Re: [LegacyUG] TMG Importer

[Cathy Pinner]

Jamie,
Geoff Rasmussen answered this question today on the Legacy User Group
Facebook page - maybe not the answer you were wanting but it's still in
the pipeline.

Quoting: Can anyone tell me how Geoff and the gang are doing in
incoprorating The Master Genealogist import into Legacy. Doing a Gedcom
import is definitely not the answer. It has been more than a year now
since he announced they were working on that project.

Geoff Rasmussen: Larry - I think Ken has it done. I'm unsure of when/how
it will be released. It may have been incorporated into the next
version. That's all I know right now Larry.

Cathy

Jamie Poindexter wrote:
>
> Just checking, its been awhile since I last saw anything on this list
> and even longer since hearing that Legacy is working on an importer
> for data in The Master Genealogist.
>
> Getting anxious,
> Jamie





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[LegacyUG] TMG Importer

[Jamie Poindexter]

Just checking, its been awhile since I last saw anything on this list
and even longer since hearing that Legacy is working on an importer for
data in The Master Genealogist.

Getting anxious,
Jamie




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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG direct import cancelled?

[Sherry/Support]

All I can tell you is that the programmer is working on it. We have no
projected completion date but he is hoping to have it done for v9.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Bob Adams <1.bob.ad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Several of us would appreciate a response to the following inquiry.
>
> Thanks
>
> On 6/10/2015 7:49 AM, Bob Adams wrote:
>
> I responded to the message shown below volunteering to test a direct
> import of TMG data into Legacy.  I never received a response and have not 
> seen any further information regarding a TMG direct import.
>
> Is the development of a direct import still in progress or has the project 
> been cancelled?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob Adams
> *
> Sherry/Support Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:16:32 -0800
>
> The programmer is still working on the direct import.
>
> We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like to
> volunteer.
>
> Thanks for your interest in Legacy!
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
> *
>
>




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[LegacyUG] TMG direct import cancelled?

[Bob Adams]

Several of us would appreciate a response to the following inquiry.

Thanks

On 6/10/2015 7:49 AM, Bob Adams wrote:

I responded to the message shown below volunteering to test a direct
import of TMG data into Legacy.  I never received a response and have
not seen any further information regarding a TMG direct import.

Is the development of a direct import still in progress or has the
project been cancelled?

Thanks,
Bob Adams
*
Sherry/Support Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:16:32 -0800

The programmer is still working on the direct import.

We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like to
volunteer.

Thanks for your interest in Legacy!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
***




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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG direct import

[Jamie Poindexter]

I also volunteered several months ago and have heard nothing.  Status?

On 6/10/2015 7:49 AM, Bob Adams wrote:
> I responded to the message shown below volunteering to test a direct
> import of TMG data into Legacy.  I never received a response and have
> not seen any further information regarding a TMG direct import.
>
> Is the development of a direct import still in progress or has the
> project been cancelled?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob Adams
> *
> Sherry/Support Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:16:32 -0800
>
> The programmer is still working on the direct import.
>
> We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like to
> volunteer.
>
> Thanks for your interest in Legacy!
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
> ***
>
>





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[LegacyUG] TMG direct import

[Bob Adams]

I responded to the message shown below volunteering to test a direct
import of TMG data into Legacy.  I never received a response and have
not seen any further information regarding a TMG direct import.

Is the development of a direct import still in progress or has the
project been cancelled?

Thanks,
Bob Adams
*
Sherry/Support Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:16:32 -0800

The programmer is still working on the direct import.

We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like to
volunteer.

Thanks for your interest in Legacy!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Paula Ryburn]

Dawn,  Given the information you have shared, it might be that what you want to 
do is better handled by Legacy's TAGGING feature.  I don't remember how much 
"tagging" is covered in free Legacy's help file, but you might want to take a 
read there.  Colors can be "set" over and over again as you move people around 
in your ancestor tree.  --Paula



 From: Dawn Beeks 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:01 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



I'm A TMG user but now have to look for new home, since TMG will no longer be 
tech supported, just forum.
I've narrowed down to these 2 software programs and both have great features. I 
think it's coming down to the coloring features.  TMG has a slew of colors to 
choose from, for however you wanted to setup your lines, such as, non-related 
lines with same name, unknown lineages, adopted lines, lines from Europe, etc 
etc.
In Legacy, I’m not fully understanding the coloring system.  It seems line I 
can only do two color scheme in each project. I have one project with seven 
different lines of the same name.  I don’t want to make 7 projects because a 
lot of the people are in the wrong lines and I need to switch over into correct 
colored line.  Also I have only the standard Legacy, I haven’t bought the 
deluxe, so maybe you can do this but only in the deluxe level?
II read that Legacy is working with TMG to do a transfer file, will the color 
system be worked in, to be brought over?
Or has any TMG switched and found the color coding to be okay. I would hate to 
do this and find my coloring system gone.  TKS

·
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Jan Rogge]

How about a headshot framed with the desired color?

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:41 AM, "Bobby Johnson"  wrote:
>
> Ancestry.com does not have a color capability for its family trees. Here is 
> what one of its users came up with to overcome this lack of capability. In 
> the individual picture area, she used a blank colored background for a 
> picture. This is a method that could be used in Legacy. One could make the 
> preferred picture a colored background and it would be visible on the family 
> view and the pedigree view.
>
> The limitation I see here would be searching. There is no capability to 
> search using the preferred picture as a parameter
>
> I personally would not like this method because I would prefer to see a 
> headshot of the individual on the family view and pedigree view instead of a 
> color blotch. However, it might work for someone who is primarily interested 
> in showing DNA proven lineages.
>
> Bobby
>
> From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
>
> Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in 
> TMG J We now have to think outside the box.  I have bought both Legacy and 
> Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features.
>
> Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a person/ancestor and color 
> code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all 
> the descendents?  (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth 
> it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it?  That’s all I 
> need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color.  What am I missing in 
> doing this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I actually needed 
> 9 colors but I can adjust a line.
>
> If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring?  I tried 
> to do color a person but nothing happened.  I tried it on a couple of people 
> but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a 
> person.  Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again 
> how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways.
>
> I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like 
> Windows.
>
> OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably have to attend a 
> class to figure that one out.
>
> Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 
> people.
>
> Tks again
>
>
> Dawn Beeks
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Jan Rogge]

How about a headshot framed with the color?

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:41 AM, "Bobby Johnson"  wrote:
>
> Ancestry.com does not have a color capability for its family trees. Here is 
> what one of its users came up with to overcome this lack of capability. In 
> the individual picture area, she used a blank colored background for a 
> picture. This is a method that could be used in Legacy. One could make the 
> preferred picture a colored background and it would be visible on the family 
> view and the pedigree view.
>
> The limitation I see here would be searching. There is no capability to 
> search using the preferred picture as a parameter
>
> I personally would not like this method because I would prefer to see a 
> headshot of the individual on the family view and pedigree view instead of a 
> color blotch. However, it might work for someone who is primarily interested 
> in showing DNA proven lineages.
>
> Bobby
>
> From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
>
> Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in 
> TMG J We now have to think outside the box.  I have bought both Legacy and 
> Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features.
>
> Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a person/ancestor and color 
> code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all 
> the descendents?  (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth 
> it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it?  That’s all I 
> need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color.  What am I missing in 
> doing this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I actually needed 
> 9 colors but I can adjust a line.
>
> If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring?  I tried 
> to do color a person but nothing happened.  I tried it on a couple of people 
> but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a 
> person.  Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again 
> how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways.
>
> I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like 
> Windows.
>
> OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably have to attend a 
> class to figure that one out.
>
> Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 
> people.
>
> Tks again
>
>
> Dawn Beeks
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Bobby Johnson]

Ancestry.com does not have a color capability for its family trees. Here is 
what one of its users came up with to overcome this lack of capability. In the 
individual picture area, she used a blank colored background for a picture. 
This is a method that could be used in Legacy. One could make the preferred 
picture a colored background and it would be visible on the family view and the 
pedigree view.



