Re: small phrase to small png

[Stan Mulder]

In addition to the other suggestions, if you are on Linux/Unix, after 
using the --preview command you can convert the eps file to an image with:

ps2png 
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Insert
\layout{ raggedright = ##t }
in your file if you dont want your notes spread out over the
full line width.
   /Mats
Bo Herlin wrote:
Yes, but I was hoping for a "shorter" picture of the measure for 
something as short as { c' d' e' f' } which results in a 627x41 pixel 
image, when it could be something like 250x41.

Maurizio Tomasi wrote:
Bo Herlin wrote:
Hi
I am wondering if someone can help me figuring out how i can get a 
small  png or eps picture out of a small phrase of say 4 notes? I 
dont want a whole page or anything, just the bar with the notes. Is 
it possible?

Thanks in advance
/Bo
Use --preview from the command line.
Maurizio.


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Re: latin1.enc

[Graham Percival]

On 26-Apr-05, at 9:43 AM, Jackman wrote:
Thank you all for the help.  This seems to be a common problem
considering there are a number of these types of questions in the
archives.
Thanks!  I just suggested that people run setup.exe again if it didn't
work the first time; that seems to fix 90% of the problems we see.
Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: metronome mark bug?

[Erik Sandberg]

On Wednesday 27 April 2005 03.27, Jonatan Liljedahl wrote:
> from metronome-marking.ly in
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.ht
>ml
>
>   Here \tempo directives are printed as metronome markings.
>   The marking is left aligned with the time signature, if there is one.
>   [image of music]
>
> But it is not left aligned with any time signature, at least not with
> 2.5.18 and 2.5.20...

Thanks, added to bug cvs.

BTW, bug reports should go to bug-lilypond@gnu.org, otherwise there is a risk 
that I don't read them.

Erik


%
%Jonatan Liljedahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

\header {
texidoc = "Metronome marking should be left aligned with the time signature, 
according to regression/metronome-marking.ly.
"
reportedin = "2.4.2"
}

\version "2.4.0"

\score {  \relative c'' {   \tempo \breve = 100 c1  }
\layout {  raggedright = ##t }

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Invisible bars

[Jonatan Liljedahl]

I'm looking for a way to white out skipped bars in a score... 
I have seen the staff-container.ly example, but it's kind of awkward
syntactially. I'd like to just have a staffcontext where skipped bars
(\skip n) is not drawn. Could the function used to remove staffs without
anything "important" in also be used for bars, somehow? Or could I hook
into StaffSymbol print function and from there white out single bars??

Does anyone have a solution for this?

using 2.5.20...
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Re: latin1.enc

[Jackman]

Thank you all for the help.  This seems to be a common problem
considering there are a number of these types of questions in the
archives.  Would it be worth trying to get this question and others in
a "Frequently Screwed Up Things People Do" section on the installation
instructions page?  Thanks.

Andrew Jackman.
KD7NYQ.

On 4/26/05, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rerun the installation program setup.exe and make sure that
> version 2.4.3 of the lilypond package is installed (it should be
> by default when you rerun setup.exe, you probably happened to click
> twice when you selected the package the first time you installed, which
> gives you an older version).
> 
> /Mats
> 
> Jackman wrote:
> > I am not familiar with cygwin nor lilypond, so I do not know how to
> > troubleshoot this output.  I appreciate any help available.  I will
> > help on my end the best I can.  Thanks.
> >
> > Andrew Jackman.
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> > See Attached File.
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metronome mark bug?

[Jonatan Liljedahl]

from metronome-marking.ly in
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html

Here \tempo directives are printed as metronome markings.
The marking is left aligned with the time signature, if there is one.
[image of music] 

But it is not left aligned with any time signature, at least not with
2.5.18 and 2.5.20...

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Re: small phrase to small png

[Mats Bengtsson]

Insert
\layout{ raggedright = ##t }
in your file if you dont want your notes spread out over the
full line width.
   /Mats
Bo Herlin wrote:
Yes, but I was hoping for a "shorter" picture of the measure for 
something as short as { c' d' e' f' } which results in a 627x41 pixel 
image, when it could be something like 250x41.

Maurizio Tomasi wrote:
Bo Herlin wrote:
Hi
I am wondering if someone can help me figuring out how i can get a 
small  png or eps picture out of a small phrase of say 4 notes? I 
dont want a whole page or anything, just the bar with the notes. Is 
it possible?

Thanks in advance
/Bo
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Re: dvips problem

[Mats Bengtsson]

If you have searched the archives, you probably know my standard
questions:
- Have you read and followed the instructions about the file
  lilypond-profile in INSTALL.txt?
- If so, what do the following commands return:
printenv TEXMF
kpsewhich music-drawing-routines.ps
kpsewhich -format="dvips config" music-drawing-routines.ps
  /Mats
Jered Bolton wrote:
Hi,
I've looked through the archives and found similar problems to the one 
I'm experiencing - but the solutions given have not worked for me.

