Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit

2019-10-14 Thread geist1...@juno.com


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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:03:49 GMT




-- Original Message --
From: "Paul Rogers" 
To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 14:48:52 -0700

> Can You either send me the Link for knoppix 5.1.x that You used or is a 
> good link to a bootable source, or send me via github a copy of what 
> You have ?? That would boot   knoppix on the 586..

I can, but I won't--tough love, Baby!  Just to make sure it was still online I 
asked Google for "knoppix 5 iso" and it popped right up.  Likewise I'm not 
going to try to teach you how to use Mint.  Way above the purpose of this list, 
or the time I'm able to dedicate.  You're going to have to have initiative to 
climb this mountain.  We've all done it.  It's up to you to get yourself to the 
top.  I've helped quite enough.

BTW, you've seen my Second Law in my tagline.  My Third Law is: There is no 
such thing as teaching--there is only learning.

-- 
Paul Rogers
paulgrog...@fastmail.fm
Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."
(I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-)
--Hi Paul;
 
I Understand..
"" Just to make sure it was still online I asked 
Google for "knoppix 5 iso" and it popped right up.  Likewise I'm not going to 
try to teach you how to use Mint. ""

I don't think I ever asked about Learning about Mint..
But, You did help me, I think I may have been googling for the wrong thing, 
I didn't  know I was not asking correctly..
Google for "knoppix 5 iso" and it popped right up. That I can do..THANK YOU 
Marty 
Hi all;
 
Paul, I won't bother you any more, I will figure it out on my own..
I am Sorry I inconvenienced You..
 
Have a Good time and I wish You all the Best..
 
THANK YOU Marty
 

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Re: [lfs-support] v9.0 Chptr 6.21 GCC configure returns: "Building GCC requires GMP 4.2+, MPFR 2.4.0+ and MPC 0.8.0+"

2019-10-14 Thread Trent


On 10/14/19 1:22 PM, Ken Moffat wrote:

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 09:26:47PM -0500, Trent wrote:

What a firestorm I created!


Firestorm ?  Just comments.  But maybe you were being humorous.


Actually, facetious ;-)




Anyway, thanks to help from here, I am now sitting at Chapter 8.3. Wondering
and debating a couple of things.

The debate is whether to change out the default Tux logo with one of mine
own, and what to use.


I would suggest that you first boot the system to make sure it
works.  After that, play with the logo when you next update the
kernel (except on production servers, frequent kernel updates are
good IMHO but always carry a risk of breakage).

Also, on modern software the default Tux only appears briefly.  On
my haswell i7 I see it for a few seconds during boots and during
resume from hibernation.  On machines which need a lot of firmware
for the graphics (amdgpu, R600) I now put that firmware in
/lib/firmware for late-loading rather than waste RAM in the kernel.
But this means that I rarely see the logo.

ĸen



I went ahead and just built it. It sort of booted with a Kernel panic.

It was easy to find out why.  I had built it on a flash drive then tried 
to boot it.  There should be a section/caveat  on the now popular option 
of booting off a USB flash drives.


Thanks again!

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Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit

2019-10-14 Thread geist1...@juno.com


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul Rogers" 
To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 14:48:52 -0700

> Can You either send me the Link for knoppix 5.1.x that You used or is a 
> good link to a bootable source, or send me via github a copy of what 
> You have ?? That would boot   knoppix on the 586..

I can, but I won't--tough love, Baby!  Just to make sure it was still online I 
asked Google for "knoppix 5 iso" and it popped right up.  Likewise I'm not 
going to try to teach you how to use Mint.  Way above the purpose of this list, 
or the time I'm able to dedicate.  You're going to have to have initiative to 
climb this mountain.  We've all done it.  It's up to you to get yourself to the 
top.  I've helped quite enough.

BTW, you've seen my Second Law in my tagline.  My Third Law is: There is no 
such thing as teaching--there is only learning.

