Re: Stickynotes> Tabula error

[lewis]

refer #412 

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Re: Stickynotes> Tabula error

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:02 PM, lewis  wrote:

> I see this traceback running Plugins- Stickynotes> Tabula
...

> File "N:\git\leo-editor\leo\plugins\stickynotes.py", line 608, in add_note
sw.setAttribute(Qt.WA_DeleteOnClose, False)
AttributeError: module 'PyQt5.Qt' has no attribute 'WA_DeleteOnClose'

Please file an official bug report.

Edward

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Re: Leo's docs are ready for proof-reading

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:01 PM, lewis  wrote:

> There are redundant contents link at these 3 pages:
>

​Actually, the tables of contents in almost *all* of Leo's chapters are
formatted this way. A clone-find on ".. contents" yields 38 matches in
LeoDocs.leo.

Adding the :local: rST directive

would remove the extra line:

.. contents:: Chapter Contents
:depth: 3
:local:

When :local: is in effect, the title (Chapter Contents) must be given
explicitly. Otherwise no title line is generated.

For some reason, I seem to prefer the old way.  Let me think about this for
awhile.

Edward

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Stickynotes> Tabula error

[lewis]

I see this traceback running 
Plugins- Stickynotes> Tabula

Leo Log Window
Leo 5.4, build 20170217113839, Fri Feb 17 11:38:39 CST 2017
Git repo info: branch = master, commit = ea642c970625
Python 3.6.0, PyQt version 5.8.0
Windows 10 AMD64 (build 10.0.14393) SP0
exception executing command
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "N:\git\leo-editor\leo\core\leoCommands.py", line 5422, in doCommand
val = command(event)
  File "N:\git\leo-editor\leo\plugins\stickynotes.py", line 539, in tabula_f
t.add_note(p)
  File "N:\git\leo-editor\leo\plugins\stickynotes.py", line 608, in add_note
sw.setAttribute(Qt.WA_DeleteOnClose, False)
AttributeError: module 'PyQt5.Qt' has no attribute 'WA_DeleteOnClose'

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Re: Leo's docs are ready for proof-reading

[lewis]

There are more redundant contents links at these pages:

Running Leo ¶ http://leoeditor.com/running.html (these sub-headings)
  Installing Leo
  Running Leo

Cheat Sheet
Leo and Other Programs (sub-headings only)
Advanced Topics (these sub-headings only)
  Controlling Syntax Coloring
  Writing Plugins
  Unit testing with Leo
  Debugging with Leo
  A Miscellany of Leo Scripting
  Exploring Leo’s Code Base
  Vim Mode: Theory of Operation
Appendices
History of Leo
FAQ
What’s New

Regards
Lewis

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Re: Leo's docs are ready for proof-reading

[lewis]

There are redundant contents link at these 3 pages:

Leo in 10 Minutes  http://leoeditor.com/tutorial-basics.html
i.e.

Contents
Leo in 10 Minutes  
*(<-- This 
line is redundant)* 

   
   - Leo’s main window 
   
   - Commands 
   - Outlines and clones 
   



Using Leo as a Personal Information Manager  
http://leoeditor.com/tutorial-pim.html
Creating Documents from Outlines  http://leoeditor.com/tutorial-rst3.html

Regards
Lewis

*On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:37:25 AM UTC+11, Edward K. Ream wrote:*
>
>
> *Imo, the recent discussions have greatly improved the docs. Please 
> proof-read the pages listed above, and report any bad links, misspelling or 
> other problems.  Thanks!*
>

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Re: crash reading LeoDocs.leo

[lewis]

Thanks, the links are now safe.

BTW In the docs and webpage at

http://leoeditor.com/tutorial-scripting.html


Contents

   - Writing Leo scripts in Python *(<-- This line is effectively 
   redundant)*
   
   
  - Hello world 
  
  - Predefined symbols: c, g and p 
  

  - Positions and vnodes 
  
  - Generators 
  - Capturing positions 
  
  - wrappers vs. widgets 
  
  - Summary 
   
There is already a Contents heading and the link 
"http://leoeditor.com/tutorial-scripting.html#writing-leo-scripts-in-python"; 
is a link to the page you are on.

