Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily bibisect
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:39 PM, dk...@torfree.net wrote: Just for convenience, my changes so far today are https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/index.** php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisect**diff=73158oldid=73085https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisectdiff=73158oldid=73085 . They go beyond the changes I mention in-line. Quoting Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com: On 07/28/2013 12:00 PM, libreoffice-qa-request@lists.**freedesktop.orglibreoffice-qa-requ...@lists.freedesktop.orgwrote: I have added some instructions to deal with tags latest and oldest in the daily bibisect repo https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/index.** php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisect**diff=73085oldid=73084https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisectdiff=73085oldid=73084 . Will you be good enough to look over the changes? Of course, if the repo came with these tags laready in place, that whole section of the page could go away. Thanks, Terry. I'll take a look - we've been talking quite a bit about cleaning this page and I see that you're adding and cleaning it up. Was wondering if you'd be willing (if not let me know and I'll take a stab at it) to do a couple things to the page. I will be glad to continue hacking at the page. 1. Can you add a note that says if the bibisect shows the bug the entire time (ie. it's prebibisect) to mark the version as 3.5beta0 in FDO - this is the best we can do currently - and add prebibisect to whiteboard. Done: https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/index.** php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisect**diff=73158oldid=73157https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisectdiff=73158oldid=73157 . 2. Rearrange the page just a bit - I think logically a) Intro b) Limitations c) Download stuff d) how to bibisect (currently in a different location) e) Bug that need bibisected f) troubleshooting Done: https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/index.** php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisect**diff=73146oldid=73144https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisectdiff=73146oldid=73144 I think only one change there but it makes more sense intrinsically to me. 3. Another minor thing that I see is in versions it says bibisect40bugs for bugs that need bibisecting - as far as I know every bug that needs bibisected is bibisectrequest - I haven't seen the 4.0 and 4.0+ (daily) differentiated - perhaps I missed something though :) BZ shows no bugs with “bibisect40” in either the Whiteboard or Keywords. I changed it: https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/index.** php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisect**diff=73155oldid=73151https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisectdiff=73155oldid=73151 I remember from June that the linked bugzilla queries use a baffling veriety of selection criteria. Do you have an idea about whether there is a reason for this variety? Or is it something that “just happened”? Thanks Terry for tackling this how to wiki - it has a lot going on there so the cleaner and simpler we make it the better. Hah! We haven't even started on the witheboard statuses and prescribed comments for reporting the results. The page already has a lot of instructions conditioned by the tester's choice of bibisect download. I only foresee that getting worse: there are three bibisect versions, and each can be unhelpful when the regression is off either end. (Yes, a regression newer than the 40+ version is plausible. I went weeks without updating my download after an attempted update hung for days showing an ETA of a hundred odd days.) Among the unseccssful cases, only the determination that a regression is older than the OVA or 40 repositories marks the end of the search. How much should we try to track in the whiteboard status? If you're busy or just don't want to do it just let me know - I didn't want to be editing over you :) I am happy to continue. Knowing that someone is checking my work frees me to make bigger changes. Thanks, Terry, good job on updating the page Terry .. I just got finishing reading over the content. -- Mas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base: Properties in Fields of a Form chaotically sorted
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Mas tier3supp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de wrote: Hi Mas, I viewed your attachment again . The screen shot was presented in English and if you notice under the general tab. The list goes from A-Z -- alignment being the first and background color being next. This is called alphabetical order from A-Z I checked under releases 4.1.03 and 4.1.04 Window and Linux. They are setup the same way. see attached from my version , We can possibly file this under a feature request instead of a bug Your attachment doesn't show the whole field-properties of a form in base I presented. I'm not interested into a long discussion and writing down all the properties here. But I have written the part you have attached: 1 Alignment 2 Background color 3 Border 4 Border color 5 Default text 6 Password character 7 Visible 8 Enabled 9 Font 10 Height 11 Help Text 12 Hide selection 13 Label Field 14 Text lines end with 15 Max. text length That is the order of your screenshot. I put it into Calc and let it order in alphabethical form: 1 Alignment 2 Background color 3 Border 4 Border color 5 Default text 8 Enabled 9 Font 10 Height 11 Help Text 12 Hide selection 13 Label Field 15 Max. text length 6 Password character 14 Text lines end with 7 Visible That is the alphabethical order of Calc. The first five fields are ordered alphabethical. So please don't close a bug with the argument the order is alphabetical, if it isn't. Say it is chaotically and I love chaotically LO - and if many people of this list will aggree it might be OK (for alle the people, who loves chaos, not for