Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:32:30 -0600, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote: They appear to be heading toward a fee based system with all their limited access restrictions. I don't know if this is true, but I for one wouldn't mind paying a small fee for the convenience of accessing the digitized records from the convenience of my home. I used to pay $5 plus per FHL film and had to drive 12 miles each way to be able to view films once a week for only 2 hours with no ability to make a copy (except if I used my own digital camera). I used to pay for Ancestry.com too, but have recently dropped my subscription because I am finding enough info available for free on the web to keep me busy. I will probably re-up my subscription to Ancestry.com late 2012 once the 1940 U.S. Census starts to get indexed sometime next year. (Maybe I need to get to work on a modification to the Advanced Tag Living LTool to only tag individuals who appear to be heads of households.) -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
No, not a fee, Leon. Here is how it is going to work... There WILL be some databases that will be restricted. To earn access you have to index at least 900 records per quarter via the FamilySearch Indexing. Each person you index can earn you 1, 3, or 5 points depending on how difficult the record is. I am currently indexing approx 500-800 points per month (and I am not even working hard) so I will have no problem gaining access to these databases. The LDS has not started the point system yet and we do not know when they will. The family tree portion of FamilySearch is not available to the general public yet, only to the LDS and to selected LDS beta testers. If you watch Geoff's Webinar on cleaning up your Legacy file prior to FamilySearch launching, you will learn a lot. It is very much like the old Ancestral File (not the IGI!) but in a newer, easier to use format. However, it will have a lot of the same problems as the Ancestral File as Geoff points out. He did say that you will be able to fix errors in a round about way (you can ask the contributor to fix the error, you can delete sections, you can choice which information is the correct info but be aware that other people behind you can do the same thing). We will just have to wait and see :) michele P.S. I am not LDS -Original Message- From: Leon Chapman Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization David: I have exactly the same experience as you with familysearch. It was better 3-5 years ago than it is today with no access. I was told about 2 yrs ago the new system would be open to the public is a few months - it has been about 2 hrs and no access. They seem to have all these volunteers duplicating what is already available commercially and placing that data into a restricted set of databases. They appear to be heading toward a fee based system with all their limited access restrictions. For me, as a non- LDS person, familysearch has very limited utility. Sent from my iPad Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:50 PM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: I signed up when it was first announced and gave the impression that EVERYONE would have access. It has been almost 2 years since this announcement and the NON members still do not have a working login. It has been a lot of hype and no production. There are many family research programs that now have the tools, but not access, it has been a waste of my time trying to use Legacy as it is designed to interface with Family Search. A real let down by Legacy and LDS church. I have found that most of the IGI are based on the membership of the church submitting their family data that was approved by the local Ward Clerk.. My father was this person for while. They were just a rubber stamp, as a GOOD Mormon would not provide false information. It was the word from SL that all submittals were to be approved as the information was needed good or bad. After digging into what my mother had, and had submitted it was a nightmare to clean and figure out where she was going with here data. None of her data was on a computer but it is ALL at Family Search and is still a mess. She could not even spell correctly her own surname of her line. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
Dennis, I would bet that the FamilySearch volunteer indexers can get the 1940 indexed in 24 hours :) They have put other record collections out there and then announced it was important to get it done fast and if you didn't get logged in quick enough, all the batches were already taken! michele -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:16 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:32:30 -0600, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote: They appear to be heading toward a fee based system with all their limited access restrictions. I don't know if this is true, but I for one wouldn't mind paying a small fee for the convenience of accessing the digitized records from the convenience of my home. I used to pay $5 plus per FHL film and had to drive 12 miles each way to be able to view films once a week for only 2 hours with no ability to make a copy (except if I used my own digital camera). I used to pay for Ancestry.com too, but have recently dropped my subscription because I am finding enough info available for free on the web to keep me busy. I will probably re-up my subscription to Ancestry.com late 2012 once the 1940 U.S. Census starts to get indexed sometime next year. (Maybe I need to get to work on a modification to the Advanced Tag Living LTool to only tag individuals who appear to be heads of households.) -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3806 - Release Date: 08/02/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
