[LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!

2002-02-10 Thread Raymond

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:55:22 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Experiences trying to get Linux onto this @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!

Hi all!


OK again for your amusement and bemusement here are some things I noticed whilst 
trying to get Red Hat Linux 6.2 working on my L50 with a 20 gig hard drive. If anyone 
wants to comment, correct or shed additional light on any of these, please do! (oh and 
ya I know there are other linux distros, I chose RH6.2 for compatibility with work so 
THAT argument is no longer valid ;-).


1: Forget what anyone else says, go get yourself a HDD converter and put the hard 
drive into a big computer. If anything it'll mean Linux installs in 10 minutes and not 
2 hours. Make sure KUDZU loads when you first reboot after the hard drive is put into 
the libby and make sure you enable the SVGA X server.


2: Install EZ-Bios (I'm using 9.09W) and whatever you do DO NOT LET YOUR COMPUTER BOOT 
OFF THE FLOPPY DISKETTE! If you spend half the time booting off floppy diskette (ie. 
EZ-Bios doesn't load) and half the time booting off the hard drive (so EZ-Bios loads) 
you end up with 1.5 copies of the partition table (as in you end up with some programs 
such as Partition Magic seeing one version of your partition table, programs such as 
Linux FDISK seeing a totally different version and some programs such as NT Disk Admin 
or Norton Ghost not being able to make their minds up and deciding the entire thing is 
corrupt). Of course, if you need to boot off the floppy diskette, hold down CTRL so 
EZ-Bios still loads then tell it to use A: to get the boot stuff.


3: Watch PowerQuest Partition Magic 6 (and PowerQuest DriveImage for that matter) like 
a hawk and preferrably stick to DOS and Linux FDISK ... for some silly reason, when I 
created 3 primaries (a FAT16, an EXT2 and a Linux Swap in that order), Linux reconed 
the FAT16 was HDA1, the Linux Swap was HDA2 and the EXT2 was HDA3! ... when I removed 
everything and did the same thing under Linux FDISK, Partition Magic saw no difference 
but the partition scheme according to Linux was now the right way round. Plus 
Partition Magic seems to contribute to problem 2 above anyway.


4: On the subject of partitioning, if you have EZ-Bios, WHATEVER YOU DO, let EZ-Bios 
create all those FAT16 partitions for you. Then, when you next boot, let EZ-Bios load 
then press CTRL and boot off a DOS floppy with FDISK. Delete all the partitions EXCEPT 
THE FIRST. NEVER DELETE THE FIRST, for some reason EZ-Bios puts some special stuff 
there. You can ghost over it, you can install Windows or Linux over it but don't 
delete it. Also, for some reason if you remove it then use Linux FDISK, EZ-Bios gets 
all confused. The advice that the fdisk MAN page gives is perhaps wise ... use DOS 
FDISK to create the DOS FAT16 and FAT32 partitions and use Linux fdisk (or cfdisk once 
you're installed) to do the Linux partitions. I ended up doing things in this order.
   i. Installed EZ-Bios (after nuking the drive, FDISKING it as a full drive, doing a 
full format then nuking it again). Chose to create a million and one FAT16 partitions.
  ii. Rebooted, went back into EZ-Bios setup and enabled EZ-Bios. For some reason, if 
you install EZ-Bios and it detects that your computer can handle the large hard drive, 
it doesn't fully install (remember, I have the hard drive in my desktop to do this) 
but we want EZ-Bios loaded because the HDD will move to the laptop and if you start 
partitioning without EZ-Bios loaded things screw up.
 iii. Rebooted, held down CTRL, put in a DOS boot disk with FDISK and Ghost, pressed A 
to boot off the FDD then used FDISK to remove all partitions (including the extended 
partition) except for the first primary partition.
  iv. Rebooted same way but this time loaded Ghost to restore Win95 to the first 
primary partition (WITHOUT deleting it first).
   v. Rebooted same way but this time with a Linux Install boot disk. Started the 
Linux install process and put the RH6.2 CD in.
  vi. Did a custom install and chose to use FDISK because Disk Druid doesn't let you 
say what you want as primary and what you want as extended. Created a 2 gig primary 
for / and a 100 meg primary for swap. Didn't create any extended partitions.
 vii. Finished the install as normal but told the install to write Lilo to /dev/hda2 
and not the MBR. Created a boot diskette so I could actually boot Linux before I did 
the NTLDR thing (see below). Rebooted with the ctrl thing then put that boot diskette 
in just to make sure the install was fine. Especially I looked to make sure the Linux 
boot process could see that I was using EZ-Bios (just after it detects the hard drives 
it does a partition check, if it detects EZ-Bios it'll show hda: [EZD] [remap 0-1] 
[2432/255/63] hda1 hda2 )
viii. Shut down, rebooted, did the CTRL thing, booted with the DOS boot disk again 
then used FDISK to create the extended partition then all the virtual drives. I left 
space 

Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!