I've previously downloaded, compiled and installed lilypond 2.4.2 on 
SuSe 9.1.  I can use it to produce a dvi file from a latex source using 
lilypond-book etc.. When I run:

dvips -d -1-Ppdf -u+lilypond -u+ec-mftrace p-m_quality.dvi
It says:
dvips: ! Couldn't find header file music-drawing-routines.ps
The debug output for music-drawing-routines.ps begins:
Preprocessing special: header=music-drawing-routines.ps
Alloc 37
kdebug:start search(file=music-drawing-routines.ps, must_exist=0, 
find_all=0, 
path=.:/home/jered/texmf/dvips//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/dvips//:!!/var/lib/texmf/dvips//:!!/usr/share/texmf/dvips//:/home/jered/texmf/pdftex//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/pdftex//:!!/var/lib/texmf/pdftex//:!!/usr/share/texmf/pdftex//:/home/jered/texmf/tex//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex//:!!/var/lib/texmf/tex//:!!/usr/share/texmf/tex//:/home/jered/texmf/fonts/type1//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/type1//:!!/var/lib/texmf/fonts/type1//:!!/usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1//). 

Yet music-drawing-routines.ps is located in:
/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/ps/music-drawing-routines.ps
./usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/tex/music-drawing-routines.ps
./usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/dvips/ps/music-drawing-routines.ps
./usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/dvips/music-drawing-routines.ps
Any help/advice on how I can produce a ps file will be most appreciated.
Jered Bolton.

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Re: small phrase to small png

[Bo Herlin]

Yes, but I was hoping for a "shorter" picture of the measure for 
something as short as { c' d' e' f' } which results in a 627x41 pixel 
image, when it could be something like 250x41.

Maurizio Tomasi wrote:
Bo Herlin wrote:
Hi
I am wondering if someone can help me figuring out how i can get a 
small  png or eps picture out of a small phrase of say 4 notes? I dont 
want a whole page or anything, just the bar with the notes. Is it 
possible?

Thanks in advance
/Bo
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Re: small phrase to small png

[Maurizio Tomasi]

Bo Herlin wrote:
Hi
I am wondering if someone can help me figuring out how i can get a small 
 png or eps picture out of a small phrase of say 4 notes? I dont want a 
whole page or anything, just the bar with the notes. Is it possible?

Thanks in advance
/Bo
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small phrase to small png

[Bo Herlin]

Hi
I am wondering if someone can help me figuring out how i can get a small 
 png or eps picture out of a small phrase of say 4 notes? I dont want a 
whole page or anything, just the bar with the notes. Is it possible?

Thanks in advance
/Bo
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Re: Solfeggio

[Nicolas Sceaux]

"Fairchild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Tell me more please.  Just what does your editor do?

Let's suppose that the line before where the cursor stands shows (with
absolute octaves):

  g'4. a'8 

If I press the 'd' key on my keyboard, the line becomes:

  g'4. a'8 d''8 

There is two '' after the d because the nearest D from A is the one an
octave higher. Now, if that d is a quater note, I just press the '4'
key: 

  g'4. a'8 d''4 

If, instead, I wanted a d an octave lower, I'd press the comma key:

  g'4. a'8 d'4 

And so on, for alterations and dots.

But usually I use a MIDI keyboard for note entry, with Rumor. As I am
a bad keyboard player, I chose to enter the notes without
durations. After all the notes have been entered, I enter the
durations, which is just a matter of hitting the relevant numeric
keys.

This thing has been written for emacs. It is functionnal (I mean: I
use it). But some features are missing: for instance, it does not play
well with chords -- this is litotes.
  
I've written an other version fom scratch, more evolutive wrt
LilyPond syntax, but terribly slow, so I throw it. Now I am
investigating the possiblity of letting LilyPond do most of the stuff
(among which the parsing of course), in an editor-agnostic way. But I
don't know yet if it would be fast enough, and solid enough wrt
syntax errors.
Another track would be an implementation of a sort of Earley parser,
which would be more tolerant wrt errors. I don't know if that would
worth the price, though.

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dvips problem

[Jered Bolton]

Hi,
I've looked through the archives and found similar problems to the one 
I'm experiencing - but the solutions given have not worked for me.