-- 
Paul Rogers
paulgrog...@fastmail.fm
Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."
(I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-)
--
Hi Paul;
 
I Understand..
"" Just to make sure it was still online I asked 
Google for "knoppix 5 iso" and it popped right up.  Likewise I'm not going to 
try to teach you how to use Mint. ""

I don't think I ever asked about Learning about Mint..
But, You did help me, I think I may have been googling for the wrong thing, 
I didn't  know I was not asking correctly..
Google for "knoppix 5 iso" and it popped right up. That I can do..THANK YOU 
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Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit

2019-10-14 Thread Paul Rogers
> Can You either send me the Link for knoppix 5.1.x that You used or is a 
> good link to a bootable source, or send me via github a copy of what 
> You have ?? That would boot   knoppix on the 586..

I can, but I won't--tough love, Baby!  Just to make sure it was still online I 
asked Google for "knoppix 5 iso" and it popped right up.  Likewise I'm not 
going to try to teach you how to use Mint.  Way above the purpose of this list, 
or the time I'm able to dedicate.  You're going to have to have initiative to 
climb this mountain.  We've all done it.  It's up to you to get yourself to the 
top.  I've helped quite enough.

BTW, you've seen my Second Law in my tagline.  My Third Law is: There is no 
such thing as teaching--there is only learning.

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Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit

2019-10-14 Thread geist1...@juno.com


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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 19:21:06 GMT




-- Original Message --
From: "Paul Rogers" 
To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:03:26 -0700

> Yes, Linux Mint 5 did pass all of the requirements of Chapter 4, and 
> the fact that I like Linux Mint , was what made it so appealing to me, 
> for this project..

Why?  The only advantage Mint has over any other distro is its desktop.  For 
building LFS that is irrelevant, even something of a disadvantage!  All the 
instructions in the book are bash commands.  At best you'll be working in a 
terminal emulator, where you'll have X, the desktop, and the emulator stealing 
processor power and adding a possible source of interference, contamination and 
confusion.  The closer you can get to "bare iron" the better off you'll be, out 
of X and at the bash command line.  That means no "cut and paste".

As I wrote before, I recommend doing all that "in preparation", making bash 
scripts for each package.  I spend *weeks* doing that for both LFS and BLFS 
before building any package, even laying down the root directory tree.  (There 
are 418 scripts in my build directory for this system.  (I put a sequence 
number in each name to keep it straight which one comes next.))  After all, 
once you build LFS, you'll want to boot it to build all the BLFS packages in 
your pure, clean, uncontaminated LFS, and it'll be a long time before you'll 
have X!  It's like being a cook in a Chinese restaurant--they spend hours 
preparing ingredients, *before* they blast flame at a wok, heat oil, dump in 
ingredients and stir like mad, cooking each dish in just a minute or so.

When I have to go back and startover, which STILL can happen, it's *WAY* faster 
than cut and paste, and provides perfect documentation how the system was 
built--both great advantages!

If you "like" Mint for building LFS, you've already started on the wrong foot.

-- 
Paul Rogers
paulgrog...@fastmail.fm
Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."
(I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-)
--Hi Paul;
 
"" As I wrote before, I recommend doing all that "in preparation", making bash 
scripts for each package.  I spend *weeks* doing that for both LFS and BLFS 
before building any package, even laying down the root directory tree.  (There 
are 418 scripts in my build directory for this system.  (I put a sequence 
number in each name to keep it straight which one comes next.)) ""

I don't know 'How to do that' Would You Please give me some examples ??

"" At best you'll be working in a terminal emulator, where you'll have X, 
the desktop, and the emulator stealing processor power 
and adding a possible source of interference, contamination and confusion.  
The closer you can get to "bare iron" the better off you'll be, 
out of X and at the bash command line. ""

I didn't Realize that, but Now I see (Understand)..

Also as a side note, I changed my Memory Sticks and instead of 393216 KB, 
I now have 524288 KB of Memory..

Which explains alot..

THANK YOU Marty
 
P. S., I am currently running Memtest86 4.3.7..
 
And I will try LFS Live CD 6.3, again, and see about making my way thru that..
 
