[LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Tony Rolfe]

For what it is worth, I have three events - Birth Registration, Death
Registration and Marriage Registration.

The description contains "vol xx, page yyy".  The date is the last month
of the Quarter (Mar, Jun, Sep or Dec) plus the year and the place is the
registration district.  RD locations have long name including county and
country (Chelmsford registration district, Essex, England) and a short
name of just the district.

The event sentence might read:

His birth was registered during the quarter ended Jun 1898 at the
Chelmsford registration district with GRO reference vol 4a, page 123

For the date, I use the year if the registration was Jun, Sep or Dec,
but "Abt Year" for March registrations.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[singhals]

Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 27/08/2013 02:01, Brian/Support wrote:
>> You can already customize what is displayed. If you are creating Birth
>> and Death Registrations in lieu of born and Died then you can display
>> those events on family view.
>>
  [snip]

> One snag is only being able to display 5 fields on Family View.  7 would
> be ideal: Birth, Birth Registration, Baptism/Christening, Death, Death
> Registration, Burial/Cremation, FamilySearchID.

The more that's visible, the less that's legible.

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Jay 1FamilyTree]

The answer to many of these "fields" to be displayed is to use Cursor
popups, often referred to as "Tool Tips" or Hover.

One line of a customized set of fields that displays when cursor rolls over
them.

Well that's my thoughts,

Jay



On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Brian/Support
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> If we expand the existing 5 fields in family view to 7 that might mean
> that some major part of the existing 3 generations on the family view
> would disappear, probably the parents. There is only so much real
> estate available on your display.
>
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> On 27 August 2013 06:32, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> snip
> > The only change to the product that I would be asking for is the ability
> > to display 7 fields on the Family View rather than the existing 5.  We
> > already have the ability to customise that view to show whichever Events
> > we choose.
> snip
> >
> > --
> > Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Jenny M Benson]

On 27/08/2013 11:45, Steve wrote:
> I have set up a registration event as you suggested, but on family view it
> displays desc/date/ place/notes.  I am using the GRO ref as the desc and
> this looks odd.
> is there a way of changing the order displayed?

I'd also put the GRO ref as the Desc but I think I'd be happy with how
it displays.  As far as I know you can't change the display order.
Would you like it better if you put the GRO ref in Notes?  Or I suppose
you could put District and Reference (in that order) into the Desc field
and not use the Place field.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Ward Walker]

It seems to me that if one knows when a birth or death was registered, but
not when it actually happened, then the birth or death date should be
recorded with the 'Before' notation (one of the acceptable date formats). If
you do that, is it not adequate to keep the birth and death fields as-is on
the Family view, and keep the registration data in events that are only a
click away?

  Ward

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

On 2013/08/27 11:02, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> One snag is only being able to display 5 fields on Family View.  7 would
> be ideal: Birth, Birth Registration, Baptism/Christening, Death, Death
> Registration, Burial/Cremation, FamilySearchID.

I think your first problem, as such, is that the Birth, Death and Marriage
Registrations are primarily a UK thing. What you're asking for is a change
to
what is fundamentally a US-centric product. It took some time to get Legacy
to
accept the UK registration quarters as dates and even longer for them to be
used
in some of the internal date and period calculations.

Set them up as Registration events in which the FreeBMD information can be
recorded and sourced if you like. Then if it's the first date enter it so
that
it appears on the Family view. You should probably set up separate locations
for
the Registration Districts as well. You need to distinguish between the RD
and a
town of the same name. Later, as you get more accurate information, enter it
initially as an Alt. event and swap it with the less accurate birth/death or
marriage information. The fact that you now have two events that are
effectively
the same is nothing to worry about. Simply mark what is now the Alt. event
as a
private event.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Mike Fry]

On 2013/08/27 12:45, Steve wrote:

> I'm with you for a 7 field display.

Me as well. But I do agree with Brian's comment about the limited availability
of screen space to display things on. Me, I'd do away with the toolbar in favour
of 6 lines :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Brian/Support]

If we expand the existing 5 fields in family view to 7 that might mean
that some major part of the existing 3 generations on the family view
would disappear, probably the parents. There is only so much real
estate available on your display.

We are happy to consider suggestions for new features.

In Legacy 6.0 and 7.0 you can suggest a new feature by clicking on the
link on the Legacy Home Tab Support Section

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Use the drop down list in the first box to select a category, Legacy 7
or Legacy Charting.

