RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Neundorf
Hi,

I have been able to change the sex of my husband pretty easily, but when I try 
and do ancestry reports for our children it will only do the report of the 
spouse in the Male (for two guys) or female (for two girls) spots. That happens 
for all same sex couples in my reports. I know that this has been in the 
pipeline for quite a long time because I brought it up almost a year and half 
ago.

Work arounds are OK but a permanent fix would be fantastic.

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Stan Baker [mailto:s...@ihug.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:16 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Thanks for your prompt reply Jim.
The use of a word processor to amend final text is clearly far easier in my 
case than attacking the database with MS Access even though I do have and use 
that. I am concerned that the fix will leave my database vulnerable as you say 
to other issues and add ins not working. I wonder if anyone has a template of 
how they handled it post production with a word processor in their tree?

Can you give any indication Jim when the problem will be resolved in the 
software though? Hopefully before the following tree publication in 5 month 
time. From another post it seems to have been in the pipeline for a very long 
time Best regards Stan Baker

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:59 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Sorry about the link. Try
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549 (without the period).

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: "Jim Terry/Support" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:52 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Stan,
>
> Please see the support article "Same Sex Couples" at
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549. If you need
> assistance with the work around, please send me a message at
> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com.
>
> Jim
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>  Original Message 
> > From: "Stan Baker" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:19 AM
> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
> >
> > I am new to this mailing list so my apologies if it has been covered
> before.
> > I have been using Legacy for over 20 years and have a tree with
> > about
> 7000
> > names including over 4000 living, most of which are recorded with
> > full contact details including email phone and physical addresses
> > and
> occupation.
> > I am now using the latest version 8 but have not in the past
encountered
> any
> > issues in using the software and have never had to resort to a forum
such
> as
> > this.
> >
> > In the past a General note has been added describing details of same
sex
> > relationships where the parties are keen for this to be recorded.
> >
> > Over recent years same sex marriage have become legal in many
> > countries

> and
> > 3 families in my tree have such a marriage and understandably expect
> their
> > marriage to be treated as any other marriage which is required by law.

> One
> > such family has children with the same sex people legal parents. The
> next
> > family tree is due to be published in 6 weeks' time.
> >
> > Currently it is not possible to change the recorded sex of a spouse
all
> > report wording therefore records them wrongly as him or her, he or she.

> Can
> > anyone advise how they have worked around this problem please  other
> than
> > manually changing reports in a word processor before release.
> >
> > Best regards Stan Baker in Wellington New Zealand.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Ron Bernier
Adrian,
Respectfully, if Legacy8 is such a disaster for you then why not revert to
Legacy7 and eliminate the disasters you are apparently experiencing.  As
for secrecy, I have never heard of any software package (genealogy or
other) that broadcasts their development to the world.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:39 PM, "a...@wavp.co.uk"  wrote:

It is secrecy. The bug list is not publicly available. Let's get version 8
working correctly before worrying about 9 or are we going to 10 as
Microsoft did. Legacy 7 et al was fine. 8 appears to be full of problems. I
for one wished I hadn't upgraded as I am not sure what I got apart from
numerous problems.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Adrian,

It's not "secrecy" at all. Some changes like allowing same sex
relationships/marriages affect many aspects of Legacy, like reports,
events, file maintenance, etc. It takes time and testing. I presume things
that crash Legacy and affect the largest numbers of users probably get the
programmer's first priority. In addition, the programmers are always
thinking ahead to the next version while trying to work on things in the
current version. We have a bug tracking system as well as a list of
suggestions made by users that the programmers make use of. I image that it
all can get complicated. So we never know how long beta testing will take
and what issues testers might find.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: a...@wavp.co.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11 <201511>:55 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Jim
>
> You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned. We
have no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long!
We don't understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at
version fix lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same
time obvious problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have
reported 5 bugs and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was
previously known about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated
fixes.
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread CE WOOD
Amen!