2002-02-10 Thread neil barnes

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:41:09
From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!


snip ray's experiences

One question Ray:

How much space are you using for MS partitions? If it's less than 8G in 
total, you're probably better off *without* ezdrive, just keep everything in 
the first 8G.

Perhaps you could post your partition table?

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Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

2002-02-10 Thread Raymond

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:30:21 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this
  @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!

At 02:44 AM 10/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:41:09
From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!


snip ray's experiences

One question Ray:

How much space are you using for MS partitions? If it's less than 8G in total, you're 
probably better off *without* ezdrive, just keep everything in the first 8G.

Perhaps you could post your partition table?

Here it is, this is from memory so the figures might not add up exactly ...

/dev/hda1 2 gig FAT16 for Win95
/dev/hda2 2 gig EXT2 for Linux
/dev/hda3 100 meg Linux Swap
/dev/hda4 extended partition for rest of disk
 /dev/hda5 1.8 gig FAT16 for WinNT (I'll convert to NTFS later)
 /dev/hda6 1.8 gig FAT16 for backup images (accessible in the event EZ-Bios dies)
 blank space for hibernation
 /dev/hda7 6.6 gig FAT32 general data area for Win95
 /dev/hda8 2 gig FAT16 common data partition for both NT and 95
 /dev/hda9 2 gig FAT16 common data partition for both NT and 95



Of course, now my next problem is I can't for the life of me get this blasted PCMCIA 
card services thing working under Linux!!! Anyone got any ideas or any pointers? (yes 
I know of pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net, I was wondering if someone knew where the ready 
made RPM's were as I'm not too crash-hot compiling this sorta stuff myself).



- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

2002-02-10 Thread Adrian Ho

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:34:35 +0800
From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 04:34:57AM -0800, Raymond wrote:
 Of course, now my next problem is I can't for the life of me get this
 blasted PCMCIA card services thing working under Linux!!! Anyone got
 any ideas or any pointers? (yes I know of pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net,
 I was wondering if someone knew where the ready made RPM's were as
 I'm not too crash-hot compiling this sorta stuff myself).

Search google for pcmcia-cs redhat 6.2.  The first page alone has
pointers to three sites (MIT, elug.org and a SunSITE) to the necessary.

Come to think of it, it should've been on your Red Hat CD (the
kernel-pcmcia-cs RPM).

- Adrian




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[LIB] RE: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest #1590

2002-02-10 Thread Karen L. Comer

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:53:38 -0500
From: Karen L. Comer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest #1590

From: Eugene Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GPS-my notes

Has anyone used clonecd or any of the pseudo cd
programs on the Libby?  I do not have experience with these except for
glowing reviews from friends.

I use Virtual CD on my Lib and I have never had any problems except when I
use AutoRoute Europe...which is fully installed and doesn't NEED the CD...I
have to disable Virtual Drive when I use this.  I also use Virtual Drive on
my laptop at work.   I wouldn't want to be without it.




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[LIB] Newbie needs help please!

2002-02-10 Thread T i m

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:15:23 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie needs help please!

Hi Librettoizers / Librettoists .. ?  ;-)

I enjoy motorcycle / camping in the UK (so far) and to help me around I
use a Garmin GPS III+ (Global Positioning System .. satellites and
stuff).

To program a journey path (a 'route' in GPS terms) I currently use a
Garmin program called MapSource. This runs on any W95/98/NT4, 16M Ram,
Min 20M HD space and 256 colour display style PC and connects to the GPS
unit via a std Serial port. It doesn't need 'speed' as such but when you
scroll / re-size a map it has to do quite a bit of work.

Also, you can download higher detail maps from the PC to the GPS if
needed but the GPS will only hold a small(ish) area as it only has 1.4M
of internal memory?

Now, when we head off we normally know where our first destination is so
we can plot the route on our home PC and all is fine. The problem starts
when we want to go from the first campsite to the second and so on. It
might be outside the fine detail map area and plotting a route on the
GPS itself is quite awkward.

Garmin now do a GPS V (version 5) but I'm quite happy with my III+  if I
could find a portable 'real' PC to interface with it?   Enter the
Libretto ! ;-)

So, I'm looking for a supplier of one in the UK, but would like some
advice / guidance re:

1) What model would be most suitable (and why .. eg any Models to
avoid?)