I've previously downloaded, compiled and installed lilypond 2.4.2 on 
SuSe 9.1.  I can use it to produce a dvi file from a latex source using 
lilypond-book etc.. When I run:

dvips -d -1-Ppdf -u+lilypond -u+ec-mftrace p-m_quality.dvi
It says:
dvips: ! Couldn't find header file music-drawing-routines.ps
The debug output for music-drawing-routines.ps begins:
Preprocessing special: header=music-drawing-routines.ps
Alloc 37
kdebug:start search(file=music-drawing-routines.ps, must_exist=0, 
find_all=0, 
path=.:/home/jered/texmf/dvips//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/dvips//:!!/var/lib/texmf/dvips//:!!/usr/share/texmf/dvips//:/home/jered/texmf/pdftex//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/pdftex//:!!/var/lib/texmf/pdftex//:!!/usr/share/texmf/pdftex//:/home/jered/texmf/tex//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex//:!!/var/lib/texmf/tex//:!!/usr/share/texmf/tex//:/home/jered/texmf/fonts/type1//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/type1//:!!/var/lib/texmf/fonts/type1//:!!/usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1//).

Yet music-drawing-routines.ps is located in:
/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/ps/music-drawing-routines.ps
./usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/tex/music-drawing-routines.ps
./usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/dvips/ps/music-drawing-routines.ps
./usr/local/share/lilypond/2.4.2/dvips/music-drawing-routines.ps
Any help/advice on how I can produce a ps file will be most appreciated.
Jered Bolton.

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Re: snap (bartok) pizz

[Sean Reed]

i tried han-wen:donald axel script today with 2.5.20 and macos 10.3.9 
and got the following error:

$ lilypond bp4.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.5.20
Processing `bp4.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [3]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... bp4.ly:4:11: In expression 
(make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1):
bp4.ly:4:11: Wrong number of arguments to #

jonatan's suggestion worked nicely and centered the circle above the 
note as well. thanks!

-sean

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 26.04.2005, at 22:41, Jonatan Liljedahl wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:10:49 +0200
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Op zo, 24-04-2005 te 23:48 -0300, schreef Jonatan Liljedahl:
have i overlooked something?
is there a markup or workaround for this?
This is how I do it, put this in your .ly file:
%
#(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
  (interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:stencil
  (ly:stencil-translate-axis
(ly:stencil-add
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )
)
0.7 X
  )
)
  )
this  is rather involved. You could also do
#(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
  (ly:stencil-add
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )))
Oh, I see! No need to go trough the markup interpretation since markup
commands should return a stencil.
Beware though that without ly:stencil-translate-axis, the symbol will
not be centered above the note but centered around the the left edge of
the note, it seems... is there a way to (in the scheme above) make sure
the stencil is centered above the note/chord that the markup is 
attached
to?

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Re: snap (bartok) pizz

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

Op di, 26-04-2005 te 17:41 -0300, schreef Jonatan Liljedahl:

> > 
> > this  is rather involved. You could also do
> > 
> > #(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
> >   (ly:stencil-add
> >   (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
> >   (ly:make-stencil
> > (list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
> > '(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
> >   )))
> > 
> 
> Oh, I see! No need to go trough the markup interpretation since markup
> commands should return a stencil.
> Beware though that without ly:stencil-translate-axis, the symbol will
> not be centered above the note but centered around the the left edge of
> the note, it seems... is there a way to (in the scheme above) make sure
> the stencil is centered above the note/chord that the markup is attached
> to?

No, you should play with self-alignment-X of TextItem. See other grobs
in define-grobs.scm for inspiration 

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Re: Drum Scoring

[Jennifer Clark]

Stan Mulder wrote:
Try this:
http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/sgadd/img/drumnotation.jpg
So the notes are indeed smaller, and higher above the staff than I 
thought, but if I move them up to position #6 in Lilypond I get ledger 
lines, which is the wrong thing. Presumably getting the notes smaller is 
enough, but I don't have the Lilypond manual handy to check this at the 
moment. Will have a look later.

Jennifer
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Re: snap (bartok) pizz

[Jonatan Liljedahl]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:10:49 +0200
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Op zo, 24-04-2005 te 23:48 -0300, schreef Jonatan Liljedahl:
> > > have i overlooked something?
> > > 
> > > is there a markup or workaround for this?
> > 
> > This is how I do it, put this in your .ly file:
> > %
> > #(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
> >   (interpret-markup layout props
> > (markup #:stencil
> >   (ly:stencil-translate-axis
> > (ly:stencil-add
> >   (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
> >   (ly:make-stencil
> > (list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
> > '(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
> >   )
> > )
> > 0.7 X
> >   )
> > )
> >   )
> 
> this  is rather involved. You could also do
> 
> #(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
>   (ly:stencil-add
>   (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
>   (ly:make-stencil
> (list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
> '(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
>   )))
> 

Oh, I see! No need to go trough the markup interpretation since markup
commands should return a stencil.
Beware though that without ly:stencil-translate-axis, the symbol will
not be centered above the note but centered around the the left edge of
the note, it seems... is there a way to (in the scheme above) make sure
the stencil is centered above the note/chord that the markup is attached
to?

