Re: Leo "in the wild" :-)

2015-03-19 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:24 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor <
leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> START: GIS gobbledegook
> QGis somehow fails to read the projection information from a .tif even
> though gdalinfo can read it, so I'm thinking there must be an easy way
> to create a separate world file for the the .tif
> END: GIS gobbledegook
>
> The solution, from Matt Wilkie :-) is here:
>
> http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/14545/how-to-generate-world-files-for-raster-x
>
> Which leads here:
>
> https://code.google.com/p/maphew/source/browse/gis/o4w_extras/bin/gdal-makeworld.py
>
> It was a bit disorienting, I thought I'd clicked the wrong link, seeing
> those Leo sentinels there :-)
>

​Maybe @clean will become more common in future.​

EKR

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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie :
> One of the more interesting sightings of "Leo in the Wild" I've come across:
>
> http://zoomquiet.org/
>
> Though reading Chinese would be useful to uncover just how Leo is involved!
> (Zoom has participated on the list before, perhaps this mention will
> persuade him to elaborate? ;-)
>
WoW!

- thanx for across me
- "Leo in the Wild"
- the Wild i guess means : just wild usage, never touch Leo resource code
- yeah! exactitude, that is me ;-)
- i usage Leo from 2004, base 4.2
- but untill Leo 4.3, almost one year late
- Leo break into my coding life
- because , after long time try and try, finally, one blink opened my brain
- i understanded :"What is Literate Programming"
- that feeling is so magic! so u creaded wiki for sharing it:
http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/LeoEnvironment
and
http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/LiterateProgramming
etc.

- and try to tell people, how the Leo can make Programming Literated

as slides:
http://zoomquiet.org/res/s5/060730-Leo%2blighTracker/060730-abtLeo/
http://zoomquiet.org/res/s5/100918-MyTools/rst2s5/

as records:
http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/zq2voice/060730-cpug_abt-leo.ogg
http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/060731-bpyug-leo
http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/100716-Leo-LiterateProgramming
http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/zq2voice/100930-snda-mytools
http://zoomquiet.org/res/m/r/pycon2011china-sh-120304/111203_pyconcn-qt-11-leo.MP3

- also publish words:
full version:
http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/ZqStudy/MyLearningSkill#Leo
the publish version:
《程序员》7月刊: 我的工具箱
http://www.programmer.com.cn/3484/
"programmer" the bigest tech magazine of China, the words had
published 2010 Jul.

of course, as most Chinese peogeammer
- i usage Leo begin windows NT->2003
- 2006 as Ubuntu
- from 2011 finally jump into MAC OS X 10.7

- so yes, i'm "Wild user of Leo"
- now i almost base Leo write every thing:
- code (py,js,css,xml...)
- words
- slides (rst2s5)
- blog (rst or md)
- PKM (personal knowledge manage)
- ...

BUT! in fact ,make more and more guys usage Leo is hard things, because:
1. Literate Programming/Editing/Writing is can not understanded, must use out!
2. Leo can not usage as Team!
- whatever @file/@shadow
- after through DVCS(hg/git/bzr etc.)
- Leo can not perfect merged others fixed into myself Leo node tree !

so i just can try and try, call on people feeling Leo and Literate Programming
can not make them happy and enjoy Leo in everywhere...


btw:
through here:
http://zoomquiet.org/obp-idx.html
maybe discovered, i try to translat Leo's doc:
http://zoomquiet.github.io/leo-doc-zh/leo_toc.html
but that is alwasy can not configed ok for Shpnix...
so sad for me.


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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Monday, October 21, 2013 3:43:02 AM UTC-5, Zoom.Quiet wrote:

2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie >: 
> > One of the more interesting sightings of "Leo in the Wild" I've come 
> across: 
> > 
> > http://zoomquiet.org/ 
> > 
> > Though reading Chinese would be useful to uncover just how Leo is 
> involved! 
> > (Zoom has participated on the list before, perhaps this mention will 
> > persuade him to elaborate? ;-) 
> > 
> WoW! 
>

It is we who should be saying wow :-)

Some very quick comments.

I suspect your slides and blogs are better than any in English.  Thanks for 
this work.

BUT! in fact ,make more and more guys usage Leo is hard things, because: 
> 1. Literate Programming/Editing/Writing is can not [understandable], must 
> use out! 
>

That's why Leo's docs don't use the term "Literate Programming" any more.
 

> 2. Leo can not usage as Team! 
> - whatever @file/@shadow 
> - after through DVCS(hg/git/bzr etc.) 
> - Leo can not perfect merged others fixed into myself Leo node tree ! 
>

I assume you meant that there are problems using .leo file with teams.  See:
http://leoeditor.com/FAQ.html#leo-in-shared-environments 
 

> maybe discovered, i try to translat Leo's doc: 
> http://zoomquiet.github.io/leo-doc-zh/leo_toc.html 
> but that is always can not configured ok for Sphinx... 
> so sad for me.
>

It would be *so* good to have Leo's docs translated to Chinese, even 
without sphinx formatting. LeoDocs.leo contains all of Leo's web site. I 
assume it would be possible to translate all the sections to Chinese.

