Re: Broken MIDIs with 2.7.5 on MacOSX

[David Fedoruk]

> 
> Is it a known bug that 2.7.5 creates broken MIDIs, at least on OSX?
> (I used 2.6.3 before, there it works.)
> I attached a sample.
>

I can confirm this. None of the MIDI files lilypond are usealbe from
2.7.x They will not play in any aplication I have. Just to try
something else, I imported the file into GarageBand. There is nothing
in the file. No MIDI at all.

cheerrs,

David


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Re: \relative

[Graham Percival]

On 18-Aug-05, at 10:59 AM, Stephan Moss wrote:


\relative c {
block of music
}
{
2nd block of music
}

Is 2nd block still in relative mode?


No.  The relative mode ends with the }.

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Re: grace notes grumble

[Aaron Mehl]

Yeah I just looked at slurs and didn't see a link at
the bottom of the page to phrasing slurs

but now I see it.
thanks
:{)>
Aaron

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> 
> On 18-Aug-05, at 6:25 AM, Aaron Mehl wrote:
> > will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see
> in
> > the doc for the latest development version, I hope
> > they still exist.
> 
> Umm... 6.4.3?  It's the section right after slurs.
> 
> - Graham
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\relative

[Stephan Moss]

Do folks ever use a mix of \relative  and absolute when entering music?
If you have:

\relative c {
block of music
}
{
2nd block of music
}

Is 2nd block still in relative mode?

How would you cancel relative mode?

Thanks

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Re: Suddenly no \break (lilypond-book)

[Wolfgang Mechsner]

Thank you very much, it works!
Wolfgang

On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 16:50 +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> I cannot repeat your problem here, but that's probably since
> you didn't include the header of your LaTeX file. My guess is
> that you have been hit by the problem discussed in
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-08/msg00017.html
> and some other emails to be found in the list archives.
> In that case, the workaround is to add
> 
> \newcommand{\betweenLilyPondSystem}[1]{\linebreak}
> 
> in the preamble of your document.
> 
> /Mats
> 
> Wolfgang Mechsner wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > suddenly, the \break doesn't work with lilypond-book (version 2.6.3): 
> > Any idea?
> > Wolfgang
> > 
> > #
> > \begin[staffsize=26]{lilypond}
> > emptymusic = {
> >\repeat unfold 2 % Change this for more lines.
> >{ s1 \break } 
> >\bar "|."
> >  }
> >  \new Score \with {
> >\override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
> >defaultBarType = #""
> >\remove Bar_number_engraver
> >  } 
> > <<
> >\context Staff \emptymusic
> >  >>
> > \end{lilypond}
> > 
> > 
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Re: grace notes grumble

[Graham Percival]

On 18-Aug-05, at 6:25 AM, Aaron Mehl wrote:

will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see in
the doc for the latest development version, I hope
they still exist.


Umm... 6.4.3?  It's the section right after slurs.

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Re: Suddenly no \break (lilypond-book)

[Mats Bengtsson]

I cannot repeat your problem here, but that's probably since
you didn't include the header of your LaTeX file. My guess is
that you have been hit by the problem discussed in
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-08/msg00017.html
and some other emails to be found in the list archives.
In that case, the workaround is to add

\newcommand{\betweenLilyPondSystem}[1]{\linebreak}

in the preamble of your document.

   /Mats

Wolfgang Mechsner wrote:

Hi,

suddenly, the \break doesn't work with lilypond-book (version 2.6.3): 
Any idea?

Wolfgang

#
\begin[staffsize=26]{lilypond}
emptymusic = {
   \repeat unfold 2 % Change this for more lines.
   { s1 \break } 
   \bar "|."

 }
 \new Score \with {
   \override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
   defaultBarType = #""
   \remove Bar_number_engraver
 } 
<<

   \context Staff \emptymusic
 >>
\end{lilypond}


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Re: portato

[Mats Bengtsson]

It seems that a few LaTeX command has survived in the manual by
mistake. The proper syntax is

c-_

  /Mats

Mehmet Okonsar wrote:

I couldn't figure this out..
Ver.2.7.4
The manual gives: -\_.. it doesn't work..

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Re: Semi-newbie question about lyrics

[Mats Bengtsson]

Christ van Willegen wrote:

Hi,

I've been searching the docs, but can't figure out why this won't work...

Here's a faily minimal sample of what I'm trying to do.



