Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Book report and Shared Events

2016-04-19 Thread Linda Greethurst
Leon and Cathy,
   Thank you for your thoughts regarding the printing with shared events,
especially for census.  I sort of suspected that I might be getting lazy
and wanted Legacy to read my mind instead of what I selected!

 I am playing with and learning how to use the Shared Events to see if I
like using them- -  and have discovered this frequent repetition is one
factor that is not necessarily one I will continue to choose for census.
However, the shared events certainly is great for establishing individuals
and roles for bapatism sponsors, or marriage sponsors, or even pall
bearers, witnesses for a will, etc.

Linda




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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Book report and Shared Events

2016-04-18 Thread Cathy Pinner

Linda,

I don't think you can have it both ways. If you tick to include the Main 
Event notes for every person, that's what I'd expect to get.
Since I've been using Legacy a long time, I don't use Shared Events for 
Census since Shared Events are new in Legacy 8.


I have the full transcription of the Census in the Event Notes for the 
Head of Household and in the Source Detail Text (which I don't include 
in reports).
I only add Event notes for other household members if there is something 
I want to highlight - like a strange version of a name or if it's a 
household member who is my chief interest.


I don't have a problem seeing the full transcription if I need to when 
researching etc as it's in the attached source or I can go to the head 
of household. Since I don't use Shared Events, I use the Description 
field for the Head of household's name and the relationship to the Head.


Possibly you can expect both yourself and your readers to go to the Head 
of household for details and not check that checkbox?


Cathy

Leon Chapman wrote:


Linda:

I do not know of a way to turn this census printing off for each person.

What I do, which helps to minimize paper, is to include a Census event
for each person, but it is just the Census name, date and location. If
their is an occupation for the person in the census, then I include an
occupation event for that person using the source as the census.

I place all of the transcription of the Census in the Source. The
sources will be printed only one time at the end of the report.

I think this approach is much cleaner in the reports since the census
event (census date and place) are printed as a bullet item for each
individual and the details printed once at the end of the report as
part of Sources.

Good luck!
Chap

Chap
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On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Linda Greethurst mailto:llg...@gmail.com>> wrote:



The example first:
I have a married couple and their 4 children. The census years
covered by this family begin in 1860 through 1940. More precisely
using the 1880 census: I enter the census under the head of household
and then transcribe the census. I click "share event", select the
names, adjust their roles as indicated on the census. Before I click
save, I also click the little box that says "Add the main event notes
to the sentence."

I like this feature when I am looking at just one individual in the
family as I can see the full transcription and just where that person
"fits" into the family- which I think is imiportant. And this is good
when I need to share just that one individual with someone else -
they will get the full picture.

BUT - when I do a descendant Narrative book, that one 1880 census is
now repeated in it's entirety 6 times - for the head, for his wife,
and for each of the 4 kids. This is not only taking up a lot of
paper/ink space, but it gets really boring to read. And I have lots
of census for this family.

If I put the transcription into the footnotes, then there are lots of
repeat footnotes that also get boring. If I choose the option to not
include "add main event notes.." then I lose the overview of the family.

So, the question: is there a way in the descendant narrative to have
it printed once and not repeat? Or would I have to use the notes or
override sentence on the "role page" for the wife and each child.
This latter options seems to defeat the purpose of the shared event
in the first place?? Or am I missing something.

Or is this one of those "you just have to do some of your own work -
it's your tree and the program can't do everything for all people."

Looking forward to the ideas and comments.
Linda
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Book report and Shared Events

2016-04-18 Thread Leon Chapman
Linda:

I do not know of a way to turn this census printing off for each person.  

What I do, which helps to minimize paper, is to include a Census event for each 
person, but it is just the Census name, date and location.  If their is an 
occupation for the person in the census, then I include an occupation event for 
that person using the source as the census.

I place all of the transcription of the Census in the Source.  The sources will 
be printed only one time at the end of the report.

I think this approach is much cleaner in the reports since the census event 
(census date and place) are printed as a bullet item for each individual and 
the details printed once at the end of the report as part of Sources.

Good luck!
Chap

Chap
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Sent from my iPad
Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com
⛳


> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Linda Greethurst  wrote:
> 
> The example first:  
> I have a married couple and their 4 children.  The census years covered by 
> this family begin in 1860 through 1940.  More precisely using the 1880 
> census:  I enter the census under the head of household and then transcribe 
> the census.  I click "share event", select the names, adjust their roles as 
> indicated on the census.  Before I click save, I also click the little box 
> that says "Add the main event notes to the sentence."
> 
> I like this feature when I am looking at just one individual in the family as 
> I can see the full transcription and just where that person "fits" into the 
> family- which I think is imiportant.  And this is good when I need to share 
> just that one individual with someone else - they will get the full picture.
> 
> BUT - when I do a descendant Narrative book, that one 1880 census is now 
> repeated in it's entirety 6 times - for the head, for his wife, and for each 
> of the 4 kids.  This is not only taking up a lot of paper/ink space, but it 
> gets really boring to read.  And I have lots of census for this family.
> 
> If I put the transcription into the footnotes, then there are lots of repeat 
> footnotes that also get boring.  If I choose the option to not include "add 
> main event notes.." then I lose the overview of the family.
> 
> So, the question:  is there a way in the descendant narrative to have it 
> printed once and not repeat? Or would I have to use the notes or override 
> sentence  on the "role page" for the wife and each child.  This latter 
> options seems to defeat the purpose of the shared event in the first place??  
> Or am I missing something.  
> 
> Or is this one of those "you just have to do some of your own work - it's 
> your tree and the program can't do everything for all people."
> 
> Looking forward to the ideas and comments.
> Linda
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[LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Book report and Shared Events

2016-04-17 Thread Linda Greethurst
The example first:
I have a married couple and their 4 children.  The census years covered by
this family begin in 1860 through 1940.  More precisely using the 1880
census:  I enter the census under the head of household and then transcribe
the census.  I click "share event", select the names, adjust their roles as
indicated on the census.  Before I click save, I also click the little box
that says "Add the main event notes to the sentence."

I like this feature when I am looking at just one individual in the family
as I can see the full transcription and just where that person "fits" into
the family- which I think is imiportant.  And this is good when I need to
share just that one individual with someone else - they will get the full
picture.

BUT - when I do a descendant Narrative book, that one 1880 census is now
repeated in it's entirety 6 times - for the head, for his wife, and for
each of the 4 kids.  This is not only taking up a lot of paper/ink space,
but it gets really boring to read.  And I have lots of census for this
family.

If I put the transcription into the footnotes, then there are lots of
repeat footnotes that also get boring.  If I choose the option to not
include "add main event notes.." then I lose the overview of the family.

So, the question:  is there a way in the descendant narrative to have it
printed once and not repeat? Or would I have to use the notes or override
sentence  on the "role page" for the wife and each child.  This latter
options seems to defeat the purpose of the shared event in the first
place??  Or am I missing something.

Or is this one of those "you just have to do some of your own work - it's
your tree and the program can't do everything for all people."

Looking forward to the ideas and comments.
Linda
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