RE: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
You might look at BitTorrent Sync... it's basically a 'cloud' backup but for a local network (it does not go against the internet) I'm using it to keep folders on 2 computers in sync using a NAS as a go between (The NAS is running BitTorrent Sync too), but I bet you can just have it on 2 (or more) computers on your network and not have a NAS in the picture. They also have iOS and Android device support too. Kevin -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net] Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 2:54 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers Mike, Never thought, whats in my routers thumb drive, could be vulnerable, (going to clean it up now) that's one thing I don't like about cloud storage. I think, in the end I'll sink by copying and pasting through the thumb drive, from one comp to another. With out images It'll, it might take 4 seconds, I can handle it. Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
if it is set up properly then usually the router is behind its own firewall -Original Message- From: Brian Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:54 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers Mike, Never thought, whats in my routers thumb drive, could be vulnerable, (going to clean it up now) that's one thing I don't like about cloud storage. I think, in the end I'll sink by copying and pasting through the thumb drive, from one comp to another. With out images It'll, it might take 4 seconds, I can handle it. Brian On 2/9/2014 3:14 AM, MikeFry wrote: > On 09 Feb 2014 05:30, Brian wrote: > >> Not to highjack this thread, but wireless router was mentioned. >> My wireless router has a port for a memory stick, which I use to >> transfer files between 3 computers. >> Could I keep my family file in my routers memory stick, >> to sink my desktop and laptop? >> I assume it would operate like dropbox, shouldn't work on one, while the >> other is open. > If you do this, be very, very careful with the way you set up security on > the > router. The memory stick (thumb drive, flash drive whatever...) is usually > treated as a network drive and can be accessed from the other side of the > router > i.e. the big, bad Internet world with all its' hackers. > -- Russell G. Strong P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133&Click=1114 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
Way to go Wendy! That was the best explanation for DropBox/cloud storage that I've seen. Bob A -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:34 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
Mike, Never thought, whats in my routers thumb drive, could be vulnerable, (going to clean it up now) that's one thing I don't like about cloud storage. I think, in the end I'll sink by copying and pasting through the thumb drive, from one comp to another. With out images It'll, it might take 4 seconds, I can handle it. Brian On 2/9/2014 3:14 AM, MikeFry wrote: > On 09 Feb 2014 05:30, Brian wrote: > >> Not to highjack this thread, but wireless router was mentioned. >> My wireless router has a port for a memory stick, which I use to >> transfer files between 3 computers. >> Could I keep my family file in my routers memory stick, >> to sink my desktop and laptop? >> I assume it would operate like dropbox, shouldn't work on one, while the >> other is open. > If you do this, be very, very careful with the way you set up security on the > router. The memory stick (thumb drive, flash drive whatever...) is usually > treated as a network drive and can be accessed from the other side of the > router > i.e. the big, bad Internet world with all its' hackers. > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
On 09 Feb 2014 05:30, Brian wrote: > Not to highjack this thread, but wireless router was mentioned. > My wireless router has a port for a memory stick, which I use to > transfer files between 3 computers. > Could I keep my family file in my routers memory stick, > to sink my desktop and laptop? > I assume it would operate like dropbox, shouldn't work on one, while the > other is open. If you do this, be very, very careful with the way you set up security on the router. The memory stick (thumb drive, flash drive whatever...) is usually treated as a network drive and can be accessed from the other side of the router i.e. the big, bad Internet world with all its' hackers. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
You could SyncToy do synchronise the files from you Laptop to the Router's memory stick and from the PC to the router's memory stick. Personally I use SyncToy and a portable hard drive. Alan -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net] Sent: 09 February 2014 03:30 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers Not to highjack this thread, but wireless router was mentioned. My wireless router has a port for a memory stick, which I use to transfer files between 3 computers. Could I keep my family file in my routers memory stick, to sink my desktop and laptop? I assume it would operate like dropbox, shouldn't work on one, while the other is open. Thanks Brian On 2/8/2014 9:28 PM, Raymond F MacMahon wrote: > Hi Wendy, > > Many thanks for the info. I have never used Dropbox but it sounds like > exactly what I need to be sure both computers have the same data on them. Your > instruction are very clear so I should be able to follow them correctly. The > laptop is only turned on about every two weeks in order to download any > Microsoft updates. I use a wireless router to connect the laptop to the > internet. > > Ray MacMahon > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
