Re: Lilypond 2.7.15 ----- Any news on a release for windows?

2005-11-04 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Trent J. writes:

 DIV class=RTEIs there any news on when 2.7.15 will be released for 
 windows... we seem to be 3 versions behind the rest at the moment../DIV

Funny you should mention it, I have been working quite hard on the
windows 2.6.4 release.  FWIW, I consider development snapshots a
bonus, esp. considering CVS hasn't been usable lately.

Jan.

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Re: Lilypond 2.7.15 ----- Any news on a release for windows?

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Considering the amount of internal brain surgery that seems to have
been done since 2.7.12, I wouldn't be surprised if the latest Windows
version is much more stable than 2.7.15, so maybe you shouldn't complain.
On the other hand, it means that fewer people get the chance to discover and
report the bugs.

  /Mats

Trent J wrote:


Hi all,
 
Is there any news on when 2.7.15 will be released for windows... we 
seem to be 3 versions behind the rest at the moment..
 
Trent




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Re: \book usage

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Graham Percival wrote:


 But are there any other problems that you solve easier with
lilypond-book?



Yes.  The above produces:
collection.pdf   (includes piece1, with pages numbered 1 and 2)
collection-1.pdf   (includes piece2, with pages numbered 1 and 2 as well)
(assuming piece1 and 2 are both 2 pages)


If you get two PDF output files, then you still have some \book{...} left
in one of the included files! Just remove all of them and you should get
all your pieces in a single PDF with continuous page numbering.

  /Mats

Now, I _could_ manually set piece2 to start on page 3, and I could 
probably find some command-line tool to stick foo.pdf and foo-1.pdf 
together as fooall.pdf  (I know pstools can do this with ps files)... 
but I found it easier to use lilypond-book.


The automatic page numbering is a bigger issue than sticking pdfs 
together.  Once I've found the tool (pdftools ?), I can just include 
those commands in a script and have it done automatically.  But if I 
change the order of pieces in a collection, or add an extra page of 
text at the beginning or whatever, I'd have to change all the manual 
page numbers again.


Cheers,
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Re: 2 conversion problems 2.4.6-2.6.3

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Thomas Ruedas wrote:


Hi,
...

2.) The other problem concerns the width of the braces at the 
beginning of the piano staff. While these were just perfect in the 
old version, they are too wide in the new one, although I didn't 
change anything in the source. How is that possible, and how do I fix 
it?
 


Do you mean that they are too high or are you talking about the horizontal
width? I tried to compare the following pages from the manual of versions
2.4 and 2.7, respectively and can't notice any difference (unfortunately 
the

on-line manual for 2.6 hasn't been updated since version 2.6.1, which had a
bug so the braces were not shown at all)

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Piano-staves.html#Piano-staves
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Piano-staves.html#Piano-staves


  /Mats


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Lilypond-Book (under winXP)-Help on Env. Variables

2005-11-04 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
Hi to all!

while running lilypond-book.py

=
C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\binlilypond-book.py --psfonts 
D:\Lilypond-Scores\Lilybook\deneme.lytex
=

I got the following error:
**
Reading D:\Lilypond-Scores\Lilybook\deneme.lytex...

Running latex...The system cannot find the path specified.
-- this is probably the main error..
lilypond-book.py: error: `latex' failed (signal 1)
lilypond-book.py: error: The error log is as follows:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1675, 
in ?
main ()
  File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1641, 
in main
chunks = do_file (file)
  File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1503, 
in do_file
set_default_options (source)
  File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 680, in 
set_default_option
textwidth = get_latex_textwidth (source)
  File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1322, 
in get_latex_textwid
ly.system ('latex %s' % tmpfile)
  File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilylib.py, line 296, in system
sys.stderr.write (open (error_log_file).read ())
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'tmpb6ycn-latex.errorlog'
**
however my environment variables and file locations are as follows:
Path (user) : C:\texmf\miktex\bin;
%SystemRoot%\system32;
%SystemRoot%;
%SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM;
...[irrevelant entries removed]...
LYEDITOR=C:\Program Files\Editors\WinEdit\WinEdt.exe;-this one doesn't 
seem to work either
C:\Python24;
latex=C:\texmf\miktex\bin\latex.exe

Path (System) : C:\texmf\miktex\bin;
%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;
%SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM;
C:\Program Files\Utilities\Diskeeper\;
C:\Python24;
LYEDITOR=C:\Program Files\Editors\WinEdit\WinEdt.exe;
latex=C:\texmf\miktex\bin\latex.exe

I messed with them to some extend..
Thanks for any help
- 
Best regards,
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Re: 2 conversion problems 2.4.6-2.6.3

2005-11-04 Thread Gilles
 
 [...]  But I know that OSX and windows have built-in software 
 character map, and I'm certain that many exist for linux and windows.
 