CE

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:38:31 +0100
From: a...@wavp.co.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

It is secrecy. The bug list is not publicly available. Let's get version 8 
working correctly before worrying about 9 or are we going to 10 as Microsoft 
did. Legacy 7 et al was fine. 8 appears to be full of problems. I for one 
wished I hadn't upgraded as I am not sure what I got apart from numerous 
problems.



Adrian



Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Adrian,





It's not "secrecy" at all. Some changes like allowing same sex


relationships/marriages affect many aspects of Legacy, like reports,


events, file maintenance, etc. It takes time and testing. I presume things


that crash Legacy and affect the largest numbers of users probably get the


programmer's first priority. In addition, the programmers are always


thinking ahead to the next version while trying to work on things in the


current version. We have a bug tracking system as well as a list of


suggestions made by users that the programmers make use of. I image that it


all can get complicated. So we never know how long beta testing will take


and what issues testers might find.





Jim


Technical Support


Legacy Family Tree








 Original Message 


> From: a...@wavp.co.uk


> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:55 AM


> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com


> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages


>


> Jim


>


> You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned. We


have no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long!


We don't understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at


version fix lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same


time obvious problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have


reported 5 bugs and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was


previously known about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated


fixes.


>


> Regards


>


> Adrian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread M. Brenzel
As a software tester by profession, I wouldn't categorize this as a bug.  It is 
an enhancement to add this functionality to the program.  And as Jim stated, it 
will affect most of the program.

Mary

> You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned.
> We
have no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long!
We don't understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at 
version fix lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same 
time obvious problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have 
reported 5 bugs and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was 
previously known about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated 
fixes.
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian







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Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread avp
I agree but it's the failure to make the known problems list available that 
concerns me. We are off the original subject now so probably best to close this 
debate but Legacy please please please sort the known half cousins relationship 
bug. It's causing me so much grief.

Adrian

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: I Macaulay 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Its not always to my advantage to update the program, but I am sure that there 
is value behind the changes.  I for one trust Legacy..  They have proven that 
they care more than once.
Frustrating at times but still the best.

Ian   I used to be a banker,  but then I lost interest.

Ian Macaulay   Carp, Ontario
Open at 10:AM   Close at 5:00 PM
45.2397 N long: 76.0991 W Elv 137 M UTM
Don't Forget to Save the Stamps

  From: "a...@wavp.co.uk" 
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:38 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

It is secrecy. The bug list is not publicly available. Let's get version 8 
working correctly before worrying about 9 or are we going to 10 as Microsoft 
did. Legacy 7 et al was fine. 8 appears to be full of problems. I for one 
wished I hadn't upgraded as I am not sure what I got apart from numerous 
problems.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Adrian,

It's not "secrecy" at all. Some changes like allowing same sex
relationships/marriages affect many aspects of Legacy, like reports,
events, file maintenance, etc. It takes time and testing. I presume things
that crash Legacy and affect the largest numbers of users probably get the
programmer's first priority. In addition, the programmers are always
thinking ahead to the next version while trying to work on things in the
current version. We have a bug tracking system as well as a list of
suggestions made by users that the programmers make use of. I image that it
all can get complicated. So we never know how long beta testing will take
and what issues testers might find.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: a...@wavp.co.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Jim
>
> You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned. We
have no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long!
We don't understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at
version fix lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same
time obvious problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have
reported 5 bugs and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was
previously known about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated
fixes.
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread I Macaulay
Its not always to my advantage to update the program, but I am sure that there 
is value behind the changes.  I for one trust Legacy..  They have proven that 
they care more than once.
Frustrating at times but still the best.

Ian   I used to be a banker,  but then I lost interest.