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Re: Drum Scoring

[Stan Mulder]

Jennifer Clark wrote:
That's exactly it - this makes a lot of sense to me as an arranger as 
it avoids the need to spell out explicitly what the drummer is most 
likely better at doing anyway.

I suppose I could scan that section if needed.

That would be really handy!
Jennifer

Try this:
http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/sgadd/img/drumnotation.jpg
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Re: Drum Scoring

[Jennifer Clark]

Stan Mulder wrote:
There is a book on drum notation put out by the Percussive Arts 
Society and it is generally agreed that this is the reference book for 
writing drum parts. The book is called "Guide to Standardized Drumset 
Notation by Norman Weinberg" 
. 
Link:  
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966492811/thestevegaddwebs/ref=nosim 

This book has been pointed out before in the archives: 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2004-12/msg00143.html

On page 39 he shows the type of notation you are trying to achieve 
where the sax or brass rhythms with articulations are written on a 
single line above the staff. This gives the drummer cues as to where 
he/she can emphasize along with the rest of the ensemble.
That's exactly it - this makes a lot of sense to me as an arranger as it 
avoids the need to spell out explicitly what the drummer is most likely 
better at doing anyway.

I suppose I could scan that section if needed. I'm fairly new to 
Lilypond so I don't know how to do that type of notation.
That would be really handy!
Jennifer

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Re: Drum Scoring

[Jennifer Clark]

Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Replace the \score{...} in my previous example by .
Brilliant, that is exactly the right thing! The correct position is 
indeed #5, although I am not sure where this convention is stated. Now I 
am getting into this more it may be that the noteheads on the rhythm 
voice are smaller than the drum voice, but I can't recall for sure. The 
drummer I was speaking to said he would get me some examples of good 
parts, and would also give me his opinion on parts I prepare (with 
Lilypond), so I can check with this. I'll let you know how I get on.

Thanks again,
Jennifer

\score {
\repeat "volta" 2
<<
\new DrumStaff <<
\new Voice \with {
  \consists "Pitch_squash_engraver"
  squashedPosition = #4
  \override Rest #'staff-position = #4
} {\stemUp \timb }
\set Staff.instrument = "drums"
\new DrumVoice {\stemDown \drl }
>>
>>
\paper {
  \context{
\DrumStaffContext
\accepts "Voice"
  }
}
and see if that's more to the point. Maybe you want to replace
the #4 with #5, I'm not certain what position you want.
Two tricks are used here:
- Modifying a normal Voice context so that all notes and rests appear
  on the same "pitch".
- Telling LilyPond that you can have a Voice context also within a
  DrumStaff context.
   /Mats
Jennifer Clark wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Do you mean something like the top line in this example
(which is a minor modification of the example called drums.ly
in the Regression Tests document).

Thank you Mats, that is very close to what I am talking about. The main
differences are that the common time denoter for the rhythm notes is not
needed - essentially this rhythm part should be just another voice on
the drum staff, with the notes resting on the top line of the drum
staff, i.e. the place the crash cymbal currently occupies. How one
denotes a crash cymbal under these circumstances I have no idea, I shall
enquire about this.
Jennifer


\version "2.2.0"
drh = \drums { cymc4.^"crash" hhc16^"h.h." hh \repeat "unfold" 5 
{hhc8 hho hhc8 hh16 hh} hhc4 r4 r2 }
drl = \drums {\repeat "unfold" 3 {bd4 sn8 bd bd4 << bd ss >> } bd8 
tommh tommh bd toml toml bd tomfh16 tomfh }
timb = \drums \repeat "unfold" 2 {timh4 ssh timl8 ssh r timh r4 ssh8 
timl r4 cb8 cb}

\score {
\repeat "volta" 2
<<
\new RhythmicStaff \with {
  \remove "Staff_symbol_engraver"
} {\timb}
\new DrumStaff \with {
drumStyleTable = #timbales-style
\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #2
\override BarLine #'bar-size = #2
} <<
\set Staff.instrument = "timbales"
\timb
>>
\new DrumStaff <<
\set Staff.instrument = "drums"
\new DrumVoice {\stemUp \drh }
\new DrumVoice {\stemDown \drl }
>>
>>
\paper {}
}

Jennifer Clark wrote:
Dear all,
I am now getting confident enough with Lilypond to use it for 
writing scores for larger bands, currently a nine piece jazz band 
for example, and find the software excellent. One area I am not 
entirely confident in is the writing of drum music; the latest 
score I did had the transcribed drums set out note for note (as it 
were), but I was sure this was not the best way to present music to 
a drummer. So I asked one of the good drummers about here for his 
advice, which he gave, and he also showed me many examples of good 
big band drum scores, and some bad ones.

