Re: Printing tempo marks on every part

2006-09-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson

By default, rehearsal marks will only appear above the top stave of
each score line. If you want it to appear over more staves, you just
include the corresponding engraver into the Staff contexts where you
want the marks, see 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-04/msg00062.html

for an example.
This has really nothing to do with filtering out information using \tag or
whatever, which has been the main focus of this thread.

  /Mats

David A. Greene wrote:

David A. Greene wrote:


parts.  For example, in an SATB score, the rehearsal letters should
appear in all parts but I only want dynamics displayed in one part
(say, the alto) to keep clutter down. 


Slight correction.  One would like the rehearsal letters to appear
on one of either the soprano or alto parts and one of the tenor or
bass parts along with any descant part.

 -Dave


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Re: Markup support for tables?

2006-09-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The following solution gives the alignment, the backside is that you 
have to

input the table entries column by column instead of row by row:

\markup{\column{A DD GGG} \column {B EE HHH} \column {C FF III}}

  /Mats

Kieren MacMillan wrote:


Hi, Trevor --


Is there any markup support for making tables? I think what I'm
looking for is just tabs so that different columns of stuff can align.



I took a quick stab, but got only partial results [didn't figure out  
how to dictate the column alignment].
Unfortunately, I have to get back to editing my CD, so I can't put  
more time in right now.


Hope this sample gets you going in the right direction!
If you end up with a good solution, please be sure to repost the tip  
to the list.


Best,
Kieren.
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%%%  BEGIN SNIPPET  %%%

\version "2.9.17"

\paper
{
ragged-right = ##t
line-width = 120\mm
}

\markup
{
\column
{
\fill-line { "a" "b" "c" }
\fill-line { "1" "2" "3" }
\fill-line { "Kieren" "wrote" "this!" }
}
}

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Re: Markup support for tables?

2006-09-05 Thread Trevor Bača

Thanks, Kieren.

I'll definitely use this as a starting point and see what I can come up with.

(Good luck on the CD, too.)

Trevor.

On 9/5/06, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi, Trevor --

> Is there any markup support for making tables? I think what I'm
> looking for is just tabs so that different columns of stuff can align.

I took a quick stab, but got only partial results [didn't figure out
how to dictate the column alignment].
Unfortunately, I have to get back to editing my CD, so I can't put
more time in right now.

Hope this sample gets you going in the right direction!
If you end up with a good solution, please be sure to repost the tip
to the list.

Best,
Kieren.
__

%%%  BEGIN SNIPPET  %%%

\version "2.9.17"

\paper
{
ragged-right = ##t
line-width = 120\mm
}

\markup
{
\column
{
\fill-line { "a" "b" "c" }
\fill-line { "1" "2" "3" }
\fill-line { "Kieren" "wrote" "this!" }
}
}

%%%  END SNIPPET  %%%






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Re: Markup support for tables?

2006-09-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi, Trevor --


Is there any markup support for making tables? I think what I'm
looking for is just tabs so that different columns of stuff can align.


I took a quick stab, but got only partial results [didn't figure out  
how to dictate the column alignment].
Unfortunately, I have to get back to editing my CD, so I can't put  
more time in right now.


Hope this sample gets you going in the right direction!
If you end up with a good solution, please be sure to repost the tip  
to the list.


Best,
Kieren.
__

%%%  BEGIN SNIPPET  %%%

\version "2.9.17"

\paper
{
ragged-right = ##t
line-width = 120\mm
}

\markup
{
\column
{
\fill-line { "a" "b" "c" }
\fill-line { "1" "2" "3" }
\fill-line { "Kieren" "wrote" "this!" }
}
}

%%%  END SNIPPET  %%%




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Markup support for tables?

2006-09-05 Thread Trevor Bača

Hi,

Is there any markup support for making tables? I think what I'm
looking for is just tabs so that different columns of stuff can align.

Or better to concoct in some external program and insert as EPS?

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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

If you give a man a fish he will only eat for a day...

But if you teach a man to fish...

He will sit in a hot boat drinking beer, getting sunburned, and drowning
worms all his life.






Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> 
> Hello, all --
> 
> Since you're all talking about me, I thought I'd jump in here...  ;-)
> 
> Ian wrote:
>> it isn't the "quickest" solution.
> 
> Firstly, my goal wasn't to give David "the answer", because I don't  
> think there *is* just a single one; my goal was to point him to the  
> threads that deal with the issue he asked about, so that he could  
> follow the leads/links and make up his own mind on the answer that  
> best fits his specific situation, etc.
> 
> Secondly, I'm pretty sure I typed that list of instructions in less  
> time than it would have taken me to go through multiple web pages,  
> waiting out the load time in each case, copying and pasting the  
> (multiple) potentially useful URLs, etc.
> 
> In other words, I thought at the time -- and, for the record, still  
> believe now -- that my response *was* the quickest solution to the  
> problem I was trying to solve. And since I was the one who actually  
> responded to David's post, that's really the only relevant yardstick  
> for that particular determination, regardless of how much anybody  
> else debates it.
> 
>> we didn't give him a URL did we.
> 
> Nope -- and I would (will) do the same thing again, all other things  
> being equal!
> If someone asks a question that I think has a single answer, I'll  
> give them that answer; otherwise, I'll give them the tools they can  
> use to find the multiple answers, and then determine the one THEY  
> think is best.
> 
>> Do you understand the meaning of the word "condescending"?
> 
> D'uh, gee, I think so...
> This whole response of yours... that was condescending, right?
> ___
> 
> Stewart responded with:
>> I think this whole discussion is becoming increasingly ridiculous
> 
> Agreed.
> 
>> I'm sure that Kieren had no intention of being condescending
> 
> True. That being said, I *did* have that exact intention with my  
> "D'uh, gee, I think so..." comment in *this* email!  ;-)
> 
>> Give a man food, and he can live for a week. Teach him to farm, and  
>> he can feed himself for a lifetime.
> 
> Couldn't have said it better myself.
> 
> Best regards,
> Kieren.
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Re: Printing tempo marks on every part

2006-09-05 Thread David A. Greene

Markus Schneider wrote:


In pseudo code this would look like this:

somevoice = { }

partWithAllMarksAndStuff = {}

\addquote framework \partWithAllMarksAndStuff


I tried this but lily 2.9.17 chokes on the \addquote:

Interpreting music... make: *** [test.pdf] Segmentation fault

If I comment that line and the uses of quoteDuring, it doesn't
segfault.  Commenting just the quoteDuring doesn't help.  It's
the addquote that causes the problem.

Anything I can do to help debug this?  I can produce a testcase
eventually, but probably not right now due to time constraints.

I'll try 2.8 and see if that works.

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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hello, all --

Since you're all talking about me, I thought I'd jump in here...  ;-)

Ian wrote:

it isn't the "quickest" solution.


Firstly, my goal wasn't to give David "the answer", because I don't  
think there *is* just a single one; my goal was to point him to the  
threads that deal with the issue he asked about, so that he could  
follow the leads/links and make up his own mind on the answer that  
best fits his specific situation, etc.


Secondly, I'm pretty sure I typed that list of instructions in less  
time than it would have taken me to go through multiple web pages,  
waiting out the load time in each case, copying and pasting the  
(multiple) potentially useful URLs, etc.


In other words, I thought at the time -- and, for the record, still  
believe now -- that my response *was* the quickest solution to the  
problem I was trying to solve. And since I was the one who actually  
responded to David's post, that's really the only relevant yardstick  
for that particular determination, regardless of how much anybody  
else debates it.



we didn't give him a URL did we.


Nope -- and I would (will) do the same thing again, all other things  
being equal!
If someone asks a question that I think has a single answer, I'll  
give them that answer; otherwise, I'll give them the tools they can  
use to find the multiple answers, and then determine the one THEY  
think is best.



Do you understand the meaning of the word "condescending"?


D'uh, gee, I think so...
This whole response of yours... that was condescending, right?
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Stewart responded with:

I think this whole discussion is becoming increasingly ridiculous


Agreed.


I'm sure that Kieren had no intention of being condescending


True. That being said, I *did* have that exact intention with my  
"D'uh, gee, I think so..." comment in *this* email!  ;-)


Give a man food, and he can live for a week. Teach him to farm, and  
he can feed himself for a lifetime.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

Best regards,
Kieren.


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Fw: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread Stewart Holmes



I think this whole 
discussion is becoming increasingly ridiculous, but here's a thought; the next 
time the same person is stuck with something, I bet they'll now search through 
the archives; maybe they previously didn't know they were 
searchable.

 
I'm sure that Kieren had no intention of being 
condescending; and it certainly wouldn't have hurt for David to have given him 
the benefit of the doubt.
 
Let me counter your anecdote with a similar line: Give a man food, and he 
can live for a week. Teach him to farm, and he can feed himself for a 
lifetime.
 
