Re: [LIB] Unsubscribe
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 21:23:14 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Unsubscribe On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:41:21AM -0800, Matthew Hanson wrote: Gee I miss the entertaining days of Pres Waterman, and the whole unscribble issue! Well, time and technology have marched on, and I'm perfectly happy to help host this list on a decent mailing list manager (ezmlm) that can handle all of: unsubscribe unscribble unsubscribble get-me-off-this-friggin-list IGiveUp and whatever other variants hapless unsubscribblers try. 8-) - Adrian
Re: [LIB] Unsubscribe
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:50:23 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Unsubscribe On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:27:19PM -0800, Matthew Hanson wrote: What would be different with a ezmlm installation other than dealing with unscribblers? Well, it'll essentially behave the same way as the vast majority of mailing lists worldwide. Important differences between every other mailing list manager and SVList (IIRC the remailer software that runs this list) include: * proper reference preservation (which would let any email program worth its salt handle conversation threading) * a saner method of list administration (separate addresses for sub/unsub/etc., rather than a fragile subject-line-based mechanism) - Adrian
Re: [LIB] Re: TEST
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 02:33:49 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Re: TEST On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:07:37AM -0700, Lawrence Fieman wrote: Just seeing if this list is working on my computer. Seems to be working again, though SmartMax MailMax is now dumping out the entire subscriber list in a single Received header with each message. Not so Smart, that... At least we all know everyone else's email addys now. 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:59:02 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:55:23AM -0700, Raymond wrote: Uh oh ... mail loops anyone? Fortunately, Tracy's autoresponder seems to be well-behaved -- seems to only send one response/day. It could have been much, much worse... - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:06:33 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 01:30:26AM -0700, neil barnes wrote: From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fortunately, Tracy's autoresponder seems to be well-behaved -- seems to only send one response/day. It could have been much, much worse... True - but if it were well behaved, it would only send one response per incoming reply address... We have different definitions of well-behaved, then. Different strokes, etc. Once per message is right out, though, and I'm thinking it's only a matter of time before one of /those/ hits this list. Feel the power of the dark side of Reply-To-List. 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:03:08 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 06:27:08AM -0700, neil barnes wrote: Be careful what you wish for :) Having lived through /three/ of them (including a digest feedback-loop, which was indescribably horrible), I wouldn't /wish/ for one -- not even on my worst enemy. It's happened before here, IIRC. Really? I seem to recall something about learning from history instead of repeating it, but let's not go there -- yet. 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:58:47 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Tracy LAM/CAI/NYC/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR is out of the On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 06:41:47AM -0700, Raymond wrote: Of course, someone else posed the hypothetical that if someone on the digest did the same thing and they put the entire digest in the reply, then we'd all be in trouble ... hehe Funny you should mention that. I actually /did/ witness this once, where the digest list was set to Reply-To-Main-List. (Fortunately, I ran my own MTA and was at my desk at the time, so it didn't trouble me much.) The email screams of desperate subscribers were highly memorable, mainly because they were mostly along the lines of GET ME OFF THIS %^$#^%$^@ LIST! and SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!, and often quoting the entire (quoted-to-the-nth-power) digest to boot. Strangely though, I'm hard-pressed to recall exactly which list it was. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:17:02 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 12:59:02AM -0700, Christian Gennerat wrote: Now I am with Mandrake 8.0 base and ext3fs ~ uname -a Linux bcv66vbb. 2.4.17 #3 mer mar 27 09:57:59 UTC 2002 i586 unknown ~ ls -la /home total 32936 drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 f?v 7 20:41 . drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 mar 26 10:58 .. -rw---1 root root 33554432 jan 28 17:53 .journal In each partition there is a big file that I can't remove The one you listed above? That's the ext3 journal inode -- if you remove it, interesting (and potentially fatal) things could happen to your filesystem. That's why its immutable attribute is set. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:34:35 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 04:34:57AM -0800, Raymond wrote: Of course, now my next problem is I can't for the life of me get this blasted PCMCIA card services thing working under Linux!!! Anyone got any ideas or any pointers? (yes I know of pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net, I was wondering if someone knew where the ready made RPM's were as I'm not too crash-hot compiling this sorta stuff myself). Search google for pcmcia-cs redhat 6.2. The first page alone has pointers to three sites (MIT, elug.org and a SunSITE) to the necessary. Come to think of it, it should've been on your Red Hat CD (the kernel-pcmcia-cs RPM). - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:09:26 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Experiences trying to get Linux onto this On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 12:44:57PM -0800, Clarence wrote: the pcmcia cardservices takes its config info from the kernel that you are currently running. Even if you install the rpm, you still have to compile the source. That's only if you're using a pcmcia-cs RPM that's not specifically for your distro, or you're no longer using the kernel that was packaged with your distro. Otherwise, something's seriously wrong. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Linux on Lib70
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:20:40 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Linux on Lib70 On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:39:58AM -0800, Matthew Hanson wrote: I'll refrain from wondering too loudly what the process of mount it as a loopback device' is. Well, you sure wondered loud enough. 8-) As root: # mount -o loop whatever.iso /mnt/disk (You should not have to specify the mount type. If you do, odds are your ISO is corrupted.) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Win98 Toshiba drivers on 20GB HDD setup et al