Not to highjack this thread, but wireless router was mentioned. My wireless router has a port for a memory stick, which I use to transfer files between 3 computers. Could I keep my family file in my routers memory stick, to sink my desktop and laptop? I assume it would operate like dropbox, shouldn't work on one, while the other is open. Thanks Brian On 2/8/2014 9:28 PM, Raymond F MacMahon wrote: > Hi Wendy, > > Many thanks for the info. I have never used Dropbox but it sounds like > exactly what I need to be sure both computers have the same data on them. Your > instruction are very clear so I should be able to follow them correctly. The > laptop is only turned on about every two weeks in order to download any > Microsoft updates. I use a wireless router to connect the laptop to the > internet. > > Ray MacMahon > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
Hi Wendy, Many thanks for the info. I have never used Dropbox but it sounds like exactly what I need to be sure both computers have the same data on them. Your instruction are very clear so I should be able to follow them correctly. The laptop is only turned on about every two weeks in order to download any Microsoft updates. I use a wireless router to connect the laptop to the internet. Ray MacMahon - Original Message - From: "Wendy Howard" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers Hi Ray, Are both computers online? If they are, then the easiest way to keep them synchronised would be to use Dropbox, Google Drive or some other 'cloud' storage facility. It means you never have to remember which computer has the updated file, as it all happens automatically. I use Dropbox so will talk about it here, but I expect other services are similar in how they work. Dropbox gives you 2GB of free space when you first sign up. You can increase that free space (they tell you how on their web site, referring others is the most common), and you can pay to get more space (which I chose to do after using the free space for a while). Dropbox have a nice little explanation about how their service works - go to their web site (https://www.dropbox.com/) and click on 'Learn more'. Do you have a Dropbox account already? If not, the best way to sign up is by getting a friend to invite you - you both get extra free space when the invitation is accepted. If you don't know anyone else using it, you're welcome to use my invitation - click on this link to get started https://db.tt/F8WrnFlU (and I extend that to anyone reading this post - but check with your friends first to see if they can invite you, so you both get that benefit.) So now you have a Dropbox account. You need to also install their program onto each computer that you want to synchronise - click on the 'Download' link on their site to do that, and once it is installed log in with your Dropbox username (your email address) and password. What effectively happens when you install their program (I'm sure there's more, but this is what you'll see) is that a folder called 'Dropbox' is placed on your hard drive. Anything (files, folders) you put in that Dropbox folder will be uploaded to their cloud storage. You can now access those files and folders from any online computer - as long as you can remember your email address and password. Install the program on a second computer, and log in with the same account, and anything in the Dropbox folder on the first machine will automatically copy over to the second. Any files you delete in the Dropbox folder on one machine will be deleted from the other, too. If you prefer, depending on the situation, you could set up a separate Dropbox account for the second machine (send an invite to another email address you have, so both get that bit of extra free space). Then on one computer go to the Dropbox web site and share a folder in the Dropbox folder with the other account, and that folder will synchronise while other files and folders that are not shared will not be copied to the other machine. You can share an existing folder, or set up a new one as you work through the sharing process. I have a second account which I use on my smartphone, since it doesn't have enough memory to contain the 70GB I'm using on my main (paid) account. The Dropbox app has a very nice feature that make it very easy to upload photos I take on the phone, including the option to only upload when it has a wi-fi connection (so it doesn't use up my data allowance). If one or both computers are not online all the time, the synchronisation will happen when they go online. You don't have to remember to do anything, it's automatic. What you do have to remember is that (a) it may take a little while for a computer to update itself if it's been off/offline for a while so have a little patience (you can watch the progress, or check timestamps in Windows Explorer), and (b) you should NEVER have your Legacy data file open on two computers at the same time, and this includes a Legacy file in Dropbox, because it is going to update and synchronise while you're working on the file, and that will cause problems. Lastly, a word of advice if you choose to upgrade to a paid account and shift more of your folders and files to Dropbox or any other cloud storage - if you are on a metered internet connection, take into account that shifting all these files and folders is going to impact on your data allowance. You might want to shift smaller chunks over time so you don't go over your limit. It's also going to take a while - when I first upgraded and shifted EVERYTHING from my "My Documents" folder to Dropbox, it took about a week for that 50GB to upload!
Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
Hi Ray, Are both computers online? If they are, then the easiest way to keep them synchronised would be to use Dropbox, Google Drive or some other 'cloud' storage facility. It means you never have to remember which computer has the updated file, as it all happens automatically. I use Dropbox so will talk about it here, but I expect other services are similar in how they work. Dropbox gives you 2GB of free space when you first sign up. You can increase that free space (they tell you how on their web site, referring others is the most common), and you can pay to get more space (which I chose to do after using the free space for a while). Dropbox have a nice little explanation about how their service works - go to their web site (https://www.dropbox.com/) and click on 'Learn more'. Do you have a Dropbox account already? If not, the best way to sign up is by getting a friend to invite you - you both get extra free space when the invitation is accepted. If you don't know anyone else using it, you're welcome to use my invitation - click on this link to get started https://db.tt/F8WrnFlU (and I extend that to anyone reading this post - but check with your friends first to see if they can invite you, so you both get that benefit.) So now you have a Dropbox account. You need to also install their program onto each computer that you want to synchronise - click on the 'Download' link on their site to do that, and once it is installed log in with your Dropbox username (your email address) and password. What effectively happens when you install their program (I'm sure there's more, but this is what you'll see) is that a folder called 'Dropbox' is placed on your hard drive. Anything (files, folders) you put in that Dropbox folder will be uploaded to their cloud storage. You can now access those files and folders from any online computer - as long as you can remember your email address and password. Install the program on a second computer, and log in with the same account, and anything in the Dropbox folder on the first machine will automatically copy over to the second. Any files you delete in the Dropbox folder on one machine will be deleted from the other, too. If you prefer, depending on the situation, you could set up a separate Dropbox account for the second machine (send an invite to another email address you have, so both get that bit of extra free space). Then on one computer go to the Dropbox web site and share a folder in the Dropbox folder with the other account, and that folder will synchronise while other files and folders that are not shared will not be copied to the other machine. You can share an existing folder, or set up a new one as you work through the sharing process. I have a second account which I use on my smartphone, since it doesn't have enough memory to contain the 70GB I'm using on my main (paid) account. The Dropbox app has a very nice feature that make it very easy to upload photos I take on the phone, including the option to only upload when it has a wi-fi connection (so it doesn't use up my data allowance). If one or both computers are not online all the time, the synchronisation will happen when they go online. You don't have to remember to do anything, it's automatic. What you do have to remember is that (a) it may take a little while for a computer to update itself if it's been off/offline for a while so have a little patience (you can watch the progress, or check timestamps in Windows Explorer), and (b) you should NEVER have your Legacy data file open on two computers at the same time, and this includes a Legacy file in Dropbox, because it is going to update and synchronise while you're working on the file, and that will cause problems. Lastly, a word of advice if you choose to upgrade to a paid account and shift more of your folders and files to Dropbox or any other cloud storage - if you are on a metered internet connection, take into account that shifting all these files and folders is going to impact on your data allowance. You might want to shift smaller chunks over time so you don't go over your limit. It's also going to take a while - when I first upgraded and shifted EVERYTHING from my "My Documents" folder to Dropbox, it took about a week for that 50GB to upload! How much of that was the speed of our connection, and how much was me shutting the computer down at times each day, I don't know, but I certainly wasn't expecting it to take so long. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Raymond F MacMahon said the following on 9/02/2014 10:51 a.m.: > Hi, > > This is my first post. I need to be sure I have the same data on my > laptop as is on my desktop computer. The laptop is my insurance/backup in > case the 10 year old desktop dies. [which it will one day] How is the best > way to accomplish this? The data on the laptop was transfered using a thumb > drive. I have a tree on Ancestry.com. Thanks for any help and/or > suggestion
Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers
On 08-Feb-2014 4:51 PM, Raymond F MacMahon wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first post. I need to be sure I have the same data on my > laptop > as is on my desktop computer. The laptop is my insurance/backup in case the > 10 > year old desktop dies. [which it will one day] How is the best way to > accomplish this? The data on the laptop was transfered using a thumb drive. > I > have a tree on Ancestry.com. Thanks for any help and/or suggestions. > > Ray MacMahon > > I believe this topic has been discussed before. Try searching the archives for more thoughts. I use Dropbox to store my files and can open them from whichever computer I am using at the time; laptop or desktop. This may work for you. Wes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