THANK YOU Marty

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Re: [lfs-support] Bash: /usr/{literally everything}: no such file or directory

2019-10-14 Thread Douglas R. Reno


On 10/14/19 2:06 PM, Jared Stevens wrote:


We need to address the "no such file or directory" problem first.
Can you run:

ldd /bin/ls

Please and get back to us with the results? What you should get
(used on an SVN system):

renodr [ /sources ]$ ldd /bin/ls
    linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffe3b1e8000)
    libcap.so.2 => /lib/libcap.so.2 (0x7fcfff8c)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7fcfff6fc000)
    /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7fcfff8e2000)

I believe that your glibc installation might be corrupt. If your
glibc install is corrupt, try using this:

sln libc-2.30.so  /lib/libc.so.6

And then running 'ldconfig'.

We've made some progress!

So the initial output of *'ldd /bin/ls'* was:

*bash: /usr/bin/ldd : /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or 
directory*


And the output of '*sin libc-2.30.so  
/lib/libc.so.6'* was:


*bash: sin: command not found*

Regardless, I ran the*'ldconfig' *command anyways and after a brief 
pause was given the following output:


*ldconfig: Cannot mmap file /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so*

HOWEVER, following this command I was finally able to run commands in 
the /bin directory once again (such as 'ls'), and the output of*'ldd 
/bin/ls'* changed to:


*linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffea7f1a000)
libcap.so.2 => /lib/libcap.so.2 (0x7f1b55ef5000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f1b55d31000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f1b55f1f000)*

Unfortunately, the 'sin' command still outputs the same result. So now 
it appears there is an issue with the libdbus file.


My PATH variable was also restored to how it was before these events 
took place:


*PATH=/opt/rustc/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/opt/ant/bin:/opt/jdk/bin:/opt/qt5/bin*

So while everything but that one error with libdbus looks back to 
normal for the moment, I am afraid to try and install (or reinstall) 
anything or change any file locations or settings until I know for 
sure this issue is resolved.


What would you recommend my next steps going forward should be to fix 
libdbus and ensure this issue has been fixed? Furthermore, as I have 
made it this far and you have the experience, what should I do to 
finish the transition from System V to systemd smoothly to avoid 
another potential catastrophe such as this?


As for the dbus problem, try running:

ln -sv ../../lib/libdbus-1.so.3.19.11 /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so

Make sure that you have that library in /lib first

As for some further advice on the sysv to systemd transition, be 
prepared to rebuild X from scratch. You might encounter problems if 
ConsoleKit is installed too. If you have elogind installed, please 
uninstall it. You'll want to rebuild Xorg Libraries, Xorg Applications, 
and xorg-server at minimum (and that should do the trick...)


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Re: [lfs-support] Bash: /usr/{literally everything}: no such file or directory

2019-10-14 Thread Jared Stevens
>
>
> sln != sin
>

Thank you for the clarification. I ran the two commands as specified.
However, I still receive the error about not being able to mmap
libdbus-1.so.

I even went through and reinstalled dbus-1.12.16 (according to the BLFS
instructions not LFS as I had the necessary dependencies), yet the message
still displays when running ldconfig.

The good news is that the issue did not manifest itself again after logging
out and reentering the chroot environment. Whether or not the issue is
truly resolved however will likely depend on how it acts once I am able to
boot into the system again. (I am experiencing a separate issue with GRUB
not being loaded/detected on boot despite the boot option appearing in my
PC BIOS).