The limitation I see here would be searching. There is no capability to search 
using the preferred picture as a parameter



I personally would not like this method because I would prefer to see a 
headshot of the individual on the family view and pedigree view instead of a 
color blotch. However, it might work for someone who is primarily interested in 
showing DNA proven lineages.



Bobby



From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG 
:) We now have to think outside the box.  I have bought both Legacy and Roots 
Magic 7 and playing with the features.



Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a person/ancestor and color 
code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the 
descendents?  (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) 
The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it?  That’s all I need 
to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color.  What am I missing in doing 
this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I actually needed 9 colors 
but I can adjust a line.



If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring?  I tried to 
do color a person but nothing happened.  I tried it on a couple of people but 
they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person.  
Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the 
computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways.



I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows.



OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably have to attend a 
class to figure that one out.



Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people.



Tks again





Dawn Beeks

dawnbe...@msn.com <mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com>




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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Nancy]

Thanks


Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 2, 2014, at 8:58 AM, singhals  wrote:
>
> Since most of us /aren't/ expert TMG users, we don't know
> what your TMG box looks like, acts like, or does.  Makes it
> more difficult to communicate meaningfully.
>
> Try the HELP file; click on HELP from the ribbon just under
> the name of the database.  Then click on INDEX and enter
> Customize.  Then click on COLORS then on Customize-View.
> Scroll down to 8.3.
>
> And if it insists on having an ancestor or descendant create
> Fake_Ancestor and/or Fake_Descendant and color-code from
> there.  Outsmarting the computer is a game and extra points
> for creativity while playing.
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
> Dawn Beeks wrote:
>> Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my
>> mind is trained in TMG JWe now have to think outside the
>> box.  I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and
>> playing with the features.
>>
>> Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a
>> person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down
>> that particular line and color code all the descendents?
>>  (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be
>> worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my
>> ancestor, is it?  That’s all I need to do, just pick 8
>> people and give them a color.  What am I missing in doing
>> this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I
>> actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line.
>>
>> If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the
>> coloring?  I tried to do color a person but nothing
>> happened.  I tried it on a couple of people but they all
>> stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input
>> a person.  Or would it not work because it wasn’t my
>> ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know
>> who my ancestor is anyways.
>>
>> I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it
>> operates/look more like Windows.
>>
>> OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably
>> have to attend a class to figure that one out.
>>
>> Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t
>> just pick 8 people.
>>
>> Tks again
>>
>> Dawn Beeks
>>
>> dawnbe...@msn.com
>>
>> *From:*CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 9:10 PM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
>> RootsMagic 7
>>
>> I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors,
>> since Legacy uses color only to identify 8 ancestral lines
>> of one person.
>>
>> It is s much easier to identify family groups by color
>> rather than by number or code; it involves no searches, and
>> that family group is always immediately obvious.
>>
>> This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for
>> Legacy, although I am not sure she can do that since she is
>> not using Legacy.
>>
>> It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific
>> families rather than merely one person's ancestral lines! It
>> would be immensely helpful to those who have many medieval
>> families with myriad branches that are very difficult to
>> keep straight.
>>
>>
>> CE
>>
>> 
>>
>> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800
>> From: genea...@gmail.com <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
>> RootsMagic 7
>>
>> Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours
>> rather than the original 4. There's more in the Help file
>> than what Sherry has quoted.
>>
>> This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG
>> if I understand you correctly.
>>
>> To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some
>> alternative such as a code in privacy brackets in the Suffix
>> field or the extremely complicated tag system suggested.
>>
>> Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I
>> wouldn't assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much
>> better to add a Private Event that you can search for and
>> create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that
>> particular thing.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>> Dawn Beeks wrote:
>>
>>
>> So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use
>> the ones
>>

Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[singhals]

Since most of us /aren't/ expert TMG users, we don't know
what your TMG box looks like, acts like, or does.  Makes it
more difficult to communicate meaningfully.

Try the HELP file; click on HELP from the ribbon just under
the name of the database.  Then click on INDEX and enter
Customize.  Then click on COLORS then on Customize-View.
Scroll down to 8.3.

And if it insists on having an ancestor or descendant create
Fake_Ancestor and/or Fake_Descendant and color-code from
there.  Outsmarting the computer is a game and extra points
for creativity while playing.

Cheryl



Dawn Beeks wrote:
> Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my
> mind is trained in TMG JWe now have to think outside the
> box.  I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and
> playing with the features.
>
> Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a
> person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down
> that particular line and color code all the descendents?
>   (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be
> worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my
> ancestor, is it?  That’s all I need to do, just pick 8
> people and give them a color.  What am I missing in doing
> this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I
> actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line.
>
> If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the
> coloring?  I tried to do color a person but nothing
> happened.  I tried it on a couple of people but they all
> stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input
> a person.  Or would it not work because it wasn’t my
> ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know
> who my ancestor is anyways.
>
> I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it
> operates/look more like Windows.
>
> OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably
> have to attend a class to figure that one out.
>
> Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t
> just pick 8 people.
>
> Tks again
>
> Dawn Beeks
>
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
> *From:*CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 9:10 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
> RootsMagic 7
>
> I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors,
> since Legacy uses color only to identify 8 ancestral lines
> of one person.
>
> It is s much easier to identify family groups by color
> rather than by number or code; it involves no searches, and
> that family group is always immediately obvious.
>
> This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for
> Legacy, although I am not sure she can do that since she is
> not using Legacy.
>
> It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific
> families rather than merely one person's ancestral lines! It
> would be immensely helpful to those who have many medieval
> families with myriad branches that are very difficult to
> keep straight.
>
>
> CE
>
> --------
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800
> From: genea...@gmail.com <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
> RootsMagic 7
>
> Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours
> rather than the original 4. There's more in the Help file
> than what Sherry has quoted.
>
> This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG
> if I understand you correctly.
>
> To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some
> alternative such as a code in privacy brackets in the Suffix
> field or the extremely complicated tag system suggested.
>
> Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I
> wouldn't assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much
> better to add a Private Event that you can search for and
> create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that
> particular thing.
>
> Cathy
>
> Dawn Beeks wrote:
>
>
> So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use
> the ones
> listed below. Or can I use more colors.
>
> Dawn B eeks
>
> 653 Pampas Place
>
> Sierra Vista, AZ 85635
>
> 520 249-5595
>
> dawnbe...@msn.com <mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com>
>
> *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
> RootsMagic 7
>
>> From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding
>

Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Nancy]

It looks like I could use 2 colors for one spouse, 2 for the other and 4 for 
myself. I also have info on my children's spouses. I suppose I could use a 
color for the 2 of them and limit mine to 2 lines as long as the total is no 
more than 8. Correct?

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 2, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Michele/Support  
> wrote:
>
> Dawn,
> Color coding is for ancestors not descendants.  You pick an anchor person and 
> then you can color code 4 or 8 of their ancestral lines.  (4 would be the 4 
> grandparent lines, 8 would be the 8 great-grandparent lines).  You can do 
> this with TWO anchor people.  Many people will color code their ancestral 
> line and then color code their spouses ancestral lines.
>
> You will see these colors in two places.  There will be a colored box on the 
> Family View and you can see it on the Pedigree View.  You can also have the 
> colors print on a Pedigree Chart.
>
> The two sets of eight colors has a default but you can change any or all of 
> the colors to what you want.   If you want me to send you some screen shots 
> that might explain this better just let me know.  I can’t send screenshots to 
> the list but I can send them to you directly.
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
> From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
>
> Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in 
> TMG J We now have to think outside the box.  I have bought both Legacy and 
> Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features.
>
> Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a person/ancestor and color 
> code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all 
> the descendents?  (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth 
> it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it?  That’s all I 
> need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color.  What am I missing in 
> doing this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I actually needed 
> 9 colors but I can adjust a line.
>
> If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring?  I tried 
> to do color a person but nothing happened.  I tried it on a couple of people 
> but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a 
> person.  Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again 
> how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways.
>
> I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like 
> Windows.
>
> OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably have to attend a 
> class to figure that one out.
>
> Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 
> people.
>
> Tks again
>
>
> Dawn Beeks
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Michele/Support]

Dawn,

Color coding is for ancestors not descendants.  You pick an anchor person and 
then you can color code 4 or 8 of their ancestral lines.  (4 would be the 4 
grandparent lines, 8 would be the 8 great-grandparent lines).  You can do this 
with TWO anchor people.  Many people will color code their ancestral line and 
then color code their spouses ancestral lines.



