tweaking voicefollower lines

2004-08-05 Thread Shelagh
Did this get through before?
I sent it a couple of days ago.
How would you go about tweaking voice follower lines?
I want them to be not as attached to the noteheads (eg shorter).
I tried something like this;
\override VoiceFollower #'extra-offset = #'( -1 . 0)
which made it look better, but is there a better property for determining 
the length of the
line? It looks like it ought to be the #'Y-extent-callback which requires 
a procedure and I
haven't a clue what to do.

Shelagh
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2004-08-05 Thread JimmyThePage
How it doesn't work it?please help me it's very important...
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Text markup locations and background

2004-08-05 Thread W. C.
I wanted to put a small piece of text ("ten") right beneath a note.  However, I needed 
the text to appear over the staff, but \translate seems to stop as soon as the text 
begins to cover the staff.  Is there any way to do this?

Also, is there any way to set the background filling of text, so that the text has a 
solid white background instead of transparent?

Thanks so much!
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Mac OS X current unstable?

2004-08-05 Thread "Dardón Aguilera, Javier Arturo"
Frist I'd like to thank you for this great software, I haven´t used it yet, but I 
already had troubles triying to make fine looking music sheet in Sibelius, (and I hate 
the mouse secuences). The music I've download from your site (and from the Mutopia 
project) it really looks like the old & beautiful hand-maded scores. It really comes 
out the difference. Yesterday and today I was reading all your site and you really 
convinced me. Now I'm anxious to start making music with LilyPond and even contribute 
to Mutopia Project. But I have only one question, why al the Mac OSX versions says 
currente unstable? What does it means?, and Why only the Mac Version?; can I run it 
without problems.

Best Regards, and Congratulations on your really great job. 

Javier Dardón


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Re: \alternative Not Working

2004-08-05 Thread Will Oram
I am using 2.3.10 at the moment. I viewed the output using PS and PDF. 
There is no change in adding instruments, removing non-repeat music, 
and removing music within the repeat block.

 Here is the complete block with appropriate defs added:
cr  = \markup { \italic cresc. }
dashed  = \once \set crescendoSpanner = #'dashed-line
caesura = {  \override BreathingSign
 #'text = #(make-musicglyph-markup "scripts-caesura") }
\repeat volta 2 {
	dsharp2( gsharp)
	e4-._\cr csharp-. \dashed gsharp-.\< csharp-.
	e2( a)
	fsharp4 dsharp b! dsharp
	fsharp2( b)
	r4 fsharp( b2)~
	b4 r r2\!
	
	R1*2
	
	r4 g(_\markup { \italic dim. } b2)~
	b4 r r2
	
	R1*2
	
	r4_\markup { \italic piu \dynamic p }^\markup { \huge {Molto poco 
adagio.}}
		r8 gsharp!8( b4)~ b~
	b r r2
	
	R1*2
	R1^\markup { \huge {Tempo I.}}
	
	r2 dsharp,,4-.\pp b-.
	gsharp-. b-. r2
	dsharp4 b gsharp b
	dsharp' b gsharp b
	dsharp2( gsharp)
	fsharpsharp4 gsharp asharp b
	csharp^\markup { \huge {ritard.}} b asharp csharp
	
	\caesura %%% defined in separate file
	\breathe
	
	b4-.\f^\markup { \huge {in tempo}} gsharp-. e-. gsharp-.
	b2( e)
	dsharp4-. e-. fsharp!-. gsharp-.
	a r r2
	gsharp4-. fsharp-. e-. dsharp-.
	csharp2( fsharp)
	dsharp4-. e-. csharp-. dsharp-.
	b2( e)
	e4-. dsharp-. csharp-. dsharp-.
	e d,\p e fsharp
	gsharp( fsharp) e-. dsharp-.
	csharp( dsharp) e-. fsharp-.
	dsharp(_\cr e) csharp-. dsharp-.
	b( csharp) d-. e-.
	e( dsharp) csharp-. dsharp-.
	fsharp( e) dsharp-. e-.
	gsharp\f( fsharp) esharp-. fsharp-.
	a\sf( gsharp) fsharp-. gsharp-.
	b\f( a) gsharp-. a-.
	csharp\f( b) asharp-. b-.
	d\f( csharp) e-. dsharp-.
	}
	\alternative {{ e4 r r2 | dsharp,4-.\p bsharp-. gsharp-. bsharp-. } { 
e'4 e\p b r }}

