Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[xinglp]

2017-03-10 21:48 GMT+08:00 Aaron Bains :
> I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I have made my
> tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build the packages for
> the final system.
>
> I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD, since I want
> my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the LiveCD, I would
> compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain) and make install to
> the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have a very minimal GUI to
> run a basic webcam package.
In fact, now days, we rarely use CD.
I found someone did the similar things, it has drop support for CD.
Just download the *-image.tar.xz file from here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lfsp200/files/
Extract it, 'dd' the bigest file inside to U disk, and you got a
LiveUSB. But it has no gui.
And it seems also support ipxe boot.
>
> Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in Chapter 6
> of the LFS documentation? Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because
> of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need those? I am
> under the impression that when I run make and make install that it puts all
> the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't need these packages
> that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't intend to compile
> packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me know if I am on the
> right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.
>
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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Aaron Bains]

 wrote:


Tim's approach is your very best option. This is what I was thinking when I
read your initial post, but I've never done anything like that... though it
seems very feasible.

You WILL chroot.

You WILL build Chapter 6 IN ITS ENTIRETY.

You WILL, additionally, DESTDIR install anything you want on your LiveCD.



Okay perfect, yes now I understand that I need to chroot into the LFS
system still. I'll give this method a try, thanks everyone!

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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Roger Frost]

On 3/10/2017 2:08 PM, Aaron Bains wrote:
No I don't have all the answers I'm just trying understand the best approach to 
a liveCD based system without needing extra compiling tools on the LiveCD. I 
was under the impression that once you compile (make) a package from source 
with your toolchain that it doesn't require the toolchain after that. But what 
it does need are any dependencies from libraries, which we would need to 
install before installing the package we want. It has been said that chapter 6 
is building more of the required packages that we will need for other packages, 
so in other words just common dependencies and common compiling tools?

Aaron Bains, CPA, CA



Tim's approach is your very best option. This is what I was thinking when I 
read your initial post, but I've never done anything like that... though it 
seems very feasible.

You WILL chroot.

You WILL build Chapter 6 IN ITS ENTIRETY.

You WILL, additionally, DESTDIR install anything you want on your LiveCD.




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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Bruce Dubbs]

Aaron Bains wrote:

No I don't have all the answers I'm just trying understand the best
approach to a liveCD based system without needing extra compiling tools on
the LiveCD. I was under the impression that once you compile (make) a
package from source with your toolchain that it doesn't require the
toolchain after that. But what it does need are any dependencies from
libraries, which we would need to install before installing the package we
want. It has been said that chapter 6 is building more of the required
packages that we will need for other packages, so in other words just
common dependencies and common compiling tools?



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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Aaron Bains]

No I don't have all the answers I'm just trying understand the best
approach to a liveCD based system without needing extra compiling tools on
the LiveCD. I was under the impression that once you compile (make) a
package from source with your toolchain that it doesn't require the
toolchain after that. But what it does need are any dependencies from
libraries, which we would need to install before installing the package we
want. It has been said that chapter 6 is building more of the required
packages that we will need for other packages, so in other words just
common dependencies and common compiling tools?

Aaron Bains, CPA, CA

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Roger Frost  wrote:

