Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
Ron, We already display the name of the other spouse following the child's name when showing half kids in family view. Isn't that enough to show that the child is not biological to both the current parents? Or do you mean where a child is adopted and is not the product of any previous union of one of the parents? If that is what you mean make a suggestion. Suggestions on this list are seldom, if ever, translated into recorded suggestions in our enhancements list. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 22 Feb 2014 6:56 PM, Ron Taylor wrote: snip Millennia...please make it optionally possible to display the Relationship to Parent status. Perhaps a symbol that would indicate that the child is not biological from both parents of the marriage to distinguish from the children that are. Then, thinking even further ahead, make it possible to click on that symbol to jump directly to the biological parents group sheet. Ron Taylor Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
I was only pondering about a feature and wondering if others also had ideas to formulate a real suggestion. If you are truly interested in this 1/2 kid problem, I will send you a detailed document with screen shots that illustrates some of the problems. The current program does show the missing biological parent in parentheses as you described and that is good but not the issue here. And sometimes, the missing biological parent name is not shown in parentheses nor is the 1/2 indicator if the children have the Relationship to Parent statuses set like Step, Adopted, Foster, etc. Here's the link to my shared google doc with screen shots and details. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvKiBRiS2YYWE5VdFlXanpSa2c/edit?usp=sharing I would appreciate comments, solutions, or suggestions. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:58 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Ron, We already display the name of the other spouse following the child's name when showing half kids in family view. Isn't that enough to show that the child is not biological to both the current parents? Or do you mean where a child is adopted and is not the product of any previous union of one of the parents? If that is what you mean make a suggestion. Suggestions on this list are seldom, if ever, translated into recorded suggestions in our enhancements list. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 22 Feb 2014 6:56 PM, Ron Taylor wrote: snip Millennia...please make it optionally possible to display the Relationship to Parent status. Perhaps a symbol that would indicate that the child is not biological from both parents of the marriage to distinguish from the children that are. Then, thinking even further ahead, make it possible to click on that symbol to jump directly to the biological parents group sheet. Ron Taylor Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
forget it then - never mind - I'll keep my ideas and thoughts to myself since they seem to be so hard to grasp by others On 22 February 2014 17:46, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.comwrote: yes, create an event called Census and then use one of the parents as head of household then via shared events add all the others who were living in the house at that time But you cant expect the pc program to know who from the first or second family was still living with the third family. , unless you create some new rule like all children from a former marriage automatically get blended into a new marriage would you want that as a global rule for your file now???, I doubt it. .. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: then there needs to be a way to print out a combined family group sheet or combined family timeline or something like that On 22 February 2014 13:28, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: In my view not half as messy as having their parentages mixed up. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
When you know that children of previous marriages for either party were living in the household (from census or whatever sources) you can easily link those children to the family (that husband wife combo) then set the relationship to each parent as step or biological. Once you do that the Family Group Sheet report will include those at-home children. There is a setting in the report to include those relationship to parents. That will not however include family groups from other spouses if there were children from those unions that never lived with this couple. It will also not mention the other biological parent for those blended children. I cannot quite envision what you would like a report for these multi-spouse extended families to look like so if there is a report design you would like to see for these situations please submit a suggestion. You can make up your sample report using a word processor so we can see what you would like. I can even suggest a family to use in preparing your model report. Use the Sample.fdb that comes with Legacy. Asa Clark Brown had two wives and had children with both. His second wife Eleanor Huffman was married before and had children from her first marriage. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 22 Feb 2014 1:20 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote: If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. How? please explain further? On 22 February 2014 14:44, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Inferring from your post, your couple married about 1879. Many times children from separate marriages where not all living together in the new blended family. Some were on their own, many were with the family of the former spouse, et alia. A genealogical program needs to account for all these possibilities, not just your own particular ancestral circumstances. I, for one, have a surfeit of mediaeval families in which children remained with the families of the former spouse or elsewhere. Home was definitely not with the latest couple. A genealogical database needs to be logical. If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. Cheers, Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