You will see these colors in two places.  There will be a colored box on the 
Family View and you can see it on the Pedigree View.  You can also have the 
colors print on a Pedigree Chart.



The two sets of eight colors has a default but you can change any or all of the 
colors to what you want.   If you want me to send you some screen shots that 
might explain this better just let me know.  I can’t send screenshots to the 
list but I can send them to you directly.



Michele

Technical Support

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com> www.legacyfamilytree.com



From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG 
:) We now have to think outside the box.  I have bought both Legacy and Roots 
Magic 7 and playing with the features.



Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a person/ancestor and color 
code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the 
descendents?  (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) 
The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it?  That’s all I need 
to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color.  What am I missing in doing 
this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I actually needed 9 colors 
but I can adjust a line.



If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring?  I tried to 
do color a person but nothing happened.  I tried it on a couple of people but 
they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person.  
Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the 
computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways.



I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows.



OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably have to attend a 
class to figure that one out.



Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people.



Tks again





Dawn Beeks

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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Dawn Beeks]

Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG 
J We now have to think outside the box.  I have bought both Legacy and Roots 
Magic 7 and playing with the features.



Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors.  If I pick a person/ancestor and color 
code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the 
descendents?  (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) 
The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it?  That’s all I need 
to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color.  What am I missing in doing 
this function.  If I can do this, then all is good.  I actually needed 9 colors 
but I can adjust a line.



If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring?  I tried to 
do color a person but nothing happened.  I tried it on a couple of people but 
they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person.  
Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the 
computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways.



I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows.



OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that.  I’d probably have to attend a 
class to figure that one out.



Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people.



Tks again





Dawn Beeks

dawnbe...@msn.com



From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 9:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors, since Legacy uses 
color only to identify 8 ancestral lines of one person.

It is s much easier to identify family groups by color rather than by 
number or code; it involves no searches, and that family group is always 
immediately obvious.

This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for Legacy, although I 
am not sure she can do that since she is not using Legacy.

It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific families rather than 
merely one person's ancestral lines! It would be immensely helpful to those who 
have many medieval families with myriad branches that are very difficult to 
keep straight.


CE


  _

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800
From: genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the original 
4.  There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted.

This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I understand you 
correctly.

To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a code 
in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely complicated tag system 
suggested.

Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't assign too 
many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a Private Event that you 
can search for and create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that 
particular thing.

Cathy

Dawn Beeks wrote:


So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones
listed below.  Or can I use more colors.

Dawn B eeks

653 Pampas Place

Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635

520 249-5595

dawnbe...@msn.com

*From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
*Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

>From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding

Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding
system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational
system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective
genealogy research.

The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots
of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate
direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many
generations.

As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until
they divided th e chart up into four quarters by color.

Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents.
All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same
color:

Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE

Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN

Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED

Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW

As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for
the current individual is shown on the /Family /and /Pedigree Views
/letting you quickly know what line you are looking at.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com%20%0b%3cmailto:dawnbe...@msn.com>
<mailto:dawnbe...

RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Alan Pereira]

You could try the userID field and display that field on the family page 
instead of RIN - using the same UserID for each group you want separated.
Options View 8.2

AlanP

-Original Message-
From: Barbara Levergood [mailto:leverg...@att.net]
Sent: 01 December 2014 16:40
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are trying 
to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is very hard 
sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new software, because 
it is often hard to think outside of the TMG "box", and because we have such 
long lists of workarounds we are trying to find. So, any feasible ideas are 
welcome! They may not work for all, but they may work for some.

For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with putting 
the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix.
The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix that I 
have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs (displayed as {11}). 
Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution is that those fields are 
searchable. So, I could search for all persons coded "(11)" or for all persons 
coded at all ("("). This is not a replacement for more tags (which can be set 
via Advanced Tagging), but it might be a feasible workaround for some.

Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a 9-bit 
binary number.  However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need to use only 4 
Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
Tags - 1234
Line 1 -  uuuT
Line 2 -  uuTu
Line 3 -  uuTT
Line 4 -  uTuu
Line 5 -  uTuT
Line 6 -  uTTu
Line 7 -  uTTT
Line 8 -  Tuuu
Line 9 -  TuuT
Line 10 - TuTu

This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in binary 
very quickly.

Barbara L.


On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote:
> I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.
>
> After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you don't really
> need *colors*, all you really need is a way to distinguish the 23 John
> Smith or Benedict Beek one from the other.
>
> In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix, both of
> which will display in the Name List as well as the family-view and
> pedigree view.  Pick one of 'em, and assign your color-lines a number
> -- me, I'd assign the line with the most people the #1; but you could
> assign Amber as #1 and Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc.
> The possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of the
> population can't distinguish anyway.
>
> If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can just ignore
> me.  Lots of people *DO*.
>
> Cheryl
> Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.
>
> Dawn Beeks wrote:
>> Barbara,
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Because I have 10 different lines of “beeks”, when they pop up, I
>> really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t have to follow
>> the line until I see someone familiar and say, oh it’s this line.
>> And people have said,  create 10 projects but that doesn’t allow me
>> to move the person easily to the supposedly correct line/project.  So
>> the color is the big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6
>> Johns and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
>>
>> When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or disappear?
>>
>> I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work.
>>
>> I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before I make
>> that final decision__
>>
>> Dawn Beeks
>>
>> 653 Pampas Place
>>
>> Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635
>>
>> 520 249-5595
>>
>> dawnbe...@msn.com
>>
>> *From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
>> RootsMagic 7
>>
>> Dawn,
>>
>> I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I looked
>> at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy as my main
>> program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls these "tagging")
>> and the lack of accent colors bothered me.
>> While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the accent
>> colors.
>>
>> The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full version has
>> nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want more, more, more.
>>
>> IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full program. That's
>> the only way that you'll se

Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Jenny M Benson]

On 01/12/2014 16:39, Barbara Levergood wrote:
> Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a
> 9-bit binary number.  However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need
> to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
> Tags - 1234
> Line 1 -  uuuT
> Line 2 -  uuTu
> Line 3 -  uuTT
> Line 4 -  uTuu
> Line 5 -  uTuT
> Line 6 -  uTTu
> Line 7 -  uTTT
> Line 8 -  Tuuu
> Line 9 -  TuuT
> Line 10 - TuTu

I started to compose a post saying that one could have dozens of Tags by
using them in combination, but then I abandoned the idea when I had
thought about it a bit more.  I realised that it would place severe
restrictions on how you could Search.

In the example above there are 3 different sets of people with Tag 1
set.  If one wanted to search for, say, all people tagged 1 AND a couple
of other conditions, one would have to "search the Search List" several
times in order to exclude all those who had other Tags set in addition
to 1 and fulfilled the other Search criteria.

I decided it was probably going to be more trouble than it was worth.

