Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (Mac)?

2016-08-18 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Steven Yanoff <yan...@tularosa.net> wrote:
> Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (OS X El Capitan on Mac)?

Hi Steven,

I'd suggest that you download the latest version of LibreOffice and try it out
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

> If it does, are there problems?  I am running the latest - El Capitan 10.11.6.

Have you experienced any issues running LibreOffice on OSX? If there
is an issue present, please check to see if it's been reported in the
bug tracker, and file a new bug if needed:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

In fact, here's an older bug report about El Capitan that needs review
and re-testing:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93368

If you're interested in QA on OS X, that might be a good place to start!

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Changing "Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths" crashes 5.2.0.3 on Debian

2016-07-21 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Thomas Hackert  wrote:
> Hi @ll,
> I opened bug #101054
> (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101054) a
> couple of minutes ago. Would someone be so kind to have a look at
> it, please? Steps to reproduce are mentioned in the bug  report, and
> I have also attached a compressed backtrace and strace ... ;)
> TIA
> Thomas (who hopes, that it is not an obscure bug, where he is the
> only one who can reproduce it ... :( ).

Tried and failed to repro on Ubuntu 14.04. Any special tricks to
exercise the problem? ;-)

(Also added versions for 5.2.0.2 and 5.2.0.3 to Bugzilla. Let me know
if any other versions are missing)

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting tomorrow

2016-02-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Quick reminder that our next QA Meeting is tomorrow:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2016/February_10

After some interesting wrestling with our Automatic Meeting Bot
(Moral: Never trust a robot![1]), I shoved the minutes from our last
meeting directly up on the wiki here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2016/January_27

Want to help pick a new time for the QA Meeting?
I'll be sending out a new Doodle[2] shortly asking for your input
about when would be best for us to have our biweekly QA Meetings. Your
input will be very helpful!

Thanks,
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[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb2Pzl1U0sY
[2] There were a couple of issues with the last FOSS
meeting-scheduling software I tested, so I'm falling back to Doodle
for the time being. Sorry, RMS.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder! QA Meeting on Wednesday!

2016-01-25 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

This Wednesday at way-too-early o'clock in the morning* we'll be
having our next QA Meeting.

For the agenda and pending ACTION items, please point your web browser
of choice in the direction of:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2016/January_27

If you don't recall the meeting start time in your time zone, click here:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=13=00=0=27=01=2016

For a picture of a fancy-dress walrus, we've got you covered:
http://img13.deviantart.net/541f/i/2012/110/4/8/fancy_walrus_by_jupiterine-d4wyosg.jpg

If there are any bugs or problems that need our attention or
discussion, especially anything big that should be raised to the ESC,
please bring a list to the meeting or drop me an email.

Cheers,
--R


* Here in the US, at least.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Tip: Ever want to make private notes on a bug report?

2016-01-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Eike Rathke <er...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thursday, 2016-01-07 17:00:20 -0600, Robinson Tryon wrote:
>
>> If any of you have ever wanted to make a private note on a bug report,
>> feel free to use the 'Tags' field. The content in there is only
>> viewable to you, and editing that field won't send email to any other
>> users (so don't be shy about tagging up bugs with your notes!)
>
> Caveat though, that field is really meant as a tags field and not free
> from text. Everything you enter there ends up in a tags list and
> is suggested for further entries, tags are comma separated.

Ah yes, it does have auto-suggestions, although (in my personal
application of the field) I often just ignore them :P

> I'd not use
> that for private comments. The tags system helps though to classify bugs
> according to a personal schema.
>
> Btw, can the tags list be edited somehow?

Not that I'm aware of.

> Unfortunately it is also not
> possible to set tags in a mass change, in all bugs of a search result.

Correct. I feel like that one might be a bit easier to implement than
the former feature. Is bulk-update something that you'd find very
useful, or just a nice-to-have?

Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Tip: Ever want to make private notes on a bug report?

2016-01-07 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Here's a handy tip to help you get the most out of using our Bugzilla instance:

If any of you have ever wanted to make a private note on a bug report,
feel free to use the 'Tags' field. The content in there is only
viewable to you, and editing that field won't send email to any other
users (so don't be shy about tagging up bugs with your notes!)

You can query on the field just like searching the Whiteboard (look
under 'Custom Search') , so I've personally used the Tags field to
keep track of things like repro needs, people whom I've poked about
fixing a particular bug, or bugs that need some cleanup help.

It's really nice to be able to keep my notes associated directly with
bug reports instead of keeping them in a separate document or external
list. Because you're the only one who will see it, you can keep the
notes as messy or as tidy as you like!


Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Standardizing format of Keywords

2016-01-07 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

As mentioned during the ESC call, to keep things standardized in
Bugzilla, we've made a small change to two Keywords:

have-backtrace -> haveBacktrace
want-backtrace -> wantBacktrace

If you have any bookmarks to queries that refer to these Keywords (or
etc), please make sure to update them. If you have any questions,
please let me know!

Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA 'Holiday' Meeting on Wednesday

2015-12-22 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

We've got just *one more* QA Meeting this year, so please join us for
a light and mostly-for-fun Holiday Meeting on Wednesday.

If you feel like you want to take a break from your festivities, or
just squeeze in a bit more LibreOffice QA work before the clock
rings-in Christmas, navigate your IRC client to #libreoffice-qa.
Meeting time and agenda may be found here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/December_23

Minutes from last week are available here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/December_16


BUGS! We've got a million of them! Okay...not quite that many, but I
just counted, and we're all the way up to 601 UNCONFIRMED bugs. Let's
see what we can do to bring that number down before the end of the
year!


Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting this Wednesday!

2015-12-15 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Please join us on Wednesday in #libreoffice-qa for our QA Meeting:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/December_16

Minutes from our last meeting are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/December_09

I hope to see all of you there!

Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] [Tester Request] Android Impress Remote + Windows machine?

2015-12-14 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,
We've made some important changes to the Android Impress Remote (AIR)
recently, and want to make sure that the updated remote is working
smoothly when connecting to a Windows machine.

Do you have an Android phone/tablet and are running Windows? Ping me back!

Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Update on Whiteboard -> Keywords migration

2015-12-14 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,
The migration of several tags from the Whiteboard -> Keywords is now
largely complete for Open bugs. Here's some useful info for y'all:


S!
--
Last week I made some tweaks to Bugzilla to make it easier to do bulk
edits to bugs without spamming everyone's inboxes. Because bugs were
updated without an email notification, I did include a short comment
with each silent change.


What's Changed?

There were several categories of Whiteboard tags that were migrated to
Keywords. Here's the live list of Keywords:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/describekeywords.cgi

And here's the current wiki page for Whiteboard tags
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard

The Keywords field will give you some auto-completion options once you
start typing, so as long as you remember the first few characters,
you're set.

Alongside the basic migration, I did a bit of consolidation, typo
correction, and added documentation. There were a number of EasyHacks
tagged with "SkippCpp" (instead of "SkillCpp") and some other amusing
Whiteboard entries. Remember: Although it may be tempting, please do
not write full sentences in the Whiteboard! :-)

Big kudos go to beluga and others who helped to triage and close a
number of old bugs that were uncovered during the migration.


How Do I Update My Queries?
---
The safest way to update any saved query urls is to open them in a
browser and tweak them live in Bugzilla. For those who like to live
dangerously, it's often possible to just search-and-replace
"status_whiteboard" -> "keywords" _IF_ all tags you're referencing
have been converted to Keywords. Example:

OLD:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED=LibreOffice_format=advanced_whiteboard=EasyHack%20DifficultyInteresting%20SkillCpp_whiteboard_type=allwords=atom

NEW:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED=LibreOffice_format=advanced=EasyHack%20DifficultyInteresting%20SkillCpp_type=allwords=atom


Documentation
-
I've updated the pages on the TDF wiki to reflect the migrated
Whiteboard tags and provide some additional information on using
Keywords. If you know of external docs or references, or your eagle
eyes spot something in the wiki that I have missed, please let me
know.


Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] REMINDER: QA Meeting this Wednesday

2015-12-07 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,
We'll have our regular meeting at the regular time this Wednesday (as
regularly scheduled) in #libreoffice-qa on Freenode.

If you need a quick refresher about last week's topics, the minutes
from last week are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/December_02

The meeting page for this week, incl. agenda, start time, and pending
ACTION items, is here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/December_09

I hope to see many of you join us in the channel. It's always great to
get input and feedback from so many of you.

Thanks,
--R

P.S. Don't forget to bring the bug #s of issues that you think we
should escalate to the ESC. It's really important for us to be able to
point the devs in the direction of the issues that need prompt and/or
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

2015-12-05 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:46 AM, Pedro <pedl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robinson Tryon wrote
>>> May I suggest that you migrate all "blockers" to "critical" and remove
>>> the
>>> "blocker" option from the list?
> ...
> I think that removing it from the drop-down list is helpful. There is no
> point in having available options that are deprecated. In this case the
> English word "blocker" has a specific meaning and is used in other open
> source projects to effectively block a release. Since that doesn't apply in
> LibreOffice it should be removed.

Okay, blocker is removed from visibility. I don't expect the change
will have any negative side effects, but please indicate if you see
any weirdness with creating new or updating old bug reports.