All of this was a great help, and all appears easily doable in 
Lilypond except for one thing: The general rhythm of the dominant 
melodic line in the piece was always written in the space above the 
top line on the drum score, allowing the drummer to see where 
accents might be placed without explicitly writing out the entire 
drum part for him. The notes on this line can be of any duration. 
Based on this information he can do his own thing without needing a 
cluttered drum part, which makes perfect sense.

I tried to achieve this in Lilypond 2.2.5 by adding an extra 
(standard) voice to the DrumStaff, but this ended up with two 
separate staves. Is there any way to achieve this? I also thought 
about redefining a drumkit, but I am not sure if e.g. moving a tom 
to the space above the top line would work since the toms appear 
unable to take on a value greater than a quarter note. Ideally the 
notes should behave like those in a standard voice.

Thanks again for any advice, and advice given in the past, it is 
much appreciated.

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Re: Drum Scoring

[Stan Mulder]

Jennifer Clark wrote:
Sebastiano Vigna wrote:
This is indeed an area where Lilypond would need some improvement... no
matter how I tweaked the various parameters, the drum scores I got were
not very satisfying (even beginners in the class noticed problems).
There are problems with rest positioning, uneven spacing, plus some
other minor things. I had the intention of writing something documenting
the various issues--maybe we could try to write down something.
The point is that drum scores are somehow an adaptation of rhythm to a
pre-existing notation. Notes do not represent pitch, and regularity in
note disposition is much more important than aesthetic consideration, as
we're playing fast and we're playing with four parts of our body 8^).
 

That's interesting, I had no idea that note spacing should be more 
even for drum parts, but it does make sense. I'll certainly let you 
know about the feedback I get from the drums parts I prepare with 
Lilypond. Do you have any links to examples of good drums parts online?

Jennifer

There is a book on drum notation put out by the Percussive Arts Society 
and it is generally agreed that this is the reference book for writing 
drum parts. The book is called "Guide to Standardized Drumset Notation 
by Norman Weinberg" 
. 
Link:  
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966492811/thestevegaddwebs/ref=nosim

This book has been pointed out before in the archives: 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2004-12/msg00143.html

On page 39 he shows the type of notation you are trying to achieve where 
the sax or brass rhythms with articulations are written on a single line 
above the staff. This gives the drummer cues as to where he/she can 
emphasize along with the rest of the ensemble.

I suppose I could scan that section if needed. I'm fairly new to 
Lilypond so I don't know how to do that type of notation.

Stan

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font problem

[Ferenc Wagner]

Hi,

Lily compiled from CVS branch 2_4 a couple of weeks ago
produces a perfect Postscipt file from the following
snippet:

\version "2.4.5"

\header {
title = "A"
}

\score {
\notemode { r4 }
}

However, the PDF looks like this (compacted manually):
<>
Or if the attachment doesn't get through, like
http://tac.ki.iif.hu/problem.png

Notice the ugly clef and the title.

I used the 1.0.12 version of ec-fonts-mftraced.  Living on
Debian Woody has its quirks concerning updmap, but I did my
best.  Any hints where the problem lies?

mftrace: 1.1.5
fontforge: 20041218
potrace: 1.5
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Re: Drum Scoring

[Mats Bengtsson]

Replace the \score{...} in my previous example by
\score {
\repeat "volta" 2
<<
\new DrumStaff <<
\new Voice \with {
  \consists "Pitch_squash_engraver"
  squashedPosition = #4
  \override Rest #'staff-position = #4
} {\stemUp \timb }
\set Staff.instrument = "drums"
\new DrumVoice {\stemDown \drl }
>>
>>
\paper {
  \context{
\DrumStaffContext
\accepts "Voice"
  }
}
and see if that's more to the point. Maybe you want to replace
the #4 with #5, I'm not certain what position you want.
Two tricks are used here:
- Modifying a normal Voice context so that all notes and rests appear
  on the same "pitch".
- Telling LilyPond that you can have a Voice context also within a
  DrumStaff context.
   /Mats
Jennifer Clark wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Do you mean something like the top line in this example
(which is a minor modification of the example called drums.ly
in the Regression Tests document).

