[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

for the upcoming new version 4.1.2, the RC3 most of the builds are now
available on pre-releases (Windows build still uploading, Mac still missing)
This is an unscheduled RC, due to regressions found by QA (thanks to
all testers)
Grab the builds from here here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical*
bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate  them into the
release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to
populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect
feedback.

NOTE: This build is in a release configuration and _will_ replace your
existing LibreOffice install on Windows.

The list of fixed bugs relative to 4.1.2RC2 is here:

 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-1-2-release-4.1.2.3.log

So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated  -
and validation that those bugs are really fixed.

Thanks a lot for your help,
Christian
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Pedro]

Major regression found in 4.1.2.3 (I haven't teste 4.1.2.1 or 4.1.2.2 but it
is a regression from 4.1.1.2)

Reported here
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70029



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[V Stuart Foote]

@Pedro,

I could not confirm issue.  Have marked it Resolved WFM.

Please revisit your test case, and provide better details on producing the
data loss if you feel the issue is valid.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Pedro]

I have replied in Bugzilla.

It is not only Find and Replace that it is ruined in 4.1.2.3 and 4.0.6.1

The simple Find function is also ruined. Searching for the word "Santos" in
an extensive report also tagged the word "Matos"...

This is a MAJOR bug. Please don't dismiss it as a personal whim.

Even if this is a Windows XP bug only it is still a MAJOR lost in function.

And it is a REGRESSION for BOTH branches.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[V Stuart Foote]

@Pedro,

The Find & Replace --> Replace All  of your  fdo#70029
   appears to be working
correctly for both Windows XP and Windows 7.

Not dismissing your issues as personal whim, just not seeing the behavior. 
So again, you need to provide additional test case and samples for anyone
else to be able to reproduce.

If it makes you more comfortable we can change fdo#70029 to NEEDINFO

The  +F find box also seems to be working correctly for simple search,
both XP and Windows 7.  You may need to post up your "extensive report" as a
sample document.   But probably should be an issue of its own.

Regards,

Stuart





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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Pedro]

@Stuart

I already figured the problem was that the "Similarity" option was checked
(by mistake) from a previous session. 

This shows that having advanced options hidden doesn't seem to be a good
idea from a UX point of vue...

Sorry for the noise.

Best regards,
Pedro




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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Pedro]

Web Page Wizard doesn't work under Windows XP using version 4.1.2.3 both
installed and portable.

It does work on LO 4.0.5 so it seems to be a regression.

It doesn't work on LO 4.2.0 Alpha (dated 2031-10-04 from TB 39) so the bug
seems to be in the Master branch as well.

Can anyone provide more feedback before I submit this to Bugzilla?

Thanks,
Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Thomas Hackert]

Hello Pedro, *,
On Samstag, 5. Oktober 2013 15:58 Pedro wrote:
> Web Page Wizard doesn't work under Windows XP using version
> 4.1.2.3 both installed and portable.

what do you mean with "doesn't work"? It does not start, you cannot 
use the wizard, or something completely different?

> It does work on LO 4.0.5 so it seems to be a regression.

I have tested it with LO Version 4.0.6.1 (Build ID: 
7168152d13aa529ba3718c9ae3700216a574137) as well as Version: 4.1.2.3
Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38 and Germanphone 
lang- as well as helppack under Debian Testing. I can use the 
assistent up to the last step (have not tested it further though ... 
:( ) without any problem ... ;)

> It doesn't work on LO 4.2.0 Alpha (dated 2031-10-04 from TB 39) so
> the bug seems to be in the Master branch as well.

There are no daily builds for Debian since last December, so I am 
not able to test it, sorry ... :(

> Can anyone provide more feedback before I submit this to Bugzilla?

It would be nice, if you could give us some more info ... ;) I am 
not sure, what exactly your problem is ... :(
Sorry for the inconvenience
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Pedro]

Hi Thomas

Thank you for your fast answer and for testing.


Thomas Hackert wrote
>> Web Page Wizard doesn't work under Windows XP using version
>> 4.1.2.3 both installed and portable.
> 
> what do you mean with "doesn't work"? It does not start, you cannot 
> use the wizard, or something completely different?

