RE: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-27 Thread Marianne Szabo 
Thank you  Marianne



From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:37 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files



Hi Marianne,

I don't know whether you saw the very brief answer provided or whether it was 
helpful if you did see it.
You added your question to an existing thread which has been further highjacked.

The answer is to Merge them.
If you knew how to do that, you wouldn't have asked your question.

The alternative to merging in this instance is just copy the source to the 
source clipboard - on the Assigned Sources page you'll find a copy button 
bottom left which copies the highlighted source with the source details to the 
Source Clipboard and paste it to Petrus - and add an AKA for Petrus. Then 
delete Peter.

However, I'd practice merging as it's likely you will find the same issue again.

Tools - Merge - Manual Merge

Before you do the merge
1) backup your file
2) take note of the RINs of the people you want to merge.
3) with Petrus highlighted, open the merge screen as above.
4) use the Select Right to find Peter
5) check the options for information that is different by choosing the radio 
button next to information you want to keep.
6) Note that the alternate data doesn't need to be lost. eg: You can opt to add 
Peter to the AKAs of Petrus by clicking the black square next to Given Name and 
choosing "Copy the name on the right to Alternate names."
You'll find options under that black square when you are wanting to preserve 
other differing data.
7) When everything has been checked - including on the various tabs that have 
an asterisk, click "Merge Right Individual into Left Individual" button
Done

Cathy

Jay Wilpolt wrote:




Merge them

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Marianne Szabo mailto:msz...@mindspring.com%20%0b%3cmailto:msz...@mindspring.com>
<mailto:msz...@mindspring.com>> wrote:

I truncated your last message to include only the paragraph of
interest.

__ __

I found an “unlinked” person “Peter Krysten” in his own tree  with
an RIN of 56.  When I checked the source I realized it’s my
maternal grandmother’s brother and I used her obituary to provide
his name.  He also appears as Petrus Paulus Krzstyen in my main
family tree, but not with this source.  How do I get him out of
“his” tree and get the info from the obit into the main family
tree, without messing everything up and losing something.  I’m
still using Legacy 7.5.0.219.  Marianne



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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Cathy Pinner 
Hi Marianne,

I don't know whether you saw the very brief answer provided or whether
it was helpful if you did see it.
You added your question to an existing thread which has been further
highjacked.

The answer is to Merge them.
If you knew how to do that, you wouldn't have asked your question.

The alternative to merging in this instance is just copy the source to
the source clipboard - on the Assigned Sources page you'll find a copy
button bottom left which copies the highlighted source with the source
details to the Source Clipboard and paste it to Petrus - and add an AKA
for Petrus. Then delete Peter.

However, I'd practice merging as it's likely you will find the same
issue again.

Tools - Merge - Manual Merge

Before you do the merge
1) backup your file
2) take note of the RINs of the people you want to merge.
3) with Petrus highlighted, open the merge screen as above.
4) use the Select Right to find Peter
5) check the options for information that is different by choosing the
radio button next to information you want to keep.
6) Note that the alternate data doesn't need to be lost. eg: You can opt
to add Peter to the AKAs of Petrus by clicking the black square next to
Given Name and choosing "Copy the name on the right to Alternate names."
You'll find options under that black square when you are wanting to
preserve other differing data.
7) When everything has been checked - including on the various tabs that
have an asterisk, click "Merge Right Individual into Left Individual" button
Done

Cathy

Jay Wilpolt wrote:
>
> Merge them
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Marianne Szabo  > wrote:
>
> I truncated your last message to include only the paragraph of
> interest.
>
> __ __
>
> I found an “unlinked” person “Peter Krysten” in his own tree with
> an RIN of 56. When I checked the source I realized it’s my
> maternal grandmother’s brother and I used her obituary to provide
> his name. He also appears as Petrus Paulus Krzstyen in my main
> family tree, but not with this source. How do I get him out of
> “his” tree and get the info from the obit into the main family
> tree, without messing everything up and losing something. I’m
> still using Legacy 7.5.0.219. Marianne




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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Adrian Purkiss 
Mine does 6 too but only 2 files can be opened. Version 8.0.0.501. Depends on 
the size of the screen whether its usable or not.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

