Re: Which frontend?
Well, I'm a bit disappointed about what you said about the jEdit+LilyPondTool set. - I can confirm that setting up everything may be more than just to apt-get something. However, as far as I see you may get LilyPondTool running by just downloading Java, jEdit and making three clicks with your mouse in jEdit. Perhaps you also need to configure some properties, but that's quite natural. - We don't have a lyqi-mode yet, that's true. We'd like to do one, but didn't have the time yet, so it's half-made. However, LilyPondTool is created for some very important purpose, and some unique features: - code completion - if you like browsing the documentation all the way to find out the exact name and syntax of properties and commands, or you can remember everything you need, don't use it - score setup wizard with customizable templates - if you can easily read and remember the structure of a LilyPond file, and you can find and modify an appropriate lilypond file faster and easier than visually setting up the score and selecting its properties, and then don't use it - lilypond documentation in indexed full-text searchable help - if you like browsing some 10MB HTML files instead of just entering some keywords and quickly browse through the hits, then don't use it - instant error report - if you never make any mistakes, and you always close your braces and beams and slurs, then don't use it - automatic hyphenation of lyrics - if you write lyrics, but you find it easier to manually hyphenate it, instead of leaving it to the OpenOffice hyphenation dictionaries, and just making some corrections (which are needed because text hyphenation is not the same as lyrics), don't use it - macros and templates for many LilyPond constructs and it's easy to create new ones - repeats, articulations applied to note blocks, text markups, general tweaks I must admit that we have some not-working features, but have much more working features than emacs has. And (besides lyqi) we have all features working that emacs has. Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Which frontend?
Thank you for providing LilyPondTool! I have been working with LilyPondTool since I first tried it and it helps me a lot. Works well on Windows XP and Kanotix/Debian. No need for a graphical frontend for me. Thomas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Object hierarchy in LilyPond?
Hello, I'm trying to figure out an overall object hierarchy of LilyPond. The only way I've discovered so far is to traverse programmers guide and follow links. But this is very tedious, since if I want to get something done in non-default way, this approach is very confusing. Could someone please prepare series of charts starting at the reasonable abstract level and ending with hierarchy of all LilyPond object, contexts and however tha various LilyPond parts are named? Thank you. Tomas Valusek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Which frontend?
I personally prefer JLilyPondTool myself over other tools (ok, NoteEdit is a composition tool and cannot count - it's not a typesetter). It's completely cross-platform like Jedit, it's simply installed in Jedit by Plugins-Plugin manager..., update list, select jlilypondtool to install. Beside the features below, I'd like to mention some nice buttons in the toolbar (like run lily, run convert-ly, show preview in gs, show preview in pdf, playback the score) and some shortcuts for things like insert tempo marking, spanner, disable bar numbers etc. I'd like to thank the author for JLilyPondTool, because it speeds up the typesetting in Lily for me very much! Regards. - Matevž Bertalan Fodor wrote: Well, I'm a bit disappointed about what you said about the jEdit+LilyPondTool set. - I can confirm that setting up everything may be more than just to apt-get something. However, as far as I see you may get LilyPondTool running by just downloading Java, jEdit and making three clicks with your mouse in jEdit. Perhaps you also need to configure some properties, but that's quite natural. - We don't have a lyqi-mode yet, that's true. We'd like to do one, but didn't have the time yet, so it's half-made. However, LilyPondTool is created for some very important purpose, and some unique features: - code completion - if you like browsing the documentation all the way to find out the exact name and syntax of properties and commands, or you can remember everything you need, don't use it - score setup wizard with customizable templates - if you can easily read and remember the structure of a LilyPond file, and you can find and modify an appropriate lilypond file faster and easier than visually setting up the score and selecting its properties, and then don't use it - lilypond documentation in indexed full-text searchable help - if you like browsing some 10MB HTML files instead of just entering some keywords and quickly browse through the hits, then don't use it - instant error report - if you never make any mistakes, and you always close your braces and beams and slurs, then don't use it - automatic hyphenation of lyrics - if you write lyrics, but you find it easier to manually hyphenate it, instead of leaving it to the OpenOffice hyphenation dictionaries, and just making some corrections (which are needed because text hyphenation is not the same as lyrics), don't use it - macros and templates for many LilyPond constructs and it's easy to create new ones - repeats, articulations applied to note blocks, text markups, general tweaks I must admit that we have some not-working features, but have much more working features than emacs has. And (besides lyqi) we have all features working that emacs has. Bert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Graham Percival schreef: In all honesty, I'm with Geoff on this one. All the #() stuff looks scary, and having the parser location non-arguments (I mean, they're never referenced in the actual code) was the straw that broke my They are if you do real-world stuff. In particular, the location argument is there so you give a warning message with the correct line numbers, using (ly:input-message location this is an error) the parser argument is there so you can access parser state (eg. for defining new variables). This discussion about having macros and whatnot (which inevitably comes with supposedly easier to understand fragments pseudo-code) is the umpteenth one. Be warned that I won't accept patches that attempt to add any ad-hoc programming/macro language features. This has been my position for the last 10 years, and I don't see any reason to change it. I recommend that people read the GUILE rationale [1] before they attempt to do any cute easy syntax design first. [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html#whatisit The true cost of doing it yourself -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Which frontend?