Ian Macaulay   Carp, Ontario
Open at 10:AM   Close at 5:00 PM
45.2397 N long: 76.0991 W Elv 137 M UTM
    Don't Forget to Save the Stamps

  From: "a...@wavp.co.uk" 
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:38 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

It is secrecy. The bug list is not publicly available. Let's get version 8 
working correctly before worrying about 9 or are we going to 10 as Microsoft 
did. Legacy 7 et al was fine. 8 appears to be full of problems. I for one 
wished I hadn't upgraded as I am not sure what I got apart from numerous 
problems.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Adrian,

It's not "secrecy" at all. Some changes like allowing same sex
relationships/marriages affect many aspects of Legacy, like reports,
events, file maintenance, etc. It takes time and testing. I presume things
that crash Legacy and affect the largest numbers of users probably get the
programmer's first priority. In addition, the programmers are always
thinking ahead to the next version while trying to work on things in the
current version. We have a bug tracking system as well as a list of
suggestions made by users that the programmers make use of. I image that it
all can get complicated. So we never know how long beta testing will take
and what issues testers might find.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: a...@wavp.co.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Jim
>
> You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned. We
have no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long!
We don't understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at
version fix lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same
time obvious problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have
reported 5 bugs and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was
previously known about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated
fixes.
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread avp
It is secrecy. The bug list is not publicly available. Let's get version 8 
working correctly before worrying about 9 or are we going to 10 as Microsoft 
did. Legacy 7 et al was fine. 8 appears to be full of problems. I for one 
wished I hadn't upgraded as I am not sure what I got apart from numerous 
problems.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Adrian,

It's not "secrecy" at all. Some changes like allowing same sex
relationships/marriages affect many aspects of Legacy, like reports,
events, file maintenance, etc. It takes time and testing. I presume things
that crash Legacy and affect the largest numbers of users probably get the
programmer's first priority. In addition, the programmers are always
thinking ahead to the next version while trying to work on things in the
current version. We have a bug tracking system as well as a list of
suggestions made by users that the programmers make use of. I image that it
all can get complicated. So we never know how long beta testing will take
and what issues testers might find.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: a...@wavp.co.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Jim
>
> You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned. We
have no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long!
We don't understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at
version fix lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same
time obvious problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have
reported 5 bugs and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was
previously known about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated
fixes.
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Adrian,

It's not "secrecy" at all. Some changes like allowing same sex
relationships/marriages affect many aspects of Legacy, like reports,
events, file maintenance, etc. It takes time and testing. I presume things
that crash Legacy and affect the largest numbers of users probably get the
programmer's first priority. In addition, the programmers are always
thinking ahead to the next version while trying to work on things in the
current version. We have a bug tracking system as well as a list of
suggestions made by users that the programmers make use of. I image that it
all can get complicated. So we never know how long beta testing will take
and what issues testers might find.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: a...@wavp.co.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Jim
>
> You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned. We
have no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long!
We don't understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at
version fix lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same
time obvious problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have
reported 5 bugs and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was
previously known about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated
fixes.
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread avp
Jim

You summarise what the problem is so far as the end user is concerned. We have 
no information as to when bugs will be fixed. 2 years is far too long! We don't 
understand the process for prioritisation of bugs. From looking at version fix 
lists some of the things fixed are very obscure and at the same time obvious 
problems as this are ignored or appear to be. I believe I have reported 5 bugs 
and I believe only one is fixed and that was one that was previously known 
about. Why all the secrecy about bug fixes and anticipated fixes.

Regards

Adrian



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-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Stan,

We don't have any projections for fix dates at this time. My half-sister,
who lives in the UK, has a civil union to her same-sex partner and I so
entered that way in my family file using Access change the gender. I don't
ever run into problems because it and just ignore the message after doing a
check/repair of my family file.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: "Stan Baker" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:17 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Thanks for your prompt reply Jim.
> The use of a word processor to amend final text is clearly far easier in
my case than attacking the database with MS Access even though I do have
and use that. I am concerned that the fix will leave my database vulnerable
as you say to other issues and add ins not working. I wonder if anyone has
a template of how they handled it post production with a word processor in
their tree?
>
> Can you give any indication Jim when the problem will be resolved in the
software though? Hopefully before the following tree publication in 5 month
time. From another post it seems to have been in the pipeline for a very
long time
> Best regards Stan Baker
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:59 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Sorry about the link. Try
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549 (without the
period).
>
> Jim
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree




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RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Stan,

We don't have any projections for fix dates at this time. My half-sister,
who lives in the UK, has a civil union to her same-sex partner and I so
entered that way in my family file using Access change the gender. I don't
ever run into problems because it and just ignore the message after doing a
check/repair of my family file.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: "Stan Baker" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:17 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Thanks for your prompt reply Jim.
> The use of a word processor to amend final text is clearly far easier in
my case than attacking the database with MS Access even though I do have
and use that. I am concerned that the fix will leave my database vulnerable
as you say to other issues and add ins not working. I wonder if anyone has
a template of how they handled it post production with a word processor in
their tree?
>
> Can you give any indication Jim when the problem will be resolved in the
software though? Hopefully before the following tree publication in 5 month
time. From another post it seems to have been in the pipeline for a very
long time
> Best regards Stan Baker
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:59 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Sorry about the link. Try
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549 (without the
period).
>
> Jim
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree




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RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Stan Baker
Thanks for your prompt reply Jim.
The use of a word processor to amend final text is clearly far easier in my 
case than attacking the database with MS Access even though I do have and use 
that. I am concerned that the fix will leave my database vulnerable as you say 
to other issues and add ins not working. I wonder if anyone has a template of 
how they handled it post production with a word processor in their tree?

Can you give any indication Jim when the problem will be resolved in the 
software though? Hopefully before the following tree publication in 5 month 
time. From another post it seems to have been in the pipeline for a very long 
time
Best regards Stan Baker

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:59 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

Sorry about the link. Try
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549 (without the period).

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: "Jim Terry/Support" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:52 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Stan,
>
> Please see the support article "Same Sex Couples" at
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549. If you need
> assistance with the work around, please send me a message at
> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com.
>
> Jim
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>  Original Message 
> > From: "Stan Baker" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:19 AM
> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
> >
> > I am new to this mailing list so my apologies if it has been covered
> before.
> > I have been using Legacy for over 20 years and have a tree with
> > about
> 7000
> > names including over 4000 living, most of which are recorded with
> > full contact details including email phone and physical addresses
> > and
> occupation.
> > I am now using the latest version 8 but have not in the past
encountered
> any
> > issues in using the software and have never had to resort to a forum
such
> as
> > this.
> >
> > In the past a General note has been added describing details of same
sex
> > relationships where the parties are keen for this to be recorded.
> >
> > Over recent years same sex marriage have become legal in many
> > countries

> and
> > 3 families in my tree have such a marriage and understandably expect
> their
> > marriage to be treated as any other marriage which is required by law.

> One
> > such family has children with the same sex people legal parents. The
> next
> > family tree is due to be published in 6 weeks' time.
> >
> > Currently it is not possible to change the recorded sex of a spouse
all
> > report wording therefore records them wrongly as him or her, he or she.

> Can
> > anyone advise how they have worked around this problem please  other
> than
> > manually changing reports in a word processor before release.
> >
> > Best regards Stan Baker in Wellington New Zealand.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Jamie,

I know not everyone has MS Access, that's why I said in my initial reply to
Stan Baker, "If you need assistance with the work around, please send me a
message at supp...@legacyfamilytree.com."

Jim
Technical Support
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 Original Message 
> From: "Jamie Poindexter" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 10:21 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Jim Terry,
>
> Your article is fine if one has MS Access on their computer. Further,
> this article is getting close to being two years old.  I would hope that

> the folks that write the updates for Legacy would have had added support

> for same sex marriages long before now.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Jamie Poindexter
Jim Terry,

Your article is fine if one has MS Access on their computer. Further,
this article is getting close to being two years old.  I would hope that
the folks that write the updates for Legacy would have had added support
for same sex marriages long before now.