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On 27 August 2013 06:32, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
snip
> The only change to the product that I would be asking for is the ability
> to display 7 fields on the Family View rather than the existing 5.  We
> already have the ability to customise that view to show whichever Events
> we choose.
snip
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Steve]

Jenny

I have set up a registration event as you suggested, but on family view it
displays desc/date/ place/notes.  I am using the GRO ref as the desc and
this looks odd.
is there a way of changing the order displayed?

I'm with you for a 7 field display.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

On 27/08/2013 11:01, Mike Fry wrote:
> On 2013/08/27 11:02, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>> One snag is only being able to display 5 fields on Family View.  7 would
>> be ideal: Birth, Birth Registration, Baptism/Christening, Death, Death
>> Registration, Burial/Cremation, FamilySearchID.
>
> I think your first problem, as such, is that the Birth, Death and Marriage
> Registrations are primarily a UK thing. What you're asking for is a change
> to
> what is fundamentally a US-centric product. It took some time to get
> Legacy to
> accept the UK registration quarters as dates and even longer for them to
> be used
> in some of the internal date and period calculations.

I don't see any problem.  There must be *many* of us who have created
custom Events.  I would just be creating 2 more custom Events; I might
be the only person ever to create them or some other people might also
choose to do so.

The only change to the product that I would be asking for is the ability
to display 7 fields on the Family View rather than the existing 5.  We
already have the ability to customise that view to show whichever Events
we choose.
>
> Set them up as Registration events in which the FreeBMD information can be
> recorded and sourced if you like. Then if it's the first date enter it so
> that
> it appears on the Family view. You should probably set up separate
> locations for
> the Registration Districts as well. You need to distinguish between the RD
> and a
> town of the same name.

I already do that.

Later, as you get more accurate information, enter it
> initially as an Alt. event and swap it with the less accurate birth/death
> or
> marriage information. The fact that you now have two events that are
> effectively
> the same is nothing to worry about. Simply mark what is now the Alt. event
> as a
> private event.

I prefer to keep "Alt Events" for situations where there is conflicting
information about the same data.  In the case of Registrations, we are
not talking about conflicting information, we are talking about
additional information.
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Jenny M Benson]

On 27/08/2013 11:01, Mike Fry wrote:
> On 2013/08/27 11:02, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>> One snag is only being able to display 5 fields on Family View.  7 would
>> be ideal: Birth, Birth Registration, Baptism/Christening, Death, Death
>> Registration, Burial/Cremation, FamilySearchID.
>
> I think your first problem, as such, is that the Birth, Death and Marriage
> Registrations are primarily a UK thing. What you're asking for is a change to
> what is fundamentally a US-centric product. It took some time to get Legacy to
> accept the UK registration quarters as dates and even longer for them to be 
> used
> in some of the internal date and period calculations.

I don't see any problem.  There must be *many* of us who have created
custom Events.  I would just be creating 2 more custom Events; I might
be the only person ever to create them or some other people might also
choose to do so.

The only change to the product that I would be asking for is the ability
to display 7 fields on the Family View rather than the existing 5.  We
already have the ability to customise that view to show whichever Events
we choose.
>
> Set them up as Registration events in which the FreeBMD information can be
> recorded and sourced if you like. Then if it's the first date enter it so that
> it appears on the Family view. You should probably set up separate locations 
> for
> the Registration Districts as well. You need to distinguish between the RD 
> and a
> town of the same name.

I already do that.

Later, as you get more accurate information, enter it
> initially as an Alt. event and swap it with the less accurate birth/death or
> marriage information. The fact that you now have two events that are 
> effectively
> the same is nothing to worry about. Simply mark what is now the Alt. event as 
> a
> private event.

I prefer to keep "Alt Events" for situations where there is conflicting
information about the same data.  In the case of Registrations, we are
not talking about conflicting information, we are talking about
additional information.
>


--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Mike Fry]

On 2013/08/27 11:02, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> One snag is only being able to display 5 fields on Family View.  7 would
> be ideal: Birth, Birth Registration, Baptism/Christening, Death, Death
> Registration, Burial/Cremation, FamilySearchID.

I think your first problem, as such, is that the Birth, Death and Marriage
Registrations are primarily a UK thing. What you're asking for is a change to
what is fundamentally a US-centric product. It took some time to get Legacy to
accept the UK registration quarters as dates and even longer for them to be used
in some of the internal date and period calculations.