On Tue 02 May 2006 08:31, Bertalan Fodor wrote: Well, I'm a bit disappointed about what you said about the jEdit+LilyPondTool set. - I can confirm that setting up everything may be more than just to apt-get something. However, as far as I see you may get LilyPondTool running by just downloading Java, jEdit and making three clicks with your mouse in jEdit. Perhaps you also need to configure some properties, but that's quite natural. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone. I certainly didn't mean to be negative about the program, just to point out that (1) it didn't work for me, because of all the java errors I got. As I said, this may not be the fault of Lilypond-mode, but as long as all the nice functions don't work, all I have is a 15 Mb download... - especially since (2) I've found a tool that works perfectly to my satisfaction in emacs/lilypond-mode. This is not to say that other equivalent tools are bad. I did notice the features you mention, and found them very useful, especially the macro/template function, and the error report (although most of the errors I make are 'typos' - writing a wrong note value here and there - which a syntactical error checker will not find). But a lyqi-mode - if you can implement that, that would be a great step forward. (and to continue my previous parenthesis: a great enhancement to the lyqi-mode, or a lyqi-like (lookalike?) mode, would be to have a note following a dotted note automatically set to the next shorter value (e2. f4) unless it's the basic time unit (in 3/4: e2. f2.). ) I promise that I'll have another go at jEdit whenever a new version of java comes out for my distro :-) Eyolf -- Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. -- Sam Brown, The Washington Post, January 26, 1977 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical spacing of lyrics
Hello Lothar,
You didn't say the version you're using, but by your example it is too old
to even compile in the latest version (2.8.0). Well, after I removed \notes,
it did. My first advice is to upgrade you version.
Addressing your need, I think the easiest way is just remove
\lyricsto one \new Lyrics { Lu lu lu lu }
And add these words to the first lyricsto:
La la la la Lu lu lu lu
As to the vertical spacing between lines of lyrics, I'll give you a hint.
See in the manual the SATB template, a line that ends with extent.
Good luck!
Eduardo Vieira
- Original Message -
From: Lotharster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: Vertical spacing of lyrics
I have 2 problems with the vertical spacing of lyrics:
1.) When rendering the lilypond file below, there is very much space
between
the two lyrics lines. How can I reduce that space?
2.) The third part (Lu lu ...) is should be set at the same height as
the
first part (La la ...). How can I achieve that?
Attached is a picture of the rendered output
Regards,
Lothar
The lilypond file:
\score {
\context Voice = one {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'() % 4/4
Takt-Zeichen
\clef violin
\time 4/4
\notes \relative c' {
c4 d e f
g4 f e d
}
}
\lyrics {
\lyricsto one \new Lyrics {
La la la la
}
\lyricsto one \new Lyrics {
Lo lo lo lo
}
\lyricsto one \new Lyrics {
Lu lu lu lu
}
}
}
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Re: Guitar Chords
Chord Mode apparently has little utility in actually scoring notes, unless you want to use block chords. You could try to use fret diagrams with markup, or I think you are stuck manually scoring your chords on a staff. Even if six note chords could be specified it would still be restrictive. There are too many ways a guitar chord could be voiced, IMO. Besides, guitarists don't actually read music, do they? ;-) (just kidding, this guitarist does...) _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Which frontend?