For Linux: gucharmap


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Re: Lilypond-Book (under winXP)-Help on Env. Variables

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I'm working on this problem! By the way, please always tell exactly
what LilyPond package you use.

  /Mats

Mehmet Okonsar wrote:


Hi to all!

while running lilypond-book.py

=
C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\binlilypond-book.py --psfonts 
D:\Lilypond-Scores\Lilybook\deneme.lytex
=

I got the following error:
**
Reading D:\Lilypond-Scores\Lilybook\deneme.lytex...

Running latex...The system cannot find the path specified.
-- this is probably the main error..
lilypond-book.py: error: `latex' failed (signal 1)
lilypond-book.py: error: The error log is as follows:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1675, in 
?
   main ()
 File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1641, in 
main
   chunks = do_file (file)
 File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1503, in 
do_file
   set_default_options (source)
 File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 680, in 
set_default_option
   textwidth = get_latex_textwidth (source)
 File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py, line 1322, in 
get_latex_textwid
   ly.system ('latex %s' % tmpfile)
 File C:\Program Files\MUSIC\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilylib.py, line 296, in system
   sys.stderr.write (open (error_log_file).read ())
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'tmpb6ycn-latex.errorlog'
**
however my environment variables and file locations are as follows:
Path (user) : C:\texmf\miktex\bin;
   %SystemRoot%\system32;
   %SystemRoot%;
   %SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM;
   ...[irrevelant entries removed]...
   LYEDITOR=C:\Program Files\Editors\WinEdit\WinEdt.exe;-this one doesn't 
seem to work either
   C:\Python24;
   latex=C:\texmf\miktex\bin\latex.exe
   
Path (System) : C:\texmf\miktex\bin;

   %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;
   %SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM;
   C:\Program Files\Utilities\Diskeeper\;
   C:\Python24;
   LYEDITOR=C:\Program Files\Editors\WinEdit\WinEdt.exe;
   latex=C:\texmf\miktex\bin\latex.exe

I messed with them to some extend..
Thanks for any help
- 
Best regards,

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Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson

In your original question, you didn't really say what you wanted to achieve
and you didn't include any complete example. A \markup{...} is used just
like any text string and within a score, you either have to attach it to 
a note

like
b4^\markup{\italic Moderato }
or if you want it right at the top of the piece or over a bar line, use
\mark \markup{\italic Moderato }

Read about Text Scripts and Text Marks in the manual for more information
on these two options. Also, note that if you want to override the padding
property, you need different commands for these two options, since different
layout objects are used.

s1 itself is a spacing note (i.e. an invisible note), so you definitely 
don't

want to add it in a voice of music. Spacing notes are sometimes used
in some parallel voice, for example to be able to put a text script or a 
dynamic

indication or whatever at a place where you don't have any note starting.

In the example you sent earlier today, my guess is that you really want 
something

like

\tempo 4=80
\time 3/4
\once \override TextScript #'staff-padding = #4.0

b4^\markup{ Pelleagato }^\markup{ \italic Andantino } \mf c d

or combining both into a single two-line markup

\tempo 4=80
\time 3/4
b4^\markup{ \column {\italic Moderato Pelleagato }} \mf c d

or using \mark (changing the alignment from default center to left)

\tempo 4=80
\time 3/4
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'padding = #4.0
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
\mark \markup{ \column {\italic Moderato Pelleagato }}

b4 \mf c d |


In the first of these three examples, I didn't use padding but 
staff-padding,

since otherwise you get a very wide spacing also between the two markups
(try it yourself, to see what I mean).