>
>
> On 3/10/2017 1:29 PM, Aaron Bains wrote:
>
> Tim, yes that's what I'm getting at. Basically I wouldn't be chrooted into
> the LFS system. I build the tool chain on the host and make install destdir
> all my desired packages to the mounted LFS system. This would save lots of
> space resulting in a very small OS. Pretty sure this is how embedded Linux
> systems are made with cross compiling toolchains.
>
>
> But you will chroot, or else your packages will be dependent upon
> /mnt/lfs/tools as Bruce explained to you initially.
>
> Anything else, and you're not building Linux From Scratch. Based on your
> goal, I'm not sure why you need Chapter 5 either.
>
> Anyway, it seems like you already have all of the answers to your own
> questions... So I say go for it dude! ...and be sure to report back how it
> works out for you!
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2017 1:44 PM, "Tim Tassonis"  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 03/10/2017 07:17 PM, Aaron Bains wrote:
>>
>>> But if I'm getting and building all the packages on the host and
>>> installing them on LFS, why would LFS need wget, etc. Im assuming LFS
>>> would only need the basic stuff such as glibc and Linux headers and
>>> coreutils and bash and their dependencies. I wouldn't expect minimal
>>> systems like tinycore or http://minimal.linux-bg.org systems using
>>> busybox to require all those packages in chapter 6, unless they intended
>>> to compile packages and download them and install all right on the
>>> system.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The difference of your proposed solution to the "proper" LFS way is that
>> LFS will gradually override the tools stuff with stuff from chapter 6 and
>> later stuff in Chapter 6 depends on earlier stuff in Chapter 6. The tools
>> stuff is not enough for every package in chapter 6 and definitely not
>> enough for additional blfs stuff. This will leave you with unresolved
>> dependencies.
>>
>> I'd suggest you go for "best of both worlds": First, you do a normal
>>
>> make install
>>
>> to /usr etc, as described in the book, and right after that, you do a
>>
>> make DESTDIR=/path/to/your/livecd/root install
>>
>> for any packages you want on your livecd. That's what I basically did on
>> my first lfs install. Now, I use a package manager and then install the
>> packages, but for a first try, it would be wise to follow the book until
>> you fully understand all the reasons why lfs does it as described. Which
>> you obviously don't.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>> Aaron Bains, CPA, CA
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2017 12:04 PM, "Bruce Dubbs" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Aaron Bains wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I
>>> have made
>>> my tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build
>>> the
>>> packages for the final system.
>>>
>>> I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD,
>>> since I
>>> want my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the
>>> LiveCD, I
>>> would compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain)
>>> and |make
>>> install| to the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have
>>> a very
>>> minimal GUI to run a basic webcam package.
>>>
>>> Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in
>>> Chapter 6
>>> of the LFS documentation?
>>>
>>>
>>> No. After Chapter 5 packages will be dependent on /mnt/lfs/tools and
>>> your system will not boot.  You will not have any networking or way
>>> to get packages (e.g. wget, etc).
>>>
>>> Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because
>>>
>>> of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need
>>> those? I am
>>> under the impression that when I run |make| and |make install|
>>> that it
>>> puts all the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't
>>> need these
>>> packages that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't
>>> intend to
>>> compile packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me
>>> know if I am
>>> on the right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> You can try it, but I'm highly doubtful for the above 

Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Roger Frost]

On 3/10/2017 1:29 PM, Aaron Bains wrote:
Tim, yes that's what I'm getting at. Basically I wouldn't be chrooted into the 
LFS system. I build the tool chain on the host and make install destdir all my 
desired packages to the mounted LFS system. This would save lots of space 
resulting in a very small OS. Pretty sure this is how embedded Linux systems 
are made with cross compiling toolchains.


But you will chroot, or else your packages will be dependent upon 
/mnt/lfs/tools as Bruce explained to you initially.

Anything else, and you're not building Linux From Scratch. Based on your goal, 
I'm not sure why you need Chapter 5 either.

Anyway, it seems like you already have all of the answers to your own 
questions... So I say go for it dude! ...and be sure to report back how it 
works out for you!



On Mar 10, 2017 1:44 PM, "Tim Tassonis" 
mailto:st...@decentral.ch>> wrote:

On 03/10/2017 07:17 PM, Aaron Bains wrote:
But if I'm getting and building all the packages on the host and
installing them on LFS, why would LFS need wget, etc. Im assuming LFS
would only need the basic stuff such as glibc and Linux headers and
coreutils and bash and their dependencies. I wouldn't expect minimal
systems like tinycore or http://minimal.linux-bg.org systems using
busybox to require all those packages in chapter 6, unless they intended
to compile packages and download them and install all right on the system.



The difference of your proposed solution to the "proper" LFS way is that LFS 
will gradually override the tools stuff with stuff from chapter 6 and later 
stuff in Chapter 6 depends on earlier stuff in Chapter 6. The tools stuff is 
not enough for every package in chapter 6 and definitely not enough for 
additional blfs stuff. This will leave you with unresolved dependencies.

I'd suggest you go for "best of both worlds": First, you do a normal

make install

to /usr etc, as described in the book, and right after that, you do a

make DESTDIR=/path/to/your/livecd/root install

for any packages you want on your livecd. That's what I basically did on my 
first lfs install. Now, I use a package manager and then install the packages, 
but for a first try, it would be wise to follow the book until you fully 
understand all the reasons why lfs does it as described. Which you obviously 
don't.


Cheers
Tim



Aaron Bains, CPA, CA

On Mar 10, 2017 12:04 PM, "Bruce Dubbs" 
mailto:bruce.du...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:

Aaron Bains wrote:

I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I
have made
my tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build the
packages for the final system.

I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD,
since I
want my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the
LiveCD, I
would compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain)
and |make
install| to the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have
a very
minimal GUI to run a basic webcam package.

Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in
Chapter 6
of the LFS documentation?


No. After Chapter 5 packages will be dependent on /mnt/lfs/tools and
your system will not boot.  You will not have any networking or way
to get packages (e.g. wget, etc).

Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because

of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need
those? I am
under the impression that when I run |make| and |make install|
that it
puts all the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't
need these
packages that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't
intend to
compile packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me
know if I am
on the right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.


You can try it, but I'm highly doubtful for the above reasons.

Have you even built LFS through boot?  It doesn't sound like it.

  -- Bruce


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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Aaron Bains]

Tim, yes that's what I'm getting at. Basically I wouldn't be chrooted into
the LFS system. I build the tool chain on the host and make install destdir
all my desired packages to the mounted LFS system. This would save lots of
space resulting in a very small OS. Pretty sure this is how embedded Linux
systems are made with cross compiling toolchains.

On Mar 10, 2017 1:44 PM, "Tim Tassonis"  wrote:

>
> On 03/10/2017 07:17 PM, Aaron Bains wrote:
>
>> But if I'm getting and building all the packages on the host and
>> installing them on LFS, why would LFS need wget, etc. Im assuming LFS
>> would only need the basic stuff such as glibc and Linux headers and
>> coreutils and bash and their dependencies. I wouldn't expect minimal
>> systems like tinycore or http://minimal.linux-bg.org systems using
>> busybox to require all those packages in chapter 6, unless they intended
>> to compile packages and download them and install all right on the system.
>>
>
>
>
> The difference of your proposed solution to the "proper" LFS way is that
> LFS will gradually override the tools stuff with stuff from chapter 6 and
> later stuff in Chapter 6 depends on earlier stuff in Chapter 6. The tools
> stuff is not enough for every package in chapter 6 and definitely not
> enough for additional blfs stuff. This will leave you with unresolved
> dependencies.
>
> I'd suggest you go for "best of both worlds": First, you do a normal
>
> make install
>
> to /usr etc, as described in the book, and right after that, you do a
>
> make DESTDIR=/path/to/your/livecd/root install
>
> for any packages you want on your livecd. That's what I basically did on
> my first lfs install. Now, I use a package manager and then install the
> packages, but for a first try, it would be wise to follow the book until
> you fully understand all the reasons why lfs does it as described. Which
> you obviously don't.
>
>
> Cheers
> Tim
>
>
>
>> Aaron Bains, CPA, CA
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2017 12:04 PM, "Bruce Dubbs" > > wrote:
>>
>> Aaron Bains wrote:
>>
>> I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I
>> have made
>> my tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build the
>> packages for the final system.
>>
>> I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD,
>> since I
>> want my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the
>> LiveCD, I
>> would compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain)
>> and |make
>> install| to the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have
>> a very
>> minimal GUI to run a basic webcam package.
>>
>> Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in
>> Chapter 6
>> of the LFS documentation?
>>
>>
>> No. After Chapter 5 packages will be dependent on /mnt/lfs/tools and
>> your system will not boot.  You will not have any networking or way
>> to get packages (e.g. wget, etc).
>>
>> Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because
>>
>> of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need
>> those? I am
>> under the impression that when I run |make| and |make install|
>> that it
>> puts all the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't
>> need these
>> packages that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't
>> intend to
>> compile packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me
>> know if I am
>> on the right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.
>>
>>
>> You can try it, but I'm highly doubtful for the above reasons.
>>
>> Have you even built LFS through boot?  It doesn't sound like it.
>>
>>   -- Bruce
>>
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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Tim Tassonis]

On 03/10/2017 07:17 PM, Aaron Bains wrote:

But if I'm getting and building all the packages on the host and
installing them on LFS, why would LFS need wget, etc. Im assuming LFS
would only need the basic stuff such as glibc and Linux headers and
coreutils and bash and their dependencies. I wouldn't expect minimal
systems like tinycore or http://minimal.linux-bg.org systems using
busybox to require all those packages in chapter 6, unless they intended
to compile packages and download them and install all right on the system.




The difference of your proposed solution to the "proper" LFS way is that 
LFS will gradually override the tools stuff with stuff from chapter 6 
and later stuff in Chapter 6 depends on earlier stuff in Chapter 6. The 
tools stuff is not enough for every package in chapter 6 and definitely 
not enough for additional blfs stuff. This will leave you with 
unresolved dependencies.