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

2015-12-04 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Joel Madero <jmadero@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/04/2015 11:27 AM, m.a.riosv wrote:
>>
>> I have no rights to do it.
>>
>> For this I mail in the list, so it can be comment and if it was right set up
>> as blocker.

As mentioned previously, we're no longer using Severity: 'blocker' to
mark bugs. Please set those bugs to 'critical' severity.

>> Sounds good the "Ultra-critical", but I don't know if there are already
>> enough labels.
>

I've just been discussing this issue with beluga on IRC. It looks like
the range has been narrowed down to 11/24 - 11/28, but could use
further investigation. If you have a spare moment, please hop onto
#libreoffice-qa and join us.

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

2015-12-04 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Pedro <pedl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robinson Tryon wrote
>> As mentioned previously, we're no longer using Severity: 'blocker' to
>> mark bugs. Please set those bugs to 'critical' severity.
>
> May I suggest that you migrate all "blockers" to "critical" and remove the
> "blocker" option from the list?

We've migrated all open blockers to critical (migrating the
resolved/closed bugs was deemed more disruptive than helpful).
Renaming 'blocker' was proposed and then postponed, as the 'blocker'
label is threaded extensively through the Bugzilla codebase, and
patches to remove it would complicate upgrades. It's possible that we
could remove the option *solely* in the drop-down display when
editing, if that would be considered helpful for new bug reporters.

See docs on Severity field here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Severity#Severity_Levels

> It is useless, causes confusion/illusion and is a waste of time both to
> reporters and triagers.

Ideally, all triagers should be in the 'contributors' Bugzilla group
and should hopefully be aware of current best practices regarding
Severity and Priority. I just made additional updates to the
Prioritization flowchart mentioned in our Bug Triage docs to clarity
the deprecation of 'blocker', reflect the relative position of the
Importance fields (Priority, Severity) in the Bugzilla bug-editing
interface, and change the term 'Wishlist' to 'Enhancement' (to reflect
the actual terms used):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Step_7._Prioritize_Bug

Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Docs available for Status RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA

2015-12-03 Thread Robinson Tryon
As requested in the ESC and then discussed on these lists at length,
the new RESOLVED status of "INSUFFICIENTDATA" is available in
Bugzilla. Docs offering guidance for proper use this status may be
found here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Status/RESOLVED#INSUFFICIENTDATA

Questions? Suggestions? We may have a few wrinkles to iron out, so
please ask away...

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BugHuntSessie page misses 32 bits Linux..

2015-12-03 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Cor Nouws <oo...@nouenoff.nl> wrote:
> Why?

My guess is that we just copied the previous page to use as a
template. (As to why they weren't on a previous BHS page, all I can
imagine is that someone was focusing on the 64bit builds..)

> I've added them.

Thanks!  Don't forget to sign up under the #Participants section if
you'll be able to join in this weekend.

Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bug Hunting Session: Please sign up!

2015-12-02 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Excited about this weekend's Bug Hunting Session? I'll be around all
day on Friday, and we've got a bunch of other mentors ready to help
you and your friends join in and test the latest 5.1 beta 1 builds!

To help us get a better handle on how many people participate in the
event as well as what people are interested in testing, please sign up
on the BHS wiki page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.1.0_Beta#Participants

Have you invited anyone to join us this weekend? Please encourage them
to register for the wiki and sign up as well. That will make it easier
for us to let them know about the next Bug Hunting Session!  (If they
don't want to bother creating a wiki account, you can add them to the
#Participants section yourself. Please ask them what they're
interested in testing, what OS(es) they'll be using, and if they've
done any QA work previously)

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA meeting tomorrow?

2015-12-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Sophie <gautier.sop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a QA meeting planed tomorrow and at what time will it be?

Hi Sophie,
Yes, there'll be a QA Meeting tomorrow. Agenda/Pending Action Items here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/December_02

Handy-dandy meeting time link is here:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=13=00=0=02=12=2015

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2015-11-25 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Jan Holesovsky <ke...@collabora.com> wrote:
>> * Further renaming in sw (Kendy/Miklos)
>> + Kendy would again update the script so that Cloph can run it before 
>> the branch-off
>> + script lives in: bin/rename-sw-abbreviations.sh
>
> I've pushed several renames so that running the script causes no
> warnings and no errors, and pushed the updated script:
>
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3190f5a71dd3e63260edebc345aead4746a269a3
>
> Additional testing appreciated of course :-)

Hi Kendy,
It looks like the rename script got greedy and erroneously modified an
ODT (sw/qa/complex/writer/testdocuments/TESTXMLID.odt):
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=49c2b9808df8a6b197dec666dfc0cda6321a4306

Could you add file extension white/black -listing to the script to
prevent it from modifying non-code files in the future?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-24 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,
Just a quick reminder that we have our next QA Meeting on Wednesday.

Come say hi in #libreoffice-qa and bring your questions with you!

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[Libreoffice-qa] REMINDER: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-17 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,
How's your week going? Aside from a few crying babies next to me right
now, my week has been a bit rainy but pleasant.

Luckily, you can't hear babies cry on IRC, so you should definitely
join in tomorrow (Wednesday) for our QA Meeting in #libreoffice-qa on
Freenode.

Information about the meeting (including meeting time, current Action
items, etc..) is here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/November_18

Notes from last week's meeting are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/November_11

And here's a picture of a Walrus being very Walrus-y:
http://miriadna.com/preview/walrus

I'll see you tomorrow!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Performance issues with Libreoffice 5.02.2

2015-11-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 5:09 AM, Erics Computerlädchen
<i...@erics-computerlaedchen.de> wrote:
> Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> we got several performance issues (open templates or little xls files during
> opening files) with the new release.

Does an older version of LibreOffice open the files faster?

> We install libreoffice as default to our customers computers. They report
> performance issues. Open Office is faster.
> We do not want to install open Office as default.;-)

Performance issues are definitely something we like to track. Certain
code tweaks or feature implementations can create unintended side
effects, and the quicker that QA can digest, verify, and get that
information to the devs, the easier it is to address the root causes!

You mention "Performance issues with Libreoffice 5.02.2", by which I
believe you mean LibreOffice 5.0.2.2. We just released a 5.0.3.2
version, and for testing purposes, we have an alpha1 of our upcoming
5.1 release available here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

It would be very helpful if you could file a bug report, add the tag
'perf' to the Whiteboard field, and provide the following:
* A set of simple steps to reproduce this behavior
* Does this happen only with 5.0.2.2? How about the 5.1 alpha1?
* Is it any faster with an older version, such as our current "Still"
release, 4.4.6?
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-still/

Thanks for your help in making LibreOffice better!

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting this Wednesday

2015-11-03 Thread Robinson Tryon
We'll have a recap of our BugHunting Session, talk about Bugzilla
v5.0, and discuss all of the ACTION items that are pending.

Current Agenda:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/November_04

Meeting time in your local time zone:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=13=00=0=04=11=2015

Have some new ideas? Bring 'em to the meeting!

I'll see all of you on Wednesday!

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-10-28

2015-10-30 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hello all,

Thank you for another great QA Meeting! Minutes are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/October_28

Our next meeting will be on November 4th:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/November_04

Our BugHunting Session for 5.1 is in full swing -- join in the fun on
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[Libreoffice-qa] Halloween BugHunting Session for 5.1 -- Advertise and Recruit!

2015-10-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

As you all undoubtedly know by now, our 3-day BugHunting Session for
the alpha1 build of the 5.1 Release Series will be this Friday,
Saturday, and Sunday.

Each BugHunting Session is a great time for us to concentrate on
finding bugs in the alpha builds, and really polishing up the
development that's been taking place on LibreOffice's master branch.
It's also a great time for recruitment.

Given that the BugHunting Session happens to overlap with Halloween
this year, it's a great time for us to use some of that fun, spooky,
energy and invite people to join us. Bugzilla will have a banner, I'll
be writing a blog post shortly, and I invite all of you awesome folks
to help us spread the word about how much these testing times help out
the project.

Here's the link to the wiki:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.1.0.0

Here's the post from the TDF blog:
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/10/19/first-bug-hunting-session-for-libreoffice-5-1/

Think about what other places we should advertise!

We've already got a post on /r/libreoffice:
https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/3pnmkc/first_bug_hunting_session_for_libreoffice_51/


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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-10-21

2015-10-24 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks for the great QA Meeting on Wednesday!

Minutes are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/October_21

Our next meeting will be on the 28th, just a couple of days before the
BugHunting Session for LibreOffice 5.1. We'll go over any last-minute
updates for the weekend at that point:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/October_28

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] 5.1.0.0.alpha1 builds available

2015-10-23 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

For the upcoming 5.1.0 release, the alpha1 builds are now available on
pre-releases. These builds will have a prefix of:
LibreOfficeDev_5.1.0.0.alpha1.

These builds are built in dev-configuration, so installation will not
overwrite any previous release versions of LibreOffice.

Grab your builds from here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

The list of fixed bugs relative to 5.0.3 is here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-changelog-master-release-5.1.0.0.alpha1.log

For the complete schedule of the 5.1.0 release, see:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.1#5.1.0_release

We greatly appreciate any help in identifying new bugs in this alpha1,
as well as validation that issues marked resolved in master since the
5.0 branch point are completely fixed.