Thank you Mats, that is very close to what I am talking about. The main
differences are that the common time denoter for the rhythm notes is not
needed - essentially this rhythm part should be just another voice on
the drum staff, with the notes resting on the top line of the drum
staff, i.e. the place the crash cymbal currently occupies. How one
denotes a crash cymbal under these circumstances I have no idea, I shall
enquire about this.
Jennifer


\version "2.2.0"
drh = \drums { cymc4.^"crash" hhc16^"h.h." hh \repeat "unfold" 5 {hhc8 
hho hhc8 hh16 hh} hhc4 r4 r2 }
drl = \drums {\repeat "unfold" 3 {bd4 sn8 bd bd4 << bd ss >> } bd8 
tommh tommh bd toml toml bd tomfh16 tomfh }
timb = \drums \repeat "unfold" 2 {timh4 ssh timl8 ssh r timh r4 ssh8 
timl r4 cb8 cb}

\score {
\repeat "volta" 2
<<
\new RhythmicStaff \with {
  \remove "Staff_symbol_engraver"
} {\timb}
\new DrumStaff \with {
drumStyleTable = #timbales-style
\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #2
\override BarLine #'bar-size = #2
} <<
\set Staff.instrument = "timbales"
\timb
>>
\new DrumStaff <<
\set Staff.instrument = "drums"
\new DrumVoice {\stemUp \drh }
\new DrumVoice {\stemDown \drl }
>>
>>
\paper {}
}

Jennifer Clark wrote:
Dear all,
I am now getting confident enough with Lilypond to use it for writing 
scores for larger bands, currently a nine piece jazz band for 
example, and find the software excellent. One area I am not entirely 
confident in is the writing of drum music; the latest score I did had 
the transcribed drums set out note for note (as it were), but I was 
sure this was not the best way to present music to a drummer. So I 
asked one of the good drummers about here for his advice, which he 
gave, and he also showed me many examples of good big band drum 
scores, and some bad ones.

All of this was a great help, and all appears easily doable in 
Lilypond except for one thing: The general rhythm of the dominant 
melodic line in the piece was always written in the space above the 
top line on the drum score, allowing the drummer to see where accents 
might be placed without explicitly writing out the entire drum part 
for him. The notes on this line can be of any duration. Based on this 
information he can do his own thing without needing a cluttered drum 
part, which makes perfect sense.

I tried to achieve this in Lilypond 2.2.5 by adding an extra 
(standard) voice to the DrumStaff, but this ended up with two 
separate staves. Is there any way to achieve this? I also thought 
about redefining a drumkit, but I am not sure if e.g. moving a tom to 
the space above the top line would work since the toms appear unable 
to take on a value greater than a quarter note. Ideally the notes 
should behave like those in a standard voice.

Thanks again for any advice, and advice given in the past, it is much 
appreciated.

Jennifer
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Re: Drum Scoring

[Jennifer Clark]

Sebastiano Vigna wrote:
This is indeed an area where Lilypond would need some improvement... no
matter how I tweaked the various parameters, the drum scores I got were
not very satisfying (even beginners in the class noticed problems).
There are problems with rest positioning, uneven spacing, plus some
other minor things. I had the intention of writing something documenting
the various issues--maybe we could try to write down something.
The point is that drum scores are somehow an adaptation of rhythm to a
pre-existing notation. Notes do not represent pitch, and regularity in
note disposition is much more important than aesthetic consideration, as
we're playing fast and we're playing with four parts of our body 8^).
 

That's interesting, I had no idea that note spacing should be more even 
for drum parts, but it does make sense. I'll certainly let you know 
about the feedback I get from the drums parts I prepare with Lilypond. 
Do you have any links to examples of good drums parts online?

Jennifer
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Re: Drum Scoring

[Jennifer Clark]

Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Do you mean something like the top line in this example
(which is a minor modification of the example called drums.ly
in the Regression Tests document).
Thank you Mats, that is very close to what I am talking about. The main
differences are that the common time denoter for the rhythm notes is not
needed - essentially this rhythm part should be just another voice on
the drum staff, with the notes resting on the top line of the drum
staff, i.e. the place the crash cymbal currently occupies. How one
denotes a crash cymbal under these circumstances I have no idea, I shall
enquire about this.
Jennifer


\version "2.2.0"
drh = \drums { cymc4.^"crash" hhc16^"h.h." hh \repeat "unfold" 5 {hhc8 
hho hhc8 hh16 hh} hhc4 r4 r2 }
drl = \drums {\repeat "unfold" 3 {bd4 sn8 bd bd4 << bd ss >> } bd8 
tommh tommh bd toml toml bd tomfh16 tomfh }
timb = \drums \repeat "unfold" 2 {timh4 ssh timl8 ssh r timh r4 ssh8 
timl r4 cb8 cb}

\score {
\repeat "volta" 2
<<
\new RhythmicStaff \with {
  \remove "Staff_symbol_engraver"
} {\timb}
\new DrumStaff \with {
drumStyleTable = #timbales-style
\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #2
\override BarLine #'bar-size = #2
} <<
\set Staff.instrument = "timbales"
\timb
>>
\new DrumStaff <<
\set Staff.instrument = "drums"
\new DrumVoice {\stemUp \drh }
\new DrumVoice {\stemDown \drl }
>>
>>
\paper {}
}