2) Where would be the best place to buy one? (I have browsed the
auctions on eBay, Yahoo, QXL etc but the prices / options vary wildly)

3) What sort of money should I be expected to pay and what accessories
are 'essential' .

I have been playing with hardware / electronics and std PC's for years
but have little experience with laptops (I do have a T2150CDS if that
counts!) so I need your help (please).

Anyone got something that would suit they are looking to sell?

All the best and thanks for your time in any case ..

T i m (in Nth London)


p.s. Will the 'accessories' (docking stations / batteries etc)  for say
the 50CT also fit the 100CT ... ?




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Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

2002-02-10 Thread Adrian Ho

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:09:26 +0800
From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 12:44:57PM -0800, Clarence wrote:
 the pcmcia cardservices takes its config info from the kernel that 
 you are currently running. Even if you install the rpm, you still 
 have to compile the source.

That's only if you're using a pcmcia-cs RPM that's not specifically for
your distro, or you're no longer using the kernel that was packaged with
your distro.  Otherwise, something's seriously wrong.

- Adrian




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[LIB] Red Hat Linux on the L50

2002-02-10 Thread Raymond

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:20:50 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat Linux on the L50

OK I know this has been covered before but for some reason, I can't find any ACTIVE 
servers from which I can download the patch to activate the floppy diskette drive ... 
I've got the PCMCIA slots 'working' now (insomuch as they can detect whats plugged 
into them) but the fdd keeps giving me 'unrecognised block device' errors. The links I 
can find on the net all seem to point to 
ftp://ftp.rp.csiro.au/pub/people/dbateman/flash/ or 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/kernel/pcmcia/contrib/ , both of which seem to be 
dead. Anyone know of any other place where I can grab it from? I'm running Red Hat 
6.2, kernel 2.2.14-5.0.

Also, I'm probably looking in the wrong places but I'm having one hellava time trying 
to figure out how to get Linux to detect my PCMCIA network card (a Bromax iPort 10/100 
NIC, NE2000 compatible) and how to configure it appropriately for networking. Can 
anyone point me in the right direction? I've only ever set up networking/NICs at 
install time but I installed this HDD in another box (Kudzu was kind enough to remove 
all the stuff that my other box had but the libby doesn't but it doesn't seem to want 
to install any of the new stuff). 


On the flip side, it turns out X configuration and getting sound working were heaps 
easier than I thought ... Xconfigurator seems to work like a charm for once!


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

2002-02-10 Thread neil barnes

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:13:50
From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this


Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:30:21 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this
   @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!

At 02:44 AM 10/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:41:09
 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this 
@!#@#$@#$@#$# thing!
 
 
 snip ray's experiences
 
 One question Ray:
 
 How much space are you using for MS partitions? If it's less than 8G in 
total, you're probably better off *without* ezdrive, just keep everything 
in the first 8G.
 
 Perhaps you could post your partition table?

Here it is, this is from memory so the figures might not add up exactly ...

/dev/hda1 2 gig FAT16 for Win95
/dev/hda2 2 gig EXT2 for Linux
/dev/hda3 100 meg Linux Swap
/dev/hda4 extended partition for rest of disk
  /dev/hda5 1.8 gig FAT16 for WinNT (I'll convert to NTFS later)
  /dev/hda6 1.8 gig FAT16 for backup images (accessible in the event 
EZ-Bios dies)
  blank space for hibernation
  /dev/hda7 6.6 gig FAT32 general data area for Win95
  /dev/hda8 2 gig FAT16 common data partition for both NT and 95
  /dev/hda9 2 gig FAT16 common data partition for both NT and 95

Ah ok, my linux partitions are more chopped up so I can rebuild without 
losing stuff, and all my windows stuff is in a single partition below 8G. 
Which I think is why scandisk tells me I have a boot sector glitch - it 
probably doesn't like partitions higher than the bios limit. But being MS, 
of course, it doesn't tell you what the fsult is!




Of course, now my next problem is I can't for the life of me get this 
blasted PCMCIA card services thing working under Linux!!! Anyone got any 
ideas or any pointers? (yes I know of pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net, I was 
wondering if someone knew where the ready made RPM's were as I'm not too 
crash-hot compiling this sorta stuff myself).

It's a doddle - make sure it's installed - there should be an RPM in the 
distribution. Then look for a file (I think) /etc/pcmcia.conf (it's buried 
in the readme) and it will have the single line

pcmcia=off

which you change to pcmcia=on

and then add another line

pcic=I82536 (i hope that's the right number - note capital I)

and reboot (or just start pcmcia) and you're off. Every network card and 
modem I've put in has been recognised no probs, anything else, you're on 
your own!