The BugHunting Session for 5.1 will start exactly one week from now.
As experienced testers, please invite people to join you -- and us! --
for 3 days of testing and general shakedown of this alpha1 build. The
more we prod, poke, shake, rattle, and roll these things now, the
better results we'll get :-)

Here's the wiki page for the event.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.1.0.0

QA Mentors:
If you can help guide people on IRC, please add your name and the
days/rough times you can be available to the #Mentors section on the
wiki page. You the real MVP!


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[Libreoffice-qa] Most Annoying Bugs: Wiki docs updated

2015-10-17 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

The MAB docs on the wiki have been updated to reflect the new
Priority-based system for categorizing bugs:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Most_Annoying_Bugs

The old MAB tracker bugs (mab4.3, mab4.4, etc.) will remain in
Bugzilla for historical reference, but should be ignored for current
work. Please make sure that any tooling or documentation that
references the MABs is up to date and references only the new system.

If you run across any additional documentation or software that has
not yet been updated, please let me know so that we can fix it.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Bibisecting: Over 1000 bibisects served!

2015-10-16 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

A big thanks to everyone who's been helping us out with bibisection of
regressions, and a hearty congratulations to Terrence Enger for being
the lucky one to perform the 1000th one (and the 1001st one, too)!

More here:
https://colonelqubit.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/libreoffice-qa-over-1000-bibisects-served/

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisecting: Over 1000 bibisects served!

2015-10-16 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Joel Madero <jmadero@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great news. Do we have any stats on the % of those that are now resolved?
>

Sure thing: 62% of the bugs currently bibisected are RESOLVED or CLOSED.

(CLOSED bugs make up less than 1% of the total -- we don't seem to
bother taking that last step with many of our bugs... ;-)

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> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Robinson Tryon <bishop.robin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A big thanks to everyone who's been helping us out with bibisection of
>> regressions, and a hearty congratulations to Terrence Enger for being
>> the lucky one to perform the 1000th one (and the 1001st one, too)!
>>
>> More here:
>>
>> https://colonelqubit.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/libreoffice-qa-over-1000-bibisects-served/
>>
>> Best,
>> --R
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Further restrictions on Severity field

2015-10-07 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

As I mentioned at the QA Meeting today, we've implemented further
restrictions on access to the Severity field. For users to raise the
Severity above 'normal', they will have to be a member of the
'Contributors' group.

To ensure that new contributors don't have to wait for a Bugzilla
Administrator to show up in IRC, we have 'blessed' several other QA
Team members, giving them the ability to add new users to the
Contributors group. If a newcomers wishes to join the QA Team and help
us properly triage incoming bugs, please ask in the #libreoffice-qa
channel, and it's very likely that one of our delegates will be
available.

QA Team:
After a new user is added to the 'Contributors' group, please help
answer any questions they have, and encourage them to read through all
our documentation about triaging and testing.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard tags created for text layout bugs: text:rtl, text:cjk, text:ctl

2015-10-05 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Aleksandr P <alexpik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, Robinson.
>
> 1. From Wiki:
>> The default text layout is Left-to-Right, so we don't both using a 
>> "text:rtl" tag, as that would be silly.
>
> Could you explain the sentence more clearly?   Is it mean not to use
> both text:rtl and text:ctl?

Good catch: looks like that sentence got mangled, but I've now fixed
it. The intended point was that we don't need to label any
Left-to-Right text layout, as it's the default.

> 2. Should we use any of the tags for problems with top-to-bottom text
> in complex objects, for example, charts?

Hmm, that's a good question. I'm not sure if that text layout uses a
different mechanism, so I'm cc'ing Lior and Matthew Francis to see if
either one has some insight.

> 3. What tag should be used for such bugs as
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65266 which is
> mark as CJK in summary, but the text is not top to bottom?

Another good question for the above pair. My understanding is that
top-to-bottom and cjk are often used interchangeably in text layout,
but there may be more nuance to the situation..

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[Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard tags created for text layout bugs: text:rtl, text:cjk, text:ctl

2015-09-25 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

After some discussion during the conference and at the hackfest
yesterday, we identified new Whiteboard tags to be used to categorize
bugs related to text layout.

Details available here, including links to all bugs using the tags:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard/Advanced#text:xxx


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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-09-16

2015-09-22 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

We had a great QA Meeting this past Wednesday and got some good input
about which types of bugs QA should investigate at the Hackfest. I'm
still interested in hearing your suggestions about particular
categories of bugs that deserve our attention, so please send those in
to me or list them here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Aarhus2015/QA

Minutes:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/September_16

Our next meeting will be the Wednesday after the conference. I'm sure
we'll have a bunch to talk about!
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/September_30

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Chat on Wednesday!

2015-09-15 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Just a quick reminder that because of the Conference next week, we'll
be having our QA Chat tomorrow on Wednesday:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/September_16

There are a number of things on our agenda, including
* Conference: Topics for roundtable discussion?
* Conference: Categories of bugs for the QA portion of the hackfest?

Handy-dandy link to the start time in your region:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=13=00=0=16=09=2015

Hope to see y'all there!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Bugzilla upgraded to 4.4.10

2015-09-14 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Michael Stahl <mst...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 13.09.2015 11:54, Robinson Tryon wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Bugzilla has been upgraded to 4.4.10, and we've made patches to
>> restrict access to the Importance fields (Priority & Severity):
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Administration#Access_Control
>
> h, yay!
>
> but ... the page says only the "blocker" severity is restricted, i hope
> the documentation is incomplete and users can't set their own bugs to
> "critical"?

Yes, further restrictions to the Severity field (and other fields)
will be forthcoming :-) I'd like to make sure these changes are solid
before we deploy further tweaks, so please let us know this week if there are
any issues with the 4.4.10 upgrade or the existing set of restrictions.

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Bugzilla upgraded to 4.4.10 (and Severity/Priority fields restricted)

2015-09-13 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Bugzilla has been upgraded to 4.4.10 and updated patches for
restricting access to the Importance fields (Priority & Severity) have
been deployed as well:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Administration#Access_Control

Everyone in QA (plus the devs) should be a member of the
'Contributors' group in Bugzilla, as well as any users who've read the
wiki pages and understand that we have guidelines for prioritization:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Priority#Getting_Started

One of the Administrators can help add people to this group. Just ping us:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Administration#Administrators

If you see any issues with the Bugzilla upgrade or the access control
that's been implemented, please let me know!

Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-09-09

2015-09-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks for the great QA meeting today! A big thanks to cloph for
helping wrangle IZbot and smooth-over some technical issues. Minutes
are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/September_09

The LibreOffice Annual Conference is taking place 2 weeks from now, so
instead of having a meeting then, we'll have another (shorter) meeting
next week:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/September_16

For anyone attending the conference in Aarhus, please think about
topics that you'd like to discuss at our QA roundtable/lightning
talks.

Cheers,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting this Wednesday!

2015-09-08 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Please join us tomorrow in the #libreoffice-qa IRC channel for our QA Meeting!
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/September_09

Here's the handy-dandy link that converts the start time from UTC to local time:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=13=00=0=09=09=2015

We'll be talking about testing some Bugzilla patches, tackling the
mountain of UNCONFIRMED bugs, the upcoming conference in Aarhus, and
more!

I hope to see y'all there!

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[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 5.0.2 RC1 available

2015-09-08 Thread Robinson Tryon
Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 5.0.2. The upcoming 5.0.2 will be the second
bugfix release of our fresh 5.0 line. Please be aware that LibreOffice
5.0.2 RC1 has not been flagged as ready for production use yet,
however feel free to give it a try instead of 5.0.1.

A work-in-progress list of new features in LibreOffice 5.0 can be
found at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Windows builds are also provided in 64bit version.

Should you find bugs, please report them to our Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs compared to 5.0.1 final (rc2) is
available from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/5.0.2/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Cheers,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA-session @ LibOCon ??

2015-09-07 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Cor Nouws <oo...@nouenoff.nl> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was thinking about a session at the conference where people involved
> in QA meet and exchange experiences and possible ideas.

We've had "roundtable" discussions at previous conferences, and it
would be great to continue that tradition!

>
> Others that would like to join?
> Often I'm able to add a bit of glue, add a bit of structure, to that
> kind of sessions, to make sure that all is heard and noticed.

+1

>
> Idea? Or superfluous since everyone always reads all mails on QA@ ;p

I think you'll be a sage leader/facilitator for the session!

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] Branch libreoffice-5-0-2 and Tag libreoffice-5.0.2.1 created

2015-09-05 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

The tag libreoffice-5.0.2.1 (AKA 5.0.2 RC1) and the corresponding
branch libreoffice-5-0-2 have been created.
The branch will be used for fine tuning of the 5.0.2 release.
(there is one additional RC planned)

The following rules apply:

+ preferably just translation or blocker fixes
+ only cherry-picking from libreoffice-5-0 branch
+ 2 additional reviews needed; 2nd reviewer pushes
+ no regular merges back to anything

The 'libreoffice-5-0' branch is still active and will be used for the
5.0.3 bugfix release. Please read more at
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.0#5.0.2_release
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria

Now, if you want to switch your clone to the branch, please do:

./g pull -r
./g checkout -b libreoffice-5-0-2 origin/libreoffice-5-0-2

To checkout the tag, use

./g fetch --tags
./g checkout -b tag-libreoffice-5.0.2.1 libreoffice-5.0.2.1

Hopefully it will work for you :-)  Most probably, you will also want to
do (if you haven't done it yet):

git config --global push.default tracking

When you do git push with this, git will push only the branch you are
on; e.g. libreoffice-5-0-2 when you have switched to it.  This will
save you some git shouting at you.

