Re: text below staff ouch!
but now why can't I use word wrap and justify?
I don't usually read this list on the Web, I just read the mail that
the list sends me -- and at this point I have lost track of your
original post to the list.
My mail client is plain-text only (Latin-1). Can you post a message
containing a \markup command *without* word-wrap justify which gets the
character-order right, and then, secondly, the \markup command *with*
word-wrap justify, so that I can look at it?
You don't have to use the actual characters in the two \markup examples.
You could just use ascii characters ABC...; it would still show me
the structure of the command you're using.
Thanks for your patience...
-- Tom
**
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Aaron Mehl wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aaron Mehl wrote:
but actually for each word the letters are in the
correct order but the words themselves go left to
right instead of right to left.
With automatic text reversal, I would expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
ENO OWT EERHT
exactly
which is what it does once I removed the
justification and wordwrapping
But, with a pair of quote-marks added, I would
expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
EERHT OWT ENO
bravo!
In the first case, \markup handles 3 arguments, one
after the other.
In the second case, \markup handles one single
argument.
but now why can't I use word wrap and justify?
maybe I need some escape charactor?
Thanks so far,
Aaron
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Re: Output other than PDF
On 24/8/05, Trevor Baca wrote: On 8/20/05, Bec and John Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brett, A more GUI-based solution is to output to PDF as normal, then just Save as... from Preview.app as a PNG. An even more Mac-ish GUI-ish solution is to output to pdf as normal, open the pdf in Preview, and then avail yourself of the magic shift-command-3 and shift-command-4 commands in MacOS. Both key combinations are available in any application and let you take a picture of either your entire desktop or a user-definable region, respectively. Obviously this isn't good for getting pngs of entire *pages* of music; but if you're wanting to crop a small snippet of music (say for a webpage or to send to the user list) then shift-command-4 is ideal. Actually, my reason for wanting PNG output was in order to work with snippets rather than entire pages, but also to take advantage of the fact that Lilypond lets you specify the resolution of the PNG image - and I'm after high quality images to use in other documents. PDF was less than ideal, since the resolution of any cut and paste or screenshot was not up to what I wanted. Similarly, resaving a PDF as a PNG didn't produce an image that had the resolution I wanted. Brett ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text below staff ouch!
Did you try \justify-string or \wordwrap-string?
See the example called markup-word-wrap.ly in the Regression
Test document for version 2.7 to see what the different
word wrapping commands do (though not for Hebrew).
/Mats
Aaron Mehl wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aaron Mehl wrote:
but actually for each word the letters are in the
correct order but the words themselves go left to
right instead of right to left.
With automatic text reversal, I would expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
ENO OWT EERHT
exactly
which is what it does once I removed the
justification and wordwrapping
But, with a pair of quote-marks added, I would
expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
EERHT OWT ENO
bravo!
In the first case, \markup handles 3 arguments, one
after the other.
In the second case, \markup handles one single
argument.
but now why can't I use word wrap and justify?
maybe I need some escape charactor?
Thanks so far,
Aaron
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Re: offset not working
I would expect such marks to be left aligned with the bar lines instead
of centered over the multimeasure rest, to make it completely clear
exactly where in the music the change should happen. Here's one example:
\version 2.6.0
\score{
{ \set Score.skipBars = ##t
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'padding = #3
c''1 \mark \markup{\bold Andante } |
R1*4 \mark \markup{\bold Etwas langsamer } |
R1*7 c''1 }
\layout{raggedright=##t}
}
/Mats
Kris Shaffer wrote:
It's not always necessary, but regularly in orchestral parts, you will
have a new tempo or expression mark over each of several adjacent
multirests (especially with the overly verbose German composers like
Strauss and Mahler). So it would come in handy for me...
Kris
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:36:57 -0400, Han-Wen Nienhuys
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Kris Shaffer wrote:
Why can't LilyPond figure out the length of the text itself?
Maybe a new feature somebody wants to sponsor?
That would be a very helpful and time-saving feature, especially
when producing orchestral parts. How much would it be worth? I'd
be willing to contribute a modest amount if a few others wanted to
join in as well.
It's not clear to me that the mm-rest text should be kept between the
barlines. Of course, I can have a look into the cost of such a
modification.
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Re: text below staff ouch!