Hello! Is there any front end that allow for skipping between different staffs? For example, if the cursor is at a certain note in one staff, after pressing some key the cursor would jump to a respective note in another staff? Thanks, Artur ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Be warned that I won't accept patches that attempt to add any ad-hoc programming/macro language features. This has been my position for the last 10 years, and I don't see any reason to change it. One reason is that we already have it, although it's well hidden in the manual and described in a way that will scare most people from even trying to use it, even though it in fact is very easy and powerful. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Graham Percival schreef: In all honesty, I'm with Geoff on this one. All the #() stuff looks scary, and having the parser location non-arguments (I mean, they're never referenced in the actual code) was the straw that broke my They are if you do real-world stuff. In particular, the location argument is there so you give a warning message with the correct line numbers, using (ly:input-message location this is an error) the parser argument is there so you can access parser state (eg. for defining new variables). Another issue is that real-world stuff for you is something completely different than doing real-world stuff for most users. They want to be able to typeset music in an efficient way, you want to make a beautiful flexible program. With all respect /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Betweensystemspace
Hallo, I'm trying to put together several pieces of music using lilypond-book and Latex. Whenever a piece has several voices, then the default betweensystemspace doesn't get taken over into the output, and the systems are very (too) close together. Setting betweensystemspace or padding explicitly in \paper also doesn't make any difference. Is there any way of getting around this? Debian (Kanotix) Kernel 2.6.16. Lilypond 2.6.3 Thanks. -- Jeffrey Philpott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Betweensystemspace
It's very hard to guess exactly what you tried without seeing the actual files. Also, you will get much better assistance from the mailing list if you clarify the following: - Have you verified that it's anything particular for lilypond-book or do you see the same in scores typeset directly with lilypond? - Do you mean several staves, when you say several voices? I hope you have realized that betweensystemspace only determines the distance between the systems (score lines) not between the staves within the same line of the score. /Mats Quoting Jeffrey Philpott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, I'm trying to put together several pieces of music using lilypond-book and Latex. Whenever a piece has several voices, then the default betweensystemspace doesn't get taken over into the output, and the systems are very (too) close together. Setting betweensystemspace or padding explicitly in \paper also doesn't make any difference. Is there any way of getting around this? Debian (Kanotix) Kernel 2.6.16. Lilypond 2.6.3 Thanks. -- Jeffrey Philpott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Staff: vertical spacing, reduce chord name distance
Quoting Daniel Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thomas Scharkowski wrote: IIRC in previous versions I could reduce the distance between a staff and chord symbols by this command: \set Staff.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-4 . 1) In 2.8.1 this is: \override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-4 . 1) or did I get something wrong? Reducing the space this way dos not work here, increasing does work. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you Thomas Windows XP You can see what the required code is here; you can also see a bug related to it: http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-lilypond%40gnu.org/msg07067.html In short, you need to set minimum-Y-extent to false, and then set Y-extent to an absolute value instead. But you may encounter stem-length errors on beamed notes. As far as I can tell, this problem has not yet been addressed, even in CVS. The bug was introduced when the VerticalAxisGroup interface was added to the Staff context about midway through the 2.7 development cycle. If you try the example in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-04/msg00745.html you will realize why this solution almost never is what you want. Are you sure that the reason that you didn't see any difference in the example starting this thread was that something in the stave (the G clef or a high note or a text script or ...) was placed so high above the stave that it was more limiting than the minimum-Y-extent setting? /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Macro pre-processors should generate source code, and stream it in, period. Macros have nothing to do with compilation or scheme or c++ or anything else in lilypond. They should just provide some logical constructs like IF/THEN/ELSE, LOOPING, and CASE, and other functions like concatenation/replacement of strings. Allowing one to stream unvalidated strings as source code emerging from a macro, note the macro should not care if the outputted source is valid or not, the macro should not even know it's outputting source code for lilypond, for that matter. Compile time will tell you your errors and if your macros is generating garbage or not. I currently have a 10,000 line LP file that I would LOVE to shorten up by having a flexible macro-pre-processor to generate the source code for me instead of me copy/pasting every time I want to add something. (this particular file is a guitar chords library of fret markups and growing). It has about 5 or 6 lines of source per fret diagram, I know I can write a macro to generate the source code one line per chord in all enharmonic root spellings. Currently each chord with all roots across 20 frets means about 150 source code lines per chord, that could be one source code line with the availability of a macro processor. But with the current music function the compiler keeps getting in my way before I can generate the source code. I just want to output strings into the input stream dynamically, that goes beyond \include files and offers concat, replacement of tokens, and some rudimentary logical constructs, etc. at PRE-compile-time, empasize at PRE-COMPILE-TIME. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Macro-pre-processing--t1406795.html#a4182421 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ChoirStaff: system, staff, and measure number spacing
Hi all, I've been using LilyPond for a while now, and am starting to reach the point where I need to tweak things slightly more than the manual makes clear. Specifically, I have an SATB vocal piece layed out on a ChoirStaff, and I'd like to tweak the following things: 1) Currently LilyPond lays out 2 systems per page, one at the top and one at the bottom. I'd prefer them spaced a little more evenly on the page (ie about the same amount of space between them as is below the second one). 2) I'd like a little more space between lines in the same system; I also suspect I'll need this when I start putting dynamics in. 3) I like the look of the ChoirStaff bracketing the parts together, but the problem is that the bracket collides with the measure numbers at the beginning of each line. This could be solved by tweaking them up a bit, but again, not sure how. I started looking up how to override/tweak properties, but I'm unclear on things such as determining the contexts, and exactly where in the source file these tweaks should be placed. Even seeing how to do just one of these things would probably enable me to get them all. Thanks much! Benedict ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Betweensystemspace
Mats Bengtsson schrieb: It's very hard to guess exactly what you tried without seeing the actual files. Also, you will get much better assistance from the mailing list if you clarify the following: - Have you verified that it's anything particular for lilypond-book or do you see the same in scores typeset directly with lilypond? - Do you mean several staves, when you say several voices? I hope you have realized that betweensystemspace only determines the distance between the systems (score lines) not between the staves within the same line of the score. /Mats Quoting Jeffrey Philpott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, I'm trying to put together several pieces of music using lilypond-book and Latex. Whenever a piece has several voices, then the default betweensystemspace doesn't get taken over into the output, and the systems are very (too) close together. Setting betweensystemspace or padding explicitly in \paper also doesn't make any difference. Is there any way of getting around this? Debian (Kanotix) Kernel 2.6.16. Lilypond 2.6.3 Thanks. -- Jeffrey Philpott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hallo Mats, Sorry for not being too clear on the subject, here's another try! Output of Lilypond itself is perfect, it seems to be lilypond-book. As long as I have one stave then the distances are good. As soon as I use several staves (which I inadvertently called voices), then lilypond-book closes the distance between the systems, and this distance cannot be changed by any tweaks(?). Which is my question. I still have to try to see if I can change the distance between the systems when I have only one stave. -- Jeffrey Philpott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Citerar Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Macro pre-processors should generate source code, and stream it in, period. I just want to output strings into the input stream dynamically, that goes beyond \include files and offers concat, replacement of tokens, and some rudimentary logical constructs, etc. at PRE-compile-time, empasize at PRE-COMPILE-TIME. Why don't you use an existing general-purpose preprocessor (m4, cpp, gpp, ..)? Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Kile and Lilypond-Book Howto
On Tue 02 May 2006 06:23, Josiah Boothby wrote: On 5/1/06, Lothar Schmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... For lilypond-book projects, I have set Kile up to make things easy. ... How did you set up Kile? I tried to configure it to produce output with lilypond, but gave up after two hours in frustration. A small Howto would be really great! Go to Settings - Configure Kile... - Build [etc] Wonderful instructions! Thanks. eyolf -- Look, we play the Star Spangled Banner before every game. You want us to pay income taxes, too? -- Bill Veeck, Chicago White Sox ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Block diagram of LilyPond
Title: Re: Block diagram of LilyPond I bet what is meant here is a block diagram of contexts and whatever. I'd find that useful as well. From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:16:05 +0200 To: Tomas Valusek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Block diagram of LilyPond What target group do you have in mind? Unless you are a programmer, I don't really see how it would help an ordinary music typesetter. /Mats Quoting Tomas Valusek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, has anyone created a block diagram of LilyPond, which would show data flow, relationship between various modules, etc? It would be great help for obtaining global idea what LilyPond's about. Tomas Valusek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