I do think much can be done with UserID though.  The simplest method
would be to use an initial letter for each line as either the whole
UserID or the first element of it.  I already do this with my database
where my UserIDs combine a prefix letter with the RIN.  The letters I
use are the initials of the surnames of my 4 grandparents, with another
set of letters for the later generations where the grandparent lines
have merged.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Sherry/Support]

You can change the colors. You don't have to use the default colors - those
are the ones that work with Mary's system that she devised. The full system
can be found at http://www.genrootsorganizer.com/

Please realize that the Mary E.V. Hill Ancestor Color Coding system isn't
necessarily for coloring lines but for coloring the ancestors of a specific
individual.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Dawn Beeks  wrote:

> So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed
> below.  Or can I use more colors.
>
>
>
> Dawn Beeks
>
> 653 Pampas Place
>
> Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635
>
> 520 249-5595
>
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
>
>
>
> From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding
>
> Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system
> used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps
> keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy
> research.
>
>  The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of
> collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line
> great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations.
>
>  As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they
> divided the chart up into four quarters by color.
>
>  Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All
> the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color:
>
>  Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE
>
> Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN
>
> Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED
>
> Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW
>
>
>
> As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the
> current individual is shown on the *Family *and *Pedigree Views *letting
> you quickly know what line you are looking at.
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[CE WOOD]

I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors, since Legacy uses 
color only to identify 8 ancestral lines of one person.

It is s much easier to identify family groups by color rather than by 
number or code; it involves no searches, and that family group is always 
immediately obvious.

This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for Legacy, although I 
am not sure she can do that since she is not using Legacy.

It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific families rather than 
merely one person's ancestral lines! It would be immensely helpful to those who 
have many medieval families with myriad branches that are very difficult to 
keep straight.

CE

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800
From: genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the original 
4.  There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted.



This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I understand you 
correctly.



To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a code 
in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely complicated tag system 
suggested.



Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't assign too 
many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a Private Event that you 
can search for and create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that 
particular thing.



Cathy



Dawn Beeks wrote:



So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones

listed below.  Or can I use more colors.



Dawn B
eeks



653 Pampas Place



Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635



520 249-5595



dawnbe...@msn.com



*From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]

*Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM

*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



>From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding



Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding

system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational

system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective

genealogy research.



The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots

of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate

direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many

generations.



As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until

they divided th
e chart up into four quarters by color.



Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents.

All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same

color:



Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE



Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN



Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED



Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW



As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for

the current individual is shown on the /Family /and /Pedigree Views

/letting you quickly know what line you are looking at.





Sincerely,

Sherry

Technical Support

Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com>> wrote:



Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project? So if I

have 4 lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t s
tart with the ancestor

and give each line a different color? I would want something like the

Beeks of VA to be Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow

and Beeks of SC, be red.



I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from.

Or am I not understanding something.



You can put me down for testing too



Dawn Beeks



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Cathy Pinner]

Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the
original 4. There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted.

This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I
understand you correctly.

To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a
code in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely
complicated tag system suggested.

Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't
assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a
Private Event that you can search for and create a Search list when you
need to concentrate on that particular thing.

Cathy

Dawn Beeks wrote:
>
> So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones
> listed below. Or can I use more colors.
>
> Dawn Beeks
>
> 653 Pampas Place
>
> Sierra Vista, AZ 85635
>
> 520 249-5595
>
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
> *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
>
> From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding
>
> Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding
> system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational
> system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective
> genealogy research.
>
> The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots
> of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate
> direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many
> generations.
>
> As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until
> they divided the chart up into four quarters by color.
>
> Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents.
> All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same
> color:
>
> Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE
>
> Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN
>
> Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED
>
> Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW
>
> As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for
> the current individual is shown on the /Family /and /Pedigree Views
> /letting you quickly know what line you are looking at.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks  <mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project? So if I
> have 4 lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t start with the ancestor
> and give each line a different color? I would want something like the
> Beeks of VA to be Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow
> and Beeks of SC, be red.
>
> I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from.
> Or am I not understanding something.
>
> You can put me down for testing too
>
> Dawn Beeks
>
> dawnbe...@msn.com <mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com>




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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Dawn Beeks]

So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed 
below.  Or can I use more colors.



Dawn Beeks

653 Pampas Place

Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635

520 249-5595

dawnbe...@msn.com



From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



>From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding

Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used 
in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your 
ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research.



The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of 
collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- 
and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations.



As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they 
divided the chart up into four quarters by color.



Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All the 
ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color:



Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE

Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN

Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED

Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW



As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the 
current individual is shown on the Family and Pedigree Views letting you 
quickly know what line you are looking at.






Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks  wrote:

Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project?  So if I have 4 
lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t start with the ancestor and give each 
line a different color?  I would want something like the Beeks of VA to be 
Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow and Beeks of SC, be red.



I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from.  Or am I 
not understanding something.



You can put me down for testing too



Dawn Beeks

dawnbe...@msn.com







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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Cathy Pinner]

¢â‚¬â„¢t allow me to move the person 
>>>> easily
>>>> to the supposedly correct line/project. So the color is the
>>>> big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6 Johns
>>>> and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
>>>>
>>>> When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or
>>>> disappear?
>>>>
>>>> I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t 
>>>> get it to
>>>> stay or work.
>>>>
>>>> I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before
>>>> I make that final decision__
>>>>
>>>> Dawn Beeks
>>>>
>>>> 653 Pampas Place
>>>>
>>>> Sierra Vista, AZ 85635
>>>>
>>>> 520 249-5595
>>>>
>>>> dawnbe...@msn.com
>>>>
>>>> *From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
>>>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
>>>> RootsMagic 7
>>>>
>>>> Dawn,
>>>>
>>>> I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I
>>>> looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy
>>>> as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls
>>>> these "tagging") and the lack of accent colors bothered me.
>>>> While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the
>>>> accent colors.
>>>>
>>>> The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full
>>>> version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want
>>>> more, more, more.
>>>>
>>>> IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full
>>>> program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's
>>>> functions and options.
>>>>
>>>> Barbara
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Sherry/Support]

>From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding

Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system
used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps
keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy
research.



The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of
collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line
great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations.



As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they
divided the chart up into four quarters by color.



Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All the
ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color:



Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE

Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN

Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED

Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW



As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the
current individual is shown on the *Family *and *Pedigree Views *letting
you quickly know what line you are looking at.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks  wrote:

> Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project?  So if I have
> 4 lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t start with the ancestor and give
> each line a different color?  I would want something like the Beeks of VA
> to be Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow and Beeks of SC, be
> red.
>
>
>
> I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from.  Or
> am I not understanding something.
>
>
>
> You can put me down for testing too
>
>
>
> Dawn Beeks
>
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
>
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Dawn Beeks]

Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project?  So if I have 4 
lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t start with the ancestor and give each 
line a different color?  I would want something like the Beeks of VA to be 
Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow and Beeks of SC, be red.



I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from.  Or am I 
not understanding something.



You can put me down for testing too



Dawn Beeks

dawnbe...@msn.com







From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:25 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



Got you down! Someone will contact you as soon as we're ready for the testing.




Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jamie Poindexter 
 wrote:

Sherry,

Do keep me in mind when it comes time to test the importer.

Jamie



On 12/1/2014 12:13 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:

The programmer is still working on the direct import.

We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like to 
volunteer.

Thanks for your interest in Legacy!




Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jamie Poindexter 
 wrote:

Dawn,

I, too, am looking at eventually moving from TMG to another program.  I came 
across the announcement a couple of months ago about Legacy building an import 
tool for TMG users.  I couldn't find any updates on its status so recently 
joined this forum in hopes of learning more about the tool's development.

Discussion I have had with Wholly Genes and with Second Site creator John 
Cardinal trend to suggest that TMG 9 will continue to function on Windows 
platforms for several years of advancements with the Windows platform.  So we 
don't have to rush to Legacy or another application, we have time for Legacy to 
fully develop the importer.  My goal is to be able to import TMG tables into a 
new application without going through a gedcom.  I fear the gedcom standard 
hasn't caught up to apps like TMG capabilities and we could loose or 
misidentify a lot of our TMG data importing to another app via a gedcom.