I would actually recommend you to explicitly write out the \score{...}.
Also, you are exploiting some more features of LilyPond that you
probably don't realize yourself, namely that contexts are created
automatically.

For example, as soon as you include a command like \key in


<<
{
\key bes \major

> ...
LilyPond will create a Staff context (corresponding to a printed stave)
to be able to handle the command. So your score block
is actually equivalent to

\score{
  <<
\new Staff {
  \key bes \major
  ...
  <<
\chordsOne \\
\notesOne
\addlyrics \stanzaOne
  >>
}
  >>
}

In other words, you try to include both the chords and the lyrics
within the stave, which is impossible since a Staff in LilyPond
terminology only can contain notes (I realize some people would
find it more intuitive to use "stave" for the combination of
music and lyrics).

What you probably want is (haven't tested with your code, though)

\score{
  \transpose c bes <<
\new ChordNames {\chordsOne }
\new Staff {\key ... \notesOne}
\addlyrics \stanzaOne
  >>
}

I also recommend you to learn to use \lyricsto instead of \addlyrics as
soon as possible, since \addlyrics is limited to scores with a single
melody.

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Re: LilyPond -> Midi? [and: Python scripts in Windows native 2.6 version]

[John Mandereau]

Aaron Morse wrote: 
> On 8/17/05, John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please always tell which platform and which LilyPond version you
> use! 
> Sorry, I completely forgot. I believe I have LilyPond 2.6.3 for
> Windows on a system running Windows XP Home (Dell Dimension 2400, 256
> MB RAM, etc.)

This is important information: goodies like midi2ly, convert-ly, and
other converters are Python scripts, so you have to have Python
installed to run them.

I suppose of course that you use 2.6.3 Windows native version (it's
possible to compile it on Cygwin...)

You can get Python 2.4.1 for Windows at http://python.org.


> > > My second question is what syntax I would use running the midi2ly if I
> > > have a midi file I want to transfer to a lilypond file. I didn't find
> > > anything about this in the documentation. . .
> > But it is in the documentation: just see
> > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Invoking-midi2ly.html
> > 

For more convenient use, add
\usr\bin\
to your PATH, and add extensions .PY and .PYC in PATHEXT;
you can do this in Control Panel -> System -> Advanced
-> Environment variables -> System variables

Open a command line (cmd32.exe) and run:

midi2ly your-midi-file.mid

I have tried this... and :-( got this error message:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/midi2ly", line 42, in ?
import midi
ImportError: No module named midi

It's a bug: on my Linux system there is exactly the same.
Here's a general fix, which I'll submit to bug-lilypond.
Open midi2ly.py and edit these lines:

libdir = '/usr/lib/lilypond/2.6.3'
if not os.path.isdir (libdir):
   libdir = '/usr/lib/lilypond/2.6.3'
sys.path.insert (0, os.path.join (libdir, 'python'))

replace 'lib' with 'share' and save the file.

The last problem is, it won't work on Win XP because there is no python
directory in usr/share/lilypond/2.6.3... and "native Windows" Python may
(?) rather understand Windows-style paths. But you can still follow
these tips: you'll be able then to run convert-ly, and maybe other
Python scripts.

There are here potential improvements to Windows native LilyPond:
- Python could be mentioned as a dependency
- The installation program could set the environments variables like I
explained above
- Python libs (in usr/share/lilypond/2.6.3) could be compiled into
Windows native version too
If it was done, the converters (and even maybe lilypond-book? for those
who have TeX installed) would work as explained in the documentation :-)

This can certainly be sponsored. (but don't ask me, I'm no more on Windows)

Please keep this discussion on the list (Cc all messages to
lilypond-user@gnu.org), it may be interesting for other users.

I have forgotten something in your .ly example below: if you want both
PDF and MIDI output, you must have both \layout {} and \midi {} blocks
in the \score block: 
> > >
> > > \include "horn.ly"
> > > \include "trumpet.ly"
> > > \include "drums.ly"
> > > \include "bass-tbone.ly"
> > > \header {
> > >   title = "Ea"
> > >   instrument = "Trumpet in C, Horn in F, Bass Trombone, Percussion"
> > >   composer = "Aaron Morse"
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > \score {
> > > <<
> > > \new Staff \trumpet
> > > \new Staff \horn
> > > \new Staff \tbone
> > > \new Staff \percussion

\layout {}

> > \midi {}
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > > How would I specify for it to create a midi sound file of the piece?
> > It is explained:
> > see 
> > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Creating-MIDI-files.html
> > and see above how I have modified your input. You may add a tempo
> > specification in the \midi block.
> > 

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portato

[Mehmet Okonsar]

I couldn't figure this out..
Ver.2.7.4
The manual gives: -\_.. it doesn't work..