Linux distro packages might find source tarballs at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/
They will soon be available from the official page together with the builds.

Attached is the list of changes against 5.0.1 RC2 (5.0.1 final)

Cheers,
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+ revert "When printing ... 'Order' did not count." (bnc#835985) [Jan Holesovsky]
+ DOCX import: rot=90 and vert=vert270 means no text rotation (cid#1315264) [Miklos Vajna]
+ uninitialized scalar field (coverity#1320472) [Caolán McNamara]
+ fix mis-merge (i#121407) [Stephan Bergmann]
+ xmloff: fix Calc header background image saving (i#124638) [Miklos Vajna]
+ handle the NULL clip correctly for pdf output (i#65128) [Thorsten Behrens]
+ svtools: don't commit SvtMenuOptions too early (i#95318) [Michael Stahl]
+ [abrt] libreoffice-core: sdr::table::SvxTableController::SetTableStyle(): soffice.bin killed by SIGSEGV (rhbz#1255200) [Caolán McNamara]
+ [fix available] Calc: Random Number generator can't be edited and applied for cell location (rhbz#1255811) [Eike Rathke]
+ Printing/Exporting to PDF adds text to the side of form elements ('checkbox',...) (tdf#44388) [Thorsten Behrens]
+ UI: Format Cells dialog displays misleading value for 'Decimal places' (tdf#44399) [Laurent Balland-Poirier]
+ The operation on  was started with an invalid parameter (tdf#60381) [Giuseppe Castagno]
+ Sidebar: Styles are missing from Properties tab (tdf#73071) [Yousuf Philips]
+ password protected library does not honnor end user type definition (tdf#75973) [Laurent Godard]
+ Trend line invisible if first data point is missing x value (tdf#76649) [Laurent Balland-Poirier]
+ FORMATTING: CJK ruby text (furigana) in vertical mode pushes characters to the left of the base line (tdf#77514) [Mark Hung]
+ UI: "Freakout"-behaviour and freeze during resize of docked sidebar (tdf#78111) [Maxim Monastirsky]
+ FILEOPEN: DOCX with a footnote hangs LO on open (tdf#79018) [Oliver Specht]
+ Macro with Find @ Replace crash Calc (tdf#79741) [Julien Nabet]
+ UI: Horizontal scrollbar backwards with RTL sheet and kde4 ui (tdf#80512) [Jan-Marek Glogowski]
+ Layout of custom handouts is ignored (tdf#80866) [Jan Holesovsky]
+ SIDEBAR: content panels in tray don't open with accelerators when sidebar is enabled but fully hidden (tdf#83546) [Maxim Monastirsky]
+ 4.4.0.x Automatic font color no longer works (tdf#87922) [Miklos Vajna]
+ FILEOPEN: DOCX - text in shape is wrong direction (tdf#87924) [Miklos Vajna]
+ EDITING: Insert Frame dialog shows empty lists for area fill types (tdf#88986) [Miklos Vajna]
+ FORMATTING, FILESAVE: Header and footer background images are not saved (tdf#89245) [Miklos Vajna]
+ ValueSet has rendering issues in RTL interface (tdf#89381) [Maxim Monastirsky]
+ Highlighted comment text with replies have dark color (tdf#89720) [Miklos Vajna]
+ FORMATTING: Autocapitalisation does not happen if the last word in the previous sentence has a comment in the middle of the word (tdf#89954) [Miklos Vajna]
+ Incorrect Dates in Report created with legacy report wizard (tdf#91022) [Julien Nabet]
+ LO impress crashes when opening pptx with comments (tdf#91060) [Caolán McNamara]
+ UI: Dialogue for Advanced filter is transparent. (tdf#91882) [Michael Meeks]
+ FORMATTING: Parts of Paragraph Border missing when Border around more than one Paragraph (tdf#91969) [Zolnai Tam

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meetings: Better time? Better format? Better theme song?

2015-09-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

I've chatted with many of you briefly over the last week or two about
finding the best time to have our QA Meetings. With us spread out all
over the world, some of you go to sleep before we wake up over here in
the States, so it's always tricky to find one time slot for everyone.

It's important to me to hear from all of you with feedback,
suggestions, and improvements. Having our meeting times on Wednesdays
is very convenient as I can take our concerns or topics and bring them
up the very next day during the Engineering Steering Committee (ESC)
call.

I have a couple different ideas for improvements, but this week I'm
going to do something new and be available this Wednesday every hour,
starting at 1300 (UTC). I'll show up a minute or two past the hour,
say hi, and see how many QA folks are present in the channel. If we've
got 3+ people, we can have a short (or long) chat.

I'm especially interested in hearing from people who haven't been to
QA Meetings in the past, as growing our team and expanding
team-members' skills is vital to our ability to triage and process all
of the incoming bugs and feature requests.

Of course, there's no need for you to wait until Wednesday to bring up
suggestions about meeting days/times or other improvements to our
collaboration. Email still works marvelously well :-)

Looking forward to chatting with all of you this Wednesday!

Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 5.0.1 RC2 available

2015-08-25 Thread Robinson Tryon
Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 5.0.1. The upcoming 5.0.0 will be the first
bugfix release of our fresh 5.0 line. Please be aware that LibreOffice
5.0.1 RC2 has not been flagged as ready for production use yet,
however feel free to give it a try instead of 5.0.0.

A work-in-progress list of new features in LibreOffice 5.0 can be
found at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Windows builds are also provided in 64bit version.

Should you find bugs, please report them to our Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs compared to 5.0.1 RC1 is
available from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/5.0.1/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help!

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-5.0.1.2 (on branch libreoffice-5-0) created

2015-08-22 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

The tag libreoffice-5.0.1.2 (AKA 5.0.1 RC2) on the corresponding
branch libreoffice-5-0 has been created.
The branch will be used for fine tuning of the 5.0.1 release. (It is
the last scheduled RC)

The following rules apply to the branch:

+ preferably just translation or blocker fixes
+ only cherry-picking from libreoffice-5-0 branch
+ 2 additional reviews needed; 2nd reviewer pushes
+ no regular merges back to anything

The 'libreoffice-5-0' branch is still active and will be used for the
5.0.2 bugfix release. Please read more at
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.0#5.0.1_release
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria

To checkout the tag, use

./g fetch --tags
./g checkout -b tag-libreoffice-5.0.1.2 libreoffice-5.0.1.2

Linux distro packages might find source tarballs at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/
They will soon be available from the official page together with the builds.

Attached is the list of changes against 5.0.1.1 (the first RC).

Best,
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+ crash on revisiting insert special character (i#91025) [Caolán McNamara]
+ FORMATTING: Erroneous formatting of certain numbers (tdf#86024) [Eike Rathke]
+ improve performance for some matrix operations (tdf#89387) [Łukasz Hryniuk]
+ Page numbering in the status bar which may cause confusion (tdf#90150) [Jan Holesovsky]
+ Export draw-document to eps result in crash (tdf#91782) [Julien Nabet]
+ UI - StartCenter and Application windows can not be resized diagonally with mouse after initial window size increase and covers OSX Dock (tdf#92242) [andreask]
+ VIEWING: Multiple page view does not render properly when scrolling (tdf#92305) [Jan Holesovsky]
+ Crash in Windows and Runtime exception on Linux with Basic Clipboard function (tdf#92446) [Stephan Bergmann]
+ VLOOKUP not calculated correctly in the large file from Calc 4.4 (hard recalc helps) (tdf#92749) [Eike Rathke]
+ START CENTER: Icon sizes in breeze cause help and extensions buttons not to be visible (tdf#93064) [andreask]
+ Selecting text with keyboard (partially outside current view) results in wrong highlighting and mangled text (tdf#93096) [Miklos Vajna]
+ Crash on enabling image contour (tdf#93102) [Szymon Kłos]
+ Crash Inserting Special Character (tdf#93113) [Caolán McNamara]
+ Insert Special Character - Not reading Fonts Correctly (tdf#93114) [László Németh]
+ SIDEBAR: Style drop down menu increasing the minimum size of the sidebar (tdf#93290) [Maxim Monastirsky]
+ Calc: Alt+E,I,D to fill down now (LO 4.4+ ) toggles edit mode (tdf#93326) [Eike Rathke]
+ Crash moving chart (tdf#93382) [Stephan Bergmann]
+ status indicator progress bar not shown while loading big file (tdf#93404) [Stephan Bergmann]
i#91025 crash on revisiting insert special character [Caolán McNamara]
tdf#86024 FORMATTING: Erroneous formatting of certain numbers [Eike Rathke]
tdf#89387 improve performance for some matrix operations [Łukasz Hryniuk]
tdf#90150 Page numbering in the status bar which may cause confusion [Jan Holesovsky]
tdf#91782 Export draw-document to eps result in crash [Julien Nabet]
tdf#92242 UI - StartCenter and Application windows can not be resized diagonally with mouse after initial window size increase and covers OSX Dock [andreask]
tdf#92305 VIEWING: Multiple page view does not render properly when scrolling [Jan Holesovsky]
tdf#92446 Crash in Windows and Runtime exception on Linux with Basic Clipboard function [Stephan Bergmann]
tdf#92749 VLOOKUP not calculated correctly in the large file from Calc 4.4 (hard recalc helps) [Eike Rathke]
tdf#93064 START CENTER: Icon sizes in breeze cause help and extensions buttons not to be visible [andreask]
tdf#93096 Selecting text with keyboard (partially outside current view) results in wrong highlighting and mangled text [Miklos Vajna]
tdf#93102 Crash on enabling image contour [Szymon Kłos]
tdf#93113 Crash Inserting Special Character [Caolán McNamara]
tdf#93114 Insert Special Character - Not reading Fonts Correctly [László Németh]
tdf#93290 SIDEBAR: Style drop down menu increasing the minimum size of the sidebar [Maxim Monastirsky]
tdf#93326 Calc: Alt+E,I,D to fill down now (LO 4.4+ ) toggles edit mode [Eike Rathke]
tdf#93382 Crash moving chart [Stephan Bergmann]
tdf#93404 status indicator progress bar not shown while loading big file [Stephan Bergmann]
+ core
+ Fill to F~ill, Ed~it Mode to E~dit Mode (tdf#93326) [Eike Rathke]
+ breeze: StartCenter icon size fixed to 32px (tdf#93064, tdf#92242) [andreask]
+ bump product version to 5.0.1.1.0+ [Christian Lohmaier]
+ bump product version to 5.0.1.2 [Robinson Tryon]
+ convert pStatus to vector and use