Jennifer Clark wrote:
Dear all,
I am now getting confident enough with Lilypond to use it for writing 
scores for larger bands, currently a nine piece jazz band for 
example, and find the software excellent. One area I am not entirely 
confident in is the writing of drum music; the latest score I did had 
the transcribed drums set out note for note (as it were), but I was 
sure this was not the best way to present music to a drummer. So I 
asked one of the good drummers about here for his advice, which he 
gave, and he also showed me many examples of good big band drum 
scores, and some bad ones.

All of this was a great help, and all appears easily doable in 
Lilypond except for one thing: The general rhythm of the dominant 
melodic line in the piece was always written in the space above the 
top line on the drum score, allowing the drummer to see where accents 
might be placed without explicitly writing out the entire drum part 
for him. The notes on this line can be of any duration. Based on this 
information he can do his own thing without needing a cluttered drum 
part, which makes perfect sense.

I tried to achieve this in Lilypond 2.2.5 by adding an extra 
(standard) voice to the DrumStaff, but this ended up with two 
separate staves. Is there any way to achieve this? I also thought 
about redefining a drumkit, but I am not sure if e.g. moving a tom to 
the space above the top line would work since the toms appear unable 
to take on a value greater than a quarter note. Ideally the notes 
should behave like those in a standard voice.

Thanks again for any advice, and advice given in the past, it is much 
appreciated.

Jennifer
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Re: Drum Scoring

[Mats Bengtsson]

Do you mean something like the top line in this example
(which is a minor modification of the example called drums.ly
in the Regression Tests document).
   /Mats
\version "2.2.0"
drh = \drums { cymc4.^"crash" hhc16^"h.h." hh \repeat "unfold" 5 {hhc8 
hho hhc8 hh16 hh} hhc4 r4 r2 }
drl = \drums {\repeat "unfold" 3 {bd4 sn8 bd bd4 << bd ss >> } bd8 tommh 
tommh bd toml toml bd tomfh16 tomfh }
timb = \drums \repeat "unfold" 2 {timh4 ssh timl8 ssh r timh r4 ssh8 
timl r4 cb8 cb}

\score {
\repeat "volta" 2
<<
\new RhythmicStaff \with {
  \remove "Staff_symbol_engraver"
} {\timb}
\new DrumStaff \with {
drumStyleTable = #timbales-style
\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #2
\override BarLine #'bar-size = #2
} <<
\set Staff.instrument = "timbales"
\timb
>>
\new DrumStaff <<
\set Staff.instrument = "drums"
\new DrumVoice {\stemUp \drh }
\new DrumVoice {\stemDown \drl }
>>
>>
\paper {}
}

Jennifer Clark wrote:
Dear all,
I am now getting confident enough with Lilypond to use it for writing 
scores for larger bands, currently a nine piece jazz band for example, 
and find the software excellent. One area I am not entirely confident in 
is the writing of drum music; the latest score I did had the transcribed 
drums set out note for note (as it were), but I was sure this was not 
the best way to present music to a drummer. So I asked one of the good 
drummers about here for his advice, which he gave, and he also showed me 
many examples of good big band drum scores, and some bad ones.

All of this was a great help, and all appears easily doable in Lilypond 
except for one thing: The general rhythm of the dominant melodic line in 
the piece was always written in the space above the top line on the drum 
score, allowing the drummer to see where accents might be placed without 
explicitly writing out the entire drum part for him. The notes on this 
line can be of any duration. Based on this information he can do his own 
thing without needing a cluttered drum part, which makes perfect sense.

I tried to achieve this in Lilypond 2.2.5 by adding an extra (standard) 
voice to the DrumStaff, but this ended up with two separate staves. Is 
there any way to achieve this? I also thought about redefining a 
drumkit, but I am not sure if e.g. moving a tom to the space above the 
top line would work since the toms appear unable to take on a value 
greater than a quarter note. Ideally the notes should behave like those 
in a standard voice.

Thanks again for any advice, and advice given in the past, it is much 
appreciated.

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Re: snap (bartok) pizz

[Mats Bengtsson]

Hint: search for "padding" in the mailing list archives or look
at 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Common-tweaks.html#Common-tweaks

  /Mats
dax2 wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:18:57 +0200
Mats wrote:

To avoid confusion, I can tell you both that the function
make-circle-stencil was introduced in version 2.5.19 and is
not available in any stable version (which probably is what
Sean has installed).