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Semi-newbie question about lyrics

[Christ van Willegen]

Hi,

I've been searching the docs, but can't figure out why this won't work...

Here's a faily minimal sample of what I'm trying to do.

\version "2.6.3"

chordsOne = { \chords {
c2 c/e f g4:sus4 g
c1 es:dim
f c2 a:7
d1:m as:dim
c/g
}
}

notesOne = {
R1*2
c4~ c16 b c b d8 c b a | c4 r16 b c b d8 c b a |
c4 r16 b c b d8 c b a | g4~ g16 f e f g4 r |
f4~ f16 e f e g8 f e d | f4 r16 e f e g8 f e d |
e4 r16 a, c d f8 e d c |
}

stanzaOne = { \lyrics {
\set stanza = "1. "
She may be the face I can't for- get, the trace 
of plea- sure or
re- gret, may- be my trea- sure or the price I have to pay. She may be
the song that sum- mer sings, may- be the chill that au- tumn brings,
may- be a hun- dred diff- 'rent
}
}


<<
{
\key bes \major
\transpose c bes
{
\relative c'
{
\repeat volta 2
<<
\chordsOne \\
\notesOne
\addlyrics \stanzaOne
%\addlyrics \stanzaTwo
>>
}
}
}
>>

Lilypond responds with this:
She2.ly:38:24: error: syntax error, unexpected \addlyrics

\addlyrics \stanzaOne

How am I supposed to add the lyrics to the music in this case?

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Re: compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)

[Aaron Mehl]

I was thinking, why don't we just send the challenge
to the maintainers of each of those packages.

Is there a way to do it as a group. I mean not Laura
Conrad, Hans, Aaron etc but the lilypond users or
maybe send it back to the original person who did the
first 6?

Aaron

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> > "AM" == Aaron Mehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> AM> They compare gui notation packages with
> lily?
> AM> What about a
> mup/abcm2ps/guido/musictex/philipswriter
> AM> etc comparison to lilypond.
> 
> I'd be interested in that, too.  But so far not
> interested enough to
> actually type in the abc or musixtex.  
> 
> The other thing I'd be interested in is for each
> system, seeing both
> the "first pass", where you get what the system
> gives you with no
> tweaking, right after you enter the notes right, and
> the "best effort"
> where someone has fixed everything up.  I would
> expect lily to do
> really well on the "first pass" comparison.
> 
> 
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Re: grace notes grumble

[Mats Bengtsson]

Aaron Mehl wrote:

Yes indeed,
what would be nice would be another type of slur for
melismata. or maybe have a slur in the lyrics block,
that would make it an explicit slur for lyrics.


One option is to use phrasing slurs, \(...\), for slurs that
shouldn't indicate a melisma and ordinary slurs, (...), for
melisma.

Note that the current default behaviour in LilyPond corresponds to
the typesetting practice used in most printed music.

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Re: grace notes grumble

[Aaron Mehl]

> Note that the current default behaviour in LilyPond
> corresponds to
> the typesetting practice used in most printed music.
Yeah I know

I will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see in
the doc for the latest development version, I hope
they still exist.
Aaron
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Re: compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)

[Laura Conrad]

> "AM" == Aaron Mehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

AM> They compare gui notation packages with lily?
AM> What about a mup/abcm2ps/guido/musictex/philipswriter
AM> etc comparison to lilypond.

I'd be interested in that, too.  But so far not interested enough to
actually type in the abc or musixtex.  

The other thing I'd be interested in is for each system, seeing both
the "first pass", where you get what the system gives you with no
tweaking, right after you enter the notes right, and the "best effort"
where someone has fixed everything up.  I would expect lily to do
really well on the "first pass" comparison.


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Suddenly no \break (lilypond-book)

[Wolfgang Mechsner]

Hi,

suddenly, the \break doesn't work with lilypond-book (version 2.6.3): 
Any idea?
Wolfgang

#
\begin[staffsize=26]{lilypond}
emptymusic = {
   \repeat unfold 2 % Change this for more lines.
   { s1 \break } 
   \bar "|."
 }
 \new Score \with {
   \override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
   defaultBarType = #""
   \remove Bar_number_engraver
 } 
<<
   \context Staff \emptymusic
 >>
\end{lilypond}


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Re: grace notes grumble

[Erik Sandberg]

On Thursday 18 August 2005 11.36, Aaron Mehl wrote:
> I forgot to mention the version I am using if it
> matters:GNU LilyPond 2.7.3
>
> Also I didn't post the source since the lyrics are in
> hebrew, if it is relevent I can output a png.