Stewart

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ian Hawthorn 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Swing Eighths Marking
  Markus Schneider wrote: 
  
Have you ever considered that your question has
probably been already discussed, and that showing you the right
keyword for searching is the quickest solution.
No it isn't the "quickest" solution. the 
  "quickest" solution wouldhave been to just give the guy a URL, as we see 
  in another responsebelow.
  ... indeed it has and an almost "ready-to-use" example can be found here:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=20
  But we didn't give him a URL did we. We gave him step by 
  step  instructions on how to search an archive for a keyword. Even 
  though it was actually a lot more effort to write out those step by 
  step instructions that it would have been to paste a URL. Do you 
  understand the meaning of the word "condescending"? People know when they 
  are being talked down to.An anecdote:I teach for a living. The 
  other day a university student (well - a management student anyways) asked 
  me in all honesty how many zeroes there were in a million because they 
  truly didn't know. Hard to believe I know - but true. And an astounding 
  inditement of modern education I agree. I could have expressed my 
  astonishment loudly and vocally and made witty comments in a 
  "condescending"  (that word again) tone of voice. I could have turned 
  this into a joke for the rest of the class. But apart from inflating my 
  own ego and crushing the fragile ego of the student, what would that have 
  achieved? This student trusted me enough to ask this question in the first 
  place mostly because they knew by then that I don't play those kind of 
  games. Think about it.
  
  

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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread Graham Percival

David Greene wrote:

Graham Percival wrote:


Sent on Aug 28:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2006-08/msg00146.html

If you want to volunteer, great!  I'm available to discuss any portion 
of this.


I would very happily do this, but I have to finish typesetting my
current project first.  I have a deadline in a couple of days.
Perhaps sometime this weekend I could get started.


Ok, great!


I see there are a lot of "ask Sebastino to" items.  I'm new here
so I don't have all the context.  Is there some reason I could not
handle these items myself given proper access to the relevant
repositories?


I don't think you need more access at the moment; anybody can download 
LSR sorted into these categories.



 It seems like a pretty straightforward Perl script
should do the trick.


Yes -- OTOH, the file names for LSR snippets are only created for this 
purpose, so it doesn't make sense to do "snippet name" (LSR) -> 
"snippet_name" (download from LSR) -> "snippet-name" (tips and tricks 
format).


However, if you're comfortable with Perl, then by all means rename the 
files yourself for a test run, so we don't need to bother Sebastino 
until we're certain what we want to change.


Cheers,
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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread David Greene

Graham Percival wrote:


Sent on Aug 28:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2006-08/msg00146.html

If you want to volunteer, great!  I'm available to discuss any portion 
of this.


I would very happily do this, but I have to finish typesetting my
current project first.  I have a deadline in a couple of days.
Perhaps sometime this weekend I could get started.

I see there are a lot of "ask Sebastino to" items.  I'm new here
so I don't have all the context.  Is there some reason I could not
handle these items myself given proper access to the relevant
repositories?  It seems like a pretty straightforward Perl script
should do the trick.

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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread Ian Hawthorn




Markus Schneider wrote:

  
Have you ever considered that your question has
probably been already discussed, and that showing you the right
keyword for searching is the quickest solution.

  

No it isn't the "quickest" solution. the "quickest" solution would
have been to just give the guy a URL, as we see in another response
below.

  ... indeed it has and an almost "ready-to-use" example can be found here:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=20
  

But we didn't give him a URL did we. We gave him step by step  
instructions on how to search an archive for a keyword. Even 
though it was actually a lot more effort to write out those step 
by step instructions that it would have been to paste a URL. 
Do you understand the meaning of the word "condescending"? 
People know when they are being talked down to.

An anecdote:

I teach for a living. The other day a university student (well - a 
management student anyways) asked me in all honesty how 
many zeroes there were in a million because they truly didn't 
know. Hard to believe I know - but true. And an astounding 
inditement of modern education I agree. I could have expressed 
my astonishment loudly and vocally and made witty comments in 
a "condescending"  (that word again) tone of voice. I could have 
turned this into a joke for the rest of the class. But apart from 
inflating my own ego and crushing the fragile ego of the student, 
what would that have achieved? This student trusted me enough 
to ask this question in the first place mostly because they knew 
by then that I don't play those kind of games. 

Think about it.