Lewis

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Re: Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode

[Kent Tenney]

S**t is getting serious

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Edward K. Ream  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:40 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor <
> leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Just for amusement, here's Leo with three body editors, vertically, using
>> the new edit pane I'm working on.
>>
>
> ​Excellent demo. This is going to be a breakthrough year for Leo.
>
> Edward
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Re: Leo vs org mode

[lewis]

OK thanks. It seems I wasn't running fast enough

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 12:33:59 AM UTC+11, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:42 AM, lewis  > wrote:
>
>> I checked all the TOC headings to ensure headings/tiles are matching. A 
>> user may find it annoying if the the link says "A brief summary of Leo" but 
>> the title at that page says "Preface"
>>
>
> ​Did you reload the page?  I fixed this several hours ago.
>
> Edward
>

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Re: Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:40 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor <
leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Just for amusement, here's Leo with three body editors, vertically, using
> the new edit pane I'm working on.
>

​Excellent demo. This is going to be a breakthrough year for Leo.

Edward

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Re: Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:46 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor <
leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote:


> > Leo 5.5 will have an execute-script-in-common-namespace command.
>


> vs-eval / vs-last / vs-pretty do this.
>
> > Leo 5.5 will also have a show-drawer command.
>
> Sort of like the attrib_edit plugin ;-)
>

​Hehe.  Hard to keep up with Leo. Next up: tables.py.

Edward

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Re: Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode

['Terry Brown' via leo-editor]

> From: Edward K. Ream > To: leo-editor 
>  > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:21 PM> 
> Subject: Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode> > In another thread I wrote:> > > 
> Perhaps [ A Brief Summary of Leo] should be rewritten in the org-mode intro 
> style, but that's for some other time.> > Actually, now is the time.> > My 
> competitive juices are flowing. The new intro will directly challenge org 
> mode. It will do this by showing, with numerous examples, why Leo is already 
> superior to org mode for scientific computation. Scientists can design there 
> own Leonine sub-outlines that represent computations and operations.
I'm pleased to hear we're back to Leo being an alternative to, rather than a 
copy of, Emacs :-) > @button, Leo's API and Leo's DOM, combined with python 
scripting, are much more convenient and powerful than org-mode.  Simplicity and 
generality are more important than a org-mode features.  Leo most definitely 
has the chops to support reproducible research, or any other buzzword one wants 
to use.> > Leo 5.5 will have an execute-script-in-common-namespace command. 
This can be added with only a few lines of code. It's needed to simulate 
pyzo/jupyter/org mode calculations.
vs-eval / vs-last / vs-pretty do this.  I added them to the inscrutable 
valuespace plugin because it already creates a common namespace (c.vs), but 
really they should be separate, seeing they're straight forward and easy to 
understand, unlike the rest of valuespace ;-)
> Leo 5.5 will also have a show-drawer command. It will pop up a window showing 
> a special 'core-drawer' uA. Saving the popup will update the uA.  No need for 
> changes to Leo's body pane.
Sort of like the attrib_edit plugin ;-)
Cheers -Terry
> Furthermore, Leo is already vastly superior to org mode for software 
> development, with features like automatic untangle (updating @ nodes), 
> automatic tangle when saving .leo files, clone-find commands, clones, etc, 
> Heh. Whenever I make this kind of list, I inevitably forget things. Like 
> @test, @suite, @button, scripting API, etc. etc.!> > So Reinhard's criticisms 
> are bearing fruit. I'll be emphasizing the problems Leo is designed to solve. 
>  These big tasks are Leo's main purpose. Sure, you can use Leo for keeping 
> track of your record collection.  Leo let's you do simple things simply.  But 
> you can also do complex things simply and flexibly. Things like designing a 
> suite of long-running experiments, documenting them, and ensuring that all 
> code is transparent to reviewers.  Or developing software like Leo itself. 
> All using Python and its libraries, not elisp and emacs-only libraries.> > 
> I'll be using mostly prose, as I have just done, combined with code 
> snippets.> > Edward> > P. S. The easy way to simulate org-mode's window, and 
> improve upon it, will be to allow Leo's body pane to contain multiple, 
> vertically aligned panes.  Like this:> > Overall body pane:> > pane 1> - 
> (separator)> pane 2> - (separator)> pane 3> ...> > Users will be able to 
> see the various panes without intervening headlines, although separators may 
> show headlines.  Only one of the panes will be active.  It is the "real" body 
> pane.  This can be done in a plugin, I suspect. It will not happen for Leo 
> 5.5, however.> > EKR> -- > You received this message because you are 
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Re: Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode

[john lunzer]

Really glad to see the idea of multiple body panes is gaining traction. 
Along with optionally being able to show the node headlines, as you 
suggested, there should also be an option to indent the entire panes to 
match the tree indentation. Org-mode has this toggle.

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 2:21:56 PM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> In another thread I wrote:
>
> > Perhaps [ A Brief Summary of Leo ] 
> should be rewritten in the org-mode intro style, but that's for some other 
> time.
>
> Actually, now *is *the time.
>
> My competitive juices are flowing. The new intro will directly challenge 
> org mode. It will do this by showing, with numerous examples, why Leo is 
> *already 
> *superior to org mode for scientific computation. Scientists can design 
> there own Leonine sub-outlines that represent computations and operations.
>
> @button, Leo's API and Leo's DOM, combined with python scripting, are 
> *much* more convenient and powerful than org-mode.  Simplicity and 
> generality are more important than a org-mode features.  Leo most 
> definitely has the chops to support reproducible research, or any other 
> buzzword one wants to use.
>
> Leo 5.5 will have an execute-script-in-common-namespace command. This can 
> be added with only a few lines of code. It's needed to simulate 
> pyzo/jupyter/org mode calculations.
>
> Leo 5.5 will also have a show-drawer command. It will pop up a window 
> showing a special 'core-drawer' uA. Saving the popup will update the uA.  
> No need for changes to Leo's body pane.
>
> Furthermore, Leo is already vastly superior to org mode for software 
> development, with features like automatic untangle (updating @ 
> nodes), automatic tangle when saving .leo files, clone-find commands, 
> clones, etc, Heh. Whenever I make this kind of list, I inevitably forget 
> things. Like @test, @suite, @button, scripting API, etc. etc.!
>
> So Reinhard's criticisms are bearing fruit. I'll be emphasizing the 
> problems Leo is designed to solve.  These big tasks are Leo's main purpose. 
> Sure, you can use Leo for keeping track of your record collection.  Leo 
> let's you do simple things simply.  But you can also do *complex* things 
> simply and flexibly. Things like designing a suite of long-running 
> experiments, documenting them, and ensuring that all code is transparent to 
> reviewers.  Or developing software like Leo itself. All using Python and 
> its libraries, not elisp and emacs-only libraries.
>
> I'll be using mostly prose, as I have just done, combined with code 
> snippets.
>
> Edward
>
> P. S. The easy way to simulate org-mode's window, and *improve* upon it, 
> will be to allow Leo's body pane to contain multiple, *vertically aligned 
> *panes.  Like this:
>
> Overall body pane:
>
> pane 1
> - (separator)
> pane 2
> - (separator)
> pane 3
> ...
>
> Users will be able to see the various panes *without* intervening 
> headlines, although separators may show headlines.  Only one of the panes 
> will be active.  It is the "real" body pane.  This can be done in a plugin, 
> I suspect. It will not happen for Leo 5.5, however.
>
> EKR
>

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Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode

[Edward K. Ream]

In another thread I wrote:

> Perhaps [ A Brief Summary of Leo ] 
should be rewritten in the org-mode intro style, but that's for some other 
time.