It's enough for us to see _an_ example that demonstrates it, it doens't need 
to be your real-life example exactly (i.e., replacing your lyrics with "foo" 
and "bar" is perfectly fine)

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Broken MIDIs with 2.7.5 on MacOSX

[fiëé visuëlle]

lomir.mid
Description: Binary data

Hi there!

Is it a known bug that 2.7.5 creates broken MIDIs, at least on OSX?
(I used 2.6.3 before, there it works.)
I attached a sample.

Greetlings from Lake Constance
---
fiëé visuëlle
Henning Hraban Ramm
http://www.fiee.net
http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/

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compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)

[Aaron Mehl]

Well,

I looked at the comparison and my first reaction is
that this is not a fair deal.

They compare gui notation packages with lily?
What about a mup/abcm2ps/guido/musictex/philipswriter
etc comparison to lilypond.

Then we are comparing apples to apples. 

BTW some of the outputs in the pdf comparisons were
stinky.  LilyPond really does look better then most of
those compared.

that said no word on comparing to SCORE..

Aaron

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> writes:
> 
> JN> Hans Aberg writes:
> >> If somebody is interest in a comparison, one
> has had a thread in the
> >> Usenet newsgroup rec.music.theory with the
> same music piece being
> >> typeset in seven different programs,
> including LilyPond.
> 
> JN> Yes.  Unfortunately, an older version of
> LilyPond was used.
> 
> 2.4.5 isn't that old.  Some of us haven't really
> managed a working
> version of 2.6 yet.  And most of what good things
> I've heard about 2.6
> from the people who have one wouldn't really affect
> this score.  That
> being said, of course it would have been better if
> the poster had
> posted the source so that someone with a newer
> version could have
> easily converted it (if it's something the converter
> bothers with) and
> demonstrated the latest and greatest.
> 
> For those who just want to see the pdf's and not
> read the whole
> thread, I've posted links to them on my blog
> .
> 
> 
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Re: default font

[fiëé visuëlle]

Am 2005-08-17 um 18:03 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

actually the links helped me a lot. navigating around the .pdf was  
quite a pain in the a**, so i overlooked quite a lot of the crucial  
infos.


But did you manage to set any font? How?

I found the hint that fontconfig sees from OSX's fonts only the first  
style. That should read: Only single-style TrueType fonts.
It doesn't seem possible to use TT fonts in suitcases, OTF fonts, PS  
fonts without screen font, some other...


Working are only single-style TT/dfonts like Papyrus, Zapfino, Impact

If I try to use some multi-style font, I always get Verdana (WTF!?  
see below).


I tried this approach: (It's not in the manual, I found it in some  
source file or mail.)


\paper  {
  myStaffSize = #20

  #(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree "Times"
  "Helvetica"
  "Courier"
   (/ myStaffSize 20)
   ))
}

[one hour later]

I just dived into fontconfig configuration (http://fontconfig.org/ 
fontconfig-user.html)...


- Century Schoolbook is nowhere defined.

- Verdana is defined as fallback for sans-serif (but also serif fonts  
fall back to Verdana!)


- LilyPond's config sets Verdana as Alias for Helvetica and Arial.  
WHY? Verdana is a screen font! (aliasing Arial and Helvetica would be  
ok)


- after creating my own .fonts.conf, my additional fonts folders  
(e.g. TeX) are searched (i.e. a cache file is created), but the fonts  
are still never used: Does LilyPond really make use of fontconfig  
settings?


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Re: grace notes grumble

[Aaron Mehl]

Yes indeed,
what would be nice would be another type of slur for
melismata. or maybe have a slur in the lyrics block,
that would make it an explicit slur for lyrics.

Aaron 
> indeed, but it defeats the purpose of the automatic
> melismata, which is 
> that you don't have to worry about this kind of
> stuff.
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Re: grace notes grumble

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

Graham Percival wrote:
You can switch off the slur melismata. Check the manual for details. 
OF course, that doesn't help if the rest of the piece does have slurs.



Well, you can just switch it on again, right?  Isn't that what

\set ignoreMelismata = ##t
\unset ignoreMelismata

is for?


indeed, but it defeats the purpose of the automatic melismata, which is 
that you don't have to worry about this kind of stuff.



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Re: ec-fonts-mftraced mess

[Mats Bengtsson]

Bug reports on Debian packages should go to debian.
Have you tried the debian package of ec-fonts-mftraced
available an www.lilypond.org? Also, if you search the
mailing list archives, you will find a number of emails
from Debian users who have managed to solve the same
problem successfully.

   /Mats

Allar Õunapuu wrote:

Hello
I have found, that under Debian testing there is
problem with package clled ec-fonts-mftraced.
I have version 1.0.10a-1 installed. This is the part
of official apt-repository. 
There is a bug - output of Lilypond files ahve very

ugly fonts for Titles or markup-texts.
I tried to install other version from
http://tac.ki.iif.hu/debian/ (version 1.0.12-0.0wf1)
But it messed up the GhostScript. Lilypond was unable
to output any gs- or pdf-files. I tried to build my
own version of it by apt-build, but there was just
error about not founding some files which needed to be
removed.
I switched back to original version and ugly fonts.
How long it will take to fix this problem under
official Debian testing?
I can override the font-problems with 
title = \markup { \override #'(font-name . "csss17") {

\bold {Title himself}}}
but it would be much easier to write just title=title
himself

Allar

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Re: ec-fonts-mftraced mess

[Graham Percival]

On 18-Aug-05, at 3:35 AM, Allar Õunapuu wrote:


How long it will take to fix this problem under
official Debian testing?


You'll have to ask Debian (or more precisely, the Debian
package maintainer) about that.  Have you tried using
the Lilypond general linux installer from our website?
It should work regardless of the state of Debian packages.

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Re: grace notes grumble

[Graham Percival]

On 18-Aug-05, at 3:00 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Aaron Mehl wrote:



indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes
are too short to sing a syllable on.

 I was hoping that was the answer I would get.
I am notating folk songs where there is indeed such
behaviour, i.e. the singer sings a syllable on a grace


You can switch off the slur melismata. Check the manual for details. 
OF course, that doesn't help if the rest of the piece does have slurs.


Well, you can just switch it on again, right?  Isn't that what

\set ignoreMelismata = ##t
\unset ignoreMelismata

is for?

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ec-fonts-mftraced mess

[Allar Õunapuu]

Hello
I have found, that under Debian testing there is
problem with package clled ec-fonts-mftraced.
I have version 1.0.10a-1 installed. This is the part
of official apt-repository. 
There is a bug - output of Lilypond files ahve very
ugly fonts for Titles or markup-texts.
I tried to install other version from
http://tac.ki.iif.hu/debian/ (version 1.0.12-0.0wf1)
But it messed up the GhostScript. Lilypond was unable
to output any gs- or pdf-files. I tried to build my
own version of it by apt-build, but there was just
error about not founding some files which needed to be
removed.
I switched back to original version and ugly fonts.
How long it will take to fix this problem under
official Debian testing?
I can override the font-problems with 
title = \markup { \override #'(font-name . "csss17") {
\bold {Title himself}}}
but it would be much easier to write just title=title
himself

Allar

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Re: grace notes grumble

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

Aaron Mehl wrote:
 


indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes
are too short to sing 
a syllable on.


 I was hoping that was the answer I would get.
I am notating folk songs where there is indeed such
behaviour, i.e. the singer sings a syllable on a grace


You can switch off the slur melismata. Check the manual for details. OF 
course, that doesn't help if the rest of the piece does have slurs.


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Re: Multiple Rehearsal Marks

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

Will Oram wrote:
Ooooh, how aggrevating! Between what I originally had and the reduced 
score presented here, I must've run lily on two or three intermediate 
steps to make sure the bug was still appearing. Yet, the version I 
submitted works for me too. Sounds like a heisenbug.


OK, let me start fresh. I can confirm that this code does exactly what I 
have already described. If it works for you, God hates me.


Don't worry.  God is too busy frolicking with Maria and a couple of 
frisky angels.  I fixed this in CVS.


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Re: grace notes grumble

[Aaron Mehl]

Hi again

hmn...
> >
> > g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2
> > ya-leh
> >

What exactly is the slur here telling lilypond?

slur+lyric=?
It is obvious now that indeed the grace note is not
the issue, but the slur certainly is. The proof is
once I remove the slur all is well. Maybe I should use
a differnt slur, I wonder if \( still exists.