8

Nothing happens when I click on File > Wizards >Web Page. All other Wizards
start and work as expected.


Thomas Hackert wrote
> I have tested it with LO Version 4.0.6.1 (Build ID: 
> 7168152d13aa529ba3718c9ae3700216a574137) as well as Version: 4.1.2.3
> Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38 and Germanphone 
> lang- as well as helppack under Debian Testing. I can use the 
> assistent up to the last step (have not tested it further though ... 
> :( ) without any problem ... ;)

Excellent. So this seems to be a Windows only bug.


Thomas Hackert wrote
>> It doesn't work on LO 4.2.0 Alpha (dated 2031-10-04 from TB 39) so
>> the bug seems to be in the Master branch as well.
> 
> There are no daily builds for Debian since last December, so I am 
> not able to test it, sorry ... :(

Unfortunately TDF's position is "there is no "official" guarantee that daily
builds for some specific platform and configuration will continuously be
built and uploaded"

Which is a curious position, since some TDF members ask the QA team members
to do early testing on the Master branch... Maybe the QA team members
compile their own binaries...


Thomas Hackert wrote
> It would be nice, if you could give us some more info ... ;) I am 
> not sure, what exactly your problem is ... :(
> Sorry for the inconvenience

I hope the info provided now is better. Sorry for not making it clearer on
the first post ;)

Best regards,
Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Thomas Hackert]

Hello Pedro, *,
On Samstag, 5. Oktober 2013 17:43 Pedro wrote:
> Thank you for your fast answer and for testing.

you are welcome :)

> Thomas Hackert wrote
>>> Web Page Wizard doesn't work under Windows XP using version
>>> 4.1.2.3 both installed and portable.
>> 
>> what do you mean with "doesn't work"? It does not start, you
>> cannot use the wizard, or something completely different?
> 
> 8

? Should it be something like "8)" ;?

> Nothing happens when I click on File > Wizards >Web Page. All
> other Wizards start and work as expected.

O.K.

> Thomas Hackert wrote
>> I have tested it with LO Version 4.0.6.1 (Build ID:
>> 7168152d13aa529ba3718c9ae3700216a574137) as well as Version:
>> 4.1.2.3 Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38 and
>> Germanphone lang- as well as helppack under Debian Testing. I can
>> use the assistent up to the last step (have not tested it further
>> though ...
>> :( ) without any problem ... ;)
> 
> Excellent. So this seems to be a Windows only bug.

Maybe ... ;) Or someone with a Mac and/or RPM-based distribution 
and/or a 32 bit system can confirm it as well.

> Thomas Hackert wrote
>>> It doesn't work on LO 4.2.0 Alpha (dated 2031-10-04 from TB 39)
>>> so the bug seems to be in the Master branch as well.
>> 
>> There are no daily builds for Debian since last December, so I am
>> not able to test it, sorry ... :(
> 
> Unfortunately TDF's position is "there is no "official" guarantee
> that daily builds for some specific platform and configuration
> will continuously be built and uploaded"

:(

> Which is a curious position, since some TDF members ask the QA
> team members to do early testing on the Master branch... Maybe the
> QA team members compile their own binaries...

Or TDF expect its members to build their own builts ... ;)

> Thomas Hackert wrote
>> It would be nice, if you could give us some more info ... ;) I am
>> not sure, what exactly your problem is ... :(
>> Sorry for the inconvenience
> 
> I hope the info provided now is better. Sorry for not making it
> clearer on the first post ;)

Yes, thank you very much :)
Have a nice evening
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[bjoern]

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 08:43:46AM -0700, Pedro wrote:
> Unfortunately TDF's position is "there is no "official" guarantee that daily
> builds for some specific platform and configuration will continuously be
> built and uploaded"
> 
> Which is a curious position, ...

Not at all, since the builds themselves are provided by volunteers. Of course,
you are invited to maintain a tinderbox providing daily builds in a more
reliable fashion (or help out with one of the existing ones). Actually that
would be most welcome!