My Help file for the release build says 2 screens and that's all I get
so I don't know what's going on with your install.  You can either
contact Support or just be glad you can do six screens - how anyone
can see those is beyond me!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:
> Hi Sherry,
>
> Thanks for the great advice.
>
> I did a retest the Family File in Split Screen and I can still do six. The 
> Help file which still indicates 6 screens. I didn't try it with six different 
> family files.
>
> I'm using version 8.0.0.501
>
> Bob

>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Sherry/Support 
My Help file for the release build says 2 screens and that's all I get
so I don't know what's going on with your install.  You can either
contact Support or just be glad you can do six screens - how anyone
can see those is beyond me!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:
> Hi Sherry,
>
> Thanks for the great advice.
>
> I did a retest the Family File in Split Screen and I can still do six. The 
> Help file which still indicates 6 screens. I didn't try it with six different 
> family files.
>
> I'm using version 8.0.0.501
>
> Bob

>




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RE: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Bob Austen 
Hi Sherry,

Thanks for the great advice.

I did a retest the Family File in Split Screen and I can still do six. The Help 
file which still indicates 6 screens. I didn't try it with six different family 
files.

I'm using version 8.0.0.501

Bob

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From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:57 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

It did in previous versions. The maximum is 2 now. It did open three windows 
but it would only duplicate the file I started with.

The closer you get to the 2 GB, the greater the chances of running into 
problems when doing some of the calculations. Access needs some room to work 
in

My suggestion would be to split the file, groups and individuals not linked to 
your Family File, clean it up to remove strange unknown entries that can show 
up from gedcom imports and do regular File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair 
and then the additional Compact Family File.  Make sure your Master Lists are 
clean with no duplicates in them and it's probably best to not hang on to 
sources, locations and surnames that aren't in use. Purge those Master Lists.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bob Austen  wrote:
>
> Hi Sherry,
>
> Thanks for the heads up on the file size.  I'm at 1.2 GB but I guess that 
> still gives me lots of room to grow.
>
> By the way, I believe Split Screen allows for up to six Family Files at one 
> time - or different views of the same Family File.
>
> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Jay Wilpolt 
Merge them

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Marianne Szabo 
wrote:

> I truncated your last message to include only the paragraph of interest.
>
>
>
> I found an “unlinked” person “Peter Krysten” in his own tree  with an RIN
> of 56.  When I checked the source I realized it’s my maternal grandmother’s
> brother and I used her obituary to provide his name.  He also appears as
> Petrus Paulus Krzstyen in my main family tree, but not with this source.
> How do I get him out of “his” tree and get the info from the obit into the
> main family tree, without messing everything up and losing something.  I’m
> still using Legacy 7.5.0.219.  Marianne
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2015 9:58 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files
>
>
>
> You can have any number of unlinked groups or individuals within a
> specific Family File.  However, that can get confusing.  Go to View > Trees
> to see all the unlinked groups and individuals in your Family File.
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Marianne Szabo 
I truncated your last message to include only the paragraph of interest.



I found an “unlinked” person “Peter Krysten” in his own tree  with an RIN of 
56.  When I checked the source I realized it’s my maternal grandmother’s 
brother and I used her obituary to provide his name.  He also appears as Petrus 
Paulus Krzstyen in my main family tree, but not with this source.  How do I get 
him out of “his” tree and get the info from the obit into the main family tree, 
without messing everything up and losing something.  I’m still using Legacy 
7.5.0.219.  Marianne



From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files



You can have any number of unlinked groups or individuals within a specific 
Family File.  However, that can get confusing.  Go to View > Trees to see all 
the unlinked groups and individuals in your Family File.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread OB 
Thank you, Sherry.  Sorry my question was unclear but I believe you answered 
it.  I want to set up a few generations of a friend’s family to get her started 
so she sees possibilities—but it would be a file totally unrelated to mine and 
have its own file name.

> On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Sherry/Support  
> wrote:
>
> It did in previous versions. The maximum is 2 now. It did open three
> windows but it would only duplicate the file I started with.
>
> The closer you get to the 2 GB, the greater the chances of running
> into problems when doing some of the calculations. Access needs some
> room to work in
>
> My suggestion would be to split the file, groups and individuals not
> linked to your Family File, clean it up to remove strange unknown
> entries that can show up from gedcom imports and do regular File >
> File Maintenance > Check/Repair and then the additional Compact Family
> File.  Make sure your Master Lists are clean with no duplicates in
> them and it's probably best to not hang on to sources, locations and
> surnames that aren't in use. Purge those Master Lists.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bob Austen  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sherry,
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up on the file size.  I'm at 1.2 GB but I guess that 
>> still gives me lots of room to grow.
>>
>> By the way, I believe Split Screen allows for up to six Family Files at one 
>> time - or different views of the same Family File.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Sherry/Support 
It did in previous versions. The maximum is 2 now. It did open three
windows but it would only duplicate the file I started with.