I rise to concur w/ Kathy that it is confusing to look at the CHILDREN list and find it chrono-unsorted. Seems to me that if the program can keep track of which child goes to each marriage--and flag it, it ought to be able to do a chrono sort on 'em. This would be useful in a number of ways, particularly for social aspect of the family genealogy. Back in the day, step children often used the stepfathers name until they were 21; having the mixed-parent chrono would make that a bit more visible. Cheryl Brian/Support wrote: When you know that children of previous marriages for either party were living in the household (from census or whatever sources) you can easily link those children to the family (that husband wife combo) then set the relationship to each parent as step or biological. Once you do that the Family Group Sheet report will include those at-home children. There is a setting in the report to include those relationship to parents. That will not however include family groups from other spouses if there were children from those unions that never lived with this couple. It will also not mention the other biological parent for those blended children. I cannot quite envision what you would like a report for these multi-spouse extended families to look like so if there is a report design you would like to see for these situations please submit a suggestion. You can make up your sample report using a word processor so we can see what you would like. I can even suggest a family to use in preparing your model report. Use the Sample.fdb that comes with Legacy. Asa Clark Brown had two wives and had children with both. His second wife Eleanor Huffman was married before and had children from her first marriage. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 22 Feb 2014 1:20 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote: If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. How? please explain further? On 22 February 2014 14:44, CE WOODwood...@msn.com wrote: Inferring from your post, your couple married about 1879. Many times children from separate marriages where not all living together in the new blended family. Some were on their own, many were with the family of the former spouse, et alia. A genealogical program needs to account for all these possibilities, not just your own particular ancestral circumstances. I, for one, have a surfeit of mediaeval families in which children remained with the families of the former spouse or elsewhere. Home was definitely not with the latest couple. A genealogical database needs to be logical. If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. Cheers, Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
Kathy, Please dont keep your thoughts to yourself, BUT try to step back and look at the big picture, both from the programming aspect and from users side. We all want to improve things but those changes have to be weighed on how they will affect current users or programming logic. As Ron mentioned, I would not want my family views messed up by merged family groups, as it would be come too easy to confuse myself on where the ever so important biological lines run. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: forget it then - never mind - I'll keep my ideas and thoughts to myself since they seem to be so hard to grasp by others On 22 February 2014 17:46, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.comwrote: yes, create an event called Census and then use one of the parents as head of household then via shared events add all the others who were living in the house at that time But you cant expect the pc program to know who from the first or second family was still living with the third family. , unless you create some new rule like all children from a former marriage automatically get blended into a new marriage would you want that as a global rule for your file now???, I doubt it. .. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: then there needs to be a way to print out a combined family group sheet or combined family timeline or something like that On 22 February 2014 13:28, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: In my view not half as messy as having their parentages mixed up. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
GREAT suggestion Brian ! What a good way to show the programmers what we are thinking when making a change. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote: When you know that children of previous marriages for either party were living in the household (from census or whatever sources) you can easily link those children to the family (that husband wife combo) then set the relationship to each parent as step or biological. Once you do that the Family Group Sheet report will include those at-home children. There is a setting in the report to include those relationship to parents. That will not however include family groups from other spouses if there were children from those unions that never lived with this couple. It will also not mention the other biological parent for those blended children. I cannot quite envision what you would like a report for these multi-spouse extended families to look like so if there is a report design you would like to see for these situations please submit a suggestion. You can make up your sample report using a word processor so we can see what you would like. I can even suggest a family to use in preparing your model report. Use the Sample.fdb that comes with Legacy. Asa Clark Brown had two wives and had children with both. His second wife Eleanor Huffman was married before and had children from her first marriage. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 22 Feb 2014 1:20 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote: If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. How? please explain further? On 22 February 2014 14:44, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Inferring from your post, your couple married about 1879. Many times children from separate marriages where not all living together in the new blended family. Some were on their own, many were with the family of the former spouse, et alia. A genealogical program needs to account for all these possibilities, not just your own particular ancestral circumstances. I, for one, have a surfeit of mediaeval families in which children remained with the families of the former spouse or elsewhere. Home was definitely not with the latest couple. A genealogical database needs to be logical. If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. Cheers, Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