people, who will work with software). Then I wouldn't open the bug again and will leave this projekt. Alphabetical order isn't an argument. The changing of the order by groups (Anchor together with Height and Width and Positionx and PositionY for example) to no order is a regression in usability. I think nobody has changed this behavior from LO 4.0 to LO 4.1 with this intention. There has been changed something at another point and nobody noticed, that this would change the usability of the editing of form-fields. Robert I will research this further and reply to the bug ticket. Thanks -- -- Mas The issue has been patch under the bug .. please review the bug report and report back if you continue to have a problem Bug notes: Stephan Bergmann committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to libreoffice-4-1: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=b23a866a93e42467ef42c2d46735e1ffcf6f1c78h=libreoffice-4-1 fdo#67430 Keep original order of entry positions, not alphabetically sorted It will be available in LibreOffice 4.1.1. The patch should be included in the daily builds available athttp://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- Mas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base: Properties in Fields of a Form chaotically sorted
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de wrote: Hi Mas, I viewed your attachment again . The screen shot was presented in English and if you notice under the general tab. The list goes from A-Z -- alignment being the first and background color being next. This is called alphabetical order from A-Z I checked under releases 4.1.03 and 4.1.04 Window and Linux. They are setup the same way. see attached from my version , We can possibly file this under a feature request instead of a bug Your attachment doesn't show the whole field-properties of a form in base I presented. I'm not interested into a long discussion and writing down all the properties here. But I have written the part you have attached: 1 Alignment 2 Background color 3 Border 4 Border color 5 Default text 6 Password character 7 Visible 8 Enabled 9 Font 10 Height 11 Help Text 12 Hide selection 13 Label Field 14 Text lines end with 15 Max. text length That is the order of your screenshot. I put it into Calc and let it order in alphabethical form: 1 Alignment 2 Background color 3 Border 4 Border color 5 Default text 8 Enabled 9 Font 10 Height 11 Help Text 12 Hide selection 13 Label Field 15 Max. text length 6 Password character 14 Text lines end with 7 Visible That is the alphabethical order of Calc. The first five fields are ordered alphabethical. So please don't close a bug with the argument the order is alphabetical, if it isn't. Say it is chaotically and I love chaotically LO - and if many people of this list will aggree it might be OK (for alle the people, who loves chaos, not for people, who will work with software). Then I wouldn't open the bug again and will leave this projekt. Alphabetical order isn't an argument. The changing of the order by groups (Anchor together with Height and Width and Positionx and PositionY for example) to no order is a regression in usability. I think nobody has changed this behavior from LO 4.0 to LO 4.1 with this intention. There has been changed something at another point and nobody noticed, that this would change the usability of the editing of form-fields. Robert I will research this further and reply to the bug ticket. Thanks -- -- Mas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time
On Jul 26, 2013 2:01 PM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Now the question is - how do we reach out to the NA community and say we need to balance out our teams! - a couple people from the triage contest were from the US - wonder if they'd be interested. We could go with the tried and true the British are coming!... :-) I think pinging the users list would be a good start. In terms of general NA involvement, it's partially just a question of good recruitment. Finding users that have the time and ability to make some good contributions. A part of that, as you (Joel) have pointed out, is convincing people that they don't need a ton of experience to hop in and get started! --R Thanks everyone for opening up a dialogue about changing the time some. I am open for anytime after 10am. My personal work schedule Friday by 9 is kind of rough at the moment. So if the day has to be Friday. Can we move the time later in the day so we can have Joel involved with the call. He has been a huge voice for the QA team. I would not want to take him away from this project. I am willing to work along his schedule. Between noon and 5pm eat will work perfectly for me.. Mas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [LibreOffice-QA] Public Conference Call May 17, 2013 - 1300 UTC
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just a reminder that this Friday is our bi-weekly public call, anyone is welcome to join: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/May_17 If you don't want to join often times there is some discussion happening on IRC at the same time at #libreoffice-qa on Freenode. Best Regards, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com - I will be joining the call , -- -- Mas Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA Call 2012-11-16 1400UTC
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Mas píše v Pá 16. 11. 2012 v 10:06 -0500: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Joel Madero píše v Pá 16. 11. 2012 v 06:12 -0800: Wrong phone number, please call in at phone number from this page: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Dial-in numbers inside Germany are: +49 40 18881000 (Hamburg, landline) +49 40 95069970 (Hamburg, landline) +49 89 60893 (Munich, landline) +49 1570 3336000 (vistream mobile network) Free Skype contact[*]: talkyoo_skype Room: Room number: 53 71 38 Did the call start early? should have been 1400 UTC It started at about 14:06 UTC. It means 15:06CET, see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ It seems that you tried it one hour later :-( I am sorry for this. Anywya, we are looking forward to hear you next time. Best Regards, Petr Thanks, I will catch the next one. -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA Call 2012-11-16 1400UTC
