Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:59:03 +0100 From: Andy Lawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? David Chien wrote: snip Diamond Mako, clearning out at outpost.com and tigerdirect.com for $99. 16MB, keyboard, grayscale LCD, word processing, spreadsheet, optional modem and Opera Internet web browser. One of the few devices smaller than a Libretto with very good web browser compatiblity with the majority of sites out there today, but even I'd just go Palm or Libretto instead (L50 goes for $200-300 on ebay, so why bother with a grayscale screen?). snip For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. Not sure if either of the reatailers David mentioned will ship internationally, but I'm almost tempted to find out - however as I've already got a Libretto and a Palm I can't really justify another little toy at the moment. ...Andy ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:14:40 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 02:10:43AM -0700, Andy Lawn wrote: For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. Not sure if either of the reatailers David mentioned will ship internationally, but I'm almost tempted to find out - outpost.com does -- I just ordered one, but they may be backordered. (And no wonder -- most other places are retailing at 2-3x that!) however as I've already got a Libretto and a Palm I can't really justify another little toy at the moment. You have to justify toys? 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Diamond/Psion
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:51:25 + From: David Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. I'd expect all of the Psion stuff to be _really_ cheap now, after their recent news...[1] Besides, a lib is much nicer[2] Dave [1] Apologies for off-topicness. [2] Better? ;) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Diamond/Psion
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:35:03 -0400 From: Eiren K. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion I can't find the original post. Does someone have a source for a Diamond Mako for $99?!? -e. - Original Message - From: David Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:51:25 + From: David Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. I'd expect all of the Psion stuff to be _really_ cheap now, after their recent news...[1] Besides, a lib is much nicer[2] Dave [1] Apologies for off-topicness. [2] Better? ;) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Diamond/Psion
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:05:30 -0400 From: Eiren K. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion Never mind. I found the original posts (different subject). -e. - Original Message - From: Eiren K. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:35:03 -0400 From: Eiren K. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion I can't find the original post. Does someone have a source for a Diamond Mako for $99?!? -e. - Original Message - From: David Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:51:25 + From: David Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. I'd expect all of the Psion stuff to be _really_ cheap now, after their recent news...[1] Besides, a lib is much nicer[2] Dave [1] Apologies for off-topicness. [2] Better? ;) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Diamond/Psion
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 22:21:29 +0800 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion Never mind. I found the original posts (different subject). Many apologies for that *grumbles about mailer* I forgot to put the old subject in there too.. Dave -- Åwªï¨Ï¥ÎHongKong.com¶l¥ó¨t²Î Thank you for using hongkong.com Email system ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Diamond/Psion
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:59:11 -0400 From: Ken Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion See http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=diamond+mako They have the unit for $99.95 and the 56K modem for $59.95 - just checked, they don't *say* they are out of stock... HTH, Ken Eiren K. Smith wrote: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:35:03 -0400 From: Eiren K. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Diamond/Psion I can't find the original post. Does someone have a source for a Diamond Mako for $99?!? -e. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
One for the linux types...
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:11:41 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: One for the linux types... Two things... Having just had a windows proggie roast my partition tables (to the extent that I've had to write code to write to the disk to make it fdiskable again - both windows and linux fdisks barfed on it!) I've just had to reinstall from scratch - still in progress. (1) I managed to get mandrake 8 installed by loading it with the disk on a desktop machine, and then letting HardDrake do it's stuff and unload most of the drivers, and playing with the X drivers to make it use the chips driver. It works! But the news is, on a CT50, even overclocked, don't bother. KDE2 and Konqueror are just too slow to be of practical use. Ah well, back to the drawing board... (2) So I put M7.1 back on, from the hard disk using a floppy to boot it so that I can get the text mode install, which is the only one that will run in the available memory. The snag now is that even though the psion gold card modem/network combo was in the slot, and was probed, the network install didn't find it. I know I had it working previously but I have no idea how I did it. Any offers? Cheers, Neil _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:32:18 -0400 From: David Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? What I was specifically noting in the design of the Toshiba handheld was the storage space that, using the 1GB microdrive, was approaching a practical and useful amount. I'm an old Zaurus fan myself, and no lover of Windows CE. Yet I use a CE handheld because I don't want to bother with tweaking various proprietary sync systems. For me, the instant on is the single biggest factor for CE or other handheld OS's: I just don't have time for a boot sequence on the road. So as handhelds approach laptop specs in terms of processor speed, RAM, and storage space, a successor to the Libretto will only be better by virtue of having instant on, even if I have to accept Windows CE as the price. (I'd sure like just a FEW slightly useful apps, though!) Alas, no proprietary device is likely to even have a chance unless it can demonstrate vast superiority in some area: portable information appliances are going to be appendages of some home-based unit, at least until wireless becomes a real force. My old Zaurus does almost as much as the Mako seems to, and while the Rex is a neat form factor, I can never get one to reliably sync (doubtless my incompetence), and the extremely limited ability to input data takes it out of contention as a useful device, for me. The ultimate goal is a pocketable widget with instant on, full and total duplication of any and all of my information and apps(or immediate access thereto), acceptable battery life (which is why I don't like color screens, at this point) and wireless full internet access. Someday, we can hope. Griffin David said: Not a Libretto successor, just another boring Windows CE palmtop. 