On Aug 5, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Your lines of code work fine here. Could you please send a complete
example and also tell what LilyPond version you use.
By the way, how did you look at the result? The .dvi, .ps, pdf or the
printed output?
   /Mats
Will Oram wrote:
With one instrument playing, I can't get the \alternative's to appear 
correctly. The notes are printed, but the boxes above them indicating 
they are 1st/2nd time repeats are not.
Doing my best to reproduce what is shown in the manual:
\repeat volta 2 {
dsharp2( gsharp)
%%% more stuff
}
\alternative {{ e'4 r r2 | dsharp,4-.\p bsharp-. gsharp-. 
bsharp-. } { e'4 e\p b r }}
Where did I goof?
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metronome mark

2004-08-05 Thread Libero Mureddu
Hi!
Can you help me to understand why the metronome marking doesn't appear 
in the following example?
I'm quite sure that I'm missing something very simple, but I can't 
solve this.
I'm putting \tempo everywhere with no results.

Libero Mureddu
P.S. Thanks to Mats for the staff size solution!
Ibook g3 800
mac os 10.3.4
lilypond 2.2.5
% - Piano -
mdSuperiore = \notes {
  \key g \major
  \tempo 4=120
 % \voiceOne
 \mark \default
 r4 r8 \relative g'' {g16 fis e d c b a}
  \relative g' {g fis e }\time 2/4
}
mdInferiore = \notes {
 % \voiceTwo
}
msSuperiore = \notes {
  % \voiceOne
  }
msInferiore = \notes {
%  \voiceTwo
%  \key g \major
%  \relative c {
%\repeat "tremolo" 16 { g32 d'32 } }
  }
PianoMD = {
  \clef treble
  \context Staff <<
\context Voice = one \mdSuperiore
\context Voice = two \mdInferiore
  >>
}
PianoMS = {
  \clef bass
  \context Staff <<
  \context Voice = One \msSuperiore
  \context Voice = Two \msInferiore
>>
}
piano = {
  \context PianoStaff <<
\override PianoStaff.VerticalAlignment #'forced-distance = #8
\override PianoStaff.TimeSignature  #'style = #'numbered
\set PianoStaff.instrument = "Pianoforte   "
  \context Staff = upper \with {
fontSize = #-2
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -2)
  }
  \PianoMD
  \context Staff = lower \with {
fontSize = #-2
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -2)
  }
  \PianoMS
>>
}
% - Contrabbasso -
basso = \notes {
\tempo 4=120
  \key g\major
  | \relative c {g8. g'8 g,8 g'8. [g,8 g'] g,8~ [
  | g16 g'8 g,] g'8.}
 }
basso = {
  \set Staff.instrument = "Contrabbasso"
  \override Staff.TimeSignature  #'style = #'numbered
  \clef bass
  \context Staff <<
\basso
  >>
}
% - partitura -
\score {
  <<
  \context PianoStaff = piano \piano
  \context Staff = basso \basso
>>
\paper {
  \context {
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
  }
}
}
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Re: \alternative Not Working

2004-08-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Your lines of code work fine here. Could you please send a complete
example and also tell what LilyPond version you use.
By the way, how did you look at the result? The .dvi, .ps, pdf or the
printed output?
   /Mats
Will Oram wrote:
With one instrument playing, I can't get the \alternative's to appear 
correctly. The notes are printed, but the boxes above them indicating 
they are 1st/2nd time repeats are not.

Doing my best to reproduce what is shown in the manual:
\repeat volta 2 {
dsharp2( gsharp)
%%% more stuff
}
\alternative {{ e'4 r r2 | dsharp,4-.\p bsharp-. gsharp-. bsharp-. } 
{ e'4 e\p b r }}

Where did I goof?
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Re: clef after bar

2004-08-05 Thread Thorkil Wolvendans
Hi Mats,
Thanks for the trick!
Sorry for my late reaction, but I overlooked it completely and discovered 
your reply only yesterday.
The property you showed works better than the little trick Erik told about, 
since his trick resulted in a rather large empty space between the bar and 
the clef, and the official way you showed doesn't. But in the end, isn't 
the official way (almost) always the best?
Thanks for always being of such great help, I appreciate it very much!