Many thanks for all the good work you have done with Leo.  Maybe I should 
learn Chinese!

Edward

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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Matt Wilkie
thank you for the extended description and links :)

"In the wild" means something like "beyond the village" or "outside walls
of protected garden".



On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet  wrote:

> 2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie :
> > One of the more interesting sightings of "Leo in the Wild" I've come
> across:
> >
> > http://zoomquiet.org/
> >
> > Though reading Chinese would be useful to uncover just how Leo is
> involved!
> > (Zoom has participated on the list before, perhaps this mention will
> > persuade him to elaborate? ;-)
> >
> WoW!
>
> - thanx for across me
> - "Leo in the Wild"
> - the Wild i guess means : just wild usage, never touch Leo resource
> code
> - yeah! exactitude, that is me ;-)
> - i usage Leo from 2004, base 4.2
> - but untill Leo 4.3, almost one year late
> - Leo break into my coding life
> - because , after long time try and try, finally, one blink opened my
> brain
> - i understanded :"What is Literate Programming"
> - that feeling is so magic! so u creaded wiki for sharing it:
> http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/LeoEnvironment
> and
> http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/LiterateProgramming
> etc.
>
> - and try to tell people, how the Leo can make Programming Literated
>
> as slides:
> http://zoomquiet.org/res/s5/060730-Leo%2blighTracker/060730-abtLeo/
> http://zoomquiet.org/res/s5/100918-MyTools/rst2s5/
>
> as records:
> http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/zq2voice/060730-cpug_abt-leo.ogg
> http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/060731-bpyug-leo
> http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/100716-Leo-LiterateProgramming
> http://zoomq.qiniudn.com/CPyUG/zq2voice/100930-snda-mytools
>
> http://zoomquiet.org/res/m/r/pycon2011china-sh-120304/111203_pyconcn-qt-11-leo.MP3
>
> - also publish words:
> full version:
> http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/ZqStudy/MyLearningSkill#Leo
> the publish version:
> 《程序员》7月刊: 我的工具箱
> http://www.programmer.com.cn/3484/
> "programmer" the bigest tech magazine of China, the words had
> published 2010 Jul.
>
> of course, as most Chinese peogeammer
> - i usage Leo begin windows NT->2003
> - 2006 as Ubuntu
> - from 2011 finally jump into MAC OS X 10.7
>
> - so yes, i'm "Wild user of Leo"
> - now i almost base Leo write every thing:
> - code (py,js,css,xml...)
> - words
> - slides (rst2s5)
> - blog (rst or md)
> - PKM (personal knowledge manage)
> - ...
>
> BUT! in fact ,make more and more guys usage Leo is hard things, because:
> 1. Literate Programming/Editing/Writing is can not understanded, must use
> out!
> 2. Leo can not usage as Team!
> - whatever @file/@shadow
> - after through DVCS(hg/git/bzr etc.)
> - Leo can not perfect merged others fixed into myself Leo node tree !
>
> so i just can try and try, call on people feeling Leo and Literate
> Programming
> can not make them happy and enjoy Leo in everywhere...
>
>
> btw:
> through here:
> http://zoomquiet.org/obp-idx.html
> maybe discovered, i try to translat Leo's doc:
> http://zoomquiet.github.io/leo-doc-zh/leo_toc.html
> but that is alwasy can not configed ok for Shpnix...
> so sad for me.
>
>
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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet  wrote:

Please note Leo's new home address: http://leoeditor.com/

All links to http://webpages.charter.net are broken: in particular, the Leo
link at the bottom of http://zoomquiet.org/

Edward

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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2013/10/22 Edward K. Ream :
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet  wrote:
>
> Please note Leo's new home address: http://leoeditor.com/
>
> All links to http://webpages.charter.net are broken: in particular, the Leo
> link at the bottom of http://zoomquiet.org/
>

is must be;
but i very suggested:
- make 301 redirective for http://webpages.charter.net to http://leoeditor.com/
- because, there is sooo many sites copy my words about Leo
- but all linked the old uri
- and the google/bing etc. search enginer is also record as old link
- so if can auto jump from old uri into new
- whatever the people found leo words, can jump into right site .