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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread Graham Percival

David Greene wrote:

It's good that you mention that here because I was thinking about
something last night.  Would it not be possible to suck out all
the snippets from the LSR and format them similarly to the existing
"tips and tricks" documentation?


Sent on Aug 28:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2006-08/msg00146.html

If you want to volunteer, great!  I'm available to discuss any portion 
of this.


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Re: Tag Schmag

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

Whenever I cant get an answer from the fine manual (and I do mean fine, it is
a good manual for most things).  My next course is to go get the regression
file or test input file for what I'm trying to understand, usually that
solves the problem or at least points me to something I can begin to try
out.  If I'm still at a loss, I search LSR but rarely do I find an answer
there.  Next I search the list.  By the time I'm asking a question, I know
i've been stumped and need an expert.  The regression files are a goldmine,
I hope that work continues to expand.




Carrick Patterson-2 wrote:
> 
> If there is ANYBODY out there who can figure out how to use \tag and its
> related commands from the Lilypond documentation I would like to shake
> this
> person's hand and buy him a Daniel Webster cigar.
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Re: Embedded Tex plugin for MS Word

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

I've been outputting my passages from lilypond to PNG, then just including
the PNG files in the Word document via a graphic link.  To get the PNG
dimensions correct I've added "bogus" small paper form sizes to my system
print server, then I specify those paper sizes in the LP code that generates
that snippet.  Some paper sizes are like 1 inch high by 3 inch wide.  In
Word if you link to the graphics instead of embedding them then they will
always be "up to date", then you can re-run the LP jobs and have your Word
document automatically be correct.  As long as LP is depositing the updated
graphics to the expected locations of the graphics in the Word document.




JR_Moneybags wrote:
> 
> I'm new to Lilypond and looking forwards to getting to know it a little
> better.
> 
> I spotted a plugin for Word, called "Embedded Tex -
> http://www.sunlightd.com/EmbeddedTeX/Music.aspx";, that would include
> lilypond into documents. As a musicology student, I can see this being
> very useful. However I am unable to get the program to work correctly.
> 
> Is there anyone out there that is using this program effectively and can
> offer some assistance? OR Is there simply a better way to include passages
> into documents.
> 
> Cheers
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Re: Rotated (instrument name) text

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

Thanks for this helpful tip!



Henrik Frisk-3 wrote:
> 
> Mark Pim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Version 2.8.6 under WinXP
>> 
>> Is there any way to rotate a markup (specifically an instrument name) by
>> 90 degrees?
>>  
> See the snippet below.
> 
> \score {
>   \relative c' {
>   c4^\markup {\rotate #90.0 {"hello"}}
>   c4^\markup {\column {"h" "e" "l" "l" "o"}}
>   }
> }
> 
> Best,
> 
> /Henrik
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Re: polyphony & placement of accidentals

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

Thanks...

cadenzaOn has many hidden uses.  I also use it when doing a \stopStaff
\startStaff just prior to a Coda ending, I can then add some invisible notes
to space out the "hidden" bar without affecting my measure number counter. 
Getting horizontal whitespace in front of a final coda.



Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've found a trick to move the bes left, and the c right.
> 
> \context Voice="oben" {
>\stemUp
>\clef "G"
>\key  f \major
>\time 3/8
> g   8
> c   ''  16
> b   '   16
> \cadenzaOn
> s32  c   ''   8   % a space before the c, which moves it on the right
>   }
>   \\
>   \context Voice="unten" {
>\stemDown
> g   8
> bes ' 8
> \cadenzaOn
> bes ' 8  s32 %a space after the c, which moves it on the left
>   }
> 
> 
> I often use the \cadenzaOn to insert spaces with s to move notes. Maybe
> someone will find something
> more "élégant" !
> 
> I've run lily on this trick, and it appears that beaming has changed and
> is not perfect : I think
> you'll find something to solve this pb !
> 
> Regards
> 
> JMarc
> 
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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread David Greene

Markus Schneider wrote:

Have you ever considered that your question has
probably been already discussed, and that showing you the right
keyword for searching is the quickest solution.

... indeed it has and an almost "ready-to-use" example can be found here:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=204


It's good that you mention that here because I was thinking about
something last night.  Would it not be possible to suck out all
the snippets from the LSR and format them similarly to the existing
"tips and tricks" documentation?  Couldn't we just generate an
appendix of idioms, give them nice section headings, etc?  The
lily code and pdfs are already there.  Slap it onto the end of
the existing documentation and call it good enough for now.