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Mas píše v Pá 16. 11. 2012 v 10:06 -0500: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Joel Madero píše v Pá 16. 11. 2012 v 06:12 -0800: Wrong phone number, please call in at phone number from this page: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Dial-in numbers inside Germany are: +49 40 18881000 (Hamburg, landline) +49 40 95069970 (Hamburg, landline) +49 89 60893 (Munich, landline) +49 1570 3336000 (vistream mobile network) Free Skype contact[*]: talkyoo_skype Room: Room number: 53 71 38 Did the call start early? should have been 1400 UTC It started at about 14:06 UTC. It means 15:06CET, see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ It seems that you tried it one hour later :-( I am sorry for this. Anywya, we are looking forward to hear you next time. Best Regards, Petr Thanks, I will catch the next one. -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA Call 2012-11-16 1400UTC
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Joel Madero píše v Pá 16. 11. 2012 v 06:12 -0800: Wrong phone number, please call in at phone number from this page: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Here are more details from the older announcements. Dial-in numbers for countries outside Germany can be found at: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Dial-in numbers inside Germany are: +49 40 18881000 (Hamburg, landline) +49 40 95069970 (Hamburg, landline) +49 89 60893 (Munich, landline) +49 1570 3336000 (vistream mobile network) Free Skype contact[*]: talkyoo_skype Room: Room number: 53 71 38 No participant PIN is required All calls will be recorded All participants can speak Comments and additions most welcome. [*] Talkyoo has to confirm your contact before you could call in. This might take several hours or even days. Please, start preparation on time. Best Regards, Petr Did the call start early? should have been 1400 UTC -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Blog on QA
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Terrence Enger ten...@iseries-guru.comwrote: On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 13:34 +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi all, For information, I published a blog about QA http://sophiegautier.com/blog/index.php/2012/11/12/184-are-you-a-contributor-part-6-qa If you see anything missing, pleas add a comment. Thanks! Sophie, I notice that both your page and the wiki page QA/HowToBibisect [1] say that bibisect is strictly for Linux. Hoever, in August Norbert Thiebaud announced [2] bibisect for windows. Did his effort come to naught? Cheers, Terry. references ... [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect [2] http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-bibisect-fro-windows-td4002219.html Nice Job, maybe you should make the font larger -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA Call 2012-11-16 1400UTC
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Joel Madero píše v Pá 16. 11. 2012 v 06:12 -0800: Wrong phone number, please call in at phone number from this page: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Here are more details from the older announcements. Dial-in numbers for countries outside Germany can be found at: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Dial-in numbers inside Germany are: +49 40 18881000 (Hamburg, landline) +49 40 95069970 (Hamburg, landline) +49 89 60893 (Munich, landline) +49 1570 3336000 (vistream mobile network) Free Skype contact[*]: talkyoo_skype Room: Room number: 53 71 38 No participant PIN is required All calls will be recorded All participants can speak Comments and additions most welcome. [*] Talkyoo has to confirm your contact before you could call in. This might take several hours or even days. Please, start preparation on time. Best Regards, Petr Did the call start early? should have been 1400 UTC -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA Call 2012-11-16 1400UTC
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:00:05PM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: Open invite to anyone wanting to join QA call. Approximately 1 hour long If I'm missing any items please reply, feel free to edit wiki as well. One addition to the agenda: AFIAK we have already meetbot/supybot running on IRC. QA might decide to use it to generate agendas and minutes: http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html Lets dicuss in the call. Best, Bjoern Thanks for the info Joel, -- -- Mas Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA Call 2012-11-16 1400UTC
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:00:05PM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: Open invite to anyone wanting to join QA call. Approximately 1 hour long If I'm missing any items please reply, feel free to edit wiki as well. One addition to the agenda: AFIAK we have already meetbot/supybot running on IRC. QA might decide to use it to generate agendas and minutes: http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html Lets dicuss in the call. Best, Bjoern Thanks for the info Joel, -- -- Mas Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Server Installation GUI - Call for testing (and time for feature requests)
On Nov 3, 2012 12:32 PM, Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! My program soon is going to be final: http://flosmind.wordpress.com/libreoffice-server-install-gui/ and http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/libreoffice-server-installation-gui(Here 1.9.8 is shown as the latest version, but it will download the newest anyway...) PLEASE test it and give some feedback Thanks ;) PS: it would be nice to have this discussion on the QA ML -- Florian Reisinger LibreOffice herunterladen! ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ Nice work. I will test this out Mas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Wish you a nice QA Weekend!
