Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
Ecco also has an extended tagging system (called folders because the tags can be hierarchically organized); integer tags can be assigned to represent, e.g. priorities, and multiple choice tags can be created. This all sounds VERY interesting. Leo developers, please take notice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On 9/30/13 8:58 AM, duf...@gmail.com wrote: As per title... are you interested in using Leo as a PIM? Yes, although at the moment, I'm just a Leo lurker (with plans to take the dive when I can break out a sufficient block of time to grok the Tao of Leo). What features do you require, suggest? Any related ideas? Hmm; well, basic task/project management (planning, tracking, ordering of TBDs, project notes, etc.). Also, the ability to record simple tasks, then expand them into projects when they evolve into something less simple. Calendaring (I mostly use Thunderbird Lightning for events and reminders, plus Revell's Stickies for quick 'n easy recurring reminders and temporary notes). Outlining (allowing items to have multiple parents -- I'm guessing that Leo's cloning handles this), with easy outline reorganization (one keystroke navigation within and acroos levels, promotion and demotion, moving trees with cut-n-paste, etc.) -- I should say that Ecco is my standard for this; see http://www.compusol.org/ecco/outlining.html. Ecco also has an extended tagging system (called folders because the tags can be hierarchically organized); integer tags can be assigned to represent, e.g. priorities, and multiple choice tags can be created. That's all I can think of at the moment. -- Don Dwiggins Advanced Publishing Technology -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
As per title... are you interested in using Leo as a PIM? What features do you require, suggest? Any related ideas? Let's do some brainstorming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
+1 for PIM capabilities (of course) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
As for PIM features, a good tagging system would be one of the first requirements. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On 9/30/2013 12:00 PM, duf...@gmail.com wrote: As for PIM features, a good tagging system would be one of the first requirements. +35 for tagging (not that I have that many votes...) Additional nice features would be reports from todo.py about past-due and soon-to-be-due todo items. Additionally, the ability to schedule recurring tasks. But everything in the above paragraph can be accomplished with scripts... it'd just be nice to have it in core. --Jake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:58:02 -0700 (PDT) duf...@gmail.com wrote: As per title... are you interested in using Leo as a PIM? What features do you require, suggest? Any related ideas? Let's do some brainstorming. Depends what you mean by PIM. I use Leo to: - manage todo items (todo.py, priority, due date, time required, percent complete) - manage dates / timed reminders (mashup with remind, http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind) - manage bookmarks (browser integration with mod_http.py) - manage notes / recipes for particular processing tasks (just plain Leo for that :-) todo and date management has simple integration with claws-mail, the email client I use. Also my cross project todo integration script queries a Trac instance for open tickets with my name on them. But clearly a lot of this is local mashup that's hard to package for general use. Well, maybe not the cross project todo integration script, I guess I could try and release that, although I'm always tinkering with it. And there's a calendar view todo sorter GUI element, but such a hack I'm again not sure about release. Cheers -Terry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:06:22 -0400 Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/30/2013 12:00 PM, duf...@gmail.com wrote: As for PIM features, a good tagging system would be one of the first requirements. +35 for tagging (not that I have that many votes...) I think a good tagging system would be very useful for a lot of things, todo, but also lots of applications no one's though of yet. In principle it's as simple as p.v.u['_tags'] = a list of strings which are the tags for this node. Then it's all about GUI design for displaying / adding removing / managing tags. Also perhaps a table of description, long_name, short_name, color, where long_name is the tag string stored in p.v.u['_tags'], description is a more detailed description (optional), and short name is an abbreviation, perhaps displayed (colored color) in a new column in the tree pane. And of course c.tags.nodes_with_tags(tag_list) etc. Additional nice features would be reports from todo.py about past-due and soon-to-be-due todo items. Additionally, the ability to schedule recurring tasks. But everything in the above paragraph can be accomplished with scripts... it'd just be nice to have it in core. There's a distinction between 'core' and 'plugins included with the distribution', where it might be appropriate to keep some of this in the latter. But I think you were drawing a distinction between 'batteries included' (~core) and something you need to dig around and find to add in. Cheers -Terry --Jake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
Depends what you mean by PIM. Personally, the PIM features I need most are the one related to note/content storage, tagging, search and retrieval. I would like to set up a personal (one-user) knowledgebase system using Leo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On 9/30/2013 12:33 PM, Terry Brown wrote: But I think you were drawing a distinction between 'batteries included' (~core) and something you need to dig around and find to add in. I was. Core in that instance meant to me in the bzr repo. I should be a bit more static on my definitions of words :p --Jake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