Any suggestions to resolving the libdbus error and completing the
transition from System V to systemd? I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

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Re: [lfs-support] Bash: /usr/{literally everything}: no such file or directory

2019-10-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:06:35PM -0400, Jared Stevens wrote:
> > We need to address the "no such file or directory" problem first. Can you
> > run:
> >
> > ldd /bin/ls
> >
> > Please and get back to us with the results? What you should get (used on
> > an SVN system):
> >
> > renodr [ /sources ]$ ldd /bin/ls
> > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffe3b1e8000)
> > libcap.so.2 => /lib/libcap.so.2 (0x7fcfff8c)
> > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7fcfff6fc000)
> > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7fcfff8e2000)
> >
> > I believe that your glibc installation might be corrupt. If your glibc
> > install is corrupt, try using this:
> >
> > sln libc-2.30.so /lib/libc.so.6
> >
> > And then running 'ldconfig'.
> >
> We've made some progress!
> 
> So the initial output of *'ldd /bin/ls'* was:
> 
> *bash: /usr/bin/ldd : /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory*
> 
> And the output of '*sin libc-2.30.so  /lib/libc.so.6'*
> was:
> 
> *bash: sin: command not found*
> 
sin ?  Maybe you need a better font ;-)
Specifically, one which distinguishes lowercase I from lowercase L.

> Regardless, I ran the* 'ldconfig' *command anyways and after a brief pause
> was given the following output:
> 
> *ldconfig: Cannot mmap file /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so*
> 
> HOWEVER, following this command I was finally able to run commands in the
> /bin directory once again (such as 'ls'), and the output of* 'ldd /bin/ls'*
> changed to:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffea7f1a000) libcap.so.2 => /lib/libcap.so.2
> (0x7f1b55ef5000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f1b55d31000)
> /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f1b55f1f000)*
> 
> Unfortunately, the 'sin' command still outputs the same result. So now it
> appears there is an issue with the libdbus file.
> 

sln != sin

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Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit

2019-10-14 Thread geist1...@juno.com


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul Rogers" 
To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:03:26 -0700

> Yes, Linux Mint 5 did pass all of the requirements of Chapter 4, and 
> the fact that I like Linux Mint , was what made it so appealing to me, 
> for this project..

Why?  The only advantage Mint has over any other distro is its desktop.  For 
building LFS that is irrelevant, even something of a disadvantage!  All the 
instructions in the book are bash commands.  At best you'll be working in a 
terminal emulator, where you'll have X, the desktop, and the emulator stealing 
processor power and adding a possible source of interference, contamination and 
confusion.  The closer you can get to "bare iron" the better off you'll be, out 
of X and at the bash command line.  That means no "cut and paste".

As I wrote before, I recommend doing all that "in preparation", making bash 
scripts for each package.  I spend *weeks* doing that for both LFS and BLFS 
before building any package, even laying down the root directory tree.  (There 
are 418 scripts in my build directory for this system.  (I put a sequence 
number in each name to keep it straight which one comes next.))  After all, 
once you build LFS, you'll want to boot it to build all the BLFS packages in 
your pure, clean, uncontaminated LFS, and it'll be a long time before you'll 
have X!  It's like being a cook in a Chinese restaurant--they spend hours 
preparing ingredients, *before* they blast flame at a wok, heat oil, dump in 
ingredients and stir like mad, cooking each dish in just a minute or so.

When I have to go back and startover, which STILL can happen, it's *WAY* faster 
than cut and paste, and provides perfect documentation how the system was 
built--both great advantages!

If you "like" Mint for building LFS, you've already started on the wrong foot.

-- 
Paul Rogers
paulgrog...@fastmail.fm
Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."
(I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-)
--
Hi Paul;
 
"" As I wrote before, I recommend doing all that "in preparation", making bash 
scripts for each package.  I spend *weeks* doing that for both LFS and BLFS 
before building any package, even laying down the root directory tree.  (There 
are 418 scripts in my build directory for this system.  (I put a sequence 
number in each name to keep it straight which one comes next.)) ""

I don't know 'How to do that' Would You Please give me some examples ??

"" At best you'll be working in a terminal emulator, where you'll have X, 
the desktop, and the emulator stealing processor power 
and adding a possible source of interference, contamination and confusion.  
The closer you can get to "bare iron" the better off you'll be, 
out of X and at the bash command line. ""

I didn't Realize that, but Now I see (Understand)..