How about changing the subject line now that it is a different subject! -Original Message- From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization Dennis, I would bet that the FamilySearch volunteer indexers can get the 1940 indexed in 24 hours :) They have put other record collections out there and then announced it was important to get it done fast and if you didn't get logged in quick enough, all the batches were already taken! michele -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:16 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:32:30 -0600, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote: They appear to be heading toward a fee based system with all their limited access restrictions. I don't know if this is true, but I for one wouldn't mind paying a small fee for the convenience of accessing the digitized records from the convenience of my home. I used to pay $5 plus per FHL film and had to drive 12 miles each way to be able to view films once a week for only 2 hours with no ability to make a copy (except if I used my own digital camera). I used to pay for Ancestry.com too, but have recently dropped my subscription because I am finding enough info available for free on the web to keep me busy. I will probably re-up my subscription to Ancestry.com late 2012 once the 1940 U.S. Census starts to get indexed sometime next year. (Maybe I need to get to work on a modification to the Advanced Tag Living LTool to only tag individuals who appear to be heads of households.) -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
I need advice on how to organize my Legacy files. I am thinking, for example, that I should have one file with my wife's lines and another with my lines. But then, what do I do when I want to show the pedigree for my children? I also think that I might want different files for active research data (which can be messy and have unverified info, etc.) versus final/complete data. And maybe different files to handle gedcoms, merging, etc. Then I need strategies for how to manage all those files, when and how to share data between them, how to share with others, when to interact with newFamilySearch (and when not to!), etc., etc. Can you point me to any good discussions about these topics that will help me to decide on my approach? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
d, If you are married and have children then you should keep them both in the same file. I have also found that genealogy is never finished or final! You will always be finding new sources and those sources lead to more ancestors and more descendants of those ancestors! If you are concerned with all the errors and stuff then you can have your master file which will have the information that you have checked and corrected and that you merge or append your other files that you work on into. If you get new gedcoms from people then you would create new legacy files from those gedcoms and create a source for that gedcom and I would add that source to the unspecified field for every one in that new file so when you merge them into your main file that source will be attached to them so you know where they came from. Then you would work on that file fixing any errors and format your places to your standard entry. Then when you think you have it cleaned up then you can merge the individuals, families, or whole file into your master file. Be sure to tag everyone that is imported or if you forget then you can tag all those people with the source that you created for them and then do a merge of the duplicates. Of course before you do all that you should have a backup of both files incase anything goes wrong you can restore one or both of them and start over. As for managing those files. I keep them in different folders depending on how and who they are for. ie I have a genealogy/sources folder for Maternal and Paternal lines and then under those I have sub-folders for the grand parent surnames and then I have a Entered folder in each of those folders. Once I have entered any files into my master file then the original file is moved into the appropriate entered folder. So an example path would look like this if : genealogy/sources/paternal/strong/entered. Hope this gave you some ideas. Russ Strong From: d Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:05 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization I need advice on how to organize my Legacy files. I am thinking, for example, that I should have one file with my wife's lines and another with my lines. But then, what do I do when I want to show the pedigree for my children? I also think that I might want different files for active research data (which can be messy and have unverified info, etc.) versus final/complete data. And maybe different files to handle gedcoms, merging, etc. Then I need strategies for how to manage all those files, when and how to share data between them, how to share with others, when to interact with newFamilySearch (and when not to!), etc., etc. Can you point me to any good discussions about these topics that will help me to decide on my approach? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
Better yet is to add the AutoSource to all fields with incoming information - that way you know specifically what was imported through that gedcom as a trail for reliability of source information. Just adding to the Unspecified field only shows that you received *something* in that gedcom but it doesn't say what. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:02 AM, my genealogy email rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote: snip If you get new gedcoms from people then you would create new legacy files from those gedcoms and create a source for that gedcom and I would add that source to the unspecified field for every one in that new file so when you merge them into your main file that source will be attached to them so you know where they came from. snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
I feel the same way Dennis. Only after I've imported the data into a new Family File and reviewed it and cleaned it up, then will I do selective importing using Split Screen Drag and Drop. There's an awful lot of junk out there! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: snip To be honest with you, I rarely import other people's GEDCOMs anymore ... that was something I did as a newbie. I've often thought about deleting some of this imported stuff but I am getting lazy in my old age. ;-) -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