Actually, now *is *the time.

My competitive juices are flowing. The new intro will directly challenge 
org mode. It will do this by showing, with numerous examples, why Leo is 
*already 
*superior to org mode for scientific computation. Scientists can design 
there own Leonine sub-outlines that represent computations and operations.

@button, Leo's API and Leo's DOM, combined with python scripting, are *much* 
more convenient and powerful than org-mode.  Simplicity and generality are 
more important than a org-mode features.  Leo most definitely has the chops 
to support reproducible research, or any other buzzword one wants to use.

Leo 5.5 will have an execute-script-in-common-namespace command. This can 
be added with only a few lines of code. It's needed to simulate 
pyzo/jupyter/org mode calculations.

Leo 5.5 will also have a show-drawer command. It will pop up a window 
showing a special 'core-drawer' uA. Saving the popup will update the uA.  
No need for changes to Leo's body pane.

Furthermore, Leo is already vastly superior to org mode for software 
development, with features like automatic untangle (updating @ 
nodes), automatic tangle when saving .leo files, clone-find commands, 
clones, etc, Heh. Whenever I make this kind of list, I inevitably forget 
things. Like @test, @suite, @button, scripting API, etc. etc.!

So Reinhard's criticisms are bearing fruit. I'll be emphasizing the 
problems Leo is designed to solve.  These big tasks are Leo's main purpose. 
Sure, you can use Leo for keeping track of your record collection.  Leo 
let's you do simple things simply.  But you can also do *complex* things 
simply and flexibly. Things like designing a suite of long-running 
experiments, documenting them, and ensuring that all code is transparent to 
reviewers.  Or developing software like Leo itself. All using Python and 
its libraries, not elisp and emacs-only libraries.

I'll be using mostly prose, as I have just done, combined with code 
snippets.

Edward

P. S. The easy way to simulate org-mode's window, and *improve* upon it, 
will be to allow Leo's body pane to contain multiple, *vertically aligned 
*panes.  
Like this:

Overall body pane:

pane 1
- (separator)
pane 2
- (separator)
pane 3
...

Users will be able to see the various panes *without* intervening 
headlines, although separators may show headlines.  Only one of the panes 
will be active.  It is the "real" body pane.  This can be done in a plugin, 
I suspect. It will not happen for Leo 5.5, however.

EKR

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Re: crash reading LeoDocs.leo

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:51:40 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> ​​
> ​On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 4:32 AM, lewis  wrote:
>
> ​> ​
> I managed to hard crash Leo
> ​...In a viewrendered window I clicked on [a url]​. 
>
> P. S. Leo catches all exceptions when executing commands, but clicking a 
> url calls a callback. For *this* bug it suffices to have g.openUrlOnClick 
> catch all exceptions. The potential exists for similar problems in other 
> callbacks. A code review is needed.
>

Aha: All callbacks should be protected by a new *@g.callback* decorator.  
This decorator will wrap the callback in a try/except Exception statement. 
This is the easy way to ensure that the callback will never be able to 
raise an uncaught exception.

Edward

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Leo's docs are ready for proof-reading

[Edward K. Ream]

I plan no major changes in the docs for the 5.5 release, except to complete 
the release notes.

The major changes are to the following pages:

- Leo's home page : Pruned unnecessary words and 
changed the screen shot.

- Preliminaries : This now shows 
only the top-level pages, emphasizing...

- A Brief Summary of Leo : Previously 
named "preface". Perhaps this should be rewritten in the org-mode intro 
style, but that's for some other time.

- Tutorials : This now contains 
references to four pages, one clearly labeled as for programmers. Removed 
quotes from all tutorial page.

- Leo in 10 Minutes : Revised 
earlier today, to include more scripting material. It might take 20 minutes 
;-)

- Writing Leo scripts in Python 
: Revised earlier today. Some 
topics have moved to Leo in 10 minutes.

Imo, the recent discussions have greatly improved the docs. Please 
proof-read the pages listed above, and report any bad links, misspelling or 
other problems.  Thanks!

Edward

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Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

Thanks Edward and don't worry. There is a lot on your plate and you have 
been responsive and a force of nature behind Leo ;-).


Cheers,

Offray


On 17/02/17 03:28, Edward K. Ream wrote:
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 
mailto:off...@riseup.net>> wrote:


Talking about the Quotes and where they belong, I checked that my
name is still wrong[1].

​My apologies.  Fixed at ccf1c94 and on the web, here 
.


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Re: About org mode

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Arjan  wrote:

> ​Suppose Leo supported a V2 outline pane that shows
>> ​ ​
>> zero or more body panes, embedded (somehow!) in the Qt outline.
>>
>
> That sounds  very interesting. In that case, would the regular body pane
> be hidden for this mode of operation?
>

​That's the idea, yes.  I may play around with this in a new plugin, but
that's for later.
Edward

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Re: Leo vs org mode

[Arjan]

>
> A good table editor would be nice, it should read/write from 
> markdown/rst/latex/html.  I suspect there's been at least one iteration of 
> such a thing, in the distant past. If I had an urgent need to edit tables 
> in Leo, I'd probably edit them in the richtext plugin (CKEditor) and script 
> the results to whatever format I wanted.
>

As an aside, perhaps https://prosemirror.net/ would be an interesting 
alternative for CKEditor: it is lightweight, and supports markdown as 
document format (other formats like RST could be supported by writing a 
plugin). And it also has a table editor, though I don't know how ready it 
is.

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Re: About org mode

[Arjan]

>
> ​Suppose Leo supported a V2 outline pane that shows
> ​ ​
> zero or more body panes, embedded (somehow!) in the Qt outline.
>

That sounds  very interesting. In that case, would the regular body pane be 
hidden for this mode of operation?

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Re: Homepage - suggested cleanups

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 7:27:50 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 7:02 AM, lewis  wrote:
>
>> In the interests of improving the home page here are some suggested 
>> cleanups.
>>
>
> ​Excellent.  The home page now looks pretty much exactly as you suggest.
>

In another email you mentioned a place where the TOC didn't match the 
chapter title.  I've changed several tutorial chapter titles, and ensured 
that various TOCs now always match those titles.

Edward 

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Re: Org Mode: Learning on demand

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
off...@riseup.net> wrote:

​>> ​
I think the guideline should be: if you want it, you should give it a try.
I truly would appreciate help with docs, or any other project.

​> I can imagine myself helping with writing interactive documentation to
introduce newbies to Leo (as I did with my students years ago) and with
co-designing the Leo's future with the community meanwhile.

That would be great.  Thanks.

Edward

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Re: Leo vs org mode

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:42 AM, lewis  wrote:

> I checked all the TOC headings to ensure headings/tiles are matching. A
> user may find it annoying if the the link says "A brief summary of Leo" but
> the title at that page says "Preface"
>

​Did you reload the page?  I fixed this several hours ago.

Edward

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Re: Homepage - suggested cleanups

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 7:02 AM, lewis  wrote:

> In the interests of improving the home page here are some suggested
> cleanups.
>

​Excellent.  The home page now looks pretty much exactly as you suggest.

Edward

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Re: Leo or Leo-Editor?

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 7:12 AM, lewis  wrote:

> Can you clarify exactly what is the correct term for Leo?
>

​Leo is the application.  leo-editor is the web site.

Edward

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Leo or Leo-Editor?

[lewis]

Can you clarify exactly what is the correct term for Leo?
Is it Leo or Leo-Editor? Both terms are used frequently on the website and 
it appears a little confused.