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Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

2002-02-10 Thread Raymond

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:17:02 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

At 04:14 PM 10/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:09:26 +0800
From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 12:44:57PM -0800, Clarence wrote:
 the pcmcia cardservices takes its config info from the kernel that 
 you are currently running. Even if you install the rpm, you still 
 have to compile the source.

That's only if you're using a pcmcia-cs RPM that's not specifically for
your distro, or you're no longer using the kernel that was packaged with
your distro.  Otherwise, something's seriously wrong.

Hmm ... something ELSE is seriously wrong ... looks like my mail server's dropped 
messages ... I never got Clarence's email!

How many messages were there between my initial post 'Experiences trying to ' and 
Adrian's post (including messages not in this thread)? All I got are 2 messages I 
posted (including the original one) and one by Neil regarding partitions ...


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

2002-02-10 Thread Skip Carter

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:47:48 -0800
From: Skip Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this


 On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 04:34:57AM -0800, Raymond wrote:
  Of course, now my next problem is I can't for the life of me get this
  blasted PCMCIA card services thing working under Linux!!! Anyone got
  any ideas or any pointers? (yes I know of pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net,
  I was wondering if someone knew where the ready made RPM's were as
  I'm not too crash-hot compiling this sorta stuff myself).

I found PCMCIA to work best when compiled for your kernel.  Its a pretty
straightforward process, I've never had any problems with it.  Also
the HOWTO for PCMCIA is full of useful hints on dealing with the types of
problems that can come up.  What is going wrong with your setup ?




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[LIB] W98 Suspend

2002-02-10 Thread RSchw74573

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:42:53 EST
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Subject: W98  Suspend

After a successful 20GB HDD and Win98se install in my 100CT (hold applause) I 
see that there is no Suspend option in the Start menu, as in W95.  How does 
one force hibernation in W98?

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Re: [LIB] W98 Suspend

2002-02-10 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 06:25:56 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] W98  Suspend

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:42:53 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

After a successful 20GB HDD and Win98se install in my 100CT (hold applause) 
I
see that there is no Suspend option in the Start menu, as in W95.  How 
does
one force hibernation in W98?

Lee


I've been told that Start  Shut Down  Suspend   ..is not supposed to put 
the system into hiberation after a certain timeout, but that's what's 
happened on all my W98 installations on my L50 and L70.

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Re: [LIB] CORRECTION: W98 Suspend

2002-02-10 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:05:34 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] CORRECTION: W98  Suspend

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 06:25:56 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:42:53 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

After a successful 20GB HDD and Win98se install in my 100CT (hold 
applause)
I see that there is no Suspend option in the Start menu, as in W95.  How 
does one force hibernation in W98?

Lee


I've been told that Start  Shut Down  Suspend   ..is not supposed to put 
the system into hiberation after a certain timeout, but that's what's 
happened on all my W98 installations on my L50 and L70.

Matt

My head hasn't been working right since I got hit by a car last summer 
that path should have read:

  Start  Shut Down  Standby

When I do that, the graphic of the Lib pops up, and you see the progress of 
writing the data being written in the image of the LCD.  I've confirmed this 
is in fact saving the data to disk... but for some reason, others have said 
they don't have this happen on a 50/70CT with W98.

Write back and tell me what happens for you.

Matt


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Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

2002-02-10 Thread T i m

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:31:48 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

Hi Clarence,

I'm not sure if this is too late but if not it might be of some use?

 http://www.uk.research.att.com/~qsf/libretto/

http://www.infotop.co.uk/technotes/Redhat_6_libretto_100ct.html

Could you tell me if the docking stations / batteries for the 50-70CD
will fit the 100-110CT's please?

All the best ..

T i m

Clarence wrote:

 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:34:05 -0500
 From: Clarence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this

 Of course, now my next problem is I can't for the life of me get
 this blasted PCMCIA card services thing working under Linux!!!
 Anyone got any ideas or any pointers? (yes I know of pcmcia-
 cs.sourceforge.net, I was wondering if someone knew where the
 ready made RPM's were as I'm not too crash-hot compiling this
 sorta stuff myself).
 

 the pcmcia cardservices takes its config info from the kernel that
 you are currently running. Even if you install the rpm, you still
 have to compile the source.

 ./configure
 make all
 make install

 at this point I rebooted to test if cardmgr started.

 in the usr/src/linux/pcmcia*/debug directory there is a set of
 utils. test_config and test_network., these help immensly.

 after compiling, you get the cardctl utility, whick lets you poll
 the identity and functionality of the cards you have installed.

 -Clarence



 
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