RE: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:53:59 -0400 From: Hui, Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST Marc, To unsubscribe, you need to type in your subject line: cmd:unsubscribe or: cmd:unsubscribe digest depending on which list you want to be removed from. If you do not add cmd: (no spaces between cmd: and unsubscribe), it will not work. Cheers, Cliff -Original Message- From: Marc @ American Elevator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Libretto Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:42:09 -0700 From: Marc @ American Elevator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:21:58 From: "neil barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H Re: unsubscribe digest Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:10:20 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H Re: unsubscribe digest On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, neil barnes wrote: damned if I know what a MUA is though! MUA = Mail User Agent. Pine, elm, mutt, etc. Some even count Outlook Express in this category. 8-) Doh. I use an ancient version of Eudora - guaranteed no execution of nasties... Sorry, too many RFCs + enough sleep = half-lucid technobabble. Cheers, Neil (two days and counting) I must've missed something. Exactly what are you counting? Happy birthday to me, hppy birthday to me...twentyone and a few months... Neil _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:51:28 -0500 From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest should work correctly for the majority of MUAs that grok links in message text. That leaves a (hopefully) minority of folks who'll type: And you think a native English ( or American ) speaker would understand THAT sentence? G Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
H Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:35:07 From: "neil barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: H Re: unsubscribe digest grok /grohk/ (from the novel Stranger in a Strange Land, by Robert Heinlein) v. 1: to understand, usually in a global sense; connotes intimate and exhaustive knowledge. Source: The Free Online Dictionary of Computing I seem to recall RAH was an American of some description...damned if I know what a MUA is though! Cheers, Neil (two days and counting) From: "Pres Waterman" Reply-To: Libretto To: Libretto Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:56:04 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:51:28 -0500 From: "Pres Waterman" Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest should work correctly for the majority of MUAs that grok links in message text. That leaves a (hopefully) minority of folks who'll type: And you think a native English ( or American ) speaker would understand THAT sentence? Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:44:12 - From: "Matthew Hanson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest From: Adrian Ho Of course, it only works properly if your MUA groks HTTP mangling. "Groks"!! Haven't heard that term in a few generations! Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:02:57 - From: "Matthew Hanson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems that if those last two lines could read: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribedigest ... it would save a lot of people a bunch of extra steps. Anyway of getting that changed? That would be wrong. It needs the space for the digest to be unsubscribed. Not 2 spaces, and not DIGEST as some have tried. Hey Pres... Oops... I must have subscribed and unsubscribed a dozed times in the past few years... don't know how I messed that one up! I'd love it if people would click on that link as opposed to trying various ways of spelling and formatting it manually. How about something that says "Click Here to subscribe to the digest:" And the same for unsubscribing. Also, having an example of just how the subject line should look, "cmd:unsubscribe" instead of that whole string: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe ...which I can see can be quite confusing to a lot of people. The subject, "cmd:unsubscribe digest" should also be spelled out clearly as what should be entered in the subect field for those who are always having problems with that. The question mark (?) between the email address, and the word "subject" is confusing. And the equal sign between the words "subject" and the text that is supposed to be entered in the subject field, "cmd:unsubscribe", is confusing. Then too, a lot of people don't recognize what "mailto" means. It may sound obvious, but it's really an HTML authoring term that is being used as a kind of a computer tech's contraction for what is being described. Wouldn't hurt to spell things out a bit more clearly. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:14:41 -0500 From: "Hui, Clifford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: unsubscribe digest I think there was also once a T-shirt that read "I grok Spock" -- for those who were fans of both Heinlein's and Roddenberry's works of fiction. And no, I don't have one. Cliff -Original Message- From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:51 PM To: Libretto Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:44:12 - From: "Matthew Hanson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest From: Adrian Ho Of course, it only works properly if your MUA groks HTTP mangling. "Groks"!! Haven't heard that term in a few generations! Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:21:24 -0500 From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest Then too, a lot of people don't recognize what "mailto" means. It may sound obvious, but it's really an HTML authoring term that is being used as a kind of a computer tech's contraction for what is being described. Since the "mailto" thing seems to work, and I wonder if it is due to the mail CLIENT responding correctly, I wonder if it could have been SEEN as "click here" but actually linked to the "mailto blah blah?blah thing" Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:12:49 -0500 From: "Mike Ward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest Perhaps not all native English speakers, but perhaps one who was a stranger in a strange land? - Original Message - From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:56 AM Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:51:28 -0500 From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest should work correctly for the majority of MUAs that grok links in message text. That leaves a (hopefully) minority of folks who'll type: And you think a native English ( or American ) speaker would understand THAT sentence? G Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:32 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Pres Waterman wrote: should work correctly for the majority of MUAs that grok links in message text. That leaves a (hopefully) minority of folks who'll type: And you think a native English ( or American ) speaker would understand THAT sentence? G Argh. I really should get to bed b4 3am... Read that as: should work correctly for the majority of mail clients that understand links in message text...snnnzxzxxxzzz -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:05:19 +0800 (SGT)
From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Pres Waterman wrote:
Since the "mailto" thing seems to work, and I wonder if it is due to
the mail CLIENT responding correctly, I wonder if it could have been
SEEN as "click here" but actually linked to the "mailto blah blah?blah
thing"
MUAs^H^H^H^Hmail clients would do that only for HTML mail ("DIE, FOUL
ABOMINATION!"). I'd be very surprised if one could take the mailto: URL
and automagically replace it with a nice short "Click here" link.
--
Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: H Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:10:20 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H Re: unsubscribe digest On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, neil barnes wrote: damned if I know what a MUA is though! MUA = Mail User Agent. Pine, elm, mutt, etc. Some even count Outlook Express in this category. 8-) Sorry, too many RFCs + enough sleep = half-lucid technobabble. Cheers, Neil (two days and counting) I must've missed something. Exactly what are you counting? -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:21:34 - From: "Matthew Hanson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest From: "Simon M. Schwaighofer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: unsubscribe digest unsubscribe digest ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** Seems that if those last two lines could read: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribedigest ... it would save a lot of people a bunch of extra steps. Anyway of getting that changed? Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:09:52 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Matthew Hanson wrote: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribedigest Shouldn't that be: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject="cmd:unsubscribe digest" ?? ... it would save a lot of people a bunch of extra steps. More to the point, very few people would then get it _wrong_. The current wording is _really_ vague. -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:47:46 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Adrian Ho wrote: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject="cmd:unsubscribe digest" Silly me: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe%20digest Of course, it only works properly if your MUA groks HTTP mangling. -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:54:21 -0500 From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest Seems that if those last two lines could read: UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribedigest ... it would save a lot of people a bunch of extra steps. Anyway of getting that changed? That would be wrong. It needs the space for the digest to be unsubscribed. Not 2 spaces, and not DIGEST as some have tried. I'd love it if people would click on that link as opposed to trying various ways of spelling and formatting it manually. Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: unsubscribe digest
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:10:23 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unsubscribe digest On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Pres Waterman wrote: That would be wrong. It needs the space for the digest to be unsubscribed. Not 2 spaces, and not DIGEST as some have tried. I showed this list's footer to a Brit friend. He immediately pointed out that it was thoroughly ambiguous even for a native English speaker, and you just pointed out two of the many possible erroneous interpretations. Sounds like a good reason to change it, no? I'd love it if people would click on that link as opposed to trying various ways of spelling and formatting it manually. That's the problem -- the "unsub digest" part is currently _not_ a link. As I pointed out in my previous mail, putting the following in the footer: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe%20digest should work correctly for the majority of MUAs that grok links in message text. That leaves a (hopefully) minority of folks who'll type: cmd:unsubscribe%20digest into their Subject: lines. shrug -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