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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread gatesphere
On 10/21/2013 9:36 PM, Zoom.Quiet wrote:
> 2013/10/22 Edward K. Ream :
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet  wrote:
>>
>> Please note Leo's new home address: http://leoeditor.com/
>>
>> All links to http://webpages.charter.net are broken: in particular, the Leo
>> link at the bottom of http://zoomquiet.org/
>>
> is must be;
> but i very suggested:
> - make 301 redirective for http://webpages.charter.net to 
> http://leoeditor.com/
> - because, there is sooo many sites copy my words about Leo
> - but all linked the old uri
> - and the google/bing etc. search enginer is also record as old link
> - so if can auto jump from old uri into new
> - whatever the people found leo words, can jump into right site .
Unfortunately, I think EKR doesn't have access to the old site anymore. :-/

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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2013/10/22 Edward K. Ream :
> On Monday, October 21, 2013 3:43:02 AM UTC-5, Zoom.Quiet wrote:
>> 2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie :
>> > One of the more interesting sightings of "Leo in the Wild" I've come
>> > across:
>> > http://zoomquiet.org/
>> >
>> > Though reading Chinese would be useful to uncover just how Leo is
>> > involved!
>> > (Zoom has participated on the list before, perhaps this mention will
>> > persuade him to elaborate? ;-)
>> >
>> WoW!
>
>
> It is we who should be saying wow :-)
>
> Some very quick comments.
>
> I suspect your slides and blogs are better than any in English.  Thanks for
> this work.
>

thanx again;
- but that is impossibility
- because Leo grown up so fast, even i usage Leo 8 years, but
there is soo many function i never learnning
- so all my public words/speech just try explanation Leo IS NOT
Vim/Emace/Eclipse/Virtual Stuido ...
- and i always try to find the way to make people can image out what
is Leo's magic feeling in 60 second
u know, i always fail the goal ...

>> 2. Leo can not usage as Team!
>> - whatever @file/@shadow
>> - after through DVCS(hg/git/bzr etc.)
>> - Leo can not perfect merged others fixed into myself Leo node tree !
>
> I assume you meant that there are problems using .leo file with teams.  See:
> http://leoeditor.com/FAQ.html#leo-in-shared-environments
>
thanx point the doc. i will learnning and try among teams

>>
>> maybe discovered, i try to translat Leo's doc:
>> http://zoomquiet.github.io/leo-doc-zh/leo_toc.html
>> but that is always can not configured ok for Sphinx...
>> so sad for me.
>
>
> It would be *so* good to have Leo's docs translated to Chinese, even without
> sphinx formatting. LeoDocs.leo contains all of Leo's web site. I assume it
> would be possible to translate all the sections to Chinese.
>

sure, must be
- so i'd fifth try to translated
- but i guess, i can found some guys working together,
- because, Leo is very fashion editor choice in Chinese
- maybe because, i point the Leo is my Slides edit environment , in
all my slides the last page ;-)

> Many thanks for all the good work you have done with Leo.  Maybe I should
> learn Chinese!
>

WoW that is wanderful idea!
- Chinese is very magic language
- if u can understanded 4000 in common use Chinese character
- so means u can understanded all paper in History ! even 5000 years ago papers
- for this point, i know the Chinese is the only one in earth!



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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Wilkie
>
> - if u can understanded 4000 in common use Chinese character
> - so means u can understanded all paper in History ! even 5000 years ago
> papers
>

I remember Larry Wall, creator of Perl, saying that Chinese writing was
fascinating to him because it was so portable. People in neighbouring
provinces can't talk to each other because they don't understand each
other, due to mutually incomprehensible dialects. Yet they can all read
each others newspapers!

I didn't know that this worked backwards in time for thousands of years as
well. Thanks for that info. :)

-matt

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Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-24 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2013/10/24 Matt Wilkie :
>> - if u can understanded 4000 in common use Chinese character
>> - so means u can understanded all paper in History ! even 5000 years ago
>> papers
>
>
> I remember Larry Wall, creator of Perl, saying that Chinese writing was
> fascinating to him because it was so portable. People in neighbouring
> provinces can't talk to each other because they don't understand each other,
> due to mutually incomprehensible dialects. Yet they can all read each others
> newspapers!
>
> I didn't know that this worked backwards in time for thousands of years as
> well. Thanks for that info. :)
>

this is OT now...
- in fact , Chinese 's so especial design, make the language is livin forever
- Chinese characters is three-in-one object (sense,sound,shape)
  - not like others language, the shape of characters, just mark out
how to sound it
  - Chinese characters shape, include self means, like one Integral
paint, point the characters original means
  - and with Contexts conditions, every one Chinese characters can
compiled new means!
- image one Computer Language, hold thousands keywords or meta class
   - means this Computer Language never upgrade, but can work well in any ages
- that 4000 in common use Chinese character, just the 4000 meta class
for China Life
- whatever the earth upgrade into any age, just uage same Chinese character
  - Chinese people can record/explain/description anything!
- same schematic, because the Chinese character never refactory in
thousands years
  - so make us can read any papers witch thousands years old
  - that is realy COOL !




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