Also as a side note, I changed my Memory Sticks and instead of 393216 KB, 
I now have 524288 KB of Memory..

Which explains alot..

THANK YOU Marty

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Re: [lfs-support] v9.0 Chptr 6.21 GCC configure returns: "Building GCC requires GMP 4.2+, MPFR 2.4.0+ and MPC 0.8.0+"

2019-10-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 09:26:47PM -0500, Trent wrote:
> 
> What a firestorm I created!
> 
Firestorm ?  Just comments.  But maybe you were being humorous.

> Just for all your information, I am using Thunderbird which I see does
> automatically remove the footer when I reply. I am also clicking on that
> clear and obvious button which states "Reply List." Many other email clients
> do not have that, even overpriced Microsoft Outlook. So in the past, I have
> used that client, and many times accidentally replied directly to the person
> responding. Maybe the mail list server should be stripping that out, or
> instead adding in a "reply to" so it goes to the list, and not the person's
> email?
> 

The basic problem is modern anti-spam attempts which conflict badly
with traditional mailing list software (DKIM etc).  And changes tend
to have side-effects.

> 
> Anyway, thanks to help from here, I am now sitting at Chapter 8.3. Wondering
> and debating a couple of things.
> 
> The debate is whether to change out the default Tux logo with one of mine
> own, and what to use.
> 

I would suggest that you first boot the system to make sure it
works.  After that, play with the logo when you next update the
kernel (except on production servers, frequent kernel updates are
good IMHO but always carry a risk of breakage).

Also, on modern software the default Tux only appears briefly.  On
my haswell i7 I see it for a few seconds during boots and during
resume from hibernation.  On machines which need a lot of firmware
for the graphics (amdgpu, R600) I now put that firmware in
/lib/firmware for late-loading rather than waste RAM in the kernel.
But this means that I rarely see the logo.

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Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit

2019-10-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:10:51AM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
[...]
> From: "Paul Rogers" 
> 
> p.s. Can you be more parsimonious about what you quote as the relevant part 
> you're responding to.  It's difficult to follow your posts.
> 

+1 to this.  And Marty, when you include somebody else's text
*please* can you quote it ('>' or even '|' at the start of each
line) to make it easier for people to see who wrote what.

In decent text mailers the different levels of quoting get
highlighted in different colours.  That helps clarify *who* wrote
what when multiple people are contributing to the thread.

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Re: [lfs-support] Bash: /usr/{literally everything}: no such file or directory

2019-10-14 Thread Douglas R. Reno


On 10/14/19 12:33 AM, Jared Stevens wrote:
So I have little doubt that I have somehow managed to completely ruin 
my LFS build and will likely have to start all over again (for what 
will be the fourth time). I figured I would throw one last Hail Mary 
and ask in here for any suggestions, however, before giving up on 
two/three weeks of hard work.


So just a little backstory, I initially built my LFS system using the 
*System V *version of the book. I was able to boot and had made 
progress all the way up to Xorg.


However, I was having issues with getting certain modules/services to 
load and run properly on my system, and having no experience 
whatsoever with System V (only systemd in my past experiences with 
Linux), I decided to see if I could*switch my system over to systemd.*


Initially, there weren't any problems. I was able to install 
Systemd-241 no problem, and I moved the rc.d and init.d directories 
elsewhere to hopefully prevent any old scripts from being called.


Of course this now meant that I had to reinstall certain programs and 
their systemd symlinks as opposed to the System V bootscripts. I had 
been doing this for most of the day today with little issue.


While I was looking back over previously installed programs for 
changes from System V to systemd, I noticed the section in LFS's 
Glibc-230 install where it calls for _systemd support files for 
_*_nscd_, *which were not installed when I initially built Glibc-230.


Here is where I made my first mistake: to install the support files 
for *nscd*, I assumed I would have to re-make the *GLibc* package and 
install them. So to follow the LFS book's commands properly (where it 
uses "CC="gcc -ffile-prefix-map=/tools=/usr" before the configure) I 
extracted my saved "tools" directory I had saved from the build back 
into my LFS build in chroot and reran the configure, make, and make 
check commands for GLibc.


