Re: [Licq-main] Jabber plugin for licq

2002-12-25 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 04:38:33PM +0300, Dmitry Samersoff wrote:

 How about to write it ?

Don't see much of a need.  The Jabber client Psi is very similar to Licq
already and with a properly configured Jabber server you have access to
your ICQ, Jabber, and other contacts.

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Re: Re[2]: [Licq-main] licq with iptables

2002-06-07 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:38:10 +0100
Darren Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Thomas, thanks for your email.  I don't think it's unprecise.
 
 TCP and UDP ports that should be allowed so that licq can function
 in all configurations.

Perhaps it is seen as unprecise as there is no specific configuration
that is needed for Licq's current functionality.  If you can give a better
idea as to what you are having problems with, perhaps someone will be able
to assist you.

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Re: [jcollins@asgardsrealm.net: Re: Re[2]: [Licq-main] licq with iptables]

2002-06-07 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:28:50 +0100
Darren Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it me or is this not straight forward?  I guess not as it's not in
 the FAQ.
 
 A standard firewall generally denies all traffic by default, right?
 So in order to enable functionality, what ports and hosts does licq use?

Ah... now we start getting to the core of the problem.  A different
perception of standard firewall.  I will admit you have the correct
technical definition of a firewall.  However, from your own subject line
you indicate iptables.  With iptables it is quite common to use the
stateful connection tracking to allow response packets to existing
established connections.  Additionally, many implimentations of an
iptables based firewalls that are providing NAT'ing server are intended to
be transparent (as much as possible anyway) to the users they protect and
NAT.

With the above to conditions met, there is nothing additional that is
needed for Licq to work.  I run an iptables based firewall in several
locations based on my own firewall script.  There have been no special
allowances made for Licq (or any icq clients for that matter) and they all
happily work.

 ps Jamin, no need to post message to list if it's only intended for
me.

If it's sent to the list, then it's in the archives.  Then the next person
that looks for it can find it.


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Re: [Licq-main] an issue with online notify

2002-05-02 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Thu, 2 May 2002 08:08:43 -0500
Jon Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Look in the network log, you'll see that it says they keep coming
 online.  This usually means the person is using GAIM, as all my contacts
 who use GAIM for ICQ send an online packet every 60 seconds.

That would strike me as a bug.  They probably implimented as a work around
of sorts, but it's a bad one.

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Re: [Licq-main] some thoughts

2002-03-26 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:12:26 +0100
Christian B. Wiik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, they don't ;) They ask the client behind the firewall to try a
 direct connection in the other direction. Licq does this too.
(snip)
 Sending mesages through server is, in other words, only theoretically
 needed when both clients are behind firewalls.

If it's only theoretically needed, how do you propose to request the remote client 
(the one behind the firewall) open the door for you by attempting a connection to 
you?  You still need to send at least the initial request through the server (if I'm 
not mistaken) to get your request to the client behind the firewall.

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Re: [Licq-main] problems with sending over server (CVS)

2002-03-13 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:21:45 -0500
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Michael Wojcikiewicz wrote:
 I've been getting the same behaviour from licq for the last little while
 (also using CVS compiled version from a few weeks ago).  It seems that
 none of my messages will ever go through after a little while... I am
 behind a firewall (at work), but no policies have changed in a long
 time, and it used to work.  sounds like mirabilis messing with the
 protocol again.
 
 --mike
 
 
 Hello, I remember writing about having this problem   maybe 3 weeks
 ago. but  I think I was dismissed like an old crazy lady..LOL..
 But anyway I too can send mesg. for a little while then after disconnect
 and riconnect, it will start , again, it is a viciuos circle.. it
 used to work fine and all of the sudden ...??? who knowes what
 happened.. I use SuSE  Linux 7.3 and licq version 1.1.0/SSl QT GUI
 plugin version 1.04...

This problem has been reported on the GnomeICU list several times.  I
believe they found the problem to be that they were ignoring a message
from the ICQ server concerning messages being sent too fast.  Perhaps this
is the case here too?