Thanks for your previous comment about tagging everyone and then removing the tag, when each person is verified, when checking for duplicates. I decided to go through the entire name index and that is similar to what you suggested, but I won't have to tag anyone, except problems I want to research. Regarding the organization of the files, you said below: You do not need to worry about continually updating multiple duplicate identical persons. Could you explain what you mean? I have to rely on other gedcoms from other family members and clean them up because in some cases, I would never get the information without that. But I want to find as workable a way as possible in combining the duplicates, so I was just wondering what you meant.Thanks, --Jerry Boor / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org/ On 8/2/2011 12:52 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: Unless you have over 10,000,000,000 people in your DB, there is no good reason to split the DB into separate files. And even then, it is cleaner anyway. You do not need to worry about continually updating multiple duplicate identical persons. I have 10 different families/files mixed together in my DB. I have input whole books of towns, too old for copyrights . In the days when hard drive prices were cost prohibitave, you might NEED to do it. The computer doesn't care if the people in the DB are related to each other. They don't jump into wrong family printouts because of the size. Rich jn LACA -- On *Tue, 8/2/11, d /iamdad25@gmail. mailto:iamdad25@gmail./* wrote: From: d iamda...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 8:05 AM I need advice on how to organize my Legacy files. I am thinking, for example, that I should have one file with my wife's lines and another with my lines. But then, what do I do when I want to show the pedigree for my children? I also think that I might want different files for active research data (which can be messy and have unverified info, etc.) versus final/complete data. And maybe different files to handle gedcoms, merging, etc. Then I need strategies for how to manage all those files, when and how to share data between them, how to share with others, when to interact with newFamilySearch (and when not to!), etc., etc. Can you point me to any good discussions about these topics that will help me to decide on my approach? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
On 8/2/2011 9:24 AM, David C Abernathy wrote: At this time, since FamilySearch is for LDS members only I do NOT waste my time with them. To bad you feel that way. There is new data added on a regular basis. Go to www.familysearch.org Down on the left you can select All Record Collections You may be surprised how much data there is. Anything with a * is new or added. Most all new data is being extracted from original records. I am LDS and frequent the site very often. I have gathered new information I did not have before Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
I am not LDS. Familysearch.org is a fantastic site. I use it consistently. Kay Fordham - Original Message - From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization On 8/2/2011 9:24 AM, David C Abernathy wrote: At this time, since FamilySearch is for LDS members only I do NOT waste my time with them. To bad you feel that way. There is new data added on a regular basis. Go to www.familysearch.org Down on the left you can select All Record Collections You may be surprised how much data there is. Anything with a * is new or added. Most all new data is being extracted from original records. I am LDS and frequent the site very often. I have gathered new information I did not have before Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:29 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization On 8/2/2011 9:24 AM, David C Abernathy wrote: At this time, since FamilySearch is for LDS members only I do NOT waste my time with them. To bad you feel that way. There is new data added on a regular basis. Go to www.familysearch.org Down on the left you can select All Record Collections You may be surprised how much data there is. Anything with a * is new or added. Most all new data is being extracted from original records. I am LDS and frequent the site very often. I have gathered new information I did not have before Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:21:15 -0700, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Can someone clarify? Is the NewFamilySearch just the area that is currently restricted to LDS members? Or is it the area that contains the newly digitized records? Or both? I just want to be sure I know what the term NewFamilySearch really means. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
Can someone clarify? Is the NewFamilySearch just the area that is currently restricted to LDS members? Or is it the area that contains the newly digitized records? Or both? I just want to be sure I know what the term NewFamilySearch really means. FAmilySearch.org is the repository of the massive indexing process that is going on now. Millions of records are being added. New.FamilySearch.org is where the collected and linked record are. It is now open for some non-LDS. I would like to hear from some non-LDS who have access to nFS. My impression is that the pool of non-LDS is continually growing. When you address that page, there is a place to sign up, which will put you in line for access when it is available. Please note that LDS members had to wait, some for years, until their area was made available, so non-LDS are continuing the same process. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:56:58 -0700, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. OK. I just wanted to make sure I am using the term correctly. https://www.familysearch.org/ can also be considered new ... that's why I found it confusing. Thanks, -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. I think it is much more than that. There are many extracted records, most of which are also in FamilySearch.org, but in nFS many of them are already linked. And while there are newbie and mistake prone entries in nFS, there are also excellent family trees contributed by non-LDS as well as members. Many very careful researchers contribute their research to nFS. As with any information you find from any source, it needs to be verified, but I find very few errors in most trees, until you get far enough into the past that quality of basic sources declines. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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What I was saying, as others have said better, that when I Gedcom it in as a separate database, with the intention of doing the repairs (location matches,naming rules), then moving it into my main DB. I always plan to have one 'completed' database, with as many as needed still working Gedcoms. I never plan on having 2 separate DBs. Rich in LA CA --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 10:18 AM Thanks for your previous comment about tagging everyone and then removing the tag, when each person is verified, when checking for duplicates. I decided to go through the entire name index and that is similar to what you suggested, but I won't have to tag anyone, except problems I want to research. Regarding the organization of the files, you said below: You do not need to worry about continually updating multiple duplicate identical persons. Could you explain what you mean? I have to rely on other gedcoms from other family members and clean them up because in some cases, I would never get the information without that. But I want to find as workable a way as possible in combining the duplicates, so I was just wondering what you meant. Thanks, --Jerry Boor / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org/ On 8/2/2011 12:52 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: Unless you have over 10,000,000,000 people in your DB, there is no good reason to split the DB into separate files. And even then, it is cleaner anyway. You do not need to worry about continually updating multiple duplicate identical persons. I have 10 different families/files mixed together in my DB. I have input whole books of towns, too old for copyrights . In the days when hard drive prices were cost prohibitave, you might NEED to do it. The computer doesn't care if the people in the DB are related to each other. They don't jump into wrong family printouts because of the size. Rich jn LACA -- On *Tue, 8/2/11, d /iamdad25@gmail. mailto:iamdad25@gmail./* wrote: From: d iamda...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 8:05 AM I need advice on how to organize my Legacy files. I am thinking, for example, that I should have one file with my wife's lines and another with my lines. But then, what do I do when I want to show the pedigree for my children? I also think that I might want different files for active research data (which can be messy and have unverified info, etc.) versus final/complete data. And maybe different files to handle gedcoms, merging, etc. Then I need strategies for how to manage all those files, when and how to share data between them, how to share with others, when to interact with newFamilySearch (and when not to!), etc., etc. Can you point me to any good discussions about these topics that will help me to decide on my approach? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http
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The website: http://new.familysearch.org contains the Family Tree which is only open to the LDS membership and a few others that have received an invitation. It will soon be open to the general public. The website: https://www.familysearch.org/ is free and open to anyone, anywhere, anytime. It contains all of the records, images, indexes, the FamilySearch Wiki, the training aids, the library catalog and a whole lot more. Rick Merrill From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:21:15 -0700, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Can someone clarify? Is the NewFamilySearch just the area that is currently restricted to LDS members? Or is it the area that contains the newly digitized records? Or both? I just want to be sure I know what the term NewFamilySearch really means. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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That's a spam-type site because of the extra i in family. On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote: The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Yes and no. NewFamilySearch is actually 2 different DBs. The first is the LDS church 'endowment' stuff. Private church stuff for Living People (Mormons). The second is the repairing of the IGI, etc. which is sneaking info into Old Family Search (sort of). The second one is now open. The first will never be. Rich in LA CA --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 11:33 AM On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:21:15 -0700, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Can someone clarify? Is the NewFamilySearch just the area that is currently restricted to LDS members? Or is it the area that contains the newly digitized records? Or both? I just want to be sure I know what the term NewFamilySearch really means. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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THE CORRECT URL FOR NEW FAMILY SEARCH IS https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome Then Register for the new FamilySearch then complete the information for non members. EVERYTHING is available to members and non members alike, except ordinance information, available to members of the church only. One new tool is the Discussion box for any person listed on this site where you can open up a dialogue with members and non members alike. https://www.familysearch.org/ is the excellent site for ALL records ever collected, digitized, filmed, etc. and indexed! I am a subscriber to Ancestry.com and I am seeing more and more of the records there available on familysearch.org. Census records now available are a treasure trove of data; along with many other records from other countries, digitized or indexed and available on familysearch. Karen Dixon On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thanks for correcting the URL, Karen my fingers got a little twisted g Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Karen Dixon oolig...@comcast.net wrote: THE CORRECT URL FOR NEW FAMILY SEARCH IS https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Karen, I am non LDS, and I have a 'Family Search' account. Maybe it isn't a 'New' Family search account, it's the one I use to access family search, and particularly to order microfilms for shipping to my local FHC. When I go to the URL for new family search and sign on with that account, I get the following message. Your account is not ready for new.familysearch.org. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You will be informed by your priesthood leaders when your area can use the system. Members should use their LDS Account. Volunteers who previously used new.familysearch.org. Click here to combine your previous and new accounts. General public. Look for a future announcement when you will have access to new.familysearch.org. So, it appears that I cannot access new.familysearch.org yet as I am a member of the general public. Paul Gray From: Karen Dixon [mailto:oolig...@comcast.net] Sent: August-02-11 1:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization THE CORRECT URL FOR NEW FAMILY SEARCH IS https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome Then Register for the new FamilySearch then complete the information for non members. EVERYTHING is available to members and non members alike, except ordinance information, available to members of the church only. One new tool is the Discussion box for any person listed on this site where you can open up a dialogue with members and non members alike. https://www.familysearch.org/ is the excellent site for ALL records ever collected, digitized, filmed, etc. and indexed! I am a subscriber to Ancestry.com and I am seeing more and more of the records there available on familysearch.org. Census records now available are a treasure trove of data; along with many other records from other countries, digitized or indexed and available on familysearch. Karen Dixon On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization
I just tried to get into the LDS site using the URL below. I have previously register and I am not an LDS member. This is the screen I got: Your account is not ready for new.familysearch.org. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You will be informed by your priesthood leaders when your area can use the system. Members should use their LDS Account. Volunteers who previously used new.familysearch.org. https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/connectaccountsview Click here to combine your previous and new accounts. General public. Look for a future announcement when you will have access to new.familysearch.org. Close _ From: Karen Dixon [mailto:oolig...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization THE CORRECT URL FOR NEW FAMILY SEARCH IS https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome Then Register for the new FamilySearch then complete the information for non members. EVERYTHING is available to members and non members alike, except ordinance information, available to members of the church only. One new tool is the Discussion box for any person listed on this site where you can open up a dialogue with members and non members alike. https://www.familysearch.org/ is the excellent site for ALL records ever collected, digitized, filmed, etc. and indexed! I am a subscriber to Ancestry.com and I am seeing more and more of the records there available on familysearch.org. Census records now available are a treasure trove of data; along with many other records from other countries, digitized or indexed and available on familysearch. Karen Dixon On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thannk you. Jerry RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: What I was saying, as others have said better, that when I Gedcom it in as a separate database, with the intention of doing the repairs (location matches,naming rules), then moving it into my main DB. I always plan to have one 'completed' database, with as many as needed still working Gedcoms. I never plan on having 2 separate DBs. Rich in LA CA --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 10:18 AM Thanks for your previous comment about tagging everyone and then removing the tag, when each person is verified, when checking for duplicates. I decided to go through the entire name index and that is similar to what you suggested, but I won't have to tag anyone, except problems I want to research. Regarding the organization of the files, you said below: You do not need to worry about continually updating multiple duplicate identical persons. Could you explain what you mean? I have to rely on other gedcoms from other family members and clean them up because in some cases, I would never get the information without that. But I want to find as workable a way as possible in combining the duplicates, so I was just wondering what you meant. Thanks, --Jerry Boor / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org/ On 8/2/2011 12:52 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: Unless you have over 10,000,000,000 people in your DB, there is no good reason to split the DB into separate files. And even then, it is cleaner anyway. You do not need to worry about continually updating multiple duplicate identical persons. I have 10 different families/files mixed together in my DB. I have input whole books of towns, too old for copyrights . In the days when hard drive prices were cost prohibitave, you might NEED to do it. The computer doesn't care if the people in the DB are related to each other. They don't jump into wrong family printouts because of the size. Rich jn LACA -- On *Tue, 8/2/11, d /iamdad25@gmail. mailto:iamdad25@gmail./* wrote: From: d iamda...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 8:05 AM I need advice on how to organize my Legacy files. I am thinking, for example, that I should have one file with my wife's lines and another with my lines. But then, what do I do when I want to show the pedigree for my children? I also think that I might want different files for active research data (which can be messy and have unverified info, etc.) versus final/complete data. And maybe different files to handle gedcoms, merging, etc. Then I need strategies for how to manage all those files, when and how to share data between them, how to share with others, when to interact with newFamilySearch (and when not to!), etc., etc. Can you point me to any good discussions about these topics that will help me to decide on my approach? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http
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I think you have to click on the FamilySearch Web Site to the right of the Sign In column, and that will take you to the allowed site for non-LDS members. You will need to be sure you sign in at the top right of the new window since you are registered for FamilySearch. I've found lots of documents and info there that I've been able to attach to personal records in Legacy. Wanda Handberry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Dear Paul - I just registered a fictitious name and it went through fine BUT I do know that for some reason the opening of accounts is regional, and not everyone, even members, can sign on unless that part of the country/world is open yet. This is still a new system for the Church, and they have been beta testing it for several years. Almost all of the bugs are worked out, but not all. I live in Tacoma, WA, and we got it in this area only last year after others had it for a year, and obviously from what I hear around the globe, there are still areas not open. Not being a tech junky I cannot say why, but it has everything to do with technical issues and nothing to do with membership in the church, OR non members generally not having access. So by the message you are