On 5/2/06, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macro pre-processors should generate source code, and stream it in, period. Macros have nothing to do with compilation or scheme or c++ or anything else in lilypond. I much prefer the way Scheme handles macros. It seems somewhat unlikely, but I wonder if it would be possible to create a macro system for LilyPond that makes a smooth transition into a macro system for Scheme. It would, I think, generally be cool if LilyPond meshed better with Scheme. I guess such things will be easier to explore once music streams are finished. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Probably becasause I'm unaware of them. I spend my spare time arranging music and getting ready for gigs. If there are canned macro processors that can do this then I should look into learning one of them. And if thats the case then maybe the developers time would be better off being spent on core LP enhancements instead of macros. I will Google for something that may work for me. Thanks Erik Sandberg wrote: Citerar Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Macro pre-processors should generate source code, and stream it in, period. I just want to output strings into the input stream dynamically, that goes beyond \include files and offers concat, replacement of tokens, and some rudimentary logical constructs, etc. at PRE-compile-time, empasize at PRE-COMPILE-TIME. Why don't you use an existing general-purpose preprocessor (m4, cpp, gpp, ..)? Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Macro-pre-processing--t1406795.html#a4197956 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Thanks, being a musician I was unaware of such a program. I'll go buy the m4 Windows XP version after I look at a demo version. I need to generate chord fret markup of each chord form in all enharmonic spellings at every neck position, as a \include library of diagrams. This is 200-300 lines of markup per chord, considering that I will be doing maybe 1000 or so chord forms, thats a big LP file of 200,000 lines or so and over 26,000 variable names (1000 chords times 26 enharmonic root name spellings at all positions)! Each markup is assigned to a different variable, then I just do a \include of this chord library file to have all my chord forms available when doing arrangements. I have a naming standard where the variable names dont get duplicated, I just need a macro processor to generate each diagram at all fret positions and with all the possible enharmonic root names. Having this library will same future time not having to re-create the diagrams from scratch in each song. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Macro-pre-processing--t1406795.html#a4198607 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Guitar Chords
Here is a recent arrangement I did of Danny Boy using only the fretboard markup commands: http://www.windcrestsoftware.com/Rick/DannyBoy.pdf It uses the terse syntax and does the chord names with markup also, it's working out pretty good so I'll prpbably begin doing all may backlogged arrangements similarly. So I have complete control over the chord names. I'm a new LP user. I'll be adding a polyphony staff too once I get the bass line rhythm worked out, right now it only shows a melody line. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Guitar-Chords-t1542083.html#a4198156 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
On 5/2/06, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, being a musician I was unaware of such a program. I'll go buy the m4 Windows XP version after I look at a demo version. m4 is free for Cygwin. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Kile and Lilypond-Book Howto
Thanks very much! Lothar Schmid ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
I have used M4 as a preprocessor, and it worked quite well. Then I found out the proper construct for what I wanted to do, so I dropped it on that little project. But I wouldn't hesitate to use it again if I got stuck like I was at that time. M4: http://www.gnu.org/software/m4/ Werner LEMBERG wrote: LilyPond is powerful, and I'd like to see more of that power made more easily accessible. I'm not asking for changes to the basic syntax at all--anything I'd come up with would be a totally optional pre-pass system. Try m4. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Joe Ferguson ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical spacing of lyrics
On 5/2/06, Eduardo Vieira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Lothar,You didn't say the version you're using, but by your example it is too oldto even compile in the latest version (2.8.0). Well, after I removed \notes,it did. My first advice is to upgrade you version.
I'm using version 2.2.6. I'd like to upgrade, but 2.2.6 is the only
version that is supported by my distribution (debian sarge). As far as
I know, there are no .deb - packages available.Addressing your need, I think the easiest way is just remove
\lyricsto one \new Lyrics {Lu lu lu lu}And add these words to the first lyricsto: La la la la Lu lu lu lu
The problem is that I am working on a larger song, which contains
several double lines, as well as some longer sections with only one
lyrics line. Adding all these lines to one lyrics _expression_
would be very difficult. Isn't there some easier way?
As to the vertical spacing between lines of lyrics, I'll give you a hint.See in the manual the SATB template, a line that ends with extent.
Thanks, that one worked!
Good luck!Eduardo Vieira
Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Lothar
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Re: Macro pre-processing?
