Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-03-02 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Sophie, all,


On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:29:32AM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 So, I'm ready to work on this, but as underlined by Yifan, it would
 be interesting for us to keep also our Litmus system up to date and
 synchronized because it's used under several OS and languages so it
 has a real interest here.
 The ability of syncing the 2 test bases would be really great as it
 would avoid duplicating the work for the maintainers. Anyway, I'm
 here to help, so don't hesitate to tell me what to do :-)

Syncing the testbases will be nifty, but for now we should concentrate on
getting the existing testcases into checkbox. Beta2 is on 2012-03-29(*) and we
should make sure that we have as much tests in there as possible by then as
there will be widely distibuted calls for testing like this one:

http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/03/opportunity-manual-application-testing.html

then and we really should not miss that opportunity. We can discuss
syncronizing testcase bases etc. later. The time window is between 2012-03-29
and 2012-04-26 should get what ever testing we can out of that.  A we can
discuss creating a nifty sync solution after that as we will have some time to
the Libreoffice 3.6 and Ubuntu p+1 releases.

So: just getting the tests over to checkbox now (manually or by whatever means)
should have priority.

Do we agree there?

Best,

Bjoern


(*) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04-beta-2
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-03-02 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Bjoern, all,

I've added Nicholas in copy of this mail
On 02/03/2012 13:50, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:

Hi Sophie, all,


On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:29:32AM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote:

So, I'm ready to work on this, but as underlined by Yifan, it would
be interesting for us to keep also our Litmus system up to date and
synchronized because it's used under several OS and languages so it
has a real interest here.
The ability of syncing the 2 test bases would be really great as it
would avoid duplicating the work for the maintainers. Anyway, I'm
here to help, so don't hesitate to tell me what to do :-)


Syncing the testbases will be nifty, but for now we should concentrate on
getting the existing testcases into checkbox. Beta2 is on 2012-03-29(*) and we
should make sure that we have as much tests in there as possible by then as
there will be widely distibuted calls for testing like this one:

http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/03/opportunity-manual-application-testing.html

then and we really should not miss that opportunity. We can discuss
syncronizing testcase bases etc. later. The time window is between 2012-03-29
and 2012-04-26 should get what ever testing we can out of that.  A we can
discuss creating a nifty sync solution after that as we will have some time to
the Libreoffice 3.6 and Ubuntu p+1 releases.

So: just getting the tests over to checkbox now (manually or by whatever means)
should have priority.

Do we agree there?


ok, but I won't install ubuntu, setup an environment on launchpad and 
install bazaar (or do I have to? is it mandatory?). So a little help so 
that I don't spend all my week-end on this would be:

- is this link the good one for test formatting?
http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/CaseAndPlanGuidelines
- are the tests on Litmus good enough or should I write more?
- on this page, there is several tests for Ubuntu/OOo, Kubuntu/OOo, 
Applications/LibreOffice, etc. What is the one I choose


Thanks in advance,
Kind regards
Sophie


Best,

Bjoern


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-03-02 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Sophie,
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 02:33:25PM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 ok, but I won't install ubuntu, setup an environment on launchpad
 and install bazaar (or do I have to? is it mandatory?). So a little
 help so that I don't spend all my week-end on this would be:
 - is this link the good one for test formatting?
 http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/CaseAndPlanGuidelines
 - are the tests on Litmus good enough or should I write more?
 - on this page, there is several tests for Ubuntu/OOo, Kubuntu/OOo,
 Applications/LibreOffice, etc. What is the one I choose

I cant reach Nicholas right now, if there is no feedback by tommorrow, I will
investigate myself.

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-03-02 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
Hello! If your not able use bazaar feel free to email the ubuntu-qa list. And 
yes the wiki page you linked is a great format to do them in. If you can take a 
look at this page, 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation/Checkbox/Walkthrough it shows what 
format the tests eventually have to be in for checkbox to use them properly. 
Submitting a file to the mailing list in a similar format would be best. See 
the gedit tests for an example: 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/checkbox/checkbox-app-testing/view/head:/jobs/gedit.txt.in.

Does that help? You don't need to use lp if you don't want to, and submit tests 
in checkbox format if possible. You can submit by emailing the mailing list. 
Thanks,

Nicholas

Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote:

Hi Sophie,
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 02:33:25PM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 ok, but I won't install ubuntu, setup an environment on launchpad
 and install bazaar (or do I have to? is it mandatory?). So a little
 help so that I don't spend all my week-end on this would be:
 - is this link the good one for test formatting?
 http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/CaseAndPlanGuidelines
 - are the tests on Litmus good enough or should I write more?
 - on this page, there is several tests for Ubuntu/OOo, Kubuntu/OOo,
 Applications/LibreOffice, etc. What is the one I choose

I cant reach Nicholas right now, if there is no feedback by tommorrow, I will
investigate myself.

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-02-28 Thread Yifan Jiang
Hi Bjoern/fellows,

Thanks for the lovely news! I am CCing Rimas for his concern as well.

Hi Nicholas,

I am Yifan from libreoffice QA :) I just took a view of the Checkbox wikipage
quoted in your original mail and here are some related information available.
We have got a bunch of regression test cases specifically for managed in
Litmus test case management tool:

https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/

[details referring to wiki]
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Litmus

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

Meanwhile there are sample test cases description in Litmus can be found as:

https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/show_test.cgi?id=1302
https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/show_test.cgi?id=1067

From my understanding it seems possible to format selective test cases and
populate them to CheckBox. But the problem is the test cases are constantly
being updated/created/removed through libreoffice life cycle, there may be a
frustrating work to do not only for populating the cases to Checkbox but
maintaining 2 versions of test base (Litmus and Checkbox). So just wonder did
you experience similar situation or have any nice ideas for this (for example,
syncing 2 test bases)? Thanks again for the great news :)

Best wishes,
Yifan

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 Hi Sophie, Cor, QA-List
 
 please see:
 
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2012-February/003745.html
 
 this is an opportunity to get more structured manual testing done on
 LibreOffice. Could you have a look if you could help out coordinating this 
 with
 our own efforts to get LibreOffice tested even better?
 
 Best,
 
 Bjoern
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[Libreoffice-qa] Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-02-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Sophie, Cor, QA-List

please see:

 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2012-February/003745.html

this is an opportunity to get more structured manual testing done on
LibreOffice. Could you have a look if you could help out coordinating this with
our own efforts to get LibreOffice tested even better?

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-02-24 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi all,
On 24/02/2012 11:12, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:

Hi Sophie, Cor, QA-List

please see:

  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2012-February/003745.html

this is an opportunity to get more structured manual testing done on
LibreOffice. Could you have a look if you could help out coordinating this with
our own efforts to get LibreOffice tested even better?


Sorry, I realized I only answered to Bjoern, that was not intended. 
Although I don't spend much time on QA these last weeks (far less than I 
would like to), I'll have a look through the week end and give my 
feedback here. I'm not sure I'll have time to dedicate to this, but I'll 
try to find it if nobody jump in.


Kind regards
Sophie
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