Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
Well I certainly won't be getting rid of my tabs in Legacy event notes. It takes a combination of tabs and spaces if the first space is really irregular size and the tab is a set unchangeable size in Legacy, but I've had things line up by using tabs for years. Since you can remove them from the gedcom and replace with the html form of the tab by just checking a checkbox, WHY would you get rid of them? You need to do that for bold and italics etc anyway. Cathy Eliz Hanebury wrote: > > Okay, I will take a deep breath and work on it this only started > after either an update or a reboot, I don't quite remember which but > the<> in World Connect is really new. > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Brian/Support > wrote: >> >> The «tab» is the Rich Text Format (RTF) code for a tab character >> (we use >> RTF codes to format text in Notes). That is not understood by a web page >> which wants HTML coding so that is why you see those in your >> WorldConnect tree when you upload a Legacy created GEDCOM. >> >> If you want to remove those tabs from your Notes in Legacy: >> Use search and replace >> Search> Search and replace >> There are buttons below the character ribbon to search for tab and >> Carriage Return (CR) special characters. The tab button will insert the >> «tab» for you. >> >> Replacement text should be either a space or nothing depending how your >> tabs are surrounded in your problem text. >> >> If you are uploading a GEDCOM from Legacy to WorldConnect though Cathy's >> earlier suggestion to have Legacy convert the tabs in your GEDCOM into >> HTML codes should work to make them HTML tabs not RTF tabs and you can >> keep the tabs in your Legacy Notes. >> >> Brian >> Customer Support >> Millennia Corporation >> br...@legacyfamilytree.com >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >> >> On 23/01/2016 14:50, Eliz Hanebury wrote: >>> >>> Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on<> in my Legacy, an please note >>> that the<> in inline not at the end. >>> >>> I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is >>> right where I can see and find it and use it. >>> Eliz >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections >>>> where the >>>> text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML†button on that >>>> Note. >>>> Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often >>>> include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them >>>> difficult >>>> to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end >>>> of the >>>> line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of a line, >>>> then you’ve >>>> got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some visible tabs >>>> (“<>†), >>>> the Strip HTML button works on that also. Just get in the habit of >>>> clicking >>>> on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting text from a web source. >>>> >>>> Brian in California >>>> >>>> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM >>>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky<> >>>> >>>> Try this. >>>> >>>> I just tried and I think it's worked >>>> when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to >>>> HTML style" >>>> but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it. >>>> >>>> Cathy >>>> >>>> Eliz Hanebury wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these >>>> <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might >>>> have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill >>>> <>? >>>> >>>> FOLIO:«tab»634 >>>> PAGE NUMBER:«tab»20 >>>> HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:«tab»65 >>>> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:«tab» >>>> NAME«tab»AGE >>>>
Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
Okay, I will take a deep breath and work on it this only started after either an update or a reboot, I don't quite remember which but the <> in World Connect is really new. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Brian/Support wrote: > The «tab» is the Rich Text Format (RTF) code for a tab character (we use > RTF codes to format text in Notes). That is not understood by a web page > which wants HTML coding so that is why you see those in your > WorldConnect tree when you upload a Legacy created GEDCOM. > > If you want to remove those tabs from your Notes in Legacy: > Use search and replace > Search > Search and replace > There are buttons below the character ribbon to search for tab and > Carriage Return (CR) special characters. The tab button will insert the > «tab» for you. > > Replacement text should be either a space or nothing depending how your > tabs are surrounded in your problem text. > > If you are uploading a GEDCOM from Legacy to WorldConnect though Cathy's > earlier suggestion to have Legacy convert the tabs in your GEDCOM into > HTML codes should work to make them HTML tabs not RTF tabs and you can > keep the tabs in your Legacy Notes. > > Brian > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > br...@legacyfamilytree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > On 23/01/2016 14:50, Eliz Hanebury wrote: >> Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note >> that the <> in inline not at the end. >> >> I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is >> right where I can see and find it and use it. >> Eliz >> >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot >> wrote: >>> Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections where the >>> text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML†button on that Note. >>> Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often >>> include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them difficult >>> to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end of the >>> line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of a line, then >>> you’ve >>> got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some visible tabs (“<>†>>> ), >>> the Strip HTML button works on that also. Just get in the habit of clicking >>> on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting text from a web source. >>> >>> Brian in California >>> >>> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM >>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> >>> >>> Try this. >>> >>> I just tried and I think it's worked >>> when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style" >>> but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it. >>> >>> Cathy >>> >>> Eliz Hanebury wrote: >>> >>> Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these >>> <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might >>> have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill >>> <>? >>> >>> FOLIO:«tab»634 >>> PAGE NUMBER:«tab»20 >>> HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:«tab»65 >>> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:«tab» >>> NAME«tab»AGE >>> Edward James«tab»46 >>> Sussanah James«tab»44 >>> Naomi James«tab»18 >>> David James«tab»16 >>> Margaret James«tab»13 >>> Elizabeth James«tab»11 >>> Edward James«tab»9 >>> Richard James«tab»7 >>> Aaron James«tab»5 >>> Sarah James«tab»1 >>> Eliz > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
>. it looks like it is seeing the outer < and > and removing everything >between. Confirmed. Thus the nested "<<" makes no difference in what it removes. For example, if one were to add this phrase to any notes, <>, and then hit the Strip HTML button, it would ALL be erased. In other words, it seems as if it's not really looking for HTML codes but merely the "less than" sign and the "greater than" sign as flags, and then assumes it must all be HTML so everything goes into the bit bucket. Along similar lines, I remember several months back when I got fancy with my treatment for Unknown names and entered them as . You cannot believe the HTML mess I got when Gedcoms were uploaded to Ancestry's web pages. Your conjecture that the characters might be alt0171 and alt0187 might be possible but I can't see how they can be confused because they are so much smaller. Here is the ASCII Code for such printable characters: ASCII code 174 = « ( Angle quotes, guillemets, right-pointing quotation mark ) ASCII code 175 = » ( Guillemets, angle quotes, left-pointing quotation marks ) The double "smaller than/greater than" characters would look like << and >>. Close but no cigar. But I do like your other suggestion to do a "Search and Replace" to permanently get rid of the offending characters whether they be RTF formatting codes or printable ASCII characters. Hopefully the OP can utilize one or more of these methods and achieve some joy. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:03 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> It may be because the arrows before and after the tab are not two arrows << and >> but are alt0171 « and alt0187 » characters which are not recognized as HTML but are part of the RTF code for a tab character. Also the Strip HTML removes text between single arrows but I see it works when there are nested << and >> as well, it looks like it is seeing the outer < and > and removing everything between. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 23/01/2016 16:26, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: > Before posting my message, I tested adding <> in one of my notes then > hit Strip HTML and it was removed. Don't know why yours is different. > > Brian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:51 AM > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> > > Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note that > the <> in inline not at the end. > > I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is right > where I can see and find it and use it. > Eliz > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot > wrote: >> Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections >> where the text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML†button on >> that Note. >> Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often >> include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them >> difficult to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond >> the end of the line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of >> a line, then you’ve got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some >> visible tabs (“<>â€), the Strip HTML button works on that also. >> Just get in the habit of clicking on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting >> text from a web source. >> >> Brian in California >> >> No blizzard here >> >> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM >> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> >> >> Try this. >> >> I just tried and I think it's worked >> >> when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style" >> >> but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it. >> >> Cathy >> >> >> Eliz Hanebury wrote: >> >> Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these >> <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might >> have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill >> <>? >> >> FOLIO:«tab»634 >> PAGE NUMBER:«tab»20 >> HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:«tab»65 >> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:«tab» >> NAME«tab»AGE
RE: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
Before posting my message, I tested adding <> in one of my notes then hit Strip HTML and it was removed. Don't know why yours is different. Brian -Original Message- From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:51 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note that the <> in inline not at the end. I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is right where I can see and find it and use it. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: > Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections > where the text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML” button on that > Note. > Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often > include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them > difficult to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond > the end of the line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of > a line, then you’ve got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some > visible tabs (“<>”), the Strip HTML button works on that also. > Just get in the habit of clicking on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting > text from a web source. > > > > Brian in California > > No blizzard here > > > > > > From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> > > > > Try this. > > I just tried and I think it's worked > > when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style" > > but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it. > > Cathy > > > Eliz Hanebury wrote: > > > Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these > <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might > have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill > <>? > > > > FOLIO:«tab»634 > PAGE NUMBER:«tab»20 > HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:«tab»65 > HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:«tab» > NAME«tab»AGE > Edward James«tab»46 > Sussanah James«tab»44 > Naomi James«tab»18 > David James«tab»16 > Margaret James«tab»13 > Elizabeth James«tab»11 > Edward James«tab»9 > Richard James«tab»7 > Aaron James«tab»5 > Sarah James«tab»1 > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note that the <> in inline not at the end. I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is right where I can see and find it and use it. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: > Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections where the > text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML” button on that Note. > Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often > include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them difficult > to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end of the > line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of a line, then you’ve > got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some visible tabs (“<>”), > the Strip HTML button works on that also. Just get in the habit of clicking > on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting text from a web source. > > > > Brian in California > > No blizzard here > > > > > > From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> > > > > Try this. > > I just tried and I think it's worked > > when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style" > > but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it. > > Cathy > > > Eliz Hanebury wrote: > > > Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these > <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might > have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill > <>? > > > > FOLIO:«tab»634 > PAGE NUMBER:«tab»20 > HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:«tab»65 > HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:«tab» > NAME«tab»AGE > Edward James«tab»46 > Sussanah James«tab»44 > Naomi James«tab»18 > David James«tab»16 > Margaret James«tab»13 > Elizabeth James«tab»11 > Edward James«tab»9 > Richard James«tab»7 > Aaron James«tab»5 > Sarah James«tab»1 > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections where the text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML” button on that Note. Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them difficult to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end of the line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of a line, then you’ve got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some visible tabs (“<>”), the Strip HTML button works on that also. Just get in the habit of clicking on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting text from a web source. Brian in California No blizzard here From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <> Try this. I just tried and I think it's worked when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style" but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it. Cathy Eliz Hanebury wrote: Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill <>? FOLIO:«tab»634 PAGE NUMBER:«tab»20 HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:«tab»65 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:«tab» NAME«tab»AGE Edward James«tab»46 Sussanah James«tab»44 Naomi James«tab»18 David James«tab»16 Margaret James«tab»13 Elizabeth James«tab»11 Edward James«tab»9 Richard James«tab»7 Aaron James«tab»5 Sarah James«tab»1 Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
Try this. I just tried and I think it's worked when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style" but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it. Cathy Eliz Hanebury wrote: > > Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these > <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might > have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill > <>? > > > > FOLIO:«tab»634 > PAGE NUMBER:«tab»20 > HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:«tab»65 > HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:«tab» > NAME«tab»AGE > Edward James«tab»46 > Sussanah James«tab»44 > Naomi James«tab»18 > David James«tab»16 > Margaret James«tab»13 > Elizabeth James«tab»11 > Edward James«tab»9 > Richard James«tab»7 > Aaron James«tab»5 > Sarah James«tab»1 > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) > and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