Regarding the tremolo, the number after the : should indicate the
duration of each subdivision. I don't know the standard notation for
guitar music, but on most other instruments you use 3 beams to indicate
tremolo, i.e. b8:32

  /Mats


Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:

This sort of worked, whereas the other two suggestions did not work at 
all.
However what it did not do was raise the word 'Moderato' above the 
tempo marking the word Pelleagato appears next to the tempo marking 
which would be sufficient/acceptable except I still don't know what is 
going on.
My guess is that s1^ is doing something even though it's doing 
something different in each case- which means that I don't know what/why.
I suspect that Han-Wen did answer thoroughly but I accidently deleted 
that response.

I apologize.
Jay

Martial wrote:





\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
\markup{ \italic Moderato }




test this :

{
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2.0
s1^\markup{ \italic Moderato }
s1^\markup{ Pelleagato }
}






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Re: 2 conversion problems 2.4.6-2.6.3

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Windows XP: Start Menu - Programs - accessories - System Tools - 
Character Map.


  /Mats

Gilles wrote:

[...]  But I know that OSX and windows have built-in software 
character map, and I'm certain that many exist for linux and windows.


   



For Linux: gucharmap


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Re: was markup/padding but now tremolo and that markup/padding

2005-11-04 Thread Martial


for me Moderato is above the line Pellagato;
I use Lilypond 2.7.12 for window

My guess is that s1^ is doing something even though it's doing something 
different in each case- which means that I don't know what/why.



s1 is a silence tempo breve

You can change s1 by a note sample  c1

c1^\markup{ \italic Moderato }



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midi for many pieces

2005-11-04 Thread Daniel Hernandez

Hello I working with a composition with many pieces. I structure all they
in a book enviroment like this:

--- file book.ly --
: 
: Flute = \relative c'' {

:   \key c \major
:   \time 4/4
:   a b c d f g a
: } flute = {
:   \set Staff.instrument = Flute 
:   \set Staff.midiInstrument = flute
:   \clef treble
:   \context Staff  \Flute 
: }
: 
: Violin = \relative c'' {

:   \key c \major
:   \time 4/4
:   g f e d c b a g
: } violin = {
:   \set Staff.instrument = Violin 
:   \set Staff.midiInstrument = violin
:   \clef treble
:   \context Staff  \Violin 
: }
: 
: \book {

:   \header {
: title = Book test
: composer = My name
: }
: 
:   \score {

: \header { piece = Piece 1 }
: 
:   \context Staff = flute \flute
: 
: \layout { }
: \midi { \tempo 4=60 }
:   }
: 
:   \score {

: \header { piece = Pice 2 }
: 
:   \context Staff = violin \violin
: 
: \layout { }
: \midi { \tempo 4=60 }
:   }
: }
:
---

But when I compile the *.ly file it generate only the midi for the second 
score. For the compilation comments above I think that it overwrite the 
first score.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond book.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.4.5
Processing `book.ly'
Analizando...
Interpreting music... [2]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks...
Interpreting music...
Salida MIDI a `book.midi'...
Track...
Interpreting music... [3]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks...
Interpreting music...
Salida MIDI a `book.midi'...
Track...
Layout output to `book.tex'...
Converting to `book.dvi'...
Converting to `book.ps'...
Converting to `book.pdf'...

I want to get one midi file, with the two consecutive scores, or two midi 
files, one for each score. Do you know how can I do it?


Thanks
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Re: midi for many pieces

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I seem to recall that this was a bug in version 2.4 that has been fixed 
in later

versions. On possibility might be to put each \score{...} within its own
\book{...}, at least for the MIDI outputs (if you do that for the paper 
output,

you will get one PDF file for each \book). Note also that the \book in your
example below is completely redundant.

  /Mats

Daniel Hernandez wrote:


Hello I working with a composition with many pieces. I structure all they
in a book enviroment like this:

--- file book.ly --
: : Flute = \relative c'' {
:   \key c \major
:   \time 4/4
:   a b c d f g a
: } flute = {
:   \set Staff.instrument = Flute 
:   \set Staff.midiInstrument = flute
:   \clef treble
:   \context Staff  \Flute 
: }
: : Violin = \relative c'' {
:   \key c \major
:   \time 4/4
:   g f e d c b a g
: } violin = {
:   \set Staff.instrument = Violin 
:   \set Staff.midiInstrument = violin
:   \clef treble
:   \context Staff  \Violin 
: }
: : \book {
:   \header {
: title = Book test
: composer = My name
: }
: :   \score {
: \header { piece = Piece 1 }
: 
:   \context Staff = flute \flute
: 
: \layout { }
: \midi { \tempo 4=60 }
:   }
: :   \score {
: \header { piece = Pice 2 }
: 
:   \context Staff = violin \violin
: 
: \layout { }
: \midi { \tempo 4=60 }
:   }
: }
:
---