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Roman Eisele wrote: But now I wish you all a nice weekend in Essen, full of astonishing insights, nice talks, good feeling, and fun! Greetings to all! Hi Roman, all, thank you - a pity you couldn't be there, maybe next time? And here's just a little recap of the topics discussed: * parallel install / server install howto * bibisect * hardhacks * QA community building * QA processes howtos * time-based releases * QA roundtable (in parallel folks where teaming up to get the LibOCon site and programme ready - which also greatly benefitted from low-latency communication aka face2face meeting ;)) I'm sure Florian Reisinger can fill in more blanks here; my kudos to him for running the show there! Cheers, -- Thorsten ___ Will the notes be shared with other QA members? -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Closing FIXED bugs
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Olivier Hallot schrieb: I am suggesting to CLOSE less than 15 bugs. Hi Olivier, I suggest not to do that. The problem are not the few moments you invest in closing. The problem is that this Status info will be worrying because it's not in accordance with current habits; it might make queries less reliable. Currently it's more or less common sense to proceed as following: Status of a bug will be changed to RESOLVED FIXED (by the developer) if the fix has been introduced into the most early Version where possible and planned. With RESOLVED FIXED the work on that bug normally is terminated. RESOLVED FIXED may be changed to VERIFIED FIXED if someone did intensive tests what proved that the bug is really fixed AND that no other problems seem to be caused by the fix. Only a quick test fix works is not sufficient. Sometimes Bugs become resolution CLOSED as a kind of exclamation mark with the implicit statement Work on this bug is definitively terminated, discussion finished, if there were insecurities, objections, ... . For example this might be appropriate if someone found out that although there is a fix the problem still exists under particular circumstances. The question was whether the fix is incomplete (or does not work), or whether that is a new different bug only showing similar symptoms. CLOSED indicates that the discussion has been terminated with the result that work on this bug really has been terminated with the fix. I will write some more elaborated and precise notes at https://wiki.** documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ and recommend to discuss that on a ESC call (and may be on a QA call) if there are concerns or objections. Everybody should follow the current habits or a decision of ESC to keep queries reliable. I will keep you up to date here in this thread. Best regards Rainer Thanks Rainer, The above really makes more sense. -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Should we use the QA Contact field?
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Roman Eisele qali...@eikota.de wrote: Hi all, recently I noticed that some of us start actually using the “QA Contact” field, which was neglected for a long time. So I think I must have missed something. Is there now a consensus, or a tendency towards a consensus, that we actually should use the “QA Contact” field? Should I put myself (actually, my mail address ;-) into that field if I “take” a bug for QA, i.e. when I feel as the (most) responsible bugwrangler for a particular bug? I will be happy to do so, I just want to know if this is recommended now ... Thank you for any hints, and best regards -- Roman I will assign my name to the QA if I am actively working the ticket. or if I am researching the issue more. This will let others know the ticket is being look into by the QA hope this helps -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Volunteer required for Libreoffice-qa mailing list administration
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Rainer Bielefeld schrieb: a volunteer is required Hi all, together with Thorsten I decided that volunteer Florian, who already has some more experience in the project, should do the job. @Hashem Masoud Thank you for your offer and your contribution to the LibreOffice project. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld __**_ Thanks , this should be added to the QA wiki page . So we will know who does what -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla password reset
anyone else having a problem with bugzilla resetting their password every 24 hours ? -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Esc Call Notes
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: These are just a few of the things that pertained to QA 1. Calc (3.6) crashing 1. bugs discussed, we need to go through the Unconfirmed and verify. The NEW ones are being looked at by the developers 2. HardHacks 1. Previous email sent out, we need to finalize the process 2. Developers have gone through the hard hacks, a continuous list is preferred (max of 5-7 bugs at a time, refilling these as they are taken care of is best 3. See previous email for suggestions 3. Triaging 1. Begged for more help for back log ;), some interested but suggestion of bug hunting session. Time difference could be an issue, can someone else in Europe try to arrange this? If it's over the weekend I may be able to join, otherwise very hard 2. There are 30ish students from Hungary (I believe?) doing development, asked for more EasyHacks to work on, I suggested that maybe they could help triage and maybe find their own EasyHacks (not sure what the result of this was) 4. EasyHacks 1. Like above, need more EasyHacks marked, people are available to deal with them but there aren't enough out there 2. My comment: I'm seeing things marked as EasyHack without the entire list of things that we usually should put for easy hack (particularly bt if possible, and some direction as to where to look in the code) 5. MAB 1. There really shouldn't be any put to 3.7 from what I understood 6. Resolved Status 1. Only mark as Resolved if it's resolved in latest stable, not if it only works in latest master (a comment can be put in if it's working on latest master) 2. WORKSFORME unless you know for sure the bug was assigned and dealt with by a developer, in which case ask them to mark as RESOLVED - FIXED or mark it yourself (again only if you're sure that it wasn't just coincidentally fixed, or just works for you and you're not sure if the particular bug was dealt with) 7. Issues regarding rudeness on FDO 1. Michael dealt with the one case, banning a user is probably more problematic than it's worth. 2. Creating a wiki page (Joel) to kind of address this, something along the lines of What is not useful in reporting a bug I think that was about it, if I missed something, my apologies. Best Regards, Joel I have a question about the old Bug ticket dating back to 2011. How long should we keep a ticket open if we are requesting additional information on the ticket. is it safe to resolved them to resolvedinvalid ? -- -- Masekela Walls Web Security Analyst | Senior Server Administrator Powserve.com / Gemini ISP Networks ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Please Triage These (Bugs from 2011)