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 5.0.1 RC2 test builds available

2015-08-22 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hello all,

For the upcoming version 5.0.1 the builds for RC2 are now available as
a pre-release.

It is a build in release-configuration, meaning that it will update a
previous version of LibreOffice on Windows.
Linux and Mac users can install alongside LibreOffice 4.4

For the complete schedule., see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.0#5.0.1_release

Grab the builds from here here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

The list of fixed bugs relative to 5.0.1 rc1 is here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-5-0-1-release-5.0.1.2.log

Testing against the areas touched and the bugs fixed since the last
tag is greatly appreciated, as it helps us to confirm the stability of
this build.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Best,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting this Wednesday!

2015-07-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

We'll be having our QA Meeting this Wednesday:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/July_29

Please write down any topics you'd like to discuss, and we'll try to
get to all of them during the meeting. On a relevant note, I know that
many of you have been eager to make changes and tweaks to Bugzilla, so
I'll be spending time this week on a project to make it much easier
for everyone to contribute.

Hope to see all of you at the meeting on Wednesday!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Temporarily reverting patch to Importance fields

2015-07-18 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:
 Now that we've actually had people testing it - is the only issue the
 NEEDINFO to NEW bug? I'm looking at the code now and probably can get a
 fix by this weekend.

That's one of the unintended side effects. Take a look at this thread
for a few more details, including Asigned-To:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2015-July/069235.html

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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Temporarily reverting patch to Importance fields

2015-07-16 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

As we've run into some unintended side effects from our latest local
changes to Bugzilla, I've reverted our field-restriction patch for the
time being.

This means that everyone will once again be able to make changes to
the Severity and Priority fields, so please do keep a watchful eye out
for miscategorized bugs.

The upgrade to Bugzilla v4.4.9 appears to be fine, so I'm leaving
those patches in place.

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-07-15

2015-07-15 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks to everyone who contributed during the meeting today!  Minutes
are available on the wiki here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/July_15

Our next meeting will be in two weeks, on July 29th:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/July_29

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-07-14 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Quick reminder that we'll be having our QA Meeting this Wednesday at
the *earlier* time we tried out at our last meeting:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/July_15

Here's the direct link to the handy-dandy
when-is-it-in-my-local-time-zone? tool :-
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=11min=30sec=0day=15month=07year=2015

Hope to see you there!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] No 5.0.0.3 rc in Bugzilla

2015-07-13 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
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 there is no version 5.0.0.3 rc in bugzilla.

Fixed!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collabora LibreOffice Vanilla QA on OSX

2015-06-23 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Alexander Thurgood
alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just a heads up to say that I won't / can't / don't have the time /
 energy to QA LibreOffice Vanilla for OSX as released by Collabora

Hi Alex,

Thanks for all your hard work w/the OS X bugs! Everyone is of course
free to work on whatever projects he or she wishes, but please don't
feel any obligation from the TDF side to test the Collabora OS X
builds.

 - I
 barely have time enough to try and keep the unconfirmed bug count down
 on OSX, without having  to deal with a version that is apparently built
 differently.

How differently is it built? My understanding is that it's pretty
close, but I haven't had a chance to really delve into the details. As
we likely will start to see bugs showing up in Bugzilla, it might be
good for us to make some notes for QA, just so we can make sure that
reports get shuffled-over to the right people who can triage them and
then fix them.

 As an aside, what exactly is the expectation here ?

From the Collabora side, I'd expect that Michael and/or Sam Tuke would
be good people to answer any questions about their particular goals,
etc. Speaking just as a project volunteer, I know that I've gotten
inquiries from multiple Mac users in the past couple of years asking
about whether we were ever going to make LibreOffice available via
this app store, so I think that there is a good potential market for
users who like the ease of installation and updates.

 At the moment, I am
 trying to understand whether this is going to become a permanent fixture
 of the landscape, a bit like NeoOffice (to which I donate once a year,
 but take no interest in the project otherwise),

What's the status of NeoOffice? I haven't heard any news from that
front in years.

 What effect will that have
 on the TDF build in the long term ?

It's *possible* that most mac users will gravitate towards an install
via a trusted and easy-to-use update mechanism. I know that there's
some GSoC work to repurpose the Mozilla updater this summer as well,
so perhaps there will be even more choices for mac users soon.

I don't expect that our mac userbase will jump on the app store
bandwagon overnight, and many will probably never buy-in to that
system at all. I see this development as largely being about choice
and convenience, and I think the shiny packaging will attract both
some number of our existing userbase as well as a good number of new
users who decide to try out LibreOffice.

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-06-17 (PLUS: BugHunting Session all this weekend!)

2015-06-19 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Remember that we're having a BugHunting Session all this weekend for
the RC1 of LibreOffice 5.0. If you want to join in or have questions
about where to start, please see the wiki page here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.0.0_RC1

...and drop by the IRC channel here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/IRC

Regarding the QA Meeting, a big thanks to everyone who showed up this
past Wednesday. I know that the time late in the day isn't the best
for many of you, so we'll be trying something a bit different for our
next meeting (July 1st), and starting much earlier.

Minutes from our meeting:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/June_17

Our next meeting: (tentatively starting 6h earlier than usual)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/July_01


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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder! QA Meeting this Wednesday on #libreoffice-qa

2015-06-15 Thread Robinson Tryon
Info and schedule (including a handy-dandy link to determine the start
time in your time zone) is here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/June_17

Bring topics to discuss, and we will!  (Discuss them, that is..)

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[Libreoffice-qa] Win 64 bit builds are available! Windows 10 tests especially appreciated!

2015-06-11 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

A big thanks to cloph for providing our latest Win 64bit native
builds. With the release of Windows 10 coming up very soon, we'd like
to get as much testing done as possible with our 5.0 pre-release
beta and (soon) RC builds.

Please find the 5.0.0 Beta 3 builds on our dev-builds server:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86_64/?C=N;O=D

Remember: The devs have requested that we test the addressbook
integration bits, as those have been changed on Win 10 (Thunderbird -
mork)

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-06-03

2015-06-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks for the great QA Meeting on Wednesday! Minutes are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/June_03

Our next meeting will be in 2 weeks:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/June_17

= Windows 64bit Native Builds =

I know that many of you are excited to test out our newest win64 bit
builds -- we've run into a few issues, and are working to have our
buildbots back up and running as soon as possible.

= Windows 10: Are you running it? =

It's very important that we have people testing LibreOffice on the
latest betas of Windows 10 before it's officially released at the end
of July. If you're not sure how to get started, join the
#libreoffice-qa IRC channel and ask for help!

= UNCONFIRMED Bug Count is UP =

The UNCONFIRMED bug count is creeping back up again. If you have some
spare time to tackle a handful of bugs, please put on your favorite
triaging hat and jump in! If you run into anything especially hard,
join us on IRC.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting Tomorrow

2015-06-02 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Agenda is here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/June_03

Hope to see you all there!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] No 64 bit master for Windows

2015-06-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Florian Reisinger
flo...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hi,

 I switched to pastebin to easify updating the daily builds download links.
 I realized, that no 64-Bit master is available :/

Hmm... did we have a 64bit tinderbox running at one point?  (I don't
see one listed here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Tinderbox) I can check
w/cloph about that.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 4.4.4 RC1 available

2015-05-31 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jean-Baptiste Faure-3 wrote
 It seems there is an issue in the website download script: this RC1
 appears as LibreOffice 4.4.4 unknown release-state (Release Notes)
 instead of RC1.

 I can confirm that the Windows RC1 is oddly numbered as

 Version: 4.4.4.1.0+
 Build ID: 24c5f9979e61fde7b098af60756a4890e5713390

Thanks for the ping!