But when I compile the *.ly file it generate only the midi for the 
second score. For the compilation comments above I think that it 
overwrite the first score.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond book.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.4.5
Processing `book.ly'
Analizando...
Interpreting music... [2]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks...
Interpreting music...
Salida MIDI a `book.midi'...
Track...
Interpreting music... [3]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks...
Interpreting music...
Salida MIDI a `book.midi'...
Track...
Layout output to `book.tex'...
Converting to `book.dvi'...
Converting to `book.ps'...
Converting to `book.pdf'...

I want to get one midi file, with the two consecutive scores, or two 
midi files, one for each score. Do you know how can I do it?


Thanks
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Re: midi for many pieces

2005-11-04 Thread Gilles
 
 But when I compile the *.ly file it generate only the midi for the second 
 score. For the compilation comments above I think that it overwrite the 
 first score.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond book.ly
 GNU LilyPond 2.4.5
   ^

That's a known bug.
The only way out is to upgrade to 2.6.x.


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Re: New and bug-free 2.6.4-4 for Windows [WAS: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?]

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Python and midi2ly seem OK, but now lilypond.exe doesn't seem to do
anything useful. I tried:
lilypond -h
lilypond somefile.ly
both from a Windows command prompt and from within Cygwin and
there are no printouts or output files whatsoever. It doesn't make any
difference if I specify a full path for the executable.

Also, I noticed that the uninstaller (at least for some of the previous 
versions) didn't
remove the changes done to the environment variables, so now I have .PY 
both at

the front and at the end of PATHEXT, for example.

  /Mats

Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:


Mats Bengtsson writes:

 


Thanks for your efforts! However, is it really that hard to make a simple
test case yourself? There are still a number of problems to solve:
   



Please have a look at the new and bug-free 2.6.4-4!  Python and argv0
relocation should both work now (at least, they work for me :-)

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What plug-ins to use in Jedit

2005-11-04 Thread Jannik Jeppesen



Hi, I have just installed Jedit, and I 
wandered...
There is so many plug-ins to install, should I only 
install "LilyPond Tool" or is there anyone else to use in benifit of 
LilyPond?

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Re: Grob Direction error

2005-11-04 Thread Sean Reed

i've been getting this since 2.7.14 too. (macos 10.4.2)

has this been addressed further on the lists? (i found no reply to  
this mail).


here's an example of code that gives me this. it occurs as soon as i  
put in the tie.


best,
sean


\version 2.7.15

eOrg = \relative c' {
\time 3/8
\clef treble

\tieDashed
fis, d' gis a8~\longfermata fis d' gis a4 |

}


\new Staff \eOrg





Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de

On 28.10.2005, at 09:41, Neil Killeen wrote:


Hi

have just upgraded to 2.7.14 from 2.6.31 (Mac version).
I now get the rather drammatic error message

programming error: Grob direction requested while calculation in  
progress.


the output looks fine so I am wondering if this is a debug statement
in the development version ?

cheers
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Re: Grob Direction error

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I'm afraid that the comment on brain-surgery at the end of
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-lilypond/2005-10/msg3.html
is still valid in 2.7.14 and 2.7.15.

  /Mats

Sean Reed wrote:


i've been getting this since 2.7.14 too. (macos 10.4.2)

has this been addressed further on the lists? (i found no reply to  
this mail).


here's an example of code that gives me this. it occurs as soon as i  
put in the tie.


best,
sean


\version 2.7.15

eOrg = \relative c' {
\time 3/8
\clef treble

\tieDashed
fis, d' gis a8~\longfermata fis d' gis a4 |

}


\new Staff \eOrg





Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de

On 28.10.2005, at 09:41, Neil Killeen wrote:


Hi

have just upgraded to 2.7.14 from 2.6.31 (Mac version).
I now get the rather drammatic error message

programming error: Grob direction requested while calculation in  
progress.


the output looks fine so I am wondering if this is a debug statement
in the development version ?

cheers
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Re: midi for many pieces

2005-11-04 Thread Daniel Hernandez



But when I compile the *.ly file it generate only the midi for the second
score. For the compilation comments above I think that it overwrite the
first score.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond book.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.4.5

  ^

That's a known bug.
The only way out is to upgrade to 2.6.x.