Since you are the only one in the discussion who knows Hebrew, maybe you can enlighten the rest of us what happens and what you would like to happen, for example using some examples similar to examples that Tom sent earlier. /Mats Aaron Mehl wrote: Did you try \justify-string or \wordwrap-string? See the example called markup-word-wrap.ly in the Regression Test document for version 2.7 to see what the different word wrapping commands do (though not for Hebrew). Thats where I got the examples I used from So far they don't work with the hebrew. Aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text below staff ouch!
Did you try \justify-string or \wordwrap-string? See the example called markup-word-wrap.ly in the Regression Test document for version 2.7 to see what the different word wrapping commands do (though not for Hebrew). Thats where I got the examples I used from So far they don't work with the hebrew. Aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text below staff ouch!
but now why can't I use word wrap and justify?
I don't usually read this list on the Web, I just
read the mail that
the list sends me -- and at this point I have lost
track of your
original post to the list.
fine I use mutt and use yahoo only for lilypond
because my private address doesn't work for this list.
I can send you the example to your email if you
promise to reply back to the group so that the answer
appears in the archives.
My mail client is plain-text only (Latin-1). Can
you post a message
containing a \markup command *without* word-wrap
justify which gets the
character-order right, and then, secondly, the
\markup command *with*
word-wrap justify, so that I can look at it?
You don't have to use the actual characters in the
two \markup examples.
You could just use ascii characters ABC...; it would
still show me
the structure of the command you're using.
Thanks for your patience...
-- Tom
Thank you
Aaron
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Aaron Mehl wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aaron Mehl wrote:
but actually for each word the letters are in
the
correct order but the words themselves go left
to
right instead of right to left.
With automatic text reversal, I would expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
ENO OWT EERHT
exactly
which is what it does once I removed the
justification and wordwrapping
But, with a pair of quote-marks added, I would
expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
EERHT OWT ENO
bravo!
In the first case, \markup handles 3 arguments,
one
after the other.
In the second case, \markup handles one single
argument.
but now why can't I use word wrap and justify?
maybe I need some escape charactor?
Thanks so far,
Aaron
-- Tom
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Re: text below staff ouch!
Well I have to admit I only tried two of the examples
\markup {
this is normal text
\override #'(linewidth . 60)
\wordwrap {
ABC cde
}
works and gives me edc CBA but for a long lines it
keeps going off the page (no word wrap?)I gather the
override linewidth should be set to something
different for this to work?...
}
\markup {
this is normal text
\override #'(linewidth . 40)
\justify {
ABC def
ABC def
ABC def
}
if I make separate lines they come out as a mess one
on top of the other.
}
\markup {
\override #'(linewidth . 40)
{ \wordwrap-string # ABC def
Here the word wrap does work but the word order for
hebrew comes out:
CBA fed (left to right word order right to left letter
order)
\justify-string #
ABC def
ABC def
ABC def
}
Here the justify works but on the english side not the
hebrew. The hebrew word order is also wrong:
CBA fed
CBA fed
CBA fed
(left to right word order right to left letter order)
I am sorry I didn't test this better previously.
So I can get the correct word order it is just the
justify and wordwrap that are acting flakey.
Thanks
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Re: text below staff ouch!
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Since you are the only one in the discussion who knows Hebrew, maybe you can enlighten the rest of us what happens and what you would like to happen, for example using some examples similar to examples that Tom sent earlier. the problem seems to be that \markup commands are hard-coded to LtoR text composition. Individual words are handled by Pango, so these are done correctly. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: epsfile include question
Henrik Frisk wrote: Two questions about the \epsfile statement that I can't find in the documentation: 1. Is it not possible to move the eps graphic? I have tried \raise without success. You can't move scripts wholesale with \raise. See http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html Graham, Where did this information go in the 2.6/2.7 manual? 2. Is it possible to scale the size of the graphic? (It strikes me now that it may be scaled with the global-staff-size - haven't checked that...) Thanks for any input. No, but I can add it as a sponsored feature, if you like. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: da capo al fine
Am 2005-08-23 um 13:29 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
For the MIDI, I hope you know that you can make a separate \score{...}
for the MIDI output, for example something like,
Thank you - sometimes you've to point me to the obvious.
I always use a separate \score for MIDI output, because I need to
\unfoldRepeats, set instruments, sometimes use accompaigning voices
etc., so it's no real effort.
Greetlings from Lake Constance
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fiëé visuëlle
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script direction not yet known
Somewhere in some input I've specified neither ^ nor _ for some script. Lily then says programming error: script direction not yet known continuing, cross fingers The output is fine. But is there a way to coax Lily to tell me *where* the script is that has no direction specification (so that I can add such a specification to my input and avoid the warning)? Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond dies on hairpin override
Hello.