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Re: [Licq-main] contact list feature

2002-02-25 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:10:35 -0500 (EST)
Stewart Honsberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  GnomeICU has support for server side contact lists.
 
 Is this feature optional, or forced?

AFAIK, it's forced in the latest version.  Perhaps, this is part of the new protocol 
version?

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Re: [Licq-main] ICQ Server Source Code.

2002-02-23 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:57:35 -0500 (EST)
Ho Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anybody know where there is ICQ Server source code available?  Has
 somebody written any code for the ICQ Server?

Don't know of any clones of the ICQ server.  Not really sure why you'd
want to reimpliment ICQ anyway.  However, if you're looking for an
extensible Open Source IM server, perhaps you sould look into Jabber. 
There are many clients for it and quite a few modules that provide a
variety of functions.

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Re: [Licq-main] Setting the default port

2002-02-13 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:07:04 -0800
Milosz Habiau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not the admin of this firewall so I'm not able to open or
 close any ports. 

This would appear to be a problem then.

 Many of my friends are behind the same firewall but they work
 with windows and use mirabilis icq 2000b. They don't have any
 problems to go online, and I'm sure they don't use the port
 5190. It seems they connect to 64.12.25.41 on port 20.

I highly doubt this.  I've just checked a Windows 2000b client and it
does indeed establish a connection to login.icq.com on port 5190 just
as licq is trying to do.  Additionally, cursory checks don't reveal
anything listening on at 64.12.25.41 on port 20 for connections.  Unless
the firewall in question is altering destination ports on it's own, I
don't see this working.

 Tell me please how to set another server and default port,
 how to tell licq not to connect to login.icq.com.

None of this will much matter, unless the other server is listening on
the specified port.

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Re: [Licq-main] Setting the default port

2002-02-13 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:35:03 -0500
Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 10:25:42AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
   Many of my friends are behind the same firewall but they work
   with windows and use mirabilis icq 2000b. They don't have any
   problems to go online, and I'm sure they don't use the port
   5190. It seems they connect to 64.12.25.41 on port 20.
  
  I highly doubt this. 
 
 I believe login.icq.com has every port set up as an icq port - so you
 can point your client at any port, and it'll still work.

It does appear that login.icq.com does listen on most every port (least
ones I've tried).  However, you must still point to a server that is
listening.  The IP address specified is not one of those returned by a
DNS lookup of login.icq.com, thus it will not work.

 I do agree, licq should have a way to assign which port to connect on,
 as an easy way to bypass packet filtering firewalls.  

This is a bit of a touchy subject.  The idea of a firewall is that it
not be bypassed.

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Re: [Licq-main] 1.1.0 release coming soon?

2002-02-13 Thread Jamin W. Collins

On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 17:06, Tim van Erven wrote:
  I think these could be pushed off for a while, maybe added an update
  release to follow.  GnomeICU doesn't have support for these yet, either.
   The big thing would be to get a functional release out that provides
  support for most the new protocol.  This would be highly benificial for
  those that don't normally run the CVS version.
 
 Why? I think releasing licq in its current state would only confuse
 people not on this list. At least if they get it from CVS they'll know
 they're running a devel version. If they're running an official release
 they'll start to expect things like all features working and all that.

Mainly for two reasons:

1) contrary to popular believe not all linux users know how to use CVS
and compile applications
2) the current actual release of Licq is broken (ICQ no longer supports
use of that protocol version)

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[Licq-main] Why not a combined icq communication library?

2002-01-24 Thread Jamin W. Collins

I've been wondering for a while now, why there isn't a central
abstracted ICQ communication library for the various ICQ clients?  

It seems that it would make more sense for the various client developers
to coordinate on a central abstracted library that they could all
benefit from, rather than each working to implement redundant
functionality separately.  

Then each project could link to the library in more generic ways and
changes to the protocol would possibly only mean changes to the core
library leaving clients largely unaffected.

From what I've seen, LICQ and GnomeICU seem to be two of the most
advanced ICQ clones available.  Combined effort from these two projects
would most likely result in a very useful core library.  Has anything
like this been looked at?

Jamin W. Collins


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