1GB microdrives in a palmtop have already been done on the Palms. The Sharp Zaurus (Japanese version) provides far more features and functionality if you're to buy a japanese pda. In the USA, simply buy a Palm OS palmtop - they've taken up 80% of the market share, have more programs and support and accessories than any other platform, and can simply be considered the 'standard'. Too many dead WinCE palmtops from the past not used anymore to bother with any WinCE device. Beyond that? Diamond Mako, clearning out at outpost.com and tigerdirect.com for $99. 16MB, keyboard, grayscale LCD, word processing, spreadsheet, optional modem and Opera Internet web browser. One of the few devices smaller than a Libretto with very good web browser compatiblity with the majority of sites out there today, but even I'd just go Palm or Libretto instead (L50 goes for $200-300 on ebay, so why bother with a grayscale screen?). Xircom Rex. My REX Pro 3 runs happily. PCMCIA Type II card form factor, and you can download all of your appointments and addressses into this device. Much handier than a Palm for me since it has limited functionality on just the basics. (the Palm? Nothing but playing PocketChess all day ;) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:37:18 -0400 From: namsilat namsilat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:39:34 -0400 From: Brian Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? I use the REX 5000 with my Libretto and ofc laptop and sync with both Lotus Notes and Lotus Organizer. On my Libretto, I also have it sync to my Palm M100. I had some difficulty getting the sync coordinated but finally got it to work with contacts, to-dos and calendar when I eliminated catagories. Still working on the memo/notepad. The limitations of the REX really is not a problem since I cary the Libretto with my almost 100% of the time and keep it in hibernation mode. I use the Organizer and update all other units from it every business day. I keep the REX in my pocket for those times (lunch, etc.) when I have left the Libretto behind. I do agree the input ability is a bit tough but with time I've learned to use shortcuts to speed entry up. I'm not sure why I bother with the M100 except I bought it used for cheap money. It stays on my desk at the house. Original Message Follows From: David Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:35:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:32:18 -0400 From: David Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? What I was specifically noting in the design of the Toshiba handheld was the storage space that, using the 1GB microdrive, was approaching a practical and useful amount. I'm an old Zaurus fan myself, and no lover of Windows CE. Yet I use a CE handheld because I don't want to bother with tweaking various proprietary sync systems. For me, the instant on is the single biggest factor for CE or other handheld OS's: I just don't have time for a boot sequence on the road. So as handhelds approach laptop specs in terms of processor speed, RAM, and storage space, a successor to the Libretto will only be better by virtue of having instant on, even if I have to accept Windows CE as the price. (I'd sure like just a FEW slightly useful apps, though!) Alas, no proprietary device is likely to even have a chance unless it can demonstrate vast superiority in some area: portable information appliances are going to be appendages of some home-based unit, at least until wireless becomes a real force. My old Zaurus does almost as much as the Mako seems to, and while the Rex is a neat form factor, I can never get one to reliably sync (doubtless my incompetence), and the extremely limited ability to input data takes it out of contention as a useful device, for me. The ultimate goal is a pocketable widget with instant on, full and total duplication of any and all of my information and apps(or immediate access thereto), acceptable battery life (which is why I don't like color screens, at this point) and wireless full internet access. Someday, we can hope. Griffin David said: Not a Libretto successor, just another boring Windows CE palmtop. 1GB microdrives in a palmtop have already been done on the Palms. The Sharp Zaurus (Japanese version) provides far more features and functionality if you're to buy a japanese pda. In the USA, simply buy a Palm OS palmtop - they've taken up 80% of the market share, have more programs and support and accessories than any other platform, and can simply be considered the 'standard'. Too many dead WinCE palmtops from the past not used anymore to bother with any WinCE device. Beyond that? Diamond Mako, clearning out at outpost.com and tigerdirect.com for $99. 16MB, keyboard, grayscale LCD, word processing, spreadsheet, optional modem and Opera Internet web browser. One of the few devices smaller than a Libretto with very good web browser compatiblity with the majority of sites out there today, but even I'd just go Palm or Libretto instead (L50 goes for $200-300 on ebay, so why bother with a grayscale screen?). Xircom Rex. My REX Pro 3 runs happily. PCMCIA Type II card form factor, and you can download all of your appointments and addressses into this device. Much handier than a Palm for me since it has limited functionality on just the basics. (the Palm? Nothing but playing PocketChess all day ;) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives
Any other Toshiba batteries with the right size cells?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:00:45 -0700 From: Tom Stangl, VFAQman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any other Toshiba batteries with the right size cells? Does anyone else know of any Toshiba LI batteries with cells the right size? I won an auction on Ebay for a 2503U, they sent me a 2505U by mistake - it's rated at 2500mAh, and the case looks to be about 1/8 longer than the 2503U, so I don't want to risk ripping it apart to find out the cells are barely too long (the pack registers 11.8V uncharged, so I think the cells are OK, but I can't exactly return it in pieces ;-)). I'm kind of hoping one of the brick style Toshiba L-Ion packs has cells the right size, as some are sometimes cheap on Ebay or at local stores. -- Tom Stangl ***http://www.vfaq.com/ ***DSM Visual FAQ home ***http://ba.dsm.org/ ***SF Bay Area DSMs ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