I took a look, and it looks like the builds have
LibreOffice_4.4.4.1.0 as their version # on the server, with the
GNU/Linux builds I tested having Version: 4.4.4.1.0+ displayed in
the About box. I'm guessing that they accidentally had an extra digit
added to the version number before/during the initial build process.
As far as I can tell, that naming issue hasn't affected the operation
of our testing.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug/feature on Bugzilla?

2015-05-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all

 I provided feedback on bug
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90127
 (comment #10)
 but was never notified of later comments or that the bug was fixed.

 Is this the new default or is something broken?

I'm cc'd on that bug, and I do see email updates regarding the latest
changes made on May 25th. I don't see you in the cc list -- is it
possible that you weren't cc'd on the bug at the time?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting this Wednesday!

2015-05-18 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Just a friendly reminder to one and all that our next QA Meetings will
be this Wednesday. Find us in the #libreoffice-qa channel on Freenode.

For the time in your local timezone, agenda, etc.., see the wiki page here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/May_20

I hope to see all of you there!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla: See Also doesn't like bugs.python.org?

2015-05-10 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com wrote:

 http://bugs.python.org/issue17797 is not a valid URL to a bug. See Also
 URLs should point to one of:

 show_bug.cgi in a Bugzilla installation.
 A bug on launchpad.net
 An issue on code.google.com.
 A bug on bugs.debian.org.
 An issue in a JIRA installation.
 A ticket in a Trac installation.
 A bug in a MantisBT installation.
 A bug on sourceforge.net.
 An issue on github.com.


 ^ is that a standard bugzilla error or some configuration on our side?

I think that's just a standard Bugzilla error -- I don't recall us
ever playing around with that configuration. I'll take a look in more
detail this week and try to get this resolved :-)

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-05-06

2015-05-08 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks for the great meeting on Wednesday! Meeting minutes are available here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/May_06

Our next meeting is taking place in two weeks
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/May_20

Interestingly, May 20th also happens to be Metrology Day, dedicated to
the worldwide uniformity of measurement:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Metrology_Day

Goodness knows that QA testing is very non-uniform at times, but we
can definitely strive for consistency and repeatability in all that we
do!

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-04-22

2015-04-24 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks for the great QA Meeting on Wednesday! Minutes are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/April_22

Our next meeting will be on May 6th:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/May_06


We've been facing a tough challenge staying below 300 UNCONFIRMED
bugs, with our count currently back up at 324. By our Bug Hunting
Session for 5.0 in May, I hope that we can bring that number down to
250 (and not have it increase back to 300+)

Here are a few tips to help us get some traction in this space:

1) Make sure the summary is accurate

If the summary is vague, please clarify it. Or ask the reporter to do
so (and put the bug in NEEDINFO)

2) Use NEEDINFO whenever you need info from the reporter

If something about the bug isn't clear, if you need a document for
testing, or if you need repro steps from the bug reporter, please
leave a note and put the bug in NEEDINFO status.

We've added an automatic message that lets the bug reporter know that
they should change the status back to UNCONFIRMED after they reply
and/or provide the requested info or materials.

3) Add repro needs to the Whiteboard

If the bug requires Windows 7 and you don't have it, please put
'needsWin7' in the Whiteboard. If the bug requires a WebDAV server for
testing, put 'needsWebDAV' in the Whiteboard.

Appropriate tagging of UNCONFIRMED bugs will help the rest of QA
narrow-in on those particular bugs that require certain repro
environments, and let us complete triage more quickly and more
efficiently.

4) Use [hard to reproduce] in the Summary if testing with the same setup

If you test a bug using the same software and OS versions as the bug
reporter (e.g. LO 4.3.2 + Win7) and can't reproduce the problem, feel
free to add [hard to reproduce] at the end of the Summary.

This tag provides a visual clue to the rest of QA that this bug is
unlikely to be easily reproduced, and that unless they're looking for
a big challenge, they should spend time triaging other bugs.


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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Versions: 4.5-master vs. 5.0-master ?

2015-04-19 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Raal brings up a good point regarding versions in Bugzilla: We're
jumping right from 4.4 - 5.0, so 4.5.0.0alpha0+ has just become
5.0.0.0.0alpha0+ (master) in daily builds.

There are a few different ways we can deal with this change in
Bugzilla. Should we:
- Just rename the version in Bugzilla?
- Add the new version as a separate entry?
- Use a combo like 4.5.0.0/5.0.0.0 Master ?

Feedback appreciated :-)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] my reduced QA activity

2015-04-12 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:
 I've been very busy at work and some familiar medical issues (which
 fortunately seems going towards  resolution) reduced drastically the time I
 can dedicate to the LibO project.

Hey Tommy,
Thanks for all of your hard work -- it's really appreciated! When you
have more time in the future, it'll be great to see you back in action
with the team :-)


 I'm sorry I can't give more help in this moment and I hope in the future to
 be back on track.

We'll hold down the fort until then! Is there anything in particular
that you think needs more attention right now?  A particular set of
bugs/documentation/etc..?

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-03-11

2015-03-13 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks to everyone for a great QA Meeting this Wednesday. Minutes are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/March_11

Our next meting is in two weeks, on Document Freedom Day!
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/March_25

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] (no subject)

2015-02-15 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 2:45 AM, singandp...@alice.it
singandp...@alice.it wrote:
 hi


Hi!

Do you have a question, or are you just saying hello? :-)  I've heard
it said that QA is the friendliest team around!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Problems reactivating my bugzilla account after migration to df.org

2015-02-13 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, a07cd040897db54e1...@spambog.com
a07cd040897db54e1...@spambog.com wrote:
 Hello,

 after you moved the LibreOffice bugtracker from freedesktop.org to
 documentfoundation.org i am unable to login anymore. As suggested on your
 website i tried resetting my password, but after entering my username
 a07cd040897db54e1...@spambog.com on
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/index.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1migration_passwordreset=1#forgot;
 and clicking the button Reset Password I do NOT RECEIVE ANY email.

 I retried several times without any success. I also checked the spam folder:
 negative. I assume, that the verification email, was never sent by your
 mailserver.

 Please help me reactivating my account.

Hiya,
(Looks like your message might've gotten trapped in the filters for
the qa mailng list for a spel)

Are you all squared away now? If not, email me back and we can get
your account reset.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla User Stats

2015-02-12 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

From the ESC call this morning:
 * QA (Robinson)
 + how many people have migrated from the fdo (updated their accounts)? 
 (Bjoern)
 + will try to find the number (Robinson)

Results:

We have
17,892 total user accounts in Bugzilla, comprising
536 users who have successfully migrated from FDO,
17,002 who haven't, and
354 new accounts.

In terms of activity, we've had
448 users active in the last week, and
1304 active in the last month.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?

2015-02-12 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM, David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com wrote:

 Btw, why is this suddenly a problem? There were dozens of products in
 FreeDesktop bugzilla...

I think people want to make it easier for newbies who, generally
speaking, only want to file a bug against LibreOffice. The issue I see
is that we have other user-friendly products like the Impress Remote,
and I can imagine that we may have more such products in the future.

I think that perhaps this is a question for the Design Team to help
address. We have full control of the Bugzilla code, so we can always
play around with the first page that people see. Example:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi

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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2015-02-11

2015-02-11 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Thanks for the great meeting today! Minutes are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/February_11

ACTION Items are:

* ACTION: Rob will (hopefully have time to) tell us more about
Bugzilla Guided Forms by the next meeting :-)

* ACTION: Sophie will file bug(s) re: the FR-BSA (to Robinson/Cloph)

* ACTION: jmadero, jab_, and beluga will chat about our strategy of
collaborating with universities

Our next meeting will take place in two weeks:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2015/February_25


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA

2015-02-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Harald Köster harald.koes...@mail.de wrote:
 Hi all,

 the BSA has been broken for several weeks. Meanwhile also the link from
 the feedback page (1) to the BSA is cut and you are directed directly to
 the Document Foundation Bugzilla main page.

Ayup, that's intentional.


 Is it intended to fix the problems with the BSA at all?
 Or is intended to use a guided-bug-entry-skin (2) as it was asked in the
 ESC minutes from 2015-01-29?

We've been discussing using the guided mechanism within Bugzilla
since... a couple years ago? Now that we've migrated, this is a real
possibility.


 I would appreciate if there will be again a guided possibility to report
 bugs. I think particularly for users with less English knowledge and/or
 if they are unexperienced bug reporters, this would be a great help.

 (1) http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/
 (2)
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOfficeformat=guided

Indeed, indeed. The Guided forms are definitely something that we're
currently investigating. If you'd like to help out with setting-up
these forms, we'd love the help. Just ping me back and we can chat :-)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Compatibility, Open Source, Microsoft

2015-02-07 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Julio Cesar Campos
kabbalah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, There is an excellent work and progress in Libreoffice,
 congratulations. I use LibreOffice as the only program for all activities,
 and certainly I am very grateful and pleased with their performance, and the
 work of so many people behind this.

Thanks, Julio!

 Each time it is launched a new version of LibreOffice, I use the attachment
 to test compatibility and always see great progress, I'm sure you do the
 same every time, but I would like to hear your comments about the difference
 when you open the attachment with Microsoft office and Libreoffice, I do it
 with a spirit of curiosity and support.

Have you filed any bugs against this document? That's often the best
way for us to track down and fix particular issues with layout,
rendering, performance speed, etc.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org

 Thanks for your kind attention and response.