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Re: Repeat Alternatives w/o Repeat Bar

2006-09-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson

If I'm not mistaken, you can use an ordinary \repeat command and
replace the repeat bars with whatever other bar type you wish
using the \bar command, for example \bar "||".

  /Mats

Quoting "David A. Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Paul Scott wrote:

David A. Greene wrote:

Is it possible to typeset volta-style alternatives without generating
a repeat bar?  I'm typesetting an SATB score and would like it to look
something like this:
  _  
   | To verses   || To coda|
 ... notes | notes | notes  verse pickup || notes  coda pickup
 D.C. D.C.
|| verse one || verse two || coda |.

Hopefully that makes sense.  I'm looking at a choir book and this is
how it's typeset there.

Anyone done this before?

You don't say what version you are using.  For 2.9.x and 2.8.x this is
documented under


Manual repeat commands.


Using 2.9.17.  I looked at that and I think I know how to do it but
I was hoping there was a way to specify this but retain the nice
useage of volta and \unrollRepeats for midi output.  I suppose I
just have to choose one or the other since Lily doesn't seem to have
built-in segno, coda, D.C. or D.S. commands that could be taken into
account for midi output.  Is there any sort of plan for that in the
future?

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Re: Capo chords

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

I'm a guitarist, usually capo usage is only suggested in a score but is not
mandatory.  Something at the beginning like "capo 3rd fret".  The chord
names should always reflect what is actually sounded for the key written, in
case somebody who does not own a capo also wants to play your song.  If I
saw C(A) in a score I would probably play an A minor chord or a C6 chord, it
would never dawn on me that A meant something other than A, or I may
confusedly play a polychord of C over A.  I know this does not answer your
question though.

But the easy way to get your "dual named" chords to come out is with the
chord name exceptions list.  This list allows you to traslate the default
generated markup of a chord name into anything you want, the root names will
still participate in transposition and you can code the (A-form) tags into
the exception rule and those wont transpose (they would be treated similar
to m7 or m7b5, etc).  Search this archive for how to set up a chord names
exception list and use it in your code, there is a good example out here
(search for jazzychords).  If you cant find it then mail me offline and I'll
send you some sample code when I get home.

If you do use this notation I would definitely include an explanation on the
page.


Rick



Tim Packer wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I hope I'm not missing something obvious, but I couldn't see anything on
> this 
> in either the archives or the documentation
> 
> I'm notating music with a melody and guitar chords to be played with a
> capo on 
> the guitar, and I'd like to include two chord names at each point: the
> actual 
> chord and the chord shape played, for example "C (A)" for a piece played
> with a 
> capo on the guitar at the 3rd fret (meaning the shape used is A major, but
> the 
> chord sounded is C major, because the guitar is transposed up 3 semitones
> by 
> the capo).
> 
> By using ChordNames and \transpose I can include *either* of these, but I
> can't 
> find a way to include both (putting in a second ChordNames environment
> leads to 
> the software trying to work out a chord that's a combination of the
> transposed 
> and untransposed notes!).  I suppose I could hack it with manual text, but
> that 
> would be icky.
> 
> I'm using Lilypond 2.2.6, but I'd be happy to upgrade if there's a
> solution in 
> a later version.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> If this isn't a currently available feature, I'd suggest it would be a
> useful 
> thing to implement, as capo chords are very common in popular music books.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
>   Tim
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Capo chords

2006-09-05 Thread Tim Packer

Hi all,

I hope I'm not missing something obvious, but I couldn't see anything on this 
in either the archives or the documentation


I'm notating music with a melody and guitar chords to be played with a capo on 
the guitar, and I'd like to include two chord names at each point: the actual 
chord and the chord shape played, for example "C (A)" for a piece played with a 
capo on the guitar at the 3rd fret (meaning the shape used is A major, but the 
chord sounded is C major, because the guitar is transposed up 3 semitones by 
the capo).


By using ChordNames and \transpose I can include *either* of these, but I can't 
find a way to include both (putting in a second ChordNames environment leads to 
the software trying to work out a chord that's a combination of the transposed 
and untransposed notes!).  I suppose I could hack it with manual text, but that 
would be icky.


I'm using Lilypond 2.2.6, but I'd be happy to upgrade if there's a solution in 
a later version.


Any suggestions?

If this isn't a currently available feature, I'd suggest it would be a useful 
thing to implement, as capo chords are very common in popular music books.


Thanks for your time,

Tim
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Re: Repeat Alternatives w/o Repeat Bar

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

I might be tempted to pