Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data
20 Dec 2019, 01:13 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 20. Dec 2019, at 00:16, Kathleen Lu via legal-talk >> wrote: >> >> This is not what the Substantial Guideline says. It says that fewer than 100 >> features is "not Substantial". It also gives as an example "More that 100 >> Features only if the extraction is non-systematic and clearly based on your >> own qualitative criteria for example an extract of all the the locations of >> restaurants you have visited for a personal map to share with friends or use >> the locations of a selection of historic buildings as an adjunct in a book >> you are writing, we would regard that as non Substantial." >> > > > If I recall correctly there is no definition what a feature is. Nobody has > yet commented how they would interpret this for a border: is it about the > border way or about the individual border points from which the border is > made of? > Obviously, both nodes, ways and relations should be counted. Otherwise one would be able to temporarily create one relation, that would include all data (s)he wish to use and export this.___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data
sent from a phone > On 20. Dec 2019, at 00:16, Kathleen Lu via legal-talk > wrote: > > This is not what the Substantial Guideline says. It says that fewer than 100 > features is "not Substantial". It also gives as an example "More that 100 > Features only if the extraction is non-systematic and clearly based on your > own qualitative criteria for example an extract of all the the locations of > restaurants you have visited for a personal map to share with friends or use > the locations of a selection of historic buildings as an adjunct in a book > you are writing, we would regard that as non Substantial." If I recall correctly there is no definition what a feature is. Nobody has yet commented how they would interpret this for a border: is it about the border way or about the individual border points from which the border is made of? 100 features may be a reasonable limit for point features, but for complex ways and relations, already very few (maybe even a single one) may be substantial? Kathleen, I would be interested in your thoughts what a feature is in the context of ways. Cheers Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data
> > “substantial” does not mean it has to be a certain percentage of the whole > db, you can see this from the substantial guideline, which has fixed limits > that are not growing with the db. “substantial” means it’s more than one or > two features (OpenStreetMap-Foundation has declared they see a total of 100 > features as substantial, although it is not completely clear what a feature > is, for example you could go to an extreme point of view and see the whole > border of Germany as a single feature (I am not) while a more credible > interpretation would see every border point as a feature, so that the > border of Germany would be thousands of features). > > This is not what the Substantial Guideline says. It says that fewer than 100 features is "not Substantial". It also gives as an example "More that 100 Features only if the extraction is non-systematic and clearly based on your own qualitative criteria for example an extract of all the the locations of restaurants you have visited for a personal map to share with friends or use the locations of a selection of historic buildings as an adjunct in a book you are writing, we would regard that as non Substantial." BTW, a list of flats/houses for sale in the current time period is not too far off from these examples. And that is for extracting the entirety of each feature. The Geocoding Guideline states: "Furthermore, if only names are provided in Geocoding Results from OSM -- in particular, latitude/longitude information from OSM is not included in the Geocoding Results -- a collection of such results is not a substantial extract." There's no 100 feature limit at all for geocoding. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