Brian's suggestion is really the only logical way to show children from multiple marriages that lived together in the same household. The ViewShow 1/2 Kids will display children from multiple marriages even when they never did live in the same household simply because the child is linked in some way to one of the parents. The Children SettingsEdit Children window will only show children for that household. It should always show the biological children but as Brian said, it could include Step children, Adopted children, Foster children, and any other Relationship to Parent that you may wish. A step child will show under another marriage with both biological parents if the database is complete for that child. Millennia...please make it optionally possible to display the Relationship to Parent status. Perhaps a symbol that would indicate that the child is not biological from both parents of the marriage to distinguish from the children that are. Then, thinking even further ahead, make it possible to click on that symbol to jump directly to the biological parents group sheet. Ron Taylor On Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:41 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: GREAT suggestion Brian ! What a good way to show the programmers what we are thinking when making a change. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: When you know that children of previous marriages for either party were living in the household (from census or whatever sources) you can easily link those children to the family (that husband wife combo) then set the relationship to each parent as step or biological. Once you do that the Family Group Sheet report will include those at-home children. There is a setting in the report to include those relationship to parents. That will not however include family groups from other spouses if there were children from those unions that never lived with this couple. It will also not mention the other biological parent for those blended children. I cannot quite envision what you would like a report for these multi-spouse extended families to look like so if there is a report design you would like to see for these situations please submit a suggestion. You can make up your sample report using a word processor so we can see what you would like. I can even suggest a family to use in preparing your model report. Use the Sample.fdb that comes with Legacy. Asa Clark Brown had two wives and had children with both. His second wife Eleanor Huffman was married before and had children from her first marriage. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 22 Feb 2014 1:20 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote: If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. How? please explain further? On 22 February 2014 14:44, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Inferring from your post, your couple married about 1879. Many times children from separate marriages where not all living together in the new blended family. Some were on their own, many were with the family of the former spouse, et alia. A genealogical program needs to account for all these possibilities, not just your own particular ancestral circumstances. I, for one, have a surfeit of mediaeval families in which children remained with the families of the former spouse or elsewhere. Home was definitely not with the latest couple. A genealogical database needs to be logical. If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. Cheers, Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
Ron, Agreed... If they could put the little icon in the right upper corner of the childrens' container, in front of the child name, and then when you mouseover that symbol it would display the child status and relationships. So many more places could use mouseover events all of those icons on the family view page under the person could display mouseover popups with the info to review, instead of having to actually click thru to review. It would save me several thousand clicks per year! Regarding; Millennia...please make it optionally possible to display the Relationship to Parent status. Perhaps a symbol that would indicate that the child is not biological from both parents of the marriage to distinguish from the children that are. Then, thinking even further ahead, make it possible to click on that symbol to jump directly to the biological parents group sheet. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: Brian's suggestion is really the only logical way to show children from multiple marriages that lived together in the same household. The ViewShow 1/2 Kids will display children from multiple marriages even when they never did live in the same household simply because the child is linked in some way to one of the parents. The Children SettingsEdit Children window will only show children for that household. It should always show the biological children but as Brian said, it could include Step children, Adopted children, Foster children, and any other Relationship to Parent that you may wish. A step child will show under another marriage with both biological parents if the database is complete for that child. Millennia...please make it optionally possible to display the Relationship to Parent status. Perhaps a symbol that would indicate that the child is not biological from both parents of the marriage to distinguish from the children that are. Then, thinking even further ahead, make it possible to click on that symbol to jump directly to the biological parents group sheet. Ron Taylor On Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:41 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: GREAT suggestion Brian ! What a good way to show the programmers what we are thinking when making a change. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: When you know that children of previous marriages for either party were living in the household (from census or whatever sources) you can easily link those children to the family (that husband wife combo) then set the relationship to each parent as step or biological. Once you do that the Family Group Sheet report will include those at-home children. There is a setting in the report to include those relationship to parents. That will not however include family groups from other spouses if there were children from those unions that never lived with this couple. It will also not mention the other biological parent for those blended children. I cannot quite envision what you would like a report for these multi-spouse extended families to look like so if there is a report design you would like to see for these situations please submit a suggestion. You can make up your sample report using a word processor so we can see what you would like. I can even suggest a family to use in preparing your model report. Use the Sample.fdb that comes with Legacy. Asa Clark Brown had two wives and had children with both. His second wife Eleanor Huffman was married before and had children from her first marriage. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ On 22 Feb 2014 1:20 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote: If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. How? please explain further? On 22 February 2014 14:44, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Inferring from your post, your couple married about 1879. Many times children from separate marriages where not all living together in the new blended family. Some were on their own, many were with the family of the former spouse, et alia. A genealogical program needs to account for all these possibilities, not just your own particular ancestral circumstances. I, for one, have a surfeit of mediaeval families in which children remained with the families of the former spouse or elsewhere. Home was definitely not with the latest couple. A genealogical database needs to be logical. If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. Cheers, Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived
RE: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
Well, the Family View which you are using, is a view of one man and one woman. Their children are listed first. If you switch to the other set of parents in the Family View, their children are shown first. This is how it should be. Cheers, Carolyn Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:43:47 +1000 Subject: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids From: kmthoms...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com I like the show ½ kids feature, I think it's good, but I'm puzzled as to why they do not show up in date order. I understand and agree that any children of the current marriage should show first, but why do the ½ kids have to be separated quite so starkly with all of his kids shown first, then all of her kids. I personally think it would be nice if the children could actually display in birth order regardless of full or ½ relationship with the shown parents - especially since the Show ½kids is an optional thing What do other people think Am also interested in comments from the Legacy programmers or support as to whether it's something that might be possible to implement or not. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
yes - and that part is fine - but why should the half kids of each former / subsequent marriage be separated? Basically, I'd like to be able to see easily what kids of each marriage are a similar age to each other, and therefore who is likely to still be at home at any one time.. Having the 2 kids of the current marriage born 1880-1884 first is great, but then having the 8 kids born between 1862 and 1877 from his first marriage and then having 5 kids born between 1865 and 1879 from her first marriage - just looks messy - especially when it's very likely that all the kids born between 1869 and 1884 are living at home at the same time. On 22 February 2014 12:32, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Well, the Family View which you are using, is a view of one man and one woman. Their children are listed first. If you switch to the other set of parents in the Family View, *their *children are shown first. This is how it should be. Cheers, Carolyn -- Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:43:47 +1000 Subject: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids From: kmthoms...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com I like the show ½ kids feature, I think it's good, but I'm puzzled as to why they do not show up in date order. I understand and agree that any children of the current marriage should show first, but why do the ½ kids have to be separated quite so starkly with all of his kids shown first, then all of her kids. I personally think it would be nice if the children could actually display in birth order regardless of full or ½ relationship with the shown parents - especially since the Show ½kids is an optional thing What do other people think Am also interested in comments from the Legacy programmers or support as to whether it's something that might be possible to implement or not. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
In my view not half as messy as having their parentages mixed up. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
then there needs to be a way to print out a combined family group sheet or combined family timeline or something like that On 22 February 2014 13:28, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: In my view not half as messy as having their parentages mixed up. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
Inferring from your post, your couple married about 1879. Many times children from separate marriages where not all living together in the new blended family. Some were on their own, many were with the family of the former spouse, et alia. A genealogical program needs to account for all these possibilities, not just your own particular ancestral circumstances. I, for one, have a surfeit of mediaeval families in which children remained with the families of the former spouse or elsewhere. Home was definitely not with the latest couple. A genealogical database needs to be logical. If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. Cheers, Carolyn Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:19:17 +1000 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids From: kmthoms...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com yes - and that part is fine - but why should the half kids of each former / subsequent marriage be separated? Basically, I'd like to be able to see easily what kids of each marriage are a similar age to each other, and therefore who is likely to still be at home at any one time.. Having the 2 kids of the current marriage born 1880-1884 first is great, but then having the 8 kids born between 1862 and 1877 from his first marriage and then having 5 kids born between 1865 and 1879 from her first marriage - just looks messy - especially when it's very likely that all the kids born between 1869 and 1884 are living at home at the same time. On 22 February 2014 12:32, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Well, the Family View which you are using, is a view of one man and one woman. Their children are listed first. If you switch to the other set of parents in the Family View, their children are shown first. This is how it should be. Cheers, Carolyn Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:43:47 +1000 Subject: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids From: kmthoms...