When I use a \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset LilyPond dies in
compilation. No errors or warnings. Log says:
# -*-compilation-*-
Changing working directory to `G:/MusicCvt'
Processing `G:/MusicCvt/test.ly'
Parsing...
thats all.
Using Win2k, version 2.6.3. Example file is attached.
regards,
Hans.
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\paper
{
#(set-paper-size a4)
}
\version 2.6.3
\header
{
title = Test
}
\score
{
\new Staff
{
\new Voice \relative c
{
% Staff 1 (Flute)
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
% this causes LilyPond to die:
\override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 )
c'\p\ d e \mf f \ |
g a \p b c |
}
}
}
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Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
On 8/24/05, Hans de Rijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. When I use a \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset LilyPond dies in compilation. No errors or warnings. Log says: # -*-compilation-*- Changing working directory to `G:/MusicCvt' Processing `G:/MusicCvt/test.ly' Parsing... Hi Hans, Change ... \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 ) to \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -1.8) ... making sure to insert the apostrophe between the octothorpe and (0 . -1.8) (just as you include the apostrophe between the octothorpe and extra-offset). Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: epsfile include question
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Two questions about the \epsfile statement that I can't find in the
documentation:
1. Is it not possible to move the eps graphic? I have tried \raise
without success.
You can't move scripts wholesale with \raise. See
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html
Graham,
A few lines fell out of my first post. I have tried a number of commands apart
from \raise which obviously doesn't work. As far as I understand, \translate
would be one possible way to move the graphic and I can move it sideways but
not up or down. IOW the following moves it to the right but not up:
\markup { \translate #(cons 2 5) \epsfile #eps/nss.eps }
Where did this information go in the 2.6/2.7 manual?
2. Is it possible to scale the size of the graphic? (It strikes me now that
it may be scaled with the global-staff-size - haven't checked that...)
Thanks for any input.
No, but I can add it as a sponsored feature, if you like.
Yeah, well, how much?
/henrik frisk
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bypass \set associatedVoice altogether?
Why does the second set of lyrics with \set associatedVoice align incorrectly?
And, in general, should I bypass \set associatedVoice altogether and
insert fake spaces, as in the third set of lyrics (which do work
correctly)?
%% BEGIN LYRICS ALIGNMENT SNIPPET %
\version 2.7.7
theVoice = {
\time 2/4
\set Staff.autoBeaming = ##f
d''8
{
\voiceOne
d''16
d''16
\oneVoice
}
\context Voice = alternative {
\voiceTwo
d''8
\oneVoice
}
d''8
d''8
}
theFirstLyrics = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = GOOD:
Five words in this voice.
}
theSecondLyrics = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = BAD :
\set associatedVoice = alternative
On --
% reverts to mainVoice 1/16th too early:
\set associatedVoice = mainVoice
ly
four
here.
}
theThirdLyrics = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = GOOD:
On --
ly
four
here.
}
\score {
\new Staff
\context Voice = mainVoice \theVoice
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mainVoice \theFirstLyrics
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mainVoice \theSecondLyrics
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mainVoice \theThirdLyrics
\layout {
raggedright = ##t
}
}
%%% END LYRICS ALIGNMENT SNIPPET %
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lyrics-alignment.png
Description: PNG image
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Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
Thanks Trevor, I just found it myself too. regards, Hans. - Original Message - From: Trevor Baca [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hans de Rijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:04 PM Subject: Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override On 8/24/05, Hans de Rijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. When I use a \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset LilyPond dies in compilation. No errors or warnings. Log says: # -*-compilation-*- Changing working directory to `G:/MusicCvt' Processing `G:/MusicCvt/test.ly' Parsing... Hi Hans, Change ... \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 ) to \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -1.8) ... making sure to insert the apostrophe between the octothorpe and (0 . -1.8) (just as you include the apostrophe between the octothorpe and extra-offset). Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: epsfile include question
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Two questions about the \epsfile statement that I can't find in the
documentation:
1. Is it not possible to move the eps graphic? I have tried \raise
without success.
You can't move scripts wholesale with \raise. See
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html
Graham,
A few lines fell out of my first post. I have tried a number of commands apart
from \raise which obviously doesn't work. As far as I understand, \translate
would be one possible way to move the graphic and I can move it sideways but
not up or down. IOW the following moves it to the right but not up:
\markup { \translate #(cons 2 5) \epsfile #eps/nss.eps }
The example from the 2.4 manual doesn't work out of the box in 2.6.