Hello dufriz, I have been using piggydb to do exactly what you are talking about. Chris On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/30/2013 12:33 PM, Terry Brown wrote: But I think you were drawing a distinction between 'batteries included' (~core) and something you need to dig around and find to add in. I was. Core in that instance meant to me in the bzr repo. I should be a bit more static on my definitions of words :p --Jake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comleo-editor%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/leo-editorhttp://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
I guess I could try and release that, although I'm always tinkering with it. Could there be a reasonable way to somehow 'template' your setup? A repository which contained a bare version, less your personal content? Such that you could develop it, and changes would be reflected in your active file, but we could pull and see the changes applied to our content? Off hand, this would seem to require all customization living in a leoSettings.leo file = buttons, commands and menus and/or a leopimlib.py file containing code which could be called via ctl-b, on nodes in a template file. Maybe it's impractical to factor out that much customization, but if not, it would On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:58:02 -0700 (PDT) duf...@gmail.com wrote: As per title... are you interested in using Leo as a PIM? What features do you require, suggest? Any related ideas? Let's do some brainstorming. Depends what you mean by PIM. I use Leo to: - manage todo items (todo.py, priority, due date, time required, percent complete) - manage dates / timed reminders (mashup with remind, http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind) - manage bookmarks (browser integration with mod_http.py) - manage notes / recipes for particular processing tasks (just plain Leo for that :-) todo and date management has simple integration with claws-mail, the email client I use. Also my cross project todo integration script queries a Trac instance for open tickets with my name on them. But clearly a lot of this is local mashup that's hard to package for general use. Well, maybe not the cross project todo integration script, I guess I could try and release that, although I'm always tinkering with it. And there's a calendar view todo sorter GUI element, but such a hack I'm again not sure about release. Cheers -Terry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:05:59 -0500 Kent Tenney kten...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I could try and release that, although I'm always tinkering with it. Could there be a reasonable way to somehow 'template' your setup? A repository which contained a bare version, less your personal content? It's not really the personal content that's the problem, it's getting it off the bench and into a box without dislodging any of the bits of tape, string, or rubber bands holding it all together :-) I'll try and find some time, but, you know, argh. Cheers -Terry Such that you could develop it, and changes would be reflected in your active file, but we could pull and see the changes applied to our content? Off hand, this would seem to require all customization living in a leoSettings.leo file = buttons, commands and menus and/or a leopimlib.py file containing code which could be called via ctl-b, on nodes in a template file. Maybe it's impractical to factor out that much customization, but if not, it would On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:58:02 -0700 (PDT) duf...@gmail.com wrote: As per title... are you interested in using Leo as a PIM? What features do you require, suggest? Any related ideas? Let's do some brainstorming. Depends what you mean by PIM. I use Leo to: - manage todo items (todo.py, priority, due date, time required, percent complete) - manage dates / timed reminders (mashup with remind, http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind) - manage bookmarks (browser integration with mod_http.py) - manage notes / recipes for particular processing tasks (just plain Leo for that :-) todo and date management has simple integration with claws-mail, the email client I use. Also my cross project todo integration script queries a Trac instance for open tickets with my name on them. But clearly a lot of this is local mashup that's hard to package for general use. Well, maybe not the cross project todo integration script, I guess I could try and release that, although I'm always tinkering with it. And there's a calendar view todo sorter GUI element, but such a hack I'm again not sure about release. Cheers -Terry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM, duf...@gmail.com wrote: As per title... are you interested in using Leo as a PIM? I use Leo for all my data-management tasks. Imo, more features would not make Leo a substantially PIM. Many people seem to think that tags are essential, and perhaps Leo should have better support for tags. Otoh, p.v.u can represent tags very easily, and Terry surely has done a lot with tags. Rather than more features, I suggest people commune with Getting Things Done. It's sure boosted my productivity. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Census of Leo users interested in PIM capabilities
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:39:34 -0500 Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM, duf...@gmail.com wrote: As per title... are you interested in using Leo as a PIM? I use Leo for all my data-management tasks. Imo, more features would not make Leo a substantially PIM. Many people seem to think that tags are essential, and perhaps Leo should have better support for tags. Otoh, p.v.u can represent tags very easily, and Terry surely has done a lot with tags. Just for clarity, I haven't done anything with tags and Leo in what I'd consider any common usage of the term. Or any other way, I'm not sure what you're referring to. I have worked with tags in a couple of other, non-Leo projects, and they're kind of great when they're great and fiddly when they're fiddly. But like c.executeMinibufferCommand() I'm sure they could be useful for people not wanting to get right in to the internals. Cheers -Terry Rather than more features, I suggest people commune with Getting Things Done. It's sure boosted my productivity. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