Thanks, I upgrated lilypond and lilypond-data packages to the 2.6.3-9
versions from the unstable debian package repositories and now it works
fine.

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Re: bars and clefs

2005-11-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson

An alternative solution that goes more to the source of the actual problem
is to do something like

\override Score.BarLine #'space-alist = #'(
   (time-signature . (extra-space . 0.75))
   (custos . (minimum-space . 2.0))
   (clef . (minimum-space . 1.5)) % Default value = 1.0
   (key-signature . (extra-space . 1.0))
   (key-cancellation . (extra-space . 1.0))
   (first-note . (fixed-space . 1.3))
   (next-note . (semi-fixed-space . 1.3))
   (right-edge . (extra-space . 0.0)))

Maybe you have to increase the minimum space from BarLine to key-signature
even further, 1.5 is just a guess.

This is definitely something that's hard to figure out yourself from the
documentation. That's why we have a mailing list.

  /Mats

Guy Durrieu wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 


You might try

\once \override Staff.Clef #'extra-X-extent = #'(-2 . 1)
\clef tenor

which would give you 2 more units of space to the left of the
clef symbol and 1 more unit of space to the right of the clef.
(tenor:  sorry, I deleted so much e-mail that I've lost track
of what clef you actually wanted.)

I'm sitting at a non-LilyPond machine at the moment, so I can't test
that to verify it, but I've used similar commands to provide extra space
to the left or right of various musical graphic objects (grobs).

-- Tom



   



Thanks for your help. I'll try that. I am aware of these commands, but
it is not easy for a beginner to find out the right command with the
right parameters. And they may be difficult to use since the other
objects stay where they are :)

Regards.

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Re: 2 conversion problems 2.4.6-2.6.3

2005-11-04 Thread Thomas Ruedas
On Friday 04 November 2005 09:54, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
 2.) The other problem concerns the width of the braces at the
 beginning of the piano staff.
 Do you mean that they are too high or are you talking about the
 horizontal width?
They are too high - sorry for being unclear. The ends of the braces 
now reach above and below the uppermost and lowermost lines of the 
right-hand and left-hand piano staff, respectively, whereas they were 
at the same level before.
I have put two example images on
http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/brace24.png
http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/brace26.png
which were both generated with
\version 2.4.6 (resp. \version 2.6.3)

u = { \change Staff = upper \stemDown }
l = { \change Staff = lower \stemUp }

i = \context Staff {
\context Voice = i
\voiceOne
\clef bass \key bes \major \time 2/4
\relative { \u bes,8 \l bes \u bes \l bes }
}

ii = \context Staff {
\context Voice = ii
\voiceTwo
\clef bass \key bes \major \time 2/4 s2
}


\score {
\context PianoStaff 
\context Staff = upper  \i 
\context Staff = lower  \ii 

}

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Re: New and bug-free 2.6.4-4 for Windows

2005-11-04 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Mats Bengtsson writes:

 Python and midi2ly seem OK,

Yay!

 but now lilypond.exe doesn't seem to do anything useful.

How odd.  I can't imaging changing anything except for fixing argv0
relocation (and of course, it works for me).

Do you have a lilypond-windows.exe or lilypond-console.exe in your
usr/bin directory?

What about drag and drop operation?  You did try setting LILYPOND_VERBOSE?
Did you try the lilypond-windows.exe version too?

... It turns out that I didn't produce 2.6.4-4 from a clean build, my
lilypond-windows.exe was broken.  I'm uploading 2.6.4-5 right now,
so any more testing (my questions above) please against that.

 Also, I noticed that the uninstaller (at least for some of the
 previous versions) didn't
 remove the changes done to the environment variables, so now I have
 .PY both at
 the front and at the end of PATHEXT, for example.