I'd like to hear more from Barbara on how she converted TMG to Legacy and was 
it an accurate transfer.  She blazed a trail I'm not ready to travel.  If we 
can learn from her and others where the potholes are on that path, we can 
experience a better transition.

I also use Second Site, the third party app to TMG for converting the data to 
html pages for my web site so our organization's members can access the tree.  
So any replacement to TMG must have a solution for converting to web pages.

Jamie Diana Poindexter, Research Committee co-chair & webmaster
Poindexter Descendants Association
www.poindexterfamily.org









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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[singhals]

Barbara Levergood wrote:
> Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are
> trying to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is
> very hard sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new
> software, because it is often hard to think outside of the TMG "box",
> and because we have such long lists of workarounds we are trying to
> find. So, any feasible ideas are welcome! They may not work for all, but
> they may work for some.

I tried TMG back in the (early) day ... decided my mind just
didn't run like that and I'd make myself crazy with it.  I
like to KISS it, and TMG wouldn't. :)  .

Sounds like your plan will work for you, but include me out
of learning to count in binary; if I did, next thing you
know, I'd be needing HEX ##.

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Sherry/Support]

Got you down! Someone will contact you as soon as we're ready for the
testing.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jamie Poindexter <
webmas...@poindexterfamily.org> wrote:

>  Sherry,
>
> Do keep me in mind when it comes time to test the importer.
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> On 12/1/2014 12:13 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
>
>  The programmer is still working on the direct import.
>
>  We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like
> to volunteer.
>
> Thanks for your interest in Legacy!
>
>  Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jamie Poindexter <
> webmas...@poindexterfamily.org> wrote:
>
>>  Dawn,
>>
>> I, too, am looking at eventually moving from TMG to another program.  I
>> came across the announcement a couple of months ago about Legacy building
>> an import tool for TMG users.  I couldn't find any updates on its status so
>> recently joined this forum in hopes of learning more about the tool's
>> development.
>>
>> Discussion I have had with Wholly Genes and with Second Site creator John
>> Cardinal trend to suggest that TMG 9 will continue to function on Windows
>> platforms for several years of advancements with the Windows platform.  So
>> we don't have to rush to Legacy or another application, we have time for
>> Legacy to fully develop the importer.  My goal is to be able to import TMG
>> tables into a new application without going through a gedcom.  I fear the
>> gedcom standard hasn't caught up to apps like TMG capabilities and we could
>> loose or misidentify a lot of our TMG data importing to another app via a
>> gedcom.
>>
>> I'd like to hear more from Barbara on how she converted TMG to Legacy and
>> was it an accurate transfer.  She blazed a trail I'm not ready to travel.
>> If we can learn from her and others where the potholes are on that path, we
>> can experience a better transition.
>>
>> I also use Second Site, the third party app to TMG for converting the
>> data to html pages for my web site so our organization's members can access
>> the tree.  So any replacement to TMG must have a solution for converting to
>> web pages.
>>
>> Jamie Diana Poindexter, Research Committee co-chair & webmaster
>> Poindexter Descendants Association
>> www.poindexterfamily.org
>>
>>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Jamie Poindexter]

Sherry,

Do keep me in mind when it comes time to test the importer.

Jamie



On 12/1/2014 12:13 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> The programmer is still working on the direct import.
>
> We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd
> like to volunteer.
>
> Thanks for your interest in Legacy!
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jamie Poindexter
>  > wrote:
>
> Dawn,
>
> I, too, am looking at eventually moving from TMG to another
> program.  I came across the announcement a couple of months ago
> about Legacy building an import tool for TMG users.  I couldn't
> find any updates on its status so recently joined this forum in
> hopes of learning more about the tool's development.
>
> Discussion I have had with Wholly Genes and with Second Site
> creator John Cardinal trend to suggest that TMG 9 will continue to
> function on Windows platforms for several years of advancements
> with the Windows platform.  So we don't have to rush to Legacy or
> another application, we have time for Legacy to fully develop the
> importer.  My goal is to be able to import TMG tables into a new
> application without going through a gedcom.  I fear the gedcom
> standard hasn't caught up to apps like TMG capabilities and we
> could loose or misidentify a lot of our TMG data importing to
> another app via a gedcom.
>
> I'd like to hear more from Barbara on how she converted TMG to
> Legacy and was it an accurate transfer.  She blazed a trail I'm
> not ready to travel.  If we can learn from her and others where
> the potholes are on that path, we can experience a better transition.
>
> I also use Second Site, the third party app to TMG for converting
> the data to html pages for my web site so our organization's
> members can access the tree.  So any replacement to TMG must have
> a solution for converting to web pages.
>
> Jamie Diana Poindexter, Research Committee co-chair & webmaster
> Poindexter Descendants Association
> www.poindexterfamily.org 
>
>
>
>




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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Mary Fowler Leek]

So sorry you are having to move your data (it is always a pain) and hope you 
can find a program that will work for you.

For your color code system, one work-a-round might be to recreate your color 
code and place it in double brackets, what Legacy calls privacy brackets, in a 
name field or suffix or prefix field. Anything placed in double brackets will 
not print unless you elect to print private info, yet will be visible on screen 
and you can search on it in the fields I mentioned.

A visual color would be the best, since it is easily noticed, but [[ Red ]]  or 
[[ Blue ]] or whatever would at least allow you to read the color name or a 
code system on screen.

You can elect to omit privacy info when creating a GEDCOM so this info would 
not be included or shared unless you elected to do so.

MEL



From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com]

Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

I'm A TMG user but now have to look for new home, since TMG will no longer be 
tech supported, just forum.
I've narrowed down to these 2 software programs and both have great features. I 
think it's coming down to the coloring features.  TMG has a slew of colors to 
choose from, for however you wanted to setup your lines, such as, non-related 
lines with same name, unknown lineages, adopted lines, lines from Europe, etc 
etc.
In Legacy, I’m not fully understanding the coloring system.  It seems line I 
can only do two color scheme in each project. I have one project with seven 
different lines of the same name.  I don’t want to make 7 projects because a 
lot of the people are in the wrong lines and I need to switch over into correct 
colored line.  Also I have only the standard Legacy, I haven’t bought the 
deluxe, so maybe you can do this but only in the deluxe level?
II read that Legacy is working with TMG to do a transfer file, will the color 
system be worked in, to be brought over?
Or has any TMG switched and found the color coding to be okay. I would hate to 
do this and find my coloring system gone.  TKS

·
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Sherry/Support]

The programmer is still working on the direct import.

We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like to
volunteer.

Thanks for your interest in Legacy!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jamie Poindexter <
webmas...@poindexterfamily.org> wrote:

>  Dawn,
>
> I, too, am looking at eventually moving from TMG to another program.  I
> came across the announcement a couple of months ago about Legacy building
> an import tool for TMG users.  I couldn't find any updates on its status so
> recently joined this forum in hopes of learning more about the tool's
> development.
>
> Discussion I have had with Wholly Genes and with Second Site creator John
> Cardinal trend to suggest that TMG 9 will continue to function on Windows
> platforms for several years of advancements with the Windows platform.  So
> we don't have to rush to Legacy or another application, we have time for
> Legacy to fully develop the importer.  My goal is to be able to import TMG
> tables into a new application without going through a gedcom.  I fear the
> gedcom standard hasn't caught up to apps like TMG capabilities and we could
> loose or misidentify a lot of our TMG data importing to another app via a
> gedcom.
>
> I'd like to hear more from Barbara on how she converted TMG to Legacy and
> was it an accurate transfer.  She blazed a trail I'm not ready to travel.
> If we can learn from her and others where the potholes are on that path, we
> can experience a better transition.
>
> I also use Second Site, the third party app to TMG for converting the data
> to html pages for my web site so our organization's members can access the
> tree.  So any replacement to TMG must have a solution for converting to web
> pages.
>
> Jamie Diana Poindexter, Research Committee co-chair & webmaster
> Poindexter Descendants Association
> www.poindexterfamily.org
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Jamie Poindexter]

Dawn,

I, too, am looking at eventually moving from TMG to another program.  I
came across the announcement a couple of months ago about Legacy
building an import tool for TMG users.  I couldn't find any updates on
its status so recently joined this forum in hopes of learning more about
the tool's development.