To avoid potential problems and because my existing GLibc install was 
working fine, however, I did NOT run "make install." Instead, I ran 
just the install commands for nscd as follows:


install -v -Dm644 ../nscd/nscd.tmpfiles
/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nscd.conf
install -v -Dm644 ../nscd/nscd.service
/lib/systemd/system/nscd.service

Afterwards, I removed the GLibc directory and attempted to continue 
with my transfer to systemd. However, this is when all hell broke loose.


Now, whenever I enter the chroot environment (haven't even tried 
booting the thing because I doubt I could), although I can login as 
root and mount all of the disk partitions properly, Bash cannot find 
absolutely anything in the /usr, /sbin, or /bin directories any longer.


For example, I will receive the following error for simple commands 
such as 'ls':


bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory

This is despite the fact that such file DOES in fact exist. Assuming I 
had messed up my $PATH variable, I tried restoring it by executing:


export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

However, this did not fix my issue. I tried retracing my steps in LFS 
to see if a symlink was broken or something, but even though I can run 
'ls' and other commands when running off of the /tools bash symlink, 
attempts at running the normal bash is completely broken.


I haven't the slightest clue what I did wrong to affect Bash during 
the GLibc systemd attempted fix as I never touched bash until after 
the problem manifested (I may have made it worse while trying to fix 
it, however). Furthermore, I never overwrote my existing GLibc install.


I appreciate any suggestions that may help with my problem. I also 
accept if I have managed to royally destroy my build and would be 
better off starting over again as well.


Hi Jared,

Firstly, I don't recommend moving from SysV to systemd on the same 
build, however it is possible and I used to do it. We need to address 
the "no such file or directory" problem first. Can you run:


ldd /bin/ls

Please and get back to us with the results? What you should get (used on 
an SVN system):


renodr [ /sources ]$ ldd /bin/ls
    linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffe3b1e8000)
    libcap.so.2 => /lib/libcap.so.2 (0x7fcfff8c)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7fcfff6fc000)
    /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7fcfff8e2000)

I believe that your glibc installation might be corrupt. If your glibc 
install is corrupt, try using this:


sln libc-2.30.so /lib/libc.so.6

And then running 'ldconfig'.


The reason why this might fix it is that 'sln' is linked statically so 
that you can use it in the event that the dynamic linker is not 
available or functioning properly. It was written to fix broken glibc 
installations so that you're not stuck completely rebuilding your system.


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Re: [lfs-support] Bash: /usr/{literally everything}: no such file or directory

2019-10-14 Thread Trent


On 10/14/19 12:33 AM, Jared Stevens wrote:
So I have little doubt that I have somehow managed to completely ruin 
my LFS build and will likely have to start all over again (for what 
will be the fourth time). I figured I would throw one last Hail Mary 
and ask in here for any suggestions, however, before giving up on 
two/three weeks of hard work.


So just a little backstory, I initially built my LFS system using the 
*System V *version of the book. I was able to boot and had made 
progress all the way up to Xorg.


However, I was having issues with getting certain modules/services to 
load and run properly on my system, and having no experience 
whatsoever with System V (only systemd in my past experiences with 
Linux), I decided to see if I could*switch my system over to systemd.*


Initially, there weren't any problems. I was able to install 
Systemd-241 no problem, and I moved the rc.d and init.d directories 
elsewhere to hopefully prevent any old scripts from being called.


Of course this now meant that I had to reinstall certain programs and 
their systemd symlinks as opposed to the System V bootscripts. I had 
been doing this for most of the day today with little issue.


While I was looking back over previously installed programs for 
changes from System V to systemd, I noticed the section in LFS's 
Glibc-230 install where it calls for _systemd support files for 
_*_nscd_, *which were not installed when I initially built Glibc-230.