getting, it looks like is not even open for church members in your area yet. Where are you, by the by? Since you have the Family Search, THAT is the tool you need for research and the best one. Of the two, I prefer Family Search to find people, since the newfamilysearch is information submitted and on file ever since the church started collecting family-submitted records. It is loaded with duplications, guesses, junk and unsubstantiated data. Not a good source for proper documentation. I love Family Search because it reflects actual records, not family guesswork. So keep up the good work, and of course you already know what good helpers you have at your local FH Library! Sincerely, Karen - Original Message - From: Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization Karen, I am non LDS, and I have a 'Family Search' account. Maybe it isn't a 'New' Family search account, it's the one I use to access family search, and particularly to order microfilms for shipping to my local FHC. When I go to the URL for new family search and sign on with that account, I get the following message. Your account is not ready for new.familysearch.org. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You will be informed by your priesthood leaders when your area can use the system. Members should use their LDS Account. Volunteers who previously used new.familysearch.org. Click here to combine your previous and new accounts. General public. Look for a future announcement when you will have access to new.familysearch.org. So, it appears that I cannot access new.familysearch.org yet as I am a member of the general public. Paul Gray From: Karen Dixon [mailto:oolig...@comcast.net] Sent: August-02-11 1:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization THE CORRECT URL FOR NEW FAMILY SEARCH IS https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome Then Register for the new FamilySearch then complete the information for non members. EVERYTHING is available to members and non members alike, except ordinance information, available to members of the church only. One new tool is the Discussion box for any person listed on this site where you can open up a dialogue with members and non members alike. https://www.familysearch.org/ is the excellent site for ALL records ever collected, digitized, filmed, etc. and indexed! I am a subscriber to Ancestry.com and I am seeing more and more of the records there available on familysearch.org. Census records now available are a treasure trove of data; along with many other records from other countries, digitized or indexed and available on familysearch. Karen Dixon On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User
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I signed up when it was first announced and gave the impression that EVERYONE would have access. It has been almost 2 years since this announcement and the NON members still do not have a working login. It has been a lot of hype and no production. There are many family research programs that now have the tools, but not access, it has been a waste of my time trying to use Legacy as it is designed to interface with Family Search. A real let down by Legacy and LDS church. I have found that most of the IGI are based on the membership of the church submitting their family data that was approved by the local Ward Clerk. My father was this person for while. They were just a rubber stamp, as a GOOD Mormon would not provide false information. It was the word from SL that all submittals were to be approved as the information was needed good or bad. After digging into what my mother had, and had submitted it was a nightmare to clean and figure out where she was going with here data. None of her data was on a computer but it is ALL at Family Search and is still a mess. She could not even spell correctly her own surname of her line. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file organization The New Familiy Search is just trees contributed by members... It's much like the old IGI and best used for clues, IMHO. If you go to new.FamiliySearch.org, you can sign up to get on the list for a non-member log-in. The only thing you'll not see once you get your log-in is the ordinance data for church members. The www.FamilySearch.org site is the one with all the really good stuff like scans and transcriptions! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Tim, That is true, but if one can NOT access the NewFamilySearch what good does it do me? The OLD Family Search has some good information, but the real stuff is in the NEW area. Thanks, David C Abernathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Karen, I'm in Calgary, Alberta. I don't know if new Family Search is open to LDS members here. I will continue to access www.familysearch.org. Although this isn't 'new' Family search, it is regularly updated with 10s of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) records. These new updates are 'Historical Records', i.e. official birth, marriage, death, census, military service etc. However, it also gives me 'trees' which are the user submitted information, mostly old Ancestral File entries. I don't know what else New family search will give me data wise, but I understand it will allow me to upload and download information between Legacy and NFS. Beyond that, I'm not sure what I will get that I don't already have. Contrary to some other posters (and in agreement with others), I find www.familysearch.org extremely useful and getting better (adding more records) all the time. It has lots of information not on Ancestry, and it's free. Paul Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I love familysearch.org! I have gotten over 500 copies of actual death certificates and they're now adding marriage affidavits. Sally In a message dated 8/2/2011 9:41:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chap...@gmail.com writes: David: I have exactly the same experience as you with familysearch. It was better 3-5 years ago than it is today with no access. I was told about 2 yrs ago the new system would be open to the public is a few months - it has been about 2 hrs and no access. They seem to have all these volunteers duplicating what is already available commercially and placing that data into a restricted set of databases. They appear to be heading toward a fee based system with all their limited access restrictions. For me, as a non- LDS person, familysearch has very limited utility. Sent from my iPad Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