I'd suggest you go for "best of both worlds": First, you do a normal

make install

to /usr etc, as described in the book, and right after that, you do a

make DESTDIR=/path/to/your/livecd/root install

for any packages you want on your livecd. That's what I basically did on 
my first lfs install. Now, I use a package manager and then install the 
packages, but for a first try, it would be wise to follow the book until 
you fully understand all the reasons why lfs does it as described. Which 
you obviously don't.



Cheers
Tim




Aaron Bains, CPA, CA

On Mar 10, 2017 12:04 PM, "Bruce Dubbs" mailto:bruce.du...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Aaron Bains wrote:

I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I
have made
my tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build the
packages for the final system.

I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD,
since I
want my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the
LiveCD, I
would compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain)
and |make
install| to the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have
a very
minimal GUI to run a basic webcam package.

Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in
Chapter 6
of the LFS documentation?


No. After Chapter 5 packages will be dependent on /mnt/lfs/tools and
your system will not boot.  You will not have any networking or way
to get packages (e.g. wget, etc).

Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because

of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need
those? I am
under the impression that when I run |make| and |make install|
that it
puts all the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't
need these
packages that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't
intend to
compile packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me
know if I am
on the right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.


You can try it, but I'm highly doubtful for the above reasons.

Have you even built LFS through boot?  It doesn't sound like it.

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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Aaron Bains]

But if I'm getting and building all the packages on the host and installing
them on LFS, why would LFS need wget, etc. Im assuming LFS would only need
the basic stuff such as glibc and Linux headers and coreutils and bash and
their dependencies. I wouldn't expect minimal systems like tinycore or
http://minimal.linux-bg.org systems using busybox to require all those
packages in chapter 6, unless they intended to compile packages and
download them and install all right on the system.

Aaron Bains, CPA, CA

On Mar 10, 2017 12:04 PM, "Bruce Dubbs"  wrote:

> Aaron Bains wrote:
>
>> I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I have made
>> my tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build the
>> packages for the final system.
>>
>> I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD, since I
>> want my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the LiveCD, I
>> would compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain) and |make
>> install| to the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have a very
>> minimal GUI to run a basic webcam package.
>>
>> Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in Chapter 6
>> of the LFS documentation?
>>
>
> No. After Chapter 5 packages will be dependent on /mnt/lfs/tools and your
> system will not boot.  You will not have any networking or way to get
> packages (e.g. wget, etc).
>
> Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because
>
>> of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need those? I am
>> under the impression that when I run |make| and |make install| that it
>> puts all the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't need these
>> packages that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't intend to
>> compile packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me know if I am
>> on the right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.
>>
>
> You can try it, but I'm highly doubtful for the above reasons.
>
> Have you even built LFS through boot?  It doesn't sound like it.
>
>   -- Bruce
>
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Re: [lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Bruce Dubbs]

Aaron Bains wrote:

I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I have made
my tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build the
packages for the final system.

I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD, since I
want my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the LiveCD, I
would compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain) and |make
install| to the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have a very
minimal GUI to run a basic webcam package.

Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in Chapter 6
of the LFS documentation?


No. After Chapter 5 packages will be dependent on /mnt/lfs/tools and your 
system will not boot.  You will not have any networking or way to get 
packages (e.g. wget, etc).


Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because

of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need those? I am
under the impression that when I run |make| and |make install| that it
puts all the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't need these
packages that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't intend to
compile packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me know if I am
on the right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.


You can try it, but I'm highly doubtful for the above reasons.

Have you even built LFS through boot?  It doesn't sound like it.

  -- Bruce


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[lfs-support] Building a LiveCD from LFS 8.0

[Aaron Bains]

I want to make a live CD based on the LFS 8.0 documentation. I have made my
tool chain (completed chapter 5) and I am starting to build the packages
for the final system.

I don't want to compile any packages inside the actual LiveCD, since I want
my LiveCD to be very lightweight. To add packages to the LiveCD, I would
compile them in my host environment (using my toolchain) and make install to
the root of my LiveCD filesystem. I do want to have a very minimal GUI to
run a basic webcam package.

Am I correct that I don't need to install any of the packages in Chapter 6
of the LFS documentation? Except for maybe Linux headers and GlibC because
of packages relying on their libraries, or do I not even need those? I am
under the impression that when I run make and make install that it puts all
the libraries I need in the directories so I wouldn't need these packages
that LFS is specifying in chapter 6, since I don't intend to compile
packages directly within the LiveCD OS. Please let me know if I am on the
right track here, or if what I am saying is wrong.
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