dee.zieg...@gmail.com
> Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:14 PM
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> Hello to the group. I understand that I can use my Legacy file on a
> small device like an iPhone. Screen's too small for my purpose.
>
> Is there a way to use it on a Kindle or other electronic tablet device?
>
> Thanks. Dolly (not quite a technodunce, but close) in Maryland USA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group reputation

[Robert Runion]

I too have encountered some folks who have been less than cordial, but there 
are too many who have helped me over the years to let that deter me.  Answering 
them only perpetuates the concept that when you get to arguing with a fool, it 
may become difficult to tell which is which.  Don't let a few grumpy ones keep 
you from using this wonderful research assistance, the good outweighs the bad.

Bob


On Jun 26, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Phil Ellis wrote:

> I agree. The welcome given to newcomers is enough to send them immediately
> away. I have recently moved from FTM to Legacy but my wife refuses to
> because of what we have read on this forum.
>
> Phil Ellis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Deborah Trounstine [mailto:dtrounst...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group reputation
>
> Hi Charles - I appreciate your comments about the LUG as a whole. I have
> to say though, that I was shut down rather rudely in the past by a
> know-it-all on this list and just decided to quit commenting at all. A
> lot of what goes on here is ridiculous and a waste of time. Offering a
> helpful suggestion or opinion about how to solve a problem - sometimes
> after a great deal of thought and careful writing - is more likely than
> not to be hijacked by somebody who just wants to be the resident expert.
> There would have to be a really compelling reason for me to participate
> in this list anymore and, at the moment, I can't think of one.
> Too bad.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestors Report Help - current build 7.4.0.39

[Robert Runion]

Brian - Attempting to join 
'http://mail.legacyusers.com/public/optin.aspx?id=c9962cc5b67a4294bba37bccc30
b976b&ml=3&domain=LegacyUsers.com' but keep getting 404 error code.  Any 
suggestions?


On May 29, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Brian/Support wrote:

> I do not think that is possible. The married someone is there because of
> a missing spouse.
>
> You could make a suggestion that the report be changed to use blanks for
> missing spouses on our suggestion page. You can access that using the
> make a suggestion on the Legacy Home tab.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
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> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
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> On 28/05/2010 6:59 PM, Lincoln Mulkey wrote:
>> When creating an Ancestor Book Report (with Insert Underlines for Missing
>> Given and Surnames checked), how can the wording be changed from "Mary Smith
>> married someone" to "Mary Smith married  __   "
>>
>> I searched the archives but no luck.
>>
>> Thank you for any help.
>>
>> Lincoln Mulkey
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Re: [LegacyUG] Interesting Problem

[Robert Runion]

Also, the Kodak printer I use prints the entire selection, then asks for the 
package to be turned 180 degrees and it then prints the rest of the pages in 
order.  Might be something like that...

On May 29, 2010, at 7:18 AM, Donald Brown wrote:

> Allen
> In the report options > page set up there is a section for setting duplexing.
>
> Don Brown
> Orangeville, Ontario
> Canada
>
> From: Allen Prunty [mailto:al...@alprunty.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 4:00 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Interesting Problem
>
> I just purchased a Kodak 7250 printer… and it has a duplexing option.  It 
> works on every software out there but legacy.  When I try to print a report 
> with legacy it will kick out one blank paper then one page and another blank 
> page and another page.
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> Kodak said it’s Legacy’s issue.
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> What’s up?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Citation Questions...

[Robert Runion]

Welcome to the crowd - I too have spent the better part of the past 1-2 years 
correcting and changing records.  Its been a long hard road, but I'm beginning 
to see some organization to my files with backup and sources.  The review has 
been most enlightening as to correcting wrong paths, etc. Good Luck in your 
progress!

Bob

On May 23, 2010, at 2:44 PM, smithmp wrote:

> I used to say that I was researching my genealogy.  Now, after over 15 years, 
> I have started over because much of what I had gathered in the beginning did 
> not have a source citation attached.  Nor did I know anything about putting 
> notes in the research section so that when I came back to a person after a 
> very long time I would know what I had already searched and where I thought I 
> might search next.  I guess I should have just called it "Gathering Family 
> Folktales".  As painful as it is, I have started over, using my old database 
> as just a reference point.  I have come up with a couple of problems.
>
> 1.  There are times when I find in a source only the date of an event such as 
> a birth date but no location.  Then I'll find just the location but not the 
> date or at least not the full date.  How do I source it in Legacy to reflect 
> that a source had half of the birth date and another source had the other 
> half with out having to put an alt. birth event?  Or is this the only way to 
> do this?  Because if this is so then reports like the Pedegree chart will 
> only list half of the information.
>
> 2.  I have begun using the to-do feature in Legacy and have found it a 
> wonderful resource for keeping track of where I've looked and what my 
> thoughts were on a specific piece of research.  Even if I looked at a source 
> and did not find anything in it for what I am looking for, I add it as a 
> source on that particular to-do item with a notation in the source detail 
> that I did not find anything concerning the item I was looking for.  
> Sometimes I put why I researched a particular source if it isn't clear as to 
> why I was looking at it.  Sometimes I make a note in the source detail that 
> there was a good description of an area where an ancestor lived or that it 
> had a map that may prove handy to go back to, or even to list some of the 
> sources in the bibliography as possible places to also look for certain 
> information.  My question on this is if there is an easier way to print what 
> sources were searched for an individual person or event if it was not 
> actually used as a source for that person or event.  I ask this because 
> Legacy has a glitch at the moment that will not print your sources for your 
> to-do list.  It just lists a number and nothing else.  I already asked tech 
> support and they are aware of this problem and will fix it on a future 
> release.  I'm am just hoping there might be a work around in the meanwhile.
>
> digital image by subscription
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> Geographia - World Travel Destinations, Culture and History Guide. 
> InterKnowledge Corp., Northern Ireland - History of Derry　
> (http://www.geographia.com/northern-ireland/ukider01.htm : accessed 22 May 
> 2010), History of Derry [and the creation of Londonderry]. Repository: 
> Geographia - World Travel Destinations, Culture and History Guide, 
> i...@geographia.com, http://www.geographia.com.
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Re: [LegacyUG] possible problem

[Robert Runion]

Mike - Being PC illiterate - could you explain how to provide an MD5 checksum 
to a photo (i.e., .jpg, and other such items)?  I haven't experienced the 
problem as previously described, but a check sum might be a useful tool.

Bob

On May 3, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Mike Fry wrote:

> On 2010/05/03 09:37, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Tony,
>>
>> I'm sorry, but in this case Legacy are correct. This is basic computing, if
>> you have files with the same file name in various directories just how do
>> you expect a machine to tell which is the correct one - it cannot see a
>> picture. You can't blame the operating system either because it also is
>> blind.
>
> I have to agree with Ron and the developers. How on earth can this be a
> bug? How is Legacy (in its' present incarnation) supposed to know that
> because of *your* error it was supposed to use *this* picture and not
> *that* one? This always happens when you change something that affects
> Legacy behind its' back, and don't tell it what you've done.
>
> There is one way that Legacy could distinguish between two pictures,
> that because of lazy user practices, have the same name. The first time
> a picture is linked, an MD5 checksum of the file can be taken and stored
> in the database. Then, when looking for a similarly named file, the
> program can calculate the checksum of each file it finds, comparing it
> with the stored checksum. An exact match should mean that it has found
> the right picture - so far as it can tell! If no match is found, then a
> list of all similarly named files can be displayed, along with a
> thumbnail, and the user can then select the right one.
>
> --
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