Yes, it should prepend now only once, because that's easier to check.
I think that removing this one is a bit tricky and useless.

Jan.

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Re: Proper Text output (kerning etc.)

2005-11-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2005-10-29 um 10:57 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:
As an elucidation:  you should use fonts which are distributed  
as .ttf files, like Verdana. Getting fonts working which are  
distributed as dfonts or inside Resource forks, is something that  
I'd love to work on that as a sponsored feature.


dfonts work, but only if they contain only one font.

I played around with fontconfig configuration, so that I got its  
fonts.cache-1 file everywhere I store fonts (texmf trees etc.), but  
these fonts never get used by LilyPond, regardless of format (TTF or  
anything else).

Don't know if the bug's in fontconfig/pango or LilyPond.

Greetlings from Lake Constance
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fiëé visuëlle
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grace-notes in tuplets

2005-11-04 Thread Peter Mogensen
Hi,

Is there a good reason, that I just don't know of that the two tuplets
below do not give the same result?

Peter


==
\version 2.6.3

\paper {
  raggedright = ##t
}

\new DrumStaff 
  \new DrumVoice {
\drummode { \times 2/3 { \grace sn8 sn8 sn sn }
\times 2/3 { \grace sn8 sn8 sn sn } }
  }




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Re: grace-notes in tuplets

2005-11-04 Thread Gianluca D.
Alle 19:07, venerdì 04 novembre 2005, Peter Mogensen ha scritto:
 Hi,

 Is there a good reason, that I just don't know of that the two tuplets
 below do not give the same result?

 Peter


I've just tried compiling your code with Lilypond 2.7.12 and the two tuplets 
look exactly the same. Could it be a bug of the 2.6.3 version? Maybe 
upgrading to the 2.6.8 will be of use.

Gianluca


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Re: grace-notes in tuplets

2005-11-04 Thread Gianluca D.
Alle 19:20, venerdì 04 novembre 2005, Gianluca D. ha scritto:

 Maybe upgrading to the 2.6.8 will be of use.

 Gianluca

Oops... I meant version 2.6.4- sorry :)



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Hello! Complicated newbie questions!

2005-11-04 Thread Markian Hlynka

Hi everyone!

I just discovered lilypond the other day, and I can't stop playing  
with it. I have all sorts of questions, and I'm hoping maybe some  
people here might be able to point me in the right direction.


First, here are the simple questions:

1. how can I make a small note? like, sometimes in a bass part  
(vocal) there's an additional note an octave down, sometimes small,  
sometimes in brackets, indicating that you can sing it if you're  
able. I see in the manual an incredibly complex way to change the  
notehead size in a chord. That's too much effort. I managed to do it  
like this:


\relative c
\new Staff {
\clef bass
{c4 c c c f f e2
   d4 d c c b g c2 \\ \tiny c,}
}

That's not too bad, trouble is the note has a seperate stem, which  
might not be what you want. Is there any other way to do this?


2. Similarly, can I print a notehead with NO stem?

3. What about putting parentheses around a note in the score ie (o)

4. One other simple one. I'm sure I saw somewhere in the  
documentation a way to extend lines, something like

\header{
composer = Mozart  \\
\line the child prodigy
}

or something like that. But, now I can't find it any more!


OK, now, here are the tough questions.

5. I'm inputting cyrillic text. I've noticed that if cyrillic and  
latin text coincide, they collide in a mess. Is this a known problem?  
I'll send an example, but I don't know if this list will take  
attachments. Basically if I write cyrillic latin cyrillic in, say,

\header{
 title = cyrillic latin cyrillic
}

the result on the score will be cyriic where ## indicates  
overlapped text.


6. I'm trying to understand how to format a choral score. Of  
particular interest is how the words get attached etc.I looked at the  
examples in section 3 of the manual, but that's not quite what I  
want. So far, I've settled on this:


\score
{
\context ChoirStaff

\context Staff = bari

\clef bass
\mainvoice


\context Lyrics = bari \mainwords

\context Staff = bass

\clef bass
\secondvoice



}

Am I doing this right? Among the things I don't understand are how/ 
when the names apply (bari), and where the lyrics get stuck. In my  
example, if I move my \context Lyrics line below the second staff,  
the words print there as well. Yet, in the manual clearly the words  
are tied to the staff explicitly?


