dummy user for testsuites
Hello,
Currently in chapter 6 coreutils we have instructions to append a dummy
user to the /etc/{group,passwd} files so that we can run its test suite
properly. The test suite for bash also calls for an unprivileged user.
See: http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/1877
Does anyone see a problem with adding that dummy user/group to the
original /etc/{passwd,group} files, perhaps with a note explaining its
purpose? At the end of chapter 6 we would remove the user and group.
I'd like to get opinions before I work on the above ticket.
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Re: dummy user for testsuites
El Lunes, 2 de Abril de 2007 23:10, Jeremy Huntwork escribió:
Does anyone see a problem with adding that dummy user/group to the
original /etc/{passwd,group} files, perhaps with a note explaining its
purpose? At the end of chapter 6 we would remove the user and group.
Why not to use the nobody user for that tests?
There is recent thread about this same issue started by Robert Connolly:
http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-March/059171.html
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Re: dummy user for testsuites
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:41:19PM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: Why not to use the nobody user for that tests? There is recent thread about this same issue started by Robert Connolly: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-March/059171.html In principle that's fine - I'd rather not add unnecessary users and groups to the system. But then the nobody user is added with a shell of /bin/false. I suppose we could change that temporarily. I'm just not sure what the best answer is yet. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: dummy user for testsuites
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:41:19PM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: Why not to use the nobody user for that tests? There is recent thread about this same issue started by Robert Connolly: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-March/059171.html Woops. Disregard my last message. Obviously I didn't recall how this thread started and I didn't look at it again before my last reply. Looking into it further... -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: dummy user for testsuites
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Hello,
Currently in chapter 6 coreutils we have instructions to append a dummy
user to the /etc/{group,passwd} files so that we can run its test suite
properly. The test suite for bash also calls for an unprivileged user.
See: http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/1877
Does anyone see a problem with adding that dummy user/group to the
original /etc/{passwd,group} files, perhaps with a note explaining its
purpose? At the end of chapter 6 we would remove the user and group.
I'd like to get opinions before I work on the above ticket.
Personally, I think adding/deleting the temp users should be
encapsulated in the specific pages that need them. That was someone
wants to update or evaluate a specific package on a working systems,
they have all the instructions in one place.
After all a cat and a sed to add and delete the users should not be that
big a deal.
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Re: dummy user for testsuites
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 05:42:29PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Personally, I think adding/deleting the temp users should be encapsulated in the specific pages that need them. That was someone wants to update or evaluate a specific package on a working systems, they have all the instructions in one place. After all a cat and a sed to add and delete the users should not be that big a deal. Yes, I thought someone might say as much. And I can see your point. Still, the cat and sed - in fact the entire addition of another user - seems unnecessary. After re-reading the thread Manuel linked to where Robert suggests using the now-present nobody user, I think that's the way to go. And the addition of 'su' to /tools/bin in chapter 5 (as was suggested in ticket #1877) is unnecessary now because coreutils is installed before bash in chapter 6. What I think I'm going to do - unless someone has on objection - is add the commands 'su nobody -s /bin/bash -c ...' to both bash and coreutils in chapter 6. Will just do a quick test run here first before I commit. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: dummy user for testsuites
On Monday April 2 2007 22:22, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: And the addition of 'su' to /tools/bin in chapter 5 (as was suggested in ticket #1877) is unnecessary now because coreutils is installed before bash in chapter 6. What I think I'm going to do - unless someone has on objection - is add the commands 'su nobody -s /bin/bash -c ...' to both bash and coreutils in chapter 6. Chapter 6's Coreutils /bin/su will be overwritten by Shadow's, which isn't a big deal, but it's not very elegant. I personally prefer to install Chapter 5's /tools/bin/tools-su simply so that packages are not overwriting eachothers files in Chapter 6... it's a bad precedent. It also adds the complication of writing the Coreutils page so that users can reinstall Coreutils after Shadow, without losing the PAM-compatible 'su' from Shadow. robert pgp7GmdMArC3D.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: dummy user for testsuites
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:47:57PM -0400, Robert Connolly wrote: Chapter 6's Coreutils /bin/su will be overwritten by Shadow's, which isn't a big deal, but it's not very elegant. I personally prefer to install Chapter 5's /tools/bin/tools-su simply so that packages are not overwriting eachothers files in Chapter 6... it's a bad precedent. It also adds the complication of writing the Coreutils page so that users can reinstall Coreutils after Shadow, without losing the PAM-compatible 'su' from Shadow. Ah, of course you're right. I forgot about the suppress patch which keeps the su from coreutils from being installed in chapter 6. We would still need the temporary su from chapter 5. It would be no problem to drop that in, though. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