On the home page have you considered presenting *Leo* as the major title 
rather than *Leo's Home Page* ? I think home page is an unnecessary 
addition.

Regards
Lewis

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Homepage - suggested cleanups

[lewis]

In the interests of improving the home page here are some suggested 
cleanups.
The page will look *slightly* cleaner. With the extra clear space, more 
space can be allocated to a 'Leo' heading in a larger suitable font.

At the LHS menu column, typically remove Leo from the heading subject, 
unless you *really* want it. Users are already on Leo's homepage and don't 
need Leo in almost every link. It's generally a good principle to *remove 
needless repetition*.













*TutorialDocumentationScreen shotsVideosTutorial Slide ShowsCode 
SnippetsLeo at Google GroupsLeo at GitHub#leo IRCQuotes from UsersReport a 
bugReadthedocs (API)More links...*

*Other suggested changes to the LHS menu:*
Delete 'Leo’s Wiki' http://leo.zwiki.org/ (it is out of date, and hasn't 
Github replaced this function?) You can always review the content later, 
and integrate important links you need.

Leo’s API documentation - change the title to 'Read the docs (API)' This 
improves the link/title match.

Deleted 'Mind Mapping' It's a duplicate - already in 'More Links' *Don't 
distract your users*!

This one may be controversial :)
Suggest deleting 'Leo: Leonine Editor with Outlines' as it doesn't really 
explain anything in context or link to anything. I'm sure you talk about it 
somewhere else? It might belong in the history of Leo for example? In the 
current page it's just sitting there like a shag on a rock.

The footer at the bottom left of this page still says 'Leo 5.3 
documentation'

I know at the moment you are "focused on presenting the basics of Leo in 
pictures with as few words as possible" so feel free to postpone these 
issues.
Still appreciate any comments.

Regards
Lewis

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Re: Leo vs org mode

[lewis]

I checked all the TOC headings to ensure headings/tiles are matching. A 
user may find it annoying if the the link says "A brief summary of Leo" but 
the title at that page says "Preface"
This occurs at http://leoeditor.com/leo_toc.html > 
http://leoeditor.com/preface.html

Regards
Lewis

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 8:11:32 PM UTC+11, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:47:01 PM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> I have just rediscovered Leo's preface , 
> which is pretty much a repeat of Leo's strengths. This must be renamed, and 
> there must be a link to it from the body of Leo's home page. 
>

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Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

[Edward K. Ream]

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Viktor Ransmayr wrote:

For me a very important thing in the 10 minutes intro would be:
>
> a) that the SW reflects the environment a 'newbie' finds (i.e. not your 
> individual Leo setup ) &
>
> b) that it is up to date (i.e. does not reflect Leo 4.10 ...)
>

The screenshots on Leo's home page and the Leo in 10 minutes page 
 now show the workbook as a 
newbie would see them on first opening Leo without a file name, with a 
recent 5.4 build. The fonts are my fonts, but that should not be of great 
concern.

Edward

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Re: Leo vs org mode

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:47:01 PM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote:

Leo has its own strengths:...There may be more ;-)
>

I forgot @command, @button, @test.

I have just rediscovered Leo's preface , 
which is pretty much a repeat of Leo's strengths. This must be renamed, and 
there must be a link to it from the body of Leo's home page.  

These three links should appear in the body of the home page, right after 
the sentence:

Leo's organizes data in a revolutionary way. (period, not colon).

A brief summary of Leo (link to preface, with a new title).
What people are saying about Leo
Learn Leo in 10 minutes

The home page will restate what is in the summary. I'll also use an updated 
screenshot on the home page, that will show users what they will see when 
they open Leo for the first time (the workbook, with cheat sheet).

Edward

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Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
off...@riseup.net> wrote:

> Talking about the Quotes and where they belong, I checked that my name is
> still wrong[1].
>
​My apologies.  Fixed at ccf1c94 and on the web, here
.

Edward

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