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Pedro]

Hi Björn


Bjoern Michaelsen wrote
> Not at all, since the builds themselves are provided by volunteers. Of
> course,
> you are invited to maintain a tinderbox providing daily builds in a more
> reliable fashion (or help out with one of the existing ones). Actually
> that
> would be most welcome!

As you know, I'm not a developer. Getting a tinderbox to work in a "more
reliable fashion" requires developer knowledge. I think it would make more
sense to invite one the project's developers (I'm sure that out of the
hundreds of LO developers there must be some who are not swamped with work
and would gladly take this task...)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[bjoern]

Hi,

On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 06:22:54AM -0700, Pedro wrote:
> As you know, I'm not a developer. Getting a tinderbox to work in a "more
> reliable fashion" requires developer knowledge.

No, getting a tinderbox to build does not require any voodoo skills -- and
skills can be learned and sharpened.

> I think it would make more sense to invite one the project's developers (I'm
> sure that out of the hundreds of LO developers there must be some who are not
> swamped with work and would gladly take this task...)

If you think we always have some developers lazily hanging out in a corner
watching TV and wondering what to do next, you are very badly mistaken.
Everyone has more than enough on his todo-list.

That said, this is important, but we still need ressources or volunteers for it
(and everyone having to do all the after conference catch up isnt helping).

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[bjoern]

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 02:20:49PM +0200, bjoern wrote:
> Not at all, since the builds themselves are provided by volunteers. Of course,
> you are invited to maintain a tinderbox providing daily builds in a more
> reliable fashion (or help out with one of the existing ones). Actually that
> would be most welcome!

FWIW, there are now current builds by Win-x86_9-Voreppe on

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-4-1/

and a reasonably recent bibisect at

 http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/

and my machine is also currently building a additional bibisect, just to be
safe.

For the rest, see: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-minutes-of-ESC-call-td4077534.html

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Pedro]

Hi Björn

Thank you for the update.


Bjoern Michaelsen wrote
> FWIW, there are now current builds by Win-x86_9-Voreppe on
> 
>  http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-4-1/
> 
> and a reasonably recent bibisect at
> 
>  http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/
> 
> and my machine is also currently building a additional bibisect, just to
> be
> safe.
> 
> For the rest, see:
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-minutes-of-ESC-call-td4077534.html

The discussion referred to Master builds. Not only for Windows but according
to Thomas also for Debian.
I know that human resources are scarce and valuable (it just find it amusing
when PR starts bragging about the "hundreds" of devs) but if testing ahead
is important then TDF needs to make sure that the tinderboxes (at least
those owned by TDF) keep sharing valid binaries ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[bjoern]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 05:40:19PM -0700, Pedro wrote:
> The discussion referred to Master builds. Not only for Windows but according
> to Thomas also for Debian.

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@39/
and bibisect is daily master and works on debian.

As for the tone of your mail: Of course, this project has hundreds of
developers. The more respectful you are to them and their work, the more likely
they are to genuinely care about you quick and fast when you have trouble.

Best,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

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Good morning Bjoern, *,
On Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013 08:57 bjoern wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 05:40:19PM -0700, Pedro wrote:
>> The discussion referred to Master builds. Not only for Windows
>> but according to Thomas also for Debian.
> 
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@39/
> and bibisect is daily master and works on debian.

maybe I misunderstand you here, but how should I use MSI files under 
Debian ;? Native? Or did I miss them?
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[bjoern]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 09:10:11AM +0200, Thomas Hackert wrote:
> maybe I misunderstand you here, but how should I use MSI files under 
> Debian ;? Native? Or did I miss them?

see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bibisect

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

[Thomas Hackert]

Hello Bjoern, *,
On Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013 09:21 bjoern wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 09:10:11AM +0200, Thomas Hackert wrote:
>> maybe I misunderstand you here, but how should I use MSI files
>> under Debian ;? Native? Or did I miss them?
> 
> see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bibisect

oh, I know, that there is a wiki page about Bibisect, but Pedro was 
talking about missing daily builds for Win as well as Debian ... ;)
Does it mean, that I should use the Bibisect instruction to get my 
daily build ;?

I am still not sure, why you mentioned 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@39/ in your last mail 
... :(

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