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com I like the show ½ kids feature, I think it's good, but I'm puzzled as to why they do not show up in date order. I understand and agree that any children of the current marriage should show first, but why do the ½ kids have to be separated quite so starkly with all of his kids shown first, then all of her kids. I personally think it would be nice if the children could actually display in birth order regardless of full or ½ relationship with the shown parents - especially since the Show ½kids is an optional thing What do other people think Am also interested in comments from the Legacy programmers or support as to whether it's something that might be possible to implement or not. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
We all have different wishes, needs and desires. What works for one does not necessarily work for another. Why don't you make a suggestion to Legacy to provide that option? There's a link for that on the Legacy Home page. :-) Wendy Kathy Thompson said the following on 22/02/2014 4:19 p.m.: yes - and that part is fine - but why should the half kids of each former / subsequent marriage be separated? Basically, I'd like to be able to see easily what kids of each marriage are a similar age to each other, and therefore who is likely to still be at home at any one time.. Having the 2 kids of the current marriage born 1880-1884 first is great, but then having the 8 kids born between 1862 and 1877 from his first marriage and then having 5 kids born between 1865 and 1879 from her first marriage - just looks messy - especially when it's very likely that all the kids born between 1869 and 1884 are living at home at the same time. On 22 February 2014 12:32, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com mailto:wood...@msn.com wrote: Well, the Family View which you are using, is a view of one man and one woman. Their children are listed first. If you switch to the other set of parents in the Family View, _their _children are shown first. This is how it should be. Cheers, Carolyn Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:43:47 +1000 Subject: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids From: kmthoms...@gmail.com mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com I like the show ½ kids feature, I think it's good, but I'm puzzled as to why they do not show up in date order. I understand and agree that any children of the current marriage should show first, but why do the ½ kids have to be separated quite so starkly with all of his kids shown first, then all of her kids. I personally think it would be nice if the children could actually display in birth order regardless of full or ½ relationship with the shown parents - especially since the Show ½kids is an optional thing What do other people think Am also interested in comments from the Legacy programmers or support as to whether it's something that might be possible to implement or not. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. How? please explain further? On 22 February 2014 14:44, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Inferring from your post, your couple married about 1879. Many times children from separate marriages where not all living together in the new blended family. Some were on their own, many were with the family of the former spouse, et alia. A genealogical program needs to account for all these possibilities, not just your own particular ancestral circumstances. I, for one, have a surfeit of mediaeval families in which children remained with the families of the former spouse or elsewhere. Home was definitely not with the latest couple. A genealogical database needs to be logical. If you want to create a report that accommodates your special circumstance, that is quite easily accomplished. Cheers, Carolyn -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
Kathy, If you can explain how you would accomplish that logically in the programming side, it might be doable. But your are asking to see something that is technically almost impossible considering the real genealogical links (via biology) and the family group as a living unit. How is the program supposed to decide who belongs where?? Legacy is already so versatile overall it can accommodate recording all the variations into a database. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: I like the show ½ kids feature, I think it's good, but I'm puzzled as to why they do not show up in date order. I understand and agree that any children of the current marriage should show first, but why do the ½ kids have to be separated quite so starkly with all of his kids shown first, then all of her kids. I personally think it would be nice if the children could actually display in birth order regardless of full or ½ relationship with the shown parents - especially since the Show ½kids is an optional thing What do other people think Am also interested in comments from the Legacy programmers or support as to whether it's something that might be possible to implement or not. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children View - Show ½ kids
yes, create an event called Census and then use one of the parents as head of household then via shared events add all the others who were living in the house at that time But you cant expect the pc program to know who from the first or second family was still living with the third family. , unless you create some new rule like all children from a former marriage automatically get blended into a new marriage would you want that as a global rule for your file now???, I doubt it. .. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: then there needs to be a way to print out a combined family group sheet or combined family timeline or something like that On 22 February 2014 13:28, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: In my view not half as messy as having their parentages mixed up. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