Discussion I have had with Wholly Genes and with Second Site creator
John Cardinal trend to suggest that TMG 9 will continue to function on
Windows platforms for several years of advancements with the Windows
platform.  So we don't have to rush to Legacy or another application, we
have time for Legacy to fully develop the importer. My goal is to be
able to import TMG tables into a new application without going through a
gedcom.  I fear the gedcom standard hasn't caught up to apps like TMG
capabilities and we could loose or misidentify a lot of our TMG data
importing to another app via a gedcom.

I'd like to hear more from Barbara on how she converted TMG to Legacy
and was it an accurate transfer.  She blazed a trail I'm not ready to
travel.  If we can learn from her and others where the potholes are on
that path, we can experience a better transition.

I also use Second Site, the third party app to TMG for converting the
data to html pages for my web site so our organization's members can
access the tree.  So any replacement to TMG must have a solution for
converting to web pages.

Jamie Diana Poindexter, Research Committee co-chair & webmaster
Poindexter Descendants Association
www.poindexterfamily.org



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Jerry]

I can't remember for sure, but I seem to recall that when you use
something in a prefix or suffix and export your file as a GEDCOM, the
suffix or prefix is included.  So, a numbering scheme, or a color-scheme
for your own benefit only, would possibly not be meaningful, once shared
with someone else or on the web...So, that's probably the reason
colors are not included as part of a GEDCOM transfer.  However, tags
usually come across on a GEDCOM as an event.  Someone correct me if that
is not accurate...   Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 12/1/2014 11:39 AM, Barbara Levergood wrote:
> Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are
> trying to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is
> very hard sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new
> software, because it is often hard to think outside of the TMG "box",
> and because we have such long lists of workarounds we are trying to
> find. So, any feasible ideas are welcome! They may not work for all, but
> they may work for some.
>
> For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with
> putting the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix.
> The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix
> that I have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs
> (displayed as {11}). Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution
> is that those fields are searchable. So, I could search for all persons
> coded "(11)" or for all persons coded at all ("("). This is not a
> replacement for more tags (which can be set via Advanced Tagging), but
> it might be a feasible workaround for some.
>
> Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a
> 9-bit binary number.  However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need
> to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
> Tags - 1234
> Line 1 -  uuuT
> Line 2 -  uuTu
> Line 3 -  uuTT
> Line 4 -  uTuu
> Line 5 -  uTuT
> Line 6 -  uTTu
> Line 7 -  uTTT
> Line 8 -  Tuuu
> Line 9 -  TuuT
> Line 10 - TuTu
>
> This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in
> binary very quickly.
>
> Barbara L.
>
>
> On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote:
>> I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.
>>
>> After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you
>> don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to
>> distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the
>> other.
>>
>> In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix,
>> both of which will display in the Name List as well as the
>> family-view and pedigree view.  Pick one of 'em, and assign
>> your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with
>> the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and
>> Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc.  The
>> possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of
>> the population can't distinguish anyway.
>>
>> If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can
>> just ignore me.  Lots of people *DO*.
>>
>> Cheryl
>> Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.
>>
>> Dawn Beeks wrote:
>>> Barbara,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Because I have 10 different lines of “beeks”, when they pop
>>> up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t
>>> have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and
>>> say, oh it’s this line.  And people have said,  create 10
>>> projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily
>>> to the supposedly correct line/project.  So the color is the
>>> big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6  Johns
>>> and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
>>>
>>> When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or
>>> disappear?
>>>
>>> I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or 
>>> work.
>>>
>>> I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before
>>> I make that final decision__
>>>
>>> Dawn Beeks
>>>
>>> 653 Pampas Place
>>>
>>> Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635
>>>
>>> 520 249-5595
>>>
>>> dawnbe...@msn.com
>>>
>>> *From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
>>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
>>> RootsMagic 

Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Barbara Levergood]

Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are
trying to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is
very hard sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new
software, because it is often hard to think outside of the TMG "box",
and because we have such long lists of workarounds we are trying to
find. So, any feasible ideas are welcome! They may not work for all, but
they may work for some.

For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with
putting the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix.
The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix
that I have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs
(displayed as {11}). Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution
is that those fields are searchable. So, I could search for all persons
coded "(11)" or for all persons coded at all ("("). This is not a
replacement for more tags (which can be set via Advanced Tagging), but
it might be a feasible workaround for some.

Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a
9-bit binary number.  However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need
to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
Tags - 1234
Line 1 -  uuuT
Line 2 -  uuTu
Line 3 -  uuTT
Line 4 -  uTuu
Line 5 -  uTuT
Line 6 -  uTTu
Line 7 -  uTTT
Line 8 -  Tuuu
Line 9 -  TuuT
Line 10 - TuTu

This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in
binary very quickly.

Barbara L.


On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote:
> I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.
>
> After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you
> don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to
> distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the
> other.
>
> In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix,
> both of which will display in the Name List as well as the
> family-view and pedigree view.  Pick one of 'em, and assign
> your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with
> the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and
> Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc.  The
> possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of
> the population can't distinguish anyway.
>
> If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can
> just ignore me.  Lots of people *DO*.
>
> Cheryl
> Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.
>
> Dawn Beeks wrote:
>> Barbara,
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Because I have 10 different lines of “beeks”, when they pop
>> up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t
>> have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and
>> say, oh it’s this line.  And people have said,  create 10
>> projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily
>> to the supposedly correct line/project.  So the color is the
>> big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6  Johns
>> and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
>>
>> When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or
>> disappear?
>>
>> I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work.
>>
>> I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before
>> I make that final decision__
>>
>> Dawn Beeks
>>
>> 653 Pampas Place
>>
>> Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635
>>
>> 520 249-5595
>>
>> dawnbe...@msn.com
>>
>> *From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
>> RootsMagic 7
>>
>> Dawn,
>>
>> I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I
>> looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy
>> as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls
>> these "tagging") and the lack of accent colors bothered me.
>> While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the
>> accent colors.
>>
>> The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full
>> version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want
>> more, more, more.
>>
>> IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full
>> program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's
>> functions and options.
>>
>> Barbara

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[singhals]

I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.

After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you
don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to
distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the
other.

In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix,
both of which will display in the Name List as well as the
family-view and pedigree view.  Pick one of 'em, and assign
your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with
the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and
Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc.  The
possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of
the population can't distinguish anyway.

If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can
just ignore me.  Lots of people *DO*.

Cheryl
Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.

Dawn Beeks wrote:
> Barbara,
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Because I have 10 different lines of “beeks”, when they pop
> up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t
> have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and
> say, oh it’s this line.  And people have said,  create 10
> projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily
> to the supposedly correct line/project.  So the color is the
> big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6  Johns
> and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
>
> When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or
> disappear?
>
> I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work.
>
> I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before
> I make that final decision__
>
> Dawn Beeks
>
> 653 Pampas Place
>
> Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635
>
> 520 249-5595
>
> dawnbe...@msn.com
>
> *From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
> RootsMagic 7
>
> Dawn,
>
> I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I
> looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy
> as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls
> these "tagging") and the lack of accent colors bothered me.
> While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the
> accent colors.
>
> The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full
> version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want
> more, more, more.
>
> IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full
> program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's
> functions and options.
>
> Barbara



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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Dawn Beeks]

Barbara,



Thanks for your input.



Because I have 10 different lines of “beeks”, when they pop up, I really need 
to see what line they are in, so I don’t have to follow the line until I see 
someone familiar and say, oh it’s this line.  And people have said,  create 10 
projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily to the supposedly 
correct line/project.  So the color is the big clincher for me, especially when 
I have 5 or 6  Johns and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J



When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or disappear?