Thanks for the feedback!  Together, we can make the next release of
LibreOffice even better!

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[Libreoffice-qa] On the topic of Backporting bugs fixed on master

2015-02-02 Thread Robinson Tryon
[ moved to better forum from
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89039 ]

---
Comment # 5 on bug 89039 from V Stuart Foote
Regards resolving WFM, guess that is OK if that is the QA consensus.

But the logic escapes me then of even retaining MABs (or tracking Metas). If a
bug shows as resolved in the MAB listing (or any tracking Meta)--it does not
get further reviewed--and then we have to drag BZ for the issues.
---

Sure. That's us running into the limitations of Bugzilla, really.

---
Which then
requires an advanced query against Whiteboard field to match regular expression
backportRequest or similar strings.
---

Queries are here, for reference:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Useful_Queries#Backport_Requests

---
With 4.4.0 just out of the gate, valid new MABs are going to bubble up against
the branch--I just don't see a reason to close them so quickly and then to
depend on someone doing a reverse bibisect and back-port requests.
---

Regardless of what we mark the bugs in Bugzilla, our fastest tool for
figuring out which commit fixed a bug is by a reverse-bibisect. And
the backportRequest:X.y tag is a very specific way for us to
communicate our intentions with the developers.

We don't currently have a way to indicate a status for each branch
that's active, but if we were to add that, then we could say NEW for
4.4 and RESOLVED for 4.5. I'm not sure of the best way to add that
without making things more confusing... Bugzilla isn't quite that
customizable.

---
Which
can't even be done for OS X or Windows issues.
---

Well, we can do some limited bibisecting on both platforms. I really
hope that in 2015 we can make bibisecting much more doable for both
Win and OSX.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] suggestion for weekly-bug-summary

2015-01-31 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 3:12 PM, bfoman bfo.bugm...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
 BTW: I would like to see Bugzilla custom changes announcements (with
 rationale when needed) somewhere else than only in git repo at
 https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=bugzilla.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tdf-4.4.6.

Yep, sounds good to me! Just need to find enough hours in the day :P
Would be neat for us to have blog posts/tweets about some of our
bigger improvements.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Unable to set ux-advise bugs to NEW in new bugzilla

2015-01-31 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 As ux-advise bugs are not supposed to be affecting the QA bug count, the
 new bugzilla doesnt permit me to change its status when creating a bug
 report.

Hi Jay,

I did some tweaking of the config in Bugzilla 4.4.6 to make sure that
bugs would default to UNCONFIRMED when filed, and the simplest method
was to make UNCONFIRMED the only choice for a newly-created bug. You
can always create the bug, then change status to NEW afterwards. Or do
a bulk-change, if you're filing a bunch of reports at once.

From my understanding, the difference I saw on the backend is related
to changing bug workflows that have been introduced to Bugzilla in
modern versions. We can try to bring back the ability to set bugs to
NEW during filing, but I think it's worth our time to also take a look
at the suggested workflow in Bugzilla, and see if we might wish to
adopt it.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] suggestion for weekly-bug-summary

2015-01-31 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree that it would be good  it is possible.
 Can I change add a query myself to that page?
 So you can clone our instance of bugzilla: git clone
 git://gerrit.libreoffice.org/bugzilla and try to figure out how that
 page is generated. I triedcouldn't find it for the life of me :-/

Anyone can check out the tdf-bugzilla repo. I think that I might need
to set up some code review via gerrit for patches, but I've been kept
busy with Bugzilla and other QA tasks in the last couple weeks --
guess I'll file a task for myself in Redmine to get gerrit working :-)

For the time being, if you've already submitted a contrib statement as
a LibreOffice developer, feel free to send me patches via email and
I'll review and merge them in. If stuff isn't MPL, or you didn't write
it, then we'll need to discuss further.

Deployment is via salt and git, and I have some notes here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Deployment
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Development

 But as Bjoern said, we'd have to license it appropriately and possibly
 upstream.

AFAIK there's no legal requirement to upstream our patches to
Bugzilla, but we're definitely in favor of it!  (Especially as it
reduces the size of the patchset we have to migrate from one Bugzilla
release to the next)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] suggestion for weekly-bug-summary

2015-01-31 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen
bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 04:14:24PM -0800, Joel Madero wrote:
 I've never been a fan of this split to begin with. Having a much less
 visible means of suggesting enhancement requests or bugs pretty much
 just sucks. Just speaking for myself, I'm very unlikely to report any
 enhancement requests about bugzilla on redmine...

 Oh, hate the split too. The split will not go away easily though (I tried.
 Hard.). Yeah, sucks. Still, the best we can do now is have a clear cut rather
 than fractured border between the two.

It's indeed frustrating to go through the work of the Bugzilla
migration, only to run into the challenges presented by a split
bugtracker. Two bugtrackers may not be ideal, but there are some
concrete steps we can take to reduce the pain:

* Set up LDAP to allow shared logins for both trackers
* Decide on protocol for dealing with bugs misfiled in the wrong tracker
* Make sure that QA and other groups feel welcomed to file bugs and
enhancements in redmine, particularly against Bugzilla

 So we're only tracking enhancement requests if the reporter can either
 (1) do it themselves; or (2) they can show that it's reasonably
 resourced? I can't imagine a similar strategy working for LibreOffice
 itself - we might as well close 99% of enhancement requests. I don't get
 why we'd have two different philosophies just because one is infra
 and the other is  something else?

IMHO, just because we're mandated to use a different tool shouldn't
change our policies regarding what's valid. Others with bigger hats
can always override me, but at least for enhancement suggestions
regarding Bugzilla, I'd suggest that we use the same threshold as we
use for bugs filed in Bugzilla.

 So, maybe Im overcautious. ;)

 As an exaggeration: There is a risk that we end up with 20 people working on
 making our Bugzilla nice and beautiful and 1 guy working on triaging
 LibreOffice. Also note that all customization cumulates to create extra pains
 during updates etc.  IMHO we should just keep in mind to keep the fixed costs
 of running our Bugzilla constant and rather low[1].

Sure, there are definitely trade-offs to be had. All of the QA Team
work that will take place in Redmine will be meta-work, and I expect
those tasks will appeal to only a subset of our total members. The
entire goal of the meta work will be simplifying and improving the
effectiveness of QA, so if we end up with a 20:1 ratio of people
improving Bugzilla vs. Triaging, either we'll end up with the best
improvements to any Bugzilla, anywhere, or we'll run out of tasks in a
week!

Now that we've upgraded Bugzilla to a much more modern version, we can
also take a look at our current bug workflow and compare that to the
suggested workflow from Bugzilla itself. It's possible that we might
want to adopt some of the new changes from upstream.

 [1] For example that we ended up with a Redmine/Bugzilla split (which is
 already a simplification over the mess we had before that) is ultimately a
 result of bit too much fast-and-loose play with extending, creating and
 customizing services.

Lesson learned: It's always good to try to plan for the future, and to
involve other TDF/LibreOffice teams when making decisions that impact
them.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] suggestion for weekly-bug-summary

2015-01-31 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen
bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote:
 Nope. Bugzilla is Infra. Infra is on Redmine.

Here are the Bugzilla bugs on redmine:
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/infrastructure/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93set_filter=1f%5B%5D=status_idop%5Bstatus_id%5D=of%5B%5D=category_idop%5Bcategory_id%5D=%3Dv%5Bcategory_id%5D%5B%5D=50f%5B%5D=c%5B%5D=trackerc%5B%5D=statusc%5B%5D=priorityc%5B%5D=subjectc%5B%5D=assigned_toc%5B%5D=updated_onc%5B%5D=due_dategroup_by=

Sorry about the ugly urls; I'll see if we can make those look nicer.

To file a new bug, use the 'Infrastructure' project and the
'Bugzilla' category.
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/infrastructure/issues/new
(I haven't figured out how to pass-in params in that URL to set the category)

If infra wants to do a lot of triage and prioritizing over all bugs
filed under 'Infra', we can talk about having a separate or
sub-project just for Bugzilla and QA tasks.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] that walrus

2015-01-29 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:16 PM, bfoman bfo.bugm...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
 Hi!
 Shouldn't it be stable-walrus and not lab-walrus? All went fine with the
 migration.

:-)

People liked the walrus with all the lab equipment, and requested that
he stick around, so I left him there for now.

(New incarnations very welcome -- ping me for source SVGs and so forth
if you'd like to hop in and show off your skills or artistry! I'm
getting on a plane soon, so it might take a little while before I can
respond!)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] that walrus

2015-01-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:

 hi there, I'm curious to know the name of that walrus mascot we have in our
 own bugzilla.

It's a mystery!

I get a feeling that we might want to have a contest about naming him.
I have some good ideas for a prize :-)

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[Libreoffice-qa] And then there were two...

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
Bugzilla Products Table (bug counts):

  Impress Remote - 1
  LibreOffice - 33642

:-)

--

I've stubbed-in the basics for the Impress Remote product. Before we
jump in and move-over all of the bugs, let's get our ducks in a row
and our fields set up properly.

1) Are we missing any version #'s?

(Should those all be 'X.y.z alpha' or 'X.y.z final' ? Looks like
that's the naming convention so far, right Cloph?)

2) What Components should this product have?