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: There are 12 bugs from 2011 that haven't been triaged. I think they have been kind of ignored because they require certain things (such as Mac or UX input or advanced computer understanding :) ). Could someone(s) please get these done, then at least we're up to 2012 :) If you see one or more that you think you can deal with, please do it and send a reply so we know it's done. Thanks everyone ID▲https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=bug_id%20DESCquery_based_on= Comphttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=component%2Cbug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= Sev▲https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=bug_severity%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= Pri▲https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=priority%20DESC%2Cbug_severity%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= OShttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=op_sys%2Cbug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= Assigneehttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=assigned_to%2Cbug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= Statushttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=bug_status%2Cbug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= Resolutionhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=resolution%2Cbug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= Summaryhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=short_desc%2Cbug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= Changedhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfieldto=2011-12-31list_id=124162product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=changeddate%2Cbug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cbug_idquery_based_on= 42673 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42673Spreadsh majlow Wind libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---With disconnected network printers, Calc hangs opening some files waiting on the Windows print spoolerhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42673 2011-11-07 41987 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41987 Libreoff normedium Mac libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---LibreOffice hangs when Save As... tries to re-mount previously used, but now inaccessible network volumeshttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41987 2011-10-19 42118 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42118BASIC normedium Linu libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---Macro editor lacks the standard window controls -- Linux Unity window manager specifichttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42118 2011-11-17 43185 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43185 Libreoff normedium Wind libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---Font Replacement According Replacement Table (Option) does not Work as Expectedhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43185 2011-11-23 43198 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43198 Libreoff normedium Linu libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---LibreOffice is opened when WebKitGtk is used with installed LibreOffice Mozilla pluginhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43198 2011-11-23 43255 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43255 Drawing normedium Wind libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---FILEOPEN: MinGW impossible for particular .SVGshttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43255 2011-11-26 43449 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43449 Document normedium alllibreoffice-b...@lists.free... UNCO ---WIKIHELP image size should be in pixel, or else trash resizinghttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43449 2011-12-01 43450 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43450 Document normedium alllibreoffice-b...@lists.free... UNCO ---WIKIHELP table-styled list consistencyhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434502011-12-01 43471 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43471Libreoff min medium Linu libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---unable to import gtk library from libreoffice's embedded python on RHEL6.1https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43471 2011-12-02 42075 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42075UI enh mediumWind libreoffice-b...@lists.free...unco ---Add a
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers
Qa should run backtraces for the dev team. The dev team can focus on implementing the fixes. We should not ask end users to perform the traces. If they are comfortable with doing it . Then this is great. As I was told the wiki is for contributors and not end users. Mas On Sep 7, 2012 4:05 PM, John Smith lbalba...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: This isn't for end-users, it's for QA team..and it's our job to do as much as possible to help the developers. I know when I'm doing the development side I appreciate whatever previous info users and QA can provide. It's maximizing the efficiency of our abilitieslimited # of developers means we should be using their time wisely, not running backtraces that someone with 1/10th of their computer programming skills could manage just fine. Best Regards, Joel Well, like I said: I guess it all depends on who your target audience is. Just keep in mind who that is, and what their expected skill set is, and adjust your procedures to that. IMHO. - John Smith. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