Kind regards,
Thorkil
At 11:10 29-7-04, you wrote:
The order can be customized simply by settting a property,
there's no need to mess up the rhythm with short skips:
\score{\notes\relative c'{
\override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = ##(; end-of-line:
(instrument-name left-edge ambitus 
breathing-sign
 clef  staff-bar 
key-signature
 time-signature custos)

; unbroken
(instrument-name left-edge ambitus 
breathing-sign
 staff-bar clef key-signature
 staff
 time-signature custos)
; begin of line
(instrument-name left-edge ambitus 
breathing-sign
 clef key-signature staff-bar
 time-signature custos)

)
c4 c c c | \once \override Staff.Clef  #'non-default = ##t \clef "alto" c 
c c c |
}
}

As you can see, the list gets very long since the settings are
different at line ends, line starts and in the middle of the line.
If you just want to do the setting once using \once in a score, you
can save some lines by using the trick in input/regression/ambitus.ly.
   /Mats

Erik Sandberg wrote:
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 22.28, Thorkil Wolvendans wrote:
Hi everyone!
At a certain point in a composition, I try to make a new clef appear after
the barline instead of before, without a positive result.
Is it possible in Lily to achieve this? I searched the docs, but couldn't
find an answer.
The easiest way is probably to cheat, by inserting a very short skip 
before the clef. Instead of
c4 c c c | \clef "alto" c c c c |
do
c4 c c c | \skip 16 \clef "alto" c4*3/4 c4 c c |
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\alternative Not Working

2004-08-05 Thread Will Oram
With one instrument playing, I can't get the \alternative's to appear 
correctly. The notes are printed, but the boxes above them indicating 
they are 1st/2nd time repeats are not.

Doing my best to reproduce what is shown in the manual:
\repeat volta 2 {
	dsharp2( gsharp)
	%%% more stuff
	}
	\alternative {{ e'4 r r2 | dsharp,4-.\p bsharp-. gsharp-. bsharp-. } { 
e'4 e\p b r }}

Where did I goof?
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Re: Using Lilypond

2004-08-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor

Also, how is it decided which versions are ported to Windows?
Being the packager for Windows, I usually try to build the new versions 
as soon as they come out. But there are often problems that have to be 
solved. For example in the recent 2.2.x versions I could not build the 
documentation yet, for some Texinfo problems. In the 2.3.x series there 
is some segmentation fault which I couldn't find out yet.

For development versions I usually don't feel urgent to solve the 
problems, (so I tried to build 2.3.x only one time). And, development 
versions will never be uploaded to cygwin mirrors, but will be made 
downloadable from my homepage, if I am able to build them.

Bert
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Re: Using Lilypond

2004-08-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Dave Phillips wrote:
When using convert-ly you should add this line to your original LY file:
   \version "1.8"
Well, you should add the version number of the LilyPond version the
file originally was written for. Typically, it has three level of
digits, such as \version "1.8.3".
since the utility essentially works as an updating device.
Also, how is it decided which versions are ported to Windows?

I don't use Windows and I'm not a LilyPond developer, but my guess is 
that there's a big dartboard at LilyPond Central... ;-)
The stable versions (2.2.x for the moment) are ported to Windows as
quickly as the responsible person has time to do it. The experimental
development versions (2.3.x for the moment) are typically not ported.
   /Mats
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Re: Using Lilypond

2004-08-05 Thread Dave Phillips
J L wrote:
Can someone tell me how to call the scripts? I know that there is 
stuff in the documentation about doing so, but a physical example 
would be better (such as how to basically get it to open a file and 
generate an output file with the changes). I would in particular like 
to know how to operate 'midi2ly' and 'convert-ly'.
It's pretty easy to use the scripts:
   midi2ly foo.mid -o foo.ly
   convert-ly foo.ly > foo-converted.ly
However, you should do some preparation on your files before conversion. 
For best results, your MIDI files should be Type 1 (otherwise everything 
goes into a single track), quantized and stripped of extraneous data. 
When using convert-ly you should add this line to your original LY file:

   \version "1.8"
since the utility essentially works as an updating device.
Also, how is it decided which versions are ported to Windows?
I don't use Windows and I'm not a LilyPond developer, but my guess is 
that there's a big dartboard at LilyPond Central... ;-)

Btw, please correct me if I'm in error in my descriptions of the 
utilities. I've simply described how I use them.