Here is where I made my first mistake: to install the support files 
for *nscd*, I assumed I would have to re-make the *GLibc* package and 
install them. So to follow the LFS book's commands properly (where it 
uses "CC="gcc -ffile-prefix-map=/tools=/usr" before the configure) I 
extracted my saved "tools" directory I had saved from the build back 
into my LFS build in chroot and reran the configure, make, and make 
check commands for GLibc.


To avoid potential problems and because my existing GLibc install was 
working fine, however, I did NOT run "make install." Instead, I ran 
just the install commands for nscd as follows:


install -v -Dm644 ../nscd/nscd.tmpfiles
/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nscd.conf
install -v -Dm644 ../nscd/nscd.service
/lib/systemd/system/nscd.service

Afterwards, I removed the GLibc directory and attempted to continue 
with my transfer to systemd. However, this is when all hell broke loose.


Now, whenever I enter the chroot environment (haven't even tried 
booting the thing because I doubt I could), although I can login as 
root and mount all of the disk partitions properly, Bash cannot find 
absolutely anything in the /usr, /sbin, or /bin directories any longer.


For example, I will receive the following error for simple commands 
such as 'ls':


bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory

This is despite the fact that such file DOES in fact exist. Assuming I 
had messed up my $PATH variable, I tried restoring it by executing:


export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

However, this did not fix my issue. I tried retracing my steps in LFS 
to see if a symlink was broken or something, but even though I can run 
'ls' and other commands when running off of the /tools bash symlink, 
attempts at running the normal bash is completely broken.


I haven't the slightest clue what I did wrong to affect Bash during 
the GLibc systemd attempted fix as I never touched bash until after 
the problem manifested (I may have made it worse while trying to fix 
it, however). Furthermore, I never overwrote my existing GLibc install.


I appreciate any suggestions that may help with my problem. I also 
accept if I have managed to royally destroy my build and would be 
better off starting over again as well.


Thanks,

Jared



I am sure you will get better responses from others later, but my 1/2 
cent here is.


I was just reading something the other day to the effect of once you 
start messing with those libraries/library folders, you will have to 
rebuild every application which depend on those libraries.


You may want to start again. The current one I am building of version 9, 
I have rebuilt about five times already within the past week. What I 
have done is copied all the commands into a text file as I am building 
it. Yes, sometimes there are mistakes in it which I do find later which 
is partially the reason for building multiple times.


This has allowed me to make sections into scripts once I know there are 
no more mistakes/errors in it. Run it and go do other things.


Trent

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Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit

2019-10-14 Thread Paul Rogers
> Yes, Linux Mint 5 did pass all of the requirements of Chapter 4, and 
> the fact that I like Linux Mint , was what made it so appealing to me, 
> for this project..

Why?  The only advantage Mint has over any other distro is its desktop.  For 
building LFS that is irrelevant, even something of a disadvantage!  All the 
instructions in the book are bash commands.  At best you'll be working in a 
terminal emulator, where you'll have X, the desktop, and the emulator stealing 
processor power and adding a possible source of interference, contamination and 
confusion.  The closer you can get to "bare iron" the better off you'll be, out 
of X and at the bash command line.  That means no "cut and paste".

As I wrote before, I recommend doing all that "in preparation", making bash 
scripts for each package.  I spend *weeks* doing that for both LFS and BLFS 
before building any package, even laying down the root directory tree.  (There 
are 418 scripts in my build directory for this system.  (I put a sequence 
number in each name to keep it straight which one comes next.))  After all, 
once you build LFS, you'll want to boot it to build all the BLFS packages in 
your pure, clean, uncontaminated LFS, and it'll be a long time before you'll 
have X!  It's like being a cook in a Chinese restaurant--they spend hours 
preparing ingredients, *before* they blast flame at a wok, heat oil, dump in 
ingredients and stir like mad, cooking each dish in just a minute or so.

When I have to go back and startover, which STILL can happen, it's *WAY* faster 
than cut and paste, and provides perfect documentation how the system was 
built--both great advantages!

If you "like" Mint for building LFS, you've already started on the wrong foot.

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