Here's a start:
- Documentation
- General
- Localization
- UI

3) What's the difference between the Android and iOS ports?

NOTE: Both Android and iOS have been added to the 'OS' field (this is
a global field for all products). Please set this field when
migrating-over bug reports.

4) FirefoxOS? There's some code in there... have we ever built it?

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=impress_remote.git;a=history;f=firefoxos/sdremote;hb=HEAD

5) How about the Pebble remote? Should this have its own component?

(Gülşah: you're the expert here :-)


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com wrote:
 if i go to Saved Searches there are a whole bunch of XOrg and GPU
 driver related ones imported from FDO; somebody with sufficient
 privileges needs to clean up there.

HIya,
I cleaned up some of the obvious queries. Are there any more that
should be removed?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adopt-a-Component

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

I just had a quick idea for getting people more involved with bug
triage and testing: Adopt-a-Component
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Components#Components

The idea is simple: If you put your name in the table to 'Adopt a
component', you're signaling that you really want to help triage bugs
in that area. Perhaps you have a particular skill with that program or
category, or you're just gung-ho about getting those particular bugs
fixed.

Of course, a person is always free to triage whatever bugs he likes,
but I think that getting people to sign up for a role can be a
positive mechanism to help contributors feel that they have a specific
focus to their work, and to take pride when their component(s) meet
our targets for first response (1 week) and full triage (2 weeks).

Anyhow, stop listening to me blather, and go sign up for your favorite
components!

Best,
--R

P.S. Feel free to invite a friend to sign up to Adopt a particular
Component, too. Maybe you can have a little friendly competition
between components? :-)

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[Libreoffice-qa] Help me make a 'welcome box' for people redirected from FDO

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Bugzilla post-migration is going well. If you've been poking around
the bug tracker lately, you've probably seen a few little fixes and
improvements here and there. Those will continue to trickle-in over
the next few weeks.

Tollef (our awesome contact/sysadmin) at FDO has modified redirect bug
urls for us. So if you go here:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58920

You get redirected here:
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58920redirected_from=fdo

I'd like to put a little infobox (welcome box) up on the screen
whenever someone gets forwarded to us from FDO. I'm thinking it could
look like a post-it, or maybe just a box that slides out from the
right-hand side of the screen. We can add a greeting, and provide some
help for people who might still be unfamiliar with the migration.
Example:

Welcome to the new TDF Bugzilla!
You've been redirected from Freedesktop to
bugs.documentfoundation.org, as we've just migrated all the
LibreOffice bugs to our own bugtracker!

If you already had an account in Bugzilla, click [here] to activate
your migrated user account. If you never had an account, click [here]
to set one up!

Questions? Somethings? Try the
* Migration FAQ
* QA IRC Channel
* etc..

I'd love it if someone could mock-up some HTML for this post-it note!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] And then there were two...

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Gülşah Köse gulsah.1...@gmail.com wrote:
 2015-01-27 10:54 GMT+02:00 Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com:
 2) What Components should this product have?

 - Installation
 - Connection
 - Pebble
 - Android
 - iOS
 - FirefoxOS

I was under the impression that there was some shared code between
Android and iOS, but it sounds like each app is separate, so
(theoretically) they could be separate products. At least for now,
I've made up Components for each one: 'Android app', 'iOS app', etc.
Hopefully those names will help clue-in users that there is a
difference between each product.

Now that leaves an open question about how we should handle version
numbers. (I guess we can use the same #s for each app; there just
won't be correlation between the apps as to what a particular number
means in terms of functionality)

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[Libreoffice-qa] Hijack bulk bug updates to remind about Bugzilla Migration

2015-01-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
Quick reminder:

The next time we (read: probably Joel) do some bulk updates of bug
reports, we shoudl leverage that opportunity to insert a small
reminder about the migration of Bugzilla, password reset, etc.

Linking to this would probably be good:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/TDF_Bugzilla_Proposal/Migration_Userguide#After_the_Migration

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robinson Tryon wrote
 Before you can log-in and start working on bugs, you'll need to reset
 your password. Read more here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/TDF_Bugzilla_Proposal/Migration_Userguide#After_the_Migration

 The Bugzilla email with subject Bugzilla Change Password Request went
 directly into my GMail Spam mailbox.

 So this is a warning for  people who use Google Mail (and possibly other
 email providers): If don't receive any email for resetting the Bugzilla
 password in your Primary, Social or Promotions mailbox, then you should
 check the Spam mailbox.

Thanks, Pedro -- I've updated the guide to tell people to check their
Spam folder.

Best,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:
 @Robinson - should we add a new product (bugzilla) so that these kinds
 of enhancement requests can be added? As I said several times already,
 thanks for your work here (and the other people who did so much work).

There are some Bugzilla meta bugs being tracked in Redmine, but
ideally I'd like to add a 'Bugzilla' product to TDF Bugzilla. Let me
confirm with infra that they're on board for that.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Buzilla Tweets need tweaking ?

2015-01-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
 As far as I see, the tweets have stopped after the migration ?


IIRC, I don't have perms to the feeding tool:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Twitter


Joren -- can you poke the dlvr.it account, please?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] links to the old bugzilla

2015-01-25 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
  This page holds some links to the old bugzilla
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

 Actually I have no control of that page itself, hence my initial
 question. Robinson? Cloph?

I've filed a bug for Cloph, Rob, and me:
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1047

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-25 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
jbfa...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 What about the mailing-list libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org ?
 Is there a plan for a replacement ML ?

AFAIK that mailing list is serving us fine as-is, so I'm happy to
stick with it. Any reasons to change?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-25 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
jbfa...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Le 25/01/2015 19:21, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
 AFAIK that mailing list is serving us fine as-is, so I'm happy to
 stick with it. Any reasons to change?

 I agree, the problem is that it does not work anymore. Since yesterday
 new bugs reports seem to be not sent to this ML.

Hmm, let me pick up my meerschaum pipe and investigate... :-)


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[Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-24 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi everyone!

The migration was a great success. All of our bugs are now happily living at

  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

Bugs should be referenced using the shorthand tdf#, such as tdf#12345.
On the wiki, you can write {{tdf|12345}} to link to a bug report.

Before you can log-in and start working on bugs, you'll need to reset
your password. Read more here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/TDF_Bugzilla_Proposal/Migration_Userguide#After_the_Migration

If you have any questions or encounter any problems, please stop by
the QA IRC channel or drop us a note on the mailing list:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/IRC
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Mailing_List

A huge thanks to everyone who helped make this migration go quickly
and smoothly! Let's go tackle some open bugs!

Cheers,
--R

P.S. You'll start to see some updates and changes in Bugzilla over the
coming weeks. The QA Team is excited to work on improving, updating,
and polishing our bugtracker. We're always happen to have more people
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] TDF Tablets

2015-01-24 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Luc Castermans
luc.casterm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Joel, i own Nexus 9. More then happy to test.

Hi Luc,
Thanks for helping out! Could you please test this Android report?
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88500

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[Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] Starting shortly! Bugtracker will down for a few hours

2015-01-24 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

It's that time!  We're just about to migrate Bugzilla from
Freedesktop.org to TDF infrastructure.

For up-to-date information about the migration, join the
#libreoffice-qa IRC channel on Freenode and say hi!

For general information, see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/TDF_Bugzilla_Proposal/Migration_Userguide#Guide


KEY DETAILS:

- Migration Date: January 24th, 2015 at 15:00 UTC

- Migration Duration: Approximately 4-6 hours

- New URL: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/


Once the migration is complete, I'll send out another email letting
you know you may once again ply us with myriad bug reports :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration will happen next Saturday (Jan 24th)

2015-01-18 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:09 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote:
 Robinson, *,

 So until migration is underway, our existing credential's have been
 copied--but are not functional.

Right now, Bugzilla is up and running at Freedesktop.org. Until the
migration, do all your work there.

We also have a couple of test servers for internal testing purposes,
but all the bug/user data will be wiped on Saturday during the
migration. (More details on that below)

 At what point can we actually set our password on the tdf instance of
 bugzilla?

People should continue to use Bugzilla at FDO until the migration
starts on Saturday. After the migration is complete, I'll send out
some emails letting people know that it's time to use the new TDF
Bugzilla.

 Currently the reset is referring the dialog back to fdo--a little
 confusing.

What reset? What URL?

Right now, both bugs.libreoffice.org and bugs.documentfoundation.org
are pointing to FDO. This is intentional, and designed to help
simplify the transition from FDO infra to TDF infra.

There's no reason for anyone to try to reset their password before the
migration, as everyone will still need to reset his/her password after
we migrate.

  When should we attempt a login?

After the migration is completed on Saturday.

 As is, have not yet been able to login to the tdf BZ instance--assuming that
 is intended.

Until the migration is done this Saturday, there is no official TDF
Bugzilla yet.

We do have a couple of test installs of the Bugzilla data, and if
anyone wants to poke at the install (db dump is from ~Jan 2nd), please
feel free to try it out here: https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/

NOTES:
1) Please, Please, PLEASE avoid updating existing bug reports in the
test install, as that will send email to anyone cc'd on the
report...and possibly cause some confusion.
2) Things that are okay to do: Creating new bug reports and editing
them, Querying, Creating graphs, etc..

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me on email or in
#libreoffice-qa


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