I've used it quite a bit as well, but that was a couple of years ago. More recently, Han-Wen has shown be how I could achieve most of what I needed using better integrated constructs. M4 worked fine, quoting kind of killed me though... D. Quoting joe ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have used M4 as a preprocessor, and it worked quite well. Then I found out the proper construct for what I wanted to do, so I dropped it on that little project. But I wouldn't hesitate to use it again if I got stuck like I was at that time. M4: http://www.gnu.org/software/m4/ Werner LEMBERG wrote: LilyPond is powerful, and I'd like to see more of that power made more easily accessible. I'm not asking for changes to the basic syntax at all--anything I'd come up with would be a totally optional pre-pass system. Try m4. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Joe Ferguson ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Bar numbers collision
Is this bug going to be correct? A whole month is passed ad this bug is still in the stable release of lilypond :-( ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
David Feuer wrote: On 5/2/06, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, being a musician I was unaware of such a program. I'll go buy the m4 Windows XP version after I look at a demo version. m4 is free for Cygwin. cygwin isn't even necessary. A lot of GNU (free) software has been ported to MS Windows. Just Google for 'm4 for Windows'. Paul Scott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
rest positioning failure
dear all,
why does b4/rest in the following file.ly position the rest - exactly like
r4 - to f'' (see the attached pdf output), while a4/rest and c4/rest
would work as expected? Is there a special command apart from tweaking to
enforce the b' position?
martin
% start file.ly
\version 2.7.40
\score {
\context PianoStaff
\new Staff { \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility =
#all-invisible
% Sopran
{ \key f \major \relative c'
{ \partial 4*1 f a g a bes c2 a4\fermata
d c bes a g a2 \fermata
b4\rest c d e f e d2 c4\fermata
a bes a g g f2.\fermata \bar |. } } \\
% Alt
{ \relative c' { } }
}
\new Staff {
% Tenor
{ \clef F \key f \major \relative c
{ } } \\
% Bass
{ \relative c
{ \hideNotes
c4 c c c c c c c
c4 c c c c c c c
c4 c c c c c c c
c4 c c c c c c c \unHideNotes } }
}
\layout {
indent = 00
ragged-right = ##t
ragged-last = ##t
\context { }
}
\midi {
\tempo 4 = 92
}
}
% end file.ly
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Re: Vertical spacing of lyrics
Lothar wrote:
I'm using version 2.2.6. I'd like to upgrade, but 2.2.6 is the only version
that is supported by my distribution (debian sarge). As far as I know, there
are no .deb - packages available.
Don't those universal installers that Lilypond provides work for your
system?
The problem is that I am working on a larger song, which contains several
double lines, as well as some longer sections with only one lyrics line.
Adding all these lines to one lyrics expression would be very difficult.
Isn't there some easier way?
You could try this. I don't know if it will be easier:
\context Voice = one { ... } \context Voice = two { ... } etc
then assign lyrics to each Voice that will correspond to a section of your
score, like:
\context Lyrics = verseone \lyricsto one { ... }
\context Lyrics = verseone \lyricsto two { ... }
\context Lyrics = verseTwo \lyricsto one { ... }
I hope I didn't confuse you even more:)
Eduardo Vieira
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Hara_kiri_engraver
How do I specifiy a specific Staff? \remove Axis_group_engraver \consistsHara_kiri_engraver I don't want this to apply to the PianoStaff. Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Block diagram of LilyPond
On Saturday 29 April 2006 12:30, Tomas Valusek wrote: Hello, has anyone created a block diagram of LilyPond, which would show data flow, relationship between various modules, etc? It would be great help for obtaining global idea what LilyPond's about. I have a created one in my master thesis, see home.student.uu.se/ersa9195/report.pdf it is however incomplete because the thesis is quite unrelated to the back-end parts of lily (so it won't help you with grobs, for example). -- Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Hara_kiri_engraver
- Original Message -
From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: Hara_kiri_engraver
How do I specifiy a specific Staff?
I found the answer: use \with to bind a layout command to a specific Staff.
My score block looks like this:
\score {
\header {
piece = Moderately
}
\context Staff = Vocal
\with {
\remove Axis_group_engraver \consists Hara_kiri_engraver
} \transpose c c' \melody
\lyricsto singer \context Lyrics \words
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff = upper \transpose c c' \upper
\dynamics
\context Staff = lower \lower
}
\remove Axis_group_engraver \consistsHara_kiri_engraver
I don't want this to apply to the PianoStaff.
Stephen
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