Set them up as Registration events in which the FreeBMD information can be
recorded and sourced if you like. Then if it's the first date enter it so that
it appears on the Family view. You should probably set up separate locations for
the Registration Districts as well. You need to distinguish between the RD and a
town of the same name. Later, as you get more accurate information, enter it
initially as an Alt. event and swap it with the less accurate birth/death or
marriage information. The fact that you now have two events that are effectively
the same is nothing to worry about. Simply mark what is now the Alt. event as a
private event.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Jenny M Benson]

On 27/08/2013 02:01, Brian/Support wrote:
> You can already customize what is displayed. If you are creating Birth
> and Death Registrations in lieu of born and Died then you can display
> those events on family view.
>
>
> To customize the items displayed click on the labels in Family view.
> If you have difficulty or questions at any stage press F1 or use the
> help button on the screen for more information.

I read that and was thinking "But we really need separate fields for
Birth Registration and Death Registration, not just labels" and then, of
course, I realized that there is nothing stopping us creating a
Registration Event and using that, instead of putting Registration
information into the Birth & Death fields as I have been doing up to now.

Up to now, when I don't know a Birth/Death date I have entered the
Registration date, eg March Q 1850, and updated this to the actual date
when I discover it, leaving the Registration Source attached.  Now have
to think about whether I want to update everything to accommodate
Registration Events!

One snag is only being able to display 5 fields on Family View.  7 would
be ideal: Birth, Birth Registration, Baptism/Christening, Death, Death
Registration, Burial/Cremation, FamilySearchID.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Brian/Support]

You can already customize what is displayed. If you are creating Birth
and Death Registrations in lieu of born and Died then you can display
those events on family view.


To customize the items displayed click on the labels in Family view.
If you have difficulty or questions at any stage press F1 or use the
help button on the screen for more information.

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On 26 August 2013 16:52, Berntsen Family  wrote:
> Hi
> I would like to see incorporated in v8 the chance to change the BORN & DIED
> titles as with BURIED to CREMATED so as to reflect where the information
> came from.  A lot of people use registration quarters as their date, I would
> like the chance to change the BORN or DIED to BIRTH or DEATH Registration.
> That will show that you do not have the correct date of the event, but when
> it was registered, as some people could register months later.
>
> John Berntsen
> New Zealand
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[LegacyUG] Individual Information

[Berntsen Family]

Hi
I would like to see incorporated in v8 the chance to change the BORN & DIED 
titles as with BURIED to CREMATED so as to reflect where the information came 
from.  A lot of people use registration quarters as their date, I would like 
the chance to change the BORN or DIED to BIRTH or DEATH Registration.
That will show that you do not have the correct date of the event, but when it 
was registered, as some people could register months later.

John Berntsen
New Zealand


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Re: [LegacyUG] individual information - occupation

[JLB]

Since people can have more than one in a lifetime, I usually add it as
it is from the census info as one event called Residence i.e.
date/location/occupation. That obviously wouldn't work if you want to
separate out the occupation in which case it needs to be a separate
Event, spanning whatever the dates are. How many times do we know,
though, what exactly a person was doing between answering questions for
census-takers?
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> On the individual information page, there is a lot of useful information
> about the individual, which at a glance tells you the most important
> events.
>
> However, I find that I consistently wish to know the persons occupation.
> Was this individual a tailor or a shoemaker?
>
> Is there any way that I can insert the occupation of an individual on
> the ‘one-page view’ – *Individual Information*.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] individual information - occupation

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/05/20 09:09, mike bridgeford wrote:

> On the individual information page, there is a lot of useful information
> about the individual, which at a glance tells you the most important
> events.
>
> However, I find that I consistently wish to know the persons occupation.
> Was this individual a tailor or a shoemaker?
>
> Is there any way that I can insert the occupation of an individual on
> the ‘one-page view’ – *Individual Information*.

Not on the 'Individual's Information' page as such. You can always add
one or more Events named Occupation, which will give a chronological
view of what the person did at various times (census, marriage, death,
baptisms of kids ...)

On the 'Family' tab, you can change any of the default labels (Born,
Bapt, Died, Bur etc) but I prefer to change the 'Death Cau' to give the
occupation. To do this:-

a) Right-click on one of the labels - gives Customise Display
b) Click on the ... button for the last label - gives a list of fields
c) Select Event - gives Master Event Definition List
d) Select Occupation - DONE!

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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[LegacyUG] individual information - occupation

[mike bridgeford]

Hi Guys,

On the individual information page, there is a lot of useful information
about the individual, which at a glance tells you the most important events.


However, I find that I consistently wish to know the persons occupation. Was
this individual a tailor or a shoemaker?

Is there any way that I can insert the occupation of an individual on the
'one-page view' - Individual Information.



Regards,



Mike Bridgeford

(M.B.A.,B.Sc. Mech. Eng.,F.S.A.I.Mech.Eng.,M.S.A.I.M.M.,Pr.Eng.)

P.O. Box 325

Plettenberg Bay
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