RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range
Kathy, Tools Potential Problems Under Warnings Warn if burial date us more than days after death I have mine set at 30 (default). This catches the typos like when some died in 1850 but you accidentally have them buried in 1860. The only times this one will be a problem is when you are dealing with people that aren't buried for months up north because of the frozen ground. In that case, you can uncheck the box completely or put it at a higher number than 30 days Under Problems Buried date before death date This one definitely catches the typos :) Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 10:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me to record the Burial/Internment location including the cemetery/crematorium name and resulting location within the cemtery. I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as that ends up at the end of any report. Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days after the person died, but other than that it's fine. My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the Exclude from Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok. I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles I have regarding death funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In Memoriums etc etc. Can anyone advise please? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range
On 2013/11/30 14:50, Michele/Support wrote: Under Problems Buried date before death date This one definitely catches the typos:) Gives false positives when there's an actual burial date but the only death date has been taken from the GRO in England and entered as Mmm Q . Even though the quarter covers the burial date, the program still thinks the burial is before the death. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range
Doesn't work for custom events though Michele. I don't want to have the cemetery name in the place location, so I need a custom event to put it, thus it becomes an event that occurs outside of the lifespan of the individual. I've excluded that event from the PP report for now. Kathy On 30/11/2013, at 10:50 PM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Kathy, Tools Potential Problems Under Warnings Warn if burial date us more than days after death I have mine set at 30 (default). This catches the typos like when some died in 1850 but you accidentally have them buried in 1860. The only times this one will be a problem is when you are dealing with people that aren't buried for months up north because of the frozen ground. In that case, you can uncheck the box completely or put it at a higher number than 30 days Under Problems Buried date before death date This one definitely catches the typos :) Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 10:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me to record the Burial/Internment location including the cemetery/crematorium name and resulting location within the cemtery. I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as that ends up at the end of any report. Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days after the person died, but other than that it's fine. My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the Exclude from Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok. I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles I have regarding death funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In Memoriums etc etc. Can anyone advise please? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range
Mike, I am doing two one name studies that are heavily UK, and I am not in the position, like many of us, to order a certificate for every BMD event I can use in my study. So, I wanted to create a protocol for recording vital event information based just on the BMD registration information and make sure that it was clear visually that this registration info was the source of the vital event information. I have created a series of events: Birth, Marriage, and Death Registrations. This is where I record the UK BMD registration records. Unless I have a better date for the actual birth, marriage or death, I will use those registration Q dates for birth, marriage, and death. BUT, if I have a more accurate date, I will use the more accurate date. -- When I record a Registration event, I use the Registration District (RD) as the location. If I use a registration date for a vital event date, I will also use the RD location as the vital event location, unless I have a better location from census or elsewhere. For instance, if I have a baptism date, I will record the birth dates as before baptism date, unless the birth registration date was in a previous quarter to the baptism date. I will follow a similar protocol with a death date if I have a burial date. If I have a death date, I record a burial date as an after death date (unless I have the burial date) so that date field is not empty and chronology reports are accurate. Yes, when a death date is a Q date, a burial date cannot be created using this approach. Yes, the death registration event is setup so it is not included in a problem report as it logically should always be after death. BTW, a lot of work went into assuring that the Q dates and other approximate dates do the right thing when doing PP Alerts. There may be some conditions we did not test and some that logically could never be 100% right, but we have definitely minimized the number of cases where users will need to do the exclusions and the number of cases where you miss a problem that should have been caught. john. At 08:19 AM 11/30/2013, Mike Fry wrote: On 2013/11/30 14:50, Michele/Support wrote: Under Problems Buried date before death date This one definitely catches the typos:) Gives false positives when there's an actual burial date but the only death date has been taken from the GRO in England and entered as Mmm Q . Even though the quarter covers the burial date, the program still thinks the burial is before the death. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range
Hi Kathy, When a whole Event type is going to be out of the life range of the person, then you change the Event Sentence Definition. Click the button for Edit Event Sentence Definition and then check the box - Exclude from Potential Problems Report. Done If you have Event Types that are mixed, then you have to exclude the events you don't want checked one by one. When editing an Event you will notice at the bottom of the screen a new checkbox. Exclude this instance of this event from problem checking Cathy At 11:55 AM 30/11/2013, you wrote: I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me to record the Burial/Internment location including the cemetery/crematorium name and resulting location within the cemtery. I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as that ends up at the end of any report. Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days after the person died, but other than that it's fine. My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the Exclude from Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok. I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles I have regarding death funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In Memoriums etc etc. Can anyone advise please? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range
Oh of course - thanks Cathy On 30 November 2013 14:07, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kathy, When a whole Event type is going to be out of the life range of the person, then you change the Event Sentence Definition. Click the button for Edit Event Sentence Definition and then check the box - Exclude from Potential Problems Report. Done If you have Event Types that are mixed, then you have to exclude the events you don't want checked one by one. When editing an Event you will notice at the bottom of the screen a new checkbox. Exclude this instance of this event from problem checking Cathy At 11:55 AM 30/11/2013, you wrote: I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me to record the Burial/Internment location including the cemetery/crematorium name and resulting location within the cemtery. I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as that ends up at the end of any report. Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days after the person died, but other than that it's fine. My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the Exclude from Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok. I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles I have regarding death funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In Memoriums etc etc. Can anyone advise please? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