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:20:16 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Win98 Toshiba drivers on 20GB HDD setup et al On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 01:28:26AM -0800, neil barnes wrote: Of course, you could go to www.linuxfromscratch.com and roll your own... You'd need a pretty fast PC (300MHz), though, else building takes forever. I recompiled the kernel once on my stock L50. Took over a day, it did. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Out of Office AutoReply: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:12:57 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Out of Office AutoReply: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 06:33:04PM -0800, Raymond wrote: Hmm ... mail loops anyone? ;-) More like perfect (mail) storms. The 200MB inboxes I mentioned some months back weren't hypothetical. Actually, if Tom's autoresponder had quoted the entire digest back, as did happen in a couple of the abovementioned storms, all our inboxes could be stuffed to the gills in 5 mins. Nasty. Anyways, this subject has been beaten to death before. Time to let it rest...again. 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Out of Office AutoReply: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:41:31 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Out of Office AutoReply: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 03:08:05AM -0800, Raymond wrote: Actually, if Tom's autoresponder had quoted the entire digest back, as did happen in a couple of the abovementioned storms, all our inboxes could be stuffed to the gills in 5 mins. Nasty. Umm ... I fail to see how THAT could happen given the digest only goes out ever X days ... Not sure about this list, but most list digests also trigger after X KBs are received. This is especially useful on busy lists; nobody appreciates having to wade through multi-MB multi-thousand message digests every few days. So the autoresponse I mentioned would be large enough to warrant another digest (after all, it /contains/ a digest). Repeat ad nauseum, or till mail spool overflows, or till mailing list or autoresponding server dies, whichever comes first. it'd be interesting though if he subscribed to the standard list and his autoresponder ended up responding to its own autoresponses ... It would take somewhat longer. The digest cascade is more immediate, and far more lethal. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Out of Office AutoReply: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:46:21 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Out of Office AutoReply: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 01:38:04AM -0800, Raymond wrote: Uh oh don't tell me we'll be getting one of these for every message that hits the list No, just one per digest (if I read the subject line correctly). If Tom had subscribed to the main list, then yes, things could get interesting. Just one of the technical reasons why Reply-To-list is widely deplored. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Virus
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:30:55 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Virus On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:19:19AM -0800, phillip ramirez wrote: But looks like it orig from a 65.174.101.7 ip address All Libretto list mail passes through that address, and all Libretto list mail originates from psmtp.basiclink.com. This is because the Libretto list manager is actually a remailer that strips off almost all headers from the real incoming messages and sends out spanking new ones in their place. The only person who can track this down is the basiclink.com owner, assuming there are sufficient logs to do so. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Virus
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:05:12 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Virus On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:39:28AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone look at the headers? Yeah. They shed /zero/ useful info. I could claim to be you on a nasty-gram, and no one (perhaps not even the list owner) could prove it wasn't you. Nasty. 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Format
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:21:49 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Format On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:54:50AM -0700, Vidar Grønvold wrote: On solution can be to shell out 29 dollars for the mail-capable newsreader Agent from www.forteinc.com . Thats the client I use. Threading works beautiful with this list because sorting into threads is done on the subject line, not Message-ID. Wouldn't that get you a really flat tree (ie. a list)? How is that better than simply sorting by subject (which comes free with almost every MUA I know)? Or does Agent contain some voodoo code that reconstructs conversation threads from almost no useful info? In every other list I subscribe to, mutt displays a real tree, with branches tracking conversation threads. Here, I just get a flat list. - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Format
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:03:35 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Format On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:20:09PM -0700, Raymond wrote: Whats wrong with this maillist? There are a couple of annoyances related to SVList operations: * An extra copy of header fields in the main body. * Unconventional list sub/unsub procedure, leading to the need for a fat list trailer But SVList commits one major faux pas: * Mangling and/or stripping of headers it can't handle Look at the headers of any five messages on this list. Notice the utter uniformity -- and lack of resemblance to the ones your MUA generates. Just two examples: [1] Because SVList is a remailer, it effectively creates a new copy of each incoming message. Hence, the Message-ID field of every message on this list is replaced by a new SVList-generated one, that bears no resemblance to the one your MUA generated. [2] Because the Message-ID field is now different, SVList strips off any In-Reply-To and References fields since they don't make sense anymore. This breaks threading on all MUAs (and this is the only list I subscribe to that mutt can't thread). - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: Libretto Digest #1428 (Out of Office)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:30:59 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Libretto Digest #1428 (Out of Office) On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:05:26AM -0700, neil barnes wrote: Seven days to go...isn't 'out of office' software only supposed to send *once* to an address? Most autoresponders respond once per address /per day/. The real problem is that this list seems to be powered by a remailer rather than a proper mailing list manager. As such, it does its thing in ways that break all known autoresponders (eg. Return-Path to list address, no Precedence: bulk or Mailing-List: headers). - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:14:40 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 02:10:43AM -0700, Andy Lawn wrote: For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. Not sure if either of the reatailers David mentioned will ship internationally, but I'm almost tempted to find out - outpost.com does -- I just ordered one, but they may be backordered. (And no wonder -- most other places are retailing at 2-3x that!) however as I've already got a Libretto and a Palm I can't really justify another little toy at the moment. You have to justify toys? 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Screen smashed! Where do I go?
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:52:05 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Screen smashed! Where do I go? On Fri, 4 May 2001, Lawrence Young wrote: Unfortuantely your dealer told you the truth this time. The only place to get a replacement LCD screen is from Toshiba which is very expensive. If you can find a non-functioning 50CT with an intact screen (on eBay or elsewhere), you may be able to do the swap yourself. You'd have to be very careful, of course. I don't have a copy of David Chien's archive CD, but I'd bet there's good info in there to read before you get started down this road. 8-) -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 802.11b hardware (Re: wireless pcmcia cards)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:02:13 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 802.11b hardware (Re: wireless pcmcia cards) On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, James wrote: So they actually work as access points under linux, excellent ! Nope, they work like standard Ethernet devices. Any bridging or routing that the vendor's access point would normally do must now be done by your Linux box. -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:32 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Pres Waterman wrote: should work correctly for the majority of MUAs that grok links in message text. That leaves a (hopefully) minority of folks who'll type: And you think a native English ( or American ) speaker would understand THAT sentence? G Argh. I really should get to bed b4 3am... Read that as: should work correctly for the majority of mail clients that understand links in message text...snnnzxzxxxzzz -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:05:19 +0800 (SGT)
From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Pres Waterman wrote:
Since the "mailto" thing seems to work, and I wonder if it is due to
the mail CLIENT responding correctly, I wonder if it could have been
SEEN as "click here" but actually linked to the "mailto blah blah?blah
thing"
MUAs^H^H^H^Hmail clients would do that only for HTML mail ("DIE, FOUL
ABOMINATION!"). I'd be very surprised if one could take the mailto: URL
and automagically replace it with a nice short "Click here" link.
--
Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: H Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:10:20 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H Re: unsubscribe digest On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, neil barnes wrote: damned if I know what a MUA is though! MUA = Mail User Agent. Pine, elm, mutt, etc. Some even count Outlook Express in this category. 8-) Sorry, too many RFCs + enough sleep = half-lucid technobabble. Cheers, Neil (two days and counting) I must've missed something. Exactly what are you counting? -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:09:52 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Matthew Hanson wrote: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribedigest Shouldn't that be: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject="cmd:unsubscribe digest" ?? ... it would save a lot of people a bunch of extra steps. More to the point, very few people would then get it _wrong_. The current wording is _really_ vague. -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:47:46 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Adrian Ho wrote: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject="cmd:unsubscribe digest" Silly me: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe%20digest Of course, it only works properly if your MUA groks HTTP mangling. -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:10:23 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Pres Waterman wrote: That would be wrong. It needs the space for the digest to be unsubscribed. Not 2 spaces, and not DIGEST as some have tried. I showed this list's footer to a Brit friend. He immediately pointed out that it was thoroughly ambiguous even for a native English speaker, and you just pointed out two of the many possible erroneous interpretations. Sounds like a good reason to change it, no? I'd love it if people would click on that link as opposed to trying various ways of spelling and formatting it manually. That's the problem -- the "unsub digest" part is currently _not_ a link. As I pointed out in my previous mail, putting the following in the footer: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe%20digest should work correctly for the majority of MUAs that grok links in message text. That leaves a (hopefully) minority of folks who'll type: cmd:unsubscribe%20digest into their Subject: lines. shrug -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