7. Finally (for now), I'm having trouble aligning lyrics to music. I  
have this:

mainvoice = \relative c
{
\key a \minor

\repeat volta 2
{
\partial 8*3
e8 a8.  [ b16] c2~c8 b16 a gis8. a16 b2 r8
}
}

mainwords = \lyricmode{ one -- two -- three -- four five six }

So, the end of sylable four should align with c2~c8.. It does, but  
five is also under the c2, not under the subsequent b16 where it  
belongs. I've tried adding _ and __ and even _ __, but there doesn't  
seem to be any effect. Am I doing something wrong? Same problem in  
English and Cyrillic.


Greatly appreciate any help people can give me. This is a very cool  
program, and I'd very much like to use it more!


Thanks,

Markian

PS: System: Mac OS X 10.4.2, Lilypond version 2.6.4-1, also using  
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Re: Hello! Complicated newbie questions!

2005-11-04 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Friday 04 November 2005 23.12, Markian Hlynka wrote:
 7. Finally (for now), I'm having trouble aligning lyrics to music. I
 have this:
 mainvoice = \relative c
 {
  \key a \minor

  \repeat volta 2
  {
  \partial 8*3
  e8 a8.  [ b16] c2~c8 b16 a gis8. a16 b2 r8
  }
 }

 mainwords = \lyricmode{ one -- two -- three -- four five six }

 So, the end of sylable four should align with c2~c8.. It does, but
 five is also under the c2, not under the subsequent b16 where it
 belongs. I've tried adding _ and __ and even _ __, but there doesn't
 seem to be any effect. Am I doing something wrong? Same problem in
 English and Cyrillic.

Please re-read the sections about lyrics carefully. You probably want to use 
\lyricsto or \addlyrics.

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Re: Proper Text output (kerning etc.)

2005-11-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys


Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
As an elucidation:  you should use fonts which are distributed  as 
.ttf files, like Verdana. Getting fonts working which are  distributed 
as dfonts or inside Resource forks, is something that  I'd love to 
work on that as a sponsored feature.


dfonts work, but only if they contain only one font.

I played around with fontconfig configuration, so that I got its  
fonts.cache-1 file everywhere I store fonts (texmf trees etc.), but  
these fonts never get used by LilyPond, regardless of format (TTF or  
anything else).

Don't know if the bug's in fontconfig/pango or LilyPond.


By default,  the MacOS .app only pays attention to fonts in 
/Library/Fonts /System/Library/Fonts /usr/share/fonts/ and ~/.fonts ; It 
should also load the ~/.fonts.conf config file.


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\lyricsto was: Complicated newbie questions!

2005-11-04 Thread Markian Hlynka


On Nov 4, 2005, at 15:52, Erik Sandberg wrote:


On Friday 04 November 2005 23.12, Markian Hlynka wrote:


7. Finally (for now), I'm having trouble aligning lyrics to music. I
have this:
mainvoice = \relative c
{
 \key a \minor

 \repeat volta 2
 {
 \partial 8*3
 e8 a8.  [ b16] c2~c8 b16 a gis8. a16 b2 r8
 }
}

mainwords = \lyricmode{ one -- two -- three -- four five six }

So, the end of sylable four should align with c2~c8.. It does, but
five is also under the c2, not under the subsequent b16 where it
belongs. I've tried adding _ and __ and even _ __, but there doesn't
seem to be any effect. Am I doing something wrong? Same problem in
English and Cyrillic.



Please re-read the sections about lyrics carefully. You probably  
want to use

\lyricsto or \addlyrics.



I see, but I don't understand to what I must attach \lyricsto

Also, is there a way to have a main lyrics line for choral stuff, and  
alternative extra lyrics per voice as needed? ie so the main lyrics  
only print out once if there's a master staff? Does that make sense?


Markian


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Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?

2005-11-04 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence

Mats [et al} thank you

as for the tremolo in the 2.6 manual section 6.7.6 it gives examples 
with a half note  and the stem has one slash
perhaps I mistakenly thought that even if it was an eighth note to get 
one slash I merely needed to :8

But since that should really mean two 16ths I probably should have :16?
Jay


Mats Bengtsson wrote:



Regarding the tremolo, the number after the : should indicate the
duration of each subdivision. I don't know the standard notation for
guitar music, but on most other instruments you use 3 beams to indicate
tremolo, i.e. b8:32

  /Mats





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Re: Hello! Complicated newbie questions!