I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work.



I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before I make that final 
decision



Dawn Beeks

653 Pampas Place

Sierra Vista,  AZ 85635

520 249-5595

dawnbe...@msn.com



From: karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



Dawn,

I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months.  I looked at the 
same programs that you have, but chose Legacy as my main program.  At first the 
lack of flags (Legacy calls these "tagging") and the lack of accent colors 
bothered me.  While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the 
accent colors.



The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full version has nine.  
Mine were assigned very quickly and I want more, more, more.



IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full program.  That's the only 
way that you'll see all of Legacy's functions and options.



Barbara







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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[karenhappuch]

Dawn,
I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months.  I looked at the 
same programs that you have, but chose Legacy as my main program.  At first the 
lack of flags (Legacy calls these "tagging") and the lack of accent colors 
bothered me.  While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the 
accent colors.

The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full version has nine.  
Mine were assigned very quickly and I want more, more, more.

IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full program.  That's the only 
way that you'll see all of Legacy's functions and options.

Barbara




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[LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

[Dawn Beeks]

I'm A TMG user but now have to look for new home, since TMG will no longer
be tech supported, just forum.

I've narrowed down to these 2 software programs and both have great
features. I think it's coming down to the coloring features.  TMG has a slew
of colors to choose from, for however you wanted to setup your lines, such
as, non-related lines with same name, unknown lineages, adopted lines, lines
from Europe, etc etc.

In Legacy, I'm not fully understanding the coloring system.  It seems line I
can only do two color scheme in each project. I have one project with seven
different lines of the same name.  I don't want to make 7 projects because a
lot of the people are in the wrong lines and I need to switch over into
correct colored line.  Also I have only the standard Legacy, I haven't
bought the deluxe, so maybe you can do this but only in the deluxe level?

II read that Legacy is working with TMG to do a transfer file, will the
color system be worked in, to be brought over?

Or has any TMG switched and found the color coding to be okay. I would hate
to do this and find my coloring system gone.  TKS



.

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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

[Sherry/Support]

Ken's working on it.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Stuart Armstrong 
wrote:

> The  Master  Genealogist,  a  favorite  genealogy program for many, is
> being  discontinued.  Does  Legacy  have  any plans to design a direct
> import from TMG ?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Stuartmailto:stuarta...@gmail.com
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

[Dale E O'Connor]

On 9/17 this email was on the List:

We are working on a direct import of TMG files.  So, I recommend waiting
for that to bring your real data into Legacy.  In the meantime you can
play around with Legacy and get to know it some.

Thanks,

Ken McGinnis
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On 9/23/2014 7:16 PM, Stuart Armstrong wrote:
> The  Master  Genealogist,  a  favorite  genealogy program for many, is
> being  discontinued.  Does  Legacy  have  any plans to design a direct
> import from TMG ?
>




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[LegacyUG] TMG

[Stuart Armstrong]

The  Master  Genealogist,  a  favorite  genealogy program for many, is
being  discontinued.  Does  Legacy  have  any plans to design a direct
import from TMG ?

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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[Dale E O'Connor]

Thanks Brett.

I think I will wait and see how well the direct import works that Ken
McGinnis says they are working on.

I just hope it isn't to long before it is released.

After trying a GEDCOM I did a repair and got an error on the file.

Dale

On 9/17/2014 4:13 AM, Brett McL Robinson wrote:
> Hi Dale
>
> Further to Wendy, many years ago I went through a difficult move to
> Legacy. My suggestions for any difficult gedcom transfer where you need
> to get hands-on:
>
> 1Do what you can to get the data across with mapping the fields
> during the export/import process (customising where data in the source
> goes in the target for the non-standard fields).
>
> 2If necessary set up test files with the field name entered as the
> text in the respective field in the test files, so that it is clear
> where the data is going from and to. Do this for both the source and the
> target software
>
> 3Open a test gedcom from both the source software and the target
> software to find out what codes are used for the fields. Open the
> gedcoms in a text editor (eg Notepad or Word) to see the structure.
>
> 4If necessary you can use find-and-replace in the text editor to
> change the field names so that the gedcom process gives you the correct
> results. This is simple if the fields are to change directly from one
> code to another, or to combine several into one. However it can also be
> done one item at a time if you want to split a source field code into
> two in the target software (you need to tap "yes" or "no" for every item
> as the find-and-replace progresses, but you don't enter any new data).
>
>
> Cheers, Brett
>
> On 24/08/2014 11:13 a.m., Wendy Howard wrote:
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Something else to consider - is your database small enough that
>> re-typing all your data from scratch is feasible? It might be that
>> taking such a close look at it all will lead you to new discoveries, and
>> perhaps weeding out mistakes that had been made before. I'd consider
>> doing that if it were only a few hundred or a thousand people (I'm a
>> quick typist), but not if I were looking at tens or hundreds of
>> thousands or more. Only you can answer that, knowing what's in your
>> database already and your own skills.
>>
>> Hope this helps. :-)
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>> Dale E O'Connor said the following on 24/08/2014 06:49:
>>> I have TMG 7.04 and Windows 7.
>>>
>>> Do you have any tips on settings for GEDCOM export/import?
>>>
>>> Did you loose any data?  How did you get the data that was lost from TMG
>>> to Legacy?
>>>
>>> Is there anything else I need to look for?
>>>
>>> Can you point me to a website that already has instructions on switching?
>>>
>>> Since most people on this list want be interested in this topic you can
>>> reply off list.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[KenMcGinnis]

We are working on a direct import of TMG files.  So, I recommend waiting
for that to bring your real data into Legacy.  In the meantime you can play
around with Legacy and get to know it some.

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 From: "Brett McL Robinson" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:30 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

Hi Dale

Further to Wendy, many years ago I went through a difficult move to
Legacy. My suggestions for any difficult gedcom transfer where you need
to get hands-on:

1Do what you can to get the data across with mapping the fields
during the export/import process (customising where data in the source
goes in the target for the non-standard fields).

2If necessary set up test files with the field name entered as the
text in the respective field in the test files, so that it is clear
where the data is going from and to. Do this for both the source and the
target software

3Open a test gedcom from both the source software and the target
software to find out what codes are used for the fields. Open the
gedcoms in a text editor (eg Notepad or Word) to see the structure.

4If necessary you can use find-and-replace in the text editor to
change the field names so that the gedcom process gives you the correct
results. This is simple if the fields are to change directly from one
code to another, or to combine several into one. However it can also be
done one item at a time if you want to split a source field code into
two in the target software (you need to tap "yes" or "no" for every item
as the find-and-replace progresses, but you don't enter any new data).

Cheers, Brett

On 24/08/2014 11:13 a.m., Wendy Howard wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
> ...
>
> Something else to consider - is your database small enough that
> re-typing all your data from scratch is feasible? It might be that
> taking such a close look at it all will lead you to new discoveries, and
> perhaps weeding out mistakes that had been made before. I'd consider
> doing that if it were only a few hundred or a thousand people (I'm a
> quick typist), but not if I were looking at tens or hundreds of
> thousands or more. Only you can answer that, knowing what's in your
> database already and your own skills.
>
> Hope this helps. :-)
>
> Wendy
>
> Dale E O'Connor said the following on 24/08/2014 06:49:
>> I have TMG 7.04 and Windows 7.
>>
>> Do you have any tips on settings for GEDCOM export/import?
>>
>> Did you loose any data?  How did you get the data that was lost from
TMG
>> to Legacy?
>>
>> Is there anything else I need to look for?
>>
>> Can you point me to a website that already has instructions on
switching?
>>
>> Since most people on this list want be interested in this topic you can
>> reply off list.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dale
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[Brett McL Robinson]

Hi Dale

Further to Wendy, many years ago I went through a difficult move to
Legacy. My suggestions for any difficult gedcom transfer where you need
to get hands-on:

1Do what you can to get the data across with mapping the fields
during the export/import process (customising where data in the source
goes in the target for the non-standard fields).