It works with a little change: make_circle_stencil should
have only two parameters (in 2.5.19) I would like to know how I
get the tempo-indication away from the staff.
This has been mentioned before, so I will look it up. I like
realistic examples so I will post it again when I find out how to
make a little space for tempo and character (Lento).
\version "2.5.19"
#(def-markup-command (bartokPizz layout props) ()
  (ly:stencil-add
  ;; (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 )
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )))
% -- 
% Han-Wen Nienhuys -

vlcello = {
\clef bass
\key a \major
\time 3/4
\tempo 4 = 62
   f8^\markup {Lento}-\markup{\bartokPizz }_\markup{(pizz)}
   g8^\markup { \bartokPizz }
   c'8^\markup { \bartokPizz }
   g,8^\markup { \bartokPizz }
   c16
   bes16
   e'8
   fis'4\ff^\markup { \bartokPizz }
   c,2^\markup { \bartokPizz }
   \bar "|."
}
\score {
   \new Staff { \vlcello }
}
\layout { raggedright = ##t }




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Re: latin1.enc

[Mats Bengtsson]

Rerun the installation program setup.exe and make sure that
version 2.4.3 of the lilypond package is installed (it should be
by default when you rerun setup.exe, you probably happened to click
twice when you selected the package the first time you installed, which
gives you an older version).
   /Mats
Jackman wrote:
I am not familiar with cygwin nor lilypond, so I do not know how to
troubleshoot this output.  I appreciate any help available.  I will
help on my end the best I can.  Thanks.
Andrew Jackman.
KD7NYQ.
See Attached File.

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[Fwd: Re: Spacing in Lyrics]

[Mats Bengtsson]

FYI!
 Original Message 
Hi Mats.
If you provide a small example file, it's much easier to provide
an answer. How do you write these characters in the input file?
If you specify them using the TeX codes such as "\k a", then
LilyPond has no chance to calculate the correct metrics. However,
if you input them into the file using latin2 encoding (or whatever
character set is relevant), use
\header{
   ...
   inputencoding = "latin2"
}
I usually use UTF-8 encoding for everything, but since I could not get
lilypond to work with that, I used the TeX way to do it, i.e. \k{} etc. So
I'll try to figure out an eight-bit encoding for that polish stuff. (I don't
have any idea of polish, I just typeset it.)
Note that this only applies to version 2.2. Version 2.4 is limited to
latin1 whereasthe latest development versions and the upcoming stable
2.6 series work with UTF8 which solves all these problems.
I have 2.2.x and 2.5.20 installed, and I realized that the TeX backend is
not working properly in 2.5.20. Since ecrm ist not the font I intend to use,
I have some trouble with 2.5.x. My favourite font has all the required
glyphs only as a TeX virtual font (vf), so pango/fontconfig does not like
it. TeX's fontinst does a woderful job at creating all those glyhps from
unaccented letters and separate accents. Much better than FontForge. So I'm
tempted to continue using the TeX backend withits virtual fonts, i.e. using
2.2.
thanks for your answer
Stefan
PS: I'm sorry that I'm not able to reply to the ML or to provide a proper
example file of my problem; my main computer's network interface is broken,
so I'm forced to use webmail right now. If you think that this mail is worth
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Re: Default font

[Mats Bengtsson]

Default font for what? Lyrics, dynamics, music symbols and textual
indications are all typeset using different fonts. My answer to
your question from April 14 should provide enough hints for you to
find the answer yourself, though.
   /Mats
Fairchild wrote:
Can't find the name of the default font for v 2.4.3, its file name, or 
where it lives.  Anybody know?


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Re: still wrong fonts

[Sean Reed]

hi han-wen,
that did the trick.
thanks!
-sean

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 25.04.2005, at 21:25, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Hi,
I'm onto it, but in the meantime, do this:
  cd $HOME
  mkdir .fonts
  ln -s  /sw/share/lilypond/2.5.20/fonts/type1/feta-alphabet* .fonts

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Re: Drum Scoring

[Sebastiano Vigna]

On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 20:06 +0100, Jennifer Clark wrote:

> is the writing of drum music; the latest score I did had the transcribed 
> drums set out note for note (as it were), but I was sure this was not 
> the best way to present music to a drummer. So I asked one of the good 

This is indeed an area where Lilypond would need some improvement... no
matter how I tweaked the various parameters, the drum scores I got were
not very satisfying (even beginners in the class noticed problems).
There are problems with rest positioning, uneven spacing, plus some
other minor things. I had the intention of writing something documenting
the various issues--maybe we could try to write down something.

The point is that drum scores are somehow an adaptation of rhythm to a
pre-existing notation. Notes do not represent pitch, and regularity in
note disposition is much more important than aesthetic consideration, as
we're playing fast and we're playing with four parts of our body 8^).

Ciao,

seba


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