Jamie

On 8/26/2015 9:59 AM, Jim Terry/Support wrote:
> Sorry about the link. Try
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549 (without the period).
>
> Jim
> Technical Support
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>
>
>





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re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Sorry about the link. Try
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549 (without the period).

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: "Jim Terry/Support" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:52 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> Stan,
>
> Please see the support article "Same Sex Couples" at
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549. If you need
> assistance with the work around, please send me a message at
> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com.
>
> Jim
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>  Original Message 
> > From: "Stan Baker" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:19 AM
> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
> >
> > I am new to this mailing list so my apologies if it has been covered
> before.
> > I have been using Legacy for over 20 years and have a tree with about
> 7000
> > names including over 4000 living, most of which are recorded with full
> > contact details including email phone and physical addresses and
> occupation.
> > I am now using the latest version 8 but have not in the past
encountered
> any
> > issues in using the software and have never had to resort to a forum
such
> as
> > this.
> >
> > In the past a General note has been added describing details of same
sex
> > relationships where the parties are keen for this to be recorded.
> >
> > Over recent years same sex marriage have become legal in many countries

> and
> > 3 families in my tree have such a marriage and understandably expect
> their
> > marriage to be treated as any other marriage which is required by law.

> One
> > such family has children with the same sex people legal parents. The
> next
> > family tree is due to be published in 6 weeks' time.
> >
> > Currently it is not possible to change the recorded sex of a spouse
all
> > report wording therefore records them wrongly as him or her, he or she.

> Can
> > anyone advise how they have worked around this problem please  other
> than
> > manually changing reports in a word processor before release.
> >
> > Best regards Stan Baker in Wellington New Zealand.




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re: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Stan,

Please see the support article "Same Sex Couples" at
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549. If you need
assistance with the work around, please send me a message at
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
> From: "Stan Baker" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:19 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages
>
> I am new to this mailing list so my apologies if it has been covered
before.
> I have been using Legacy for over 20 years and have a tree with about
7000
> names including over 4000 living, most of which are recorded with full
> contact details including email phone and physical addresses and
occupation.
> I am now using the latest version 8 but have not in the past encountered
any
> issues in using the software and have never had to resort to a forum such
as
> this.
>
> In the past a General note has been added describing details of same sex
> relationships where the parties are keen for this to be recorded.
>
> Over recent years same sex marriage have become legal in many countries
and
> 3 families in my tree have such a marriage and understandably expect
their
> marriage to be treated as any other marriage which is required by law.
One
> such family has children with the same sex people legal parents. The
next
> family tree is due to be published in 6 weeks' time.
>
> Currently it is not possible to change the recorded sex of a spouse all
> report wording therefore records them wrongly as him or her, he or she.
Can
> anyone advise how they have worked around this problem please  other
than
> manually changing reports in a word processor before release.
>
> Best regards Stan Baker in Wellington New Zealand.




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[LegacyUG] Same sex Marriages

2015-08-26 Thread Stan Baker
I am new to this mailing list so my apologies if it has been covered before.
I have been using Legacy for over 20 years and have a tree with about 7000
names including over 4000 living, most of which are recorded with full
contact details including email phone and physical addresses and occupation.
I am now using the latest version 8 but have not in the past encountered any
issues in using the software and have never had to resort to a forum such as
this.

In the past a General note has been added describing details of same sex
relationships where the parties are keen for this to be recorded.

Over recent years same sex marriage have become legal in many countries and
3 families in my tree have such a marriage and understandably expect their
marriage to be treated as any other marriage which is required by law. One
such family has children with the same sex people legal parents. The next
family tree is due to be published in 6 weeks' time.

Currently it is not possible to change the recorded sex of a spouse all
report wording therefore records them wrongly as him or her, he or she.  Can
anyone advise how they have worked around this problem please  other than
manually changing reports in a word processor before release.

Best regards Stan Baker in Wellington New Zealand.


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