2If necessary set up test files with the field name entered as the
text in the respective field in the test files, so that it is clear
where the data is going from and to. Do this for both the source and the
target software

3Open a test gedcom from both the source software and the target
software to find out what codes are used for the fields. Open the
gedcoms in a text editor (eg Notepad or Word) to see the structure.

4If necessary you can use find-and-replace in the text editor to
change the field names so that the gedcom process gives you the correct
results. This is simple if the fields are to change directly from one
code to another, or to combine several into one. However it can also be
done one item at a time if you want to split a source field code into
two in the target software (you need to tap "yes" or "no" for every item
as the find-and-replace progresses, but you don't enter any new data).


Cheers, Brett

On 24/08/2014 11:13 a.m., Wendy Howard wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
> ...
>
> Something else to consider - is your database small enough that
> re-typing all your data from scratch is feasible? It might be that
> taking such a close look at it all will lead you to new discoveries, and
> perhaps weeding out mistakes that had been made before. I'd consider
> doing that if it were only a few hundred or a thousand people (I'm a
> quick typist), but not if I were looking at tens or hundreds of
> thousands or more. Only you can answer that, knowing what's in your
> database already and your own skills.
>
> Hope this helps. :-)
>
> Wendy
>
> Dale E O'Connor said the following on 24/08/2014 06:49:
>> I have TMG 7.04 and Windows 7.
>>
>> Do you have any tips on settings for GEDCOM export/import?
>>
>> Did you loose any data?  How did you get the data that was lost from TMG
>> to Legacy?
>>
>> Is there anything else I need to look for?
>>
>> Can you point me to a website that already has instructions on switching?
>>
>> Since most people on this list want be interested in this topic you can
>> reply off list.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dale
>>




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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[Dan]

Dale and Wendy and others,

I chose not to import a Gedcom of my TMG data base into Legacy for a couple
of reasons.  Firstly, when I began using TMG, I did not know what I was
doing and consequently a lot of what I entered was pretty messy - so by
reentering each individual I could clean up those errors.  Secondly, it
seemed to me that Legacy had a pretty steep learning curve and by going
through the reentering process I would learn how to use Legacy.  And
finally, as Wendy said, it rekindled my interest in some ancestors I hadn't
looked at for a long time (I have over 5000 in my data base) and I was able
to add some interesting information.  And, as a side note, chopping those
5000 individuals into more manageable chunks will, I believe, be an added
benefit.

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:13 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

Hi Dale,

It doesn't matter how many people reading the LUG are interested in your
query, or not - the fact remains that your questions pertain to Legacy,
and so are on-topic and welcome here. Replying on-list means the
conversation will be archived, so others coming along later can discover
the information shared here and perhaps answer their questions, too. :-)

I've never used TMG. But, because I read this mailing list, I'm aware
that there is a page on the Legacy web site to assist with importing
data from other programs. Take a look at
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00890/ - while it doesn't
specifically mention TMG (as far as I've seen with a quick look - you
might like to make a closer examination of it), you may find some useful
advice all the same.

I got to that page by going to http://legacyfamilytree.com/ and then
hovering the cursor over "Help Centre" in the menu at the top of the
page, and then selecting "How to import files from other programs" in
the drop-down menu that appeared.

You may be able to find more specific advice about importing from TMG
from the list archives - see the link at the bottom of every list post.
Try search terms like 'tmg' and 'export', without the quotes, which I've
used here to identify the search criteria; capital letters should not
matter.

It might be that you will need to export and/or import more than once to
iron out any problems you encounter. That's okay, don't stress about it.
Make notes about the selections you choose each time, so you can learn
from the results.

And if you are still having problems once you've taken in all the advice
offered, do contact Legacy Support for assistance - they're really
helpful people.

Something else to consider - is your database small enough that
re-typing all your data from scratch is feasible? It might be that
taking such a close look at it all will lead you to new discoveries, and
perhaps weeding out mistakes that had been made before. I'd consider
doing that if it were only a few hundred or a thousand people (I'm a
quick typist), but not if I were looking at tens or hundreds of
thousands or more. Only you can answer that, knowing what's in your
database already and your own skills.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Dale E O'Connor said the following on 24/08/2014 06:49:
> I have TMG 7.04 and Windows 7.
>
> Do you have any tips on settings for GEDCOM export/import?
>
> Did you loose any data?  How did you get the data that was lost from TMG
> to Legacy?
>
> Is there anything else I need to look for?
>
> Can you point me to a website that already has instructions on switching?
>
> Since most people on this list want be interested in this topic you can
> reply off list.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dale



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[Dale E O'Connor]

It does mention TMG.  They are out of order.

I will try searching the archives.

Thanks,

Dale

On 8/23/2014 6:13 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> there is a page on the Legacy web site to assist with importing
> data from other programs. Take a look at
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00890/ - while it doesn't
> specifically mention TMG (as far as I've seen with a quick look - you
> might like to make a closer examination of it), you may find some useful
> advice all the same.
>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[Dale E O'Connor]

Thanks.

I have over 4000 in my database.

Dale

On 8/23/2014 6:13 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
> It doesn't matter how many people reading the LUG are interested in your
> query, or not - the fact remains that your questions pertain to Legacy,
>
>
>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Dale,

It doesn't matter how many people reading the LUG are interested in your
query, or not - the fact remains that your questions pertain to Legacy,
and so are on-topic and welcome here. Replying on-list means the
conversation will be archived, so others coming along later can discover
the information shared here and perhaps answer their questions, too. :-)

I've never used TMG. But, because I read this mailing list, I'm aware
that there is a page on the Legacy web site to assist with importing
data from other programs. Take a look at
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00890/ - while it doesn't
specifically mention TMG (as far as I've seen with a quick look - you
might like to make a closer examination of it), you may find some useful
advice all the same.

I got to that page by going to http://legacyfamilytree.com/ and then
hovering the cursor over "Help Centre" in the menu at the top of the
page, and then selecting "How to import files from other programs" in
the drop-down menu that appeared.

You may be able to find more specific advice about importing from TMG
from the list archives - see the link at the bottom of every list post.
Try search terms like 'tmg' and 'export', without the quotes, which I've
used here to identify the search criteria; capital letters should not
matter.

It might be that you will need to export and/or import more than once to
iron out any problems you encounter. That's okay, don't stress about it.
Make notes about the selections you choose each time, so you can learn
from the results.

And if you are still having problems once you've taken in all the advice
offered, do contact Legacy Support for assistance - they're really
helpful people.

Something else to consider - is your database small enough that
re-typing all your data from scratch is feasible? It might be that
taking such a close look at it all will lead you to new discoveries, and
perhaps weeding out mistakes that had been made before. I'd consider
doing that if it were only a few hundred or a thousand people (I'm a
quick typist), but not if I were looking at tens or hundreds of
thousands or more. Only you can answer that, knowing what's in your
database already and your own skills.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Dale E O'Connor said the following on 24/08/2014 06:49:
> I have TMG 7.04 and Windows 7.
>
> Do you have any tips on settings for GEDCOM export/import?
>
> Did you loose any data?  How did you get the data that was lost from TMG
> to Legacy?
>
> Is there anything else I need to look for?
>
> Can you point me to a website that already has instructions on switching?
>
> Since most people on this list want be interested in this topic you can
> reply off list.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dale



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[LegacyUG] TMG users who switched to Legacy

[Dale E O'Connor]

I have TMG 7.04 and Windows 7.

Do you have any tips on settings for GEDCOM export/import?

Did you loose any data?  How did you get the data that was lost from TMG
to Legacy?

Is there anything else I need to look for?

Can you point me to a website that already has instructions on switching?

Since most people on this list want be interested in this topic you can
reply off list.

Thanks in advance,

Dale





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