I will see if this helps.

Aaron

> > with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the
next beat
> 
> This has nothing to do with grace notes; this is the
> default
> behavior of lyrics.  To change this, see 7.3.5
> Flexibility
> in alignment  in lily 2.7.  -- I'm pretty certain
> that this is
> something that's new to 2.7.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Graham
> 
> 





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Re: Percent repeat sign

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

Claus Wilke wrote:

[percent repeats without body]


as Mats pointed, it is of course possible to get this, just by putting 
the last measure of the previous material in the \repeat. Of course, 
then you can't do


   \fragment
   \repeat "percent" 4 { \skip 1 }
   \otherFragment
   \repeat "percent" 4 { \skip 1 }

to easily repeat the last measure of an arbitrary fragment.

Maybe I should have started with this question, but what do you need the 
notation for?


If Mats' trick serves you, then it's ok.  Otherwise please let me know, 
then I will go ahead with adding the sponsored feature.


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Re: grace notes grumble

[Aaron Mehl]

 
> indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes
> are too short to sing 
> a syllable on.
 I was hoping that was the answer I would get.
I am notating folk songs where there is indeed such
behaviour, i.e. the singer sings a syllable on a grace
note. Since they aren't trained musicians, I can't
force them to follow the rules, and since I am
notating performance, I need to notate the syllable on
the grace. However the problem isn't here the grace
but the slur. As long as I don't use a slur things
line up a ok.

I will look at the other posts to see if they offer a
solution.

I forgot to mention the version I am using if it
matters:GNU LilyPond 2.7.3

Also I didn't post the source since the lyrics are in
hebrew, if it is relevent I can output a png.

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Re: grace notes grumble

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

Graham Percival wrote:


On 17-Aug-05, at 10:57 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote:


The first case is as follows:

g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2
ya-leh

with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the
next beat



This has nothing to do with grace notes; this is the default
behavior of lyrics.  



indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes are too short to sing 
a syllable on.


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cvs key-change end of line bug

[Graham Percival]

You'll probably notice this before 2.7.6 is released, but just in case, 
current

cvs has a problem with a key-change occuring at the end of the line:
it leaves space for the key change before the final bar line, then 
prints

the key change after the final bar line (but still on the staff).

Erik -- we don't need this in the bugs database.  Unless this problem 
is still

there when .6 is released.  :)


\version "2.7.6"
{
\repeat unfold 8 {c''4 c'' c'' c'' }
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Re: grace notes grumble

[Graham Percival]

On 17-Aug-05, at 10:57 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote:


The first case is as follows:

g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2
ya-leh

with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the
next beat


This has nothing to do with grace notes; this is the default
behavior of lyrics.  To change this, see 7.3.5 Flexibility
in alignment  in lily 2.7.  -- I'm pretty certain that this is
something that's new to 2.7.

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Re: Percent repeat sign

[Mats Bengtsson]

Do you want the percent signs already from the firs measure of the
piece? Otherwise, just do
\repeat percent 5 { previous measure }
Isn't this what you actually want to describe anyway? I don't understand
what you intend to use it for otherwise.
Example, a C major scaled followed by 4 bars of repeat signs can be
obtained by
c d e f \repeat percent 5 {g a b c}

  /Mats


Claus Wilke wrote:

Hello,

is it possible to directly engrave percent repeat signs? As far as I 
understand, the percent repeat mechanism always first engraves something 
(notes, rests, etc.), and then engraves bars with repeat signs. I.e., if I do

\repeat "percent" 4 { r1 }
I get one bar with a rest, and then three bars with the percent sign. However, 
I would like to have four bars with the percent sign, and no bar with the 
rest. Is there any way to do it?


FYI, I am still on lilipond 2.2, so any answer that works with this version 
would be appreciated.


Thanks a lot for an otherwise great program!

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Re: grace notes grumble

[Erik Sandberg]

On Thursday 18 August 2005 07.57, Aaron Mehl wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am having some challenges getting grace notes to do
> what I intended, with lyrics and also in combination.
>
>
> The first case is as follows:
>
>  g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2
> ya-leh

Please give full snippets of code, including a \version statement. I extended 
your example to a compilable snippet, and it works as expected:

\version "2.6.0"
<<
\context Voice=A
{g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2 }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto A {ya--leh }
>>

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