The closer you get to the 2 GB, the greater the chances of running
into problems when doing some of the calculations. Access needs some
room to work in

My suggestion would be to split the file, groups and individuals not
linked to your Family File, clean it up to remove strange unknown
entries that can show up from gedcom imports and do regular File >
File Maintenance > Check/Repair and then the additional Compact Family
File.  Make sure your Master Lists are clean with no duplicates in
them and it's probably best to not hang on to sources, locations and
surnames that aren't in use. Purge those Master Lists.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bob Austen  wrote:
>
> Hi Sherry,
>
> Thanks for the heads up on the file size.  I'm at 1.2 GB but I guess that 
> still gives me lots of room to grow.
>
> By the way, I believe Split Screen allows for up to six Family Files at one 
> time - or different views of the same Family File.
>
> Bob




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RE: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Bob Austen 
Hi Sherry,



Thanks for the heads up on the file size.  I'm at 1.2 GB but I guess that still 
gives me lots of room to grow.



By the way, I believe Split Screen allows for up to six Family Files at one 
time - or different views of the same Family File.



Bob



From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files



Since I'm not quite sure of your question - how many different Family Files can 
you have or how many separate families in one file - I'm answering it both ways.

You can have as many different Family Files as you want.  Unless you're using 
Split Screen (View ribbon), you can have only one open at a time. Split Screen 
lets you open two files at the same time.

You can have any number of unlinked groups or individuals within a specific 
Family File.  However, that can get confusing.  Go to View > Trees to see all 
the unlinked groups and individuals in your Family File.

The only limit to how many individuals you can have in a file is a limit set by 
Access of a file size no larger than 2 GB. I've seen files with over 1 million 
individuals that weren't even close to the limit and files with just over 
500,000 individuals that were pretty darn close. It all depends on how much 
other information you have added.






Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:38 AM, OB  wrote:

Is it possible to have two unrelated family files in Legacy?  I have always 
only had my own, but now would like to set up a family file for a friend. Thank 
you.







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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Jay Wilpolt 
Jenny,

I have 1 file in Legacy that has one 'connected' group of 150,000, and also
over 12,000 other 'trees' of yet unconnected (but many probably related)



On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Jenny M Benson 
wrote:

>  On 26/06/2015 14:38, OB wrote:
>
> Is it possible to have two unrelated family files in Legacy?  I have always 
> only had my own, but now would like to set up a family file for a friend.
>
>  Don't know if there is actually a limit (I doubt it) - you can certain
> have a lot more than 2 (or 3 if you've got the Sample file as well as your
> own).
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Sherry/Support 
Since I'm not quite sure of your question - how many different Family Files
can you have or how many separate families in one file - I'm answering it
both ways.

You can have as many different Family Files as you want.  Unless you're
using Split Screen (View ribbon), you can have only one open at a time.
Split Screen lets you open two files at the same time.

You can have any number of unlinked groups or individuals within a specific
Family File.  However, that can get confusing.  Go to View > Trees to see
all the unlinked groups and individuals in your Family File.

The only limit to how many individuals you can have in a file is a limit
set by Access of a file size no larger than 2 GB. I've seen files with over
1 million individuals that weren't even close to the limit and files with
just over 500,000 individuals that were pretty darn close. It all depends
on how much other information you have added.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:38 AM, OB  wrote:

> Is it possible to have two unrelated family files in Legacy?  I have
> always only had my own, but now would like to set up a family file for a
> friend. Thank you.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread Jenny M Benson 

  
  
On 26/06/2015 14:38, OB wrote:


  Is it possible to have two unrelated family files in Legacy?  I have always only had my own, but now would like to set up a family file for a friend. 

Don't know if there is actually a limit (I doubt it) - you can certain have a lot
more than 2 (or 3 if you've got the Sample file as well as your
own).

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[LegacyUG] Two Unrelated Family Files

2015-06-26 Thread OB 
Is it possible to have two unrelated family files in Legacy?  I have always 
only had my own, but now would like to set up a family file for a friend. Thank 
you.



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