Best regards,
dp

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Re: Using Lilypond

2004-08-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As in my previous answer, I urge you to always specify clearly what
operating system you use and what LilyPond version you have installed.
From your last line, I guess you use Windows (which actually is a
minority on this mailing list).
J L wrote:
Hi,
Can someone tell me how to call the scripts? I know that there is stuff 
in the documentation about doing so, but a physical example would be 
better (such as how to basically get it to open a file and generate an 
output file with the changes). I would in particular like to know how to 
operate 'midi2ly' and 'convert-ly'.
As Stefaan said, it's just to go to the corresponding sections of the
manual. Just two details that are maybe not obvious for a first time
user with Windows background:
- The working directory when you start your Cygwin command window is
  C:\cygwin\home\\, so this is the directory you should
  copy the files to before you run the commands.
- The normal way to call convert-ly is
  convert-ly -e myfile.ly
  which will update the file myfile.ly and make a backup of the original
  version in myfile.ly~
   /Mats
Also, how is it decided which versions are ported to Windows?
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Re: Lilypond 2.2 installs but software doesn't launch

2004-08-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please read
http://lilypond.org/web/download/windows.html
to get started.
Are you sure that the third file was called .lytxt? If it was
called .lytex, then you can't use the double-click feature of
ordinary .ly files but have to do something like the following:
- Copy the files to the directory C:/cygwin/home//
- Click on the Cygwin window to get a Cygwin command prompt.
- Run the following commands:
  lilypond-book .lytex
  latex .tex
  dvips -Ppdf -u+lilypond .dvi
which should give you a .pdf file with the score.
However, since LilyPond is still under heavy development, there's a
large risk that your .ly files don't match the LilyPond version that
you installed. In that case, you may first have to run the command
convert-ly -e *.ly
which (hopefully) will update all the syntax to your version.
I know this seems like a big mess if you just want to see a
single score, but there have been lots of emails on the list
from people who after a week or so of LilyPond usage claim that
it not only produces nicer typography than most other programs
but that it also is faster to enter music this way.
Good luck!
   /Mats
Tom Duda wrote:
Hello
Because I don't see that Lilypond 2.3 has been ported to Windows, I downloaded and 
installed 2.2. When I launch lilypond-bin.exe, I see an empty Command Prompt for a few 
seconds and then it closes.
My OS is Win XP Media Center with all critical updates installed. My CPU is Pentium IV 
2.6 gHz with 512 megs RAM and 30+ gigs free space on the partition in which Lilypond 
resides. pagefile.sys is 1.6 gigs.
When I ran setup.exe, I left all packages at "Default" except for the folder that 
contains Lilypond. In that folder, I selected Lilypond and accepted the other items that became 
active in that folder. If it matters, I chose planetmirror.org as the source server.
What is most frustrating is that I have just one music score, apparently consisting of 
three files, that I want to see. For some reason, the person who made the score 
available did not save it in PostScript format. I have two files with a .ly extension 
and one with .lytxt extension.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. :-)
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Re: Using Lilypond

2004-08-05 Thread Stefaan
 (such as how to basically get it to open a file and generate an
output file with the changes). I would in particular like to know how to 
operate 'midi2ly' and 'convert-ly'.
Would you like me to copy and paste manual sections 5.1 and 7.1 in here?
In the mean-time maybe I can get you some tea and biscuits?
Oh no, I accidentily spilled your tea on the pasted manual sections... 
completely smudged I'm afraid... oh my, I guess you will have to look 
them up yourself now.

Honestly, they contain exactly what you are looking for and if not, you 
may want to propose some changes and end up in the "Thanks" file instead 
of in the killfile ;)


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