You have to replace the with or \hspace #1.0 to give \raise
some object to raise relative to. Of course, a better alternative is
probably to increase the padding:
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #3.0
c^\markup{...}
/Mats
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Re: epsfile include question
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Two questions about the \epsfile statement that I can't find in the
documentation:
1. Is it not possible to move the eps graphic? I have tried \raise
without success.
You can't move scripts wholesale with \raise. See
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html
Graham,
A few lines fell out of my first post. I have tried a number of
commands apart from \raise which obviously doesn't work. As far as I
understand, \translate would be one possible way to move the graphic
and I can move it sideways but not up or down. IOW the following
moves it to the right but not up:
\markup { \translate #(cons 2 5) \epsfile #eps/nss.eps }
The example from the 2.4 manual doesn't work out of the box in 2.6.
You have to replace the with or \hspace #1.0 to give \raise
some object to raise relative to. Of course, a better alternative is
probably to increase the padding:
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #3.0
c^\markup{...}
/Mats
Well, here we go! That's something that works.
Thank you!
/henrik
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Re: epsfile include question
On 24-Aug-05, at 3:17 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
You can't move scripts wholesale with \raise. See
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/
Text-markup.html
Graham,
Where did this information go in the 2.6/2.7 manual?
As Mats said, this trick no longer works, so I removed it. I've added
info with
new tricks (#'padding, and using \hspace #0 to create an anchor
point).
Will
\markup{ \hspace #0 \raise #3 high text }
continue to work in the future? When we noticed that \raise and
\raise
didn't work, there was a discussion about whether the whitespace should
work in the same in future versions; you didn't want to commit to doing
that.
Is \hspace #0 a stable construct? (if not, could we have a \null markup
command that _is_ stable, and does the same thing as \hspace #0 ?)
Cheers,
- Graham
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Re: text below staff ouch!
Well, from your four examples, and from Han-Wen's remarks, it looks like
you will have to give up on using wordwrap: I think you will have to
produce each line of the text individually, given LilyPond's current
limitations.
If you define the lines in variables,
La = this string is the first line of text
Lb = this string is the second line of text
Lc = this string is the third line of text
and so on, guessing as well as you can how to break up the text
into lines, then you can write
\markup { La }
\markup { Lb }
\markup { Lc }
or instead, the following might work:
\markup { \column { La Lb Lc } }
I haven't been using LilyPond for very long, but I think you could write
something like
\markup { \override #'(baseline-skip . 1.2) \column { La Lb Lc } }
or maybe
\markup { \column { \override #'(baseline-skip . 1.2) La Lb Lc } }
to control the vertical spacing of the lines. But at least one of those
two possibilities is not correct syntax. I'm pressed for time tonight, so
I can't try these things out at the moment.
As to whether you could throw in a \justify before or inside
the \column {...} construct, I don't know, but it would be worth a try.
-- Tom
*
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Aaron Mehl wrote:
Well I have to admit I only tried two of the examples
\markup {
this is normal text
\override #'(linewidth . 60)
\wordwrap {
ABC cde
}
works and gives me edc CBA but for a long lines it
keeps going off the page (no word wrap?)I gather the
override linewidth should be set to something
different for this to work?...
}
\markup {
this is normal text
\override #'(linewidth . 40)
\justify {
ABC def
ABC def
ABC def
}
if I make separate lines they come out as a mess one
on top of the other.
}
\markup {
\override #'(linewidth . 40)
{ \wordwrap-string # ABC def
Here the word wrap does work but the word order for
hebrew comes out:
CBA fed (left to right word order right to left letter
order)
\justify-string #
ABC def
ABC def
ABC def
}
Here the justify works but on the english side not the
hebrew. The hebrew word order is also wrong:
CBA fed
CBA fed
CBA fed
(left to right word order right to left letter order)
I am sorry I didn't test this better previously.
So I can get the correct word order it is just the
justify and wordwrap that are acting flakey.
Thanks
Aaron
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Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
Trevor Baca wrote: Change ... \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 ) to \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -1.8) So you committed a Scheme error. Side remark: a Scheme error always seems to result in a log file ending in a wistful Parsing... with no further information, like a message scratched on a wall by the last human at the world's end. But at least you can be pretty sure that a Scheme error is the problem, so you can use a fine-tooth comb on your Scheme expressions looking for the error. I've taken to keeping a separate file with a handwritten list of all the Scheme expressions that *do* work, as a help in finding my coding faults. -- Tom ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