2005-11-04 Thread Arthur Dyck
I'm on a steep learning curve also, and the list has been great.  There are a 
couple of other things you can do.  Download the manual onto your machine and 
then do word searches for what you are trying to do.  For example, if you do 
a search for transparent, you 'll find ways to make bars, notes and stems 
transparent, among other things.

Another thing I have been doing is finding templates wherever I can and then 
using or adapting them.  People will often send you a template if you tell 
them what you are trying to do.  Another good place to look is 
www.mutopiaproject.org.  There you'll find lots of different styles of music 
with both the pdf and .ly files.

Finally, don't forget about Google.  It will often take you straight to list 
archives regarding your search.

You sound really excited about Lilypond, as are we all.  But you might get 
more responses if you split up your questions into separate emails with their 
own subject line.  

Regards

Arthur

On Friday 04 November 2005 03:12 pm, Markian Hlynka wrote:
 Hi everyone!

 I just discovered lilypond the other day, and I can't stop playing
 with it. I have all sorts of questions, and I'm hoping maybe some
 people here might be able to point me in the right direction.

 First, here are the simple questions:

 1. how can I make a small note? like, sometimes in a bass part
 (vocal) there's an additional note an octave down, sometimes small,
 sometimes in brackets, indicating that you can sing it if you're
 able. I see in the manual an incredibly complex way to change the
 notehead size in a chord. That's too much effort. I managed to do it
 like this:

  \relative c
  \new Staff {
  \clef bass
  {c4 c c c f f e2
 d4 d c c b g c2 \\ \tiny c,}
  }

 That's not too bad, trouble is the note has a seperate stem, which
 might not be what you want. Is there any other way to do this?

 2. Similarly, can I print a notehead with NO stem?

 3. What about putting parentheses around a note in the score ie (o)

 4. One other simple one. I'm sure I saw somewhere in the
 documentation a way to extend lines, something like
 \header{
  composer = Mozart  \\
  \line the child prodigy
 }

 or something like that. But, now I can't find it any more!


 OK, now, here are the tough questions.

 5. I'm inputting cyrillic text. I've noticed that if cyrillic and
 latin text coincide, they collide in a mess. Is this a known problem?
 I'll send an example, but I don't know if this list will take
 attachments. Basically if I write cyrillic latin cyrillic in, say,
 \header{
   title = cyrillic latin cyrillic
 }

 the result on the score will be cyriic where ## indicates
 overlapped text.

 6. I'm trying to understand how to format a choral score. Of
 particular interest is how the words get attached etc.I looked at the
 examples in section 3 of the manual, but that's not quite what I
 want. So far, I've settled on this:

 \score
 {
  \context ChoirStaff
  
  \context Staff = bari
  
  \clef bass
  \mainvoice


  \context Lyrics = bari \mainwords

  \context Staff = bass
  
  \clef bass
  \secondvoice



 }

 Am I doing this right? Among the things I don't understand are how/
 when the names apply (bari), and where the lyrics get stuck. In my
 example, if I move my \context Lyrics line below the second staff,
 the words print there as well. Yet, in the manual clearly the words
 are tied to the staff explicitly?

 7. Finally (for now), I'm having trouble aligning lyrics to music. I
 have this:
 mainvoice = \relative c
 {
  \key a \minor

  \repeat volta 2
  {
  \partial 8*3
  e8 a8.  [ b16] c2~c8 b16 a gis8. a16 b2 r8
  }
 }

 mainwords = \lyricmode{ one -- two -- three -- four five six }

 So, the end of sylable four should align with c2~c8.. It does, but
 five is also under the c2, not under the subsequent b16 where it
 belongs. I've tried adding _ and __ and even _ __, but there doesn't
 seem to be any effect. Am I doing something wrong? Same problem in
 English and Cyrillic.

 Greatly appreciate any help people can give me. This is a very cool
 program, and I'd very much like to use it more!

 Thanks,

 Markian

 PS: System: Mac OS X 10.4.2, Lilypond version 2.6.4-1, also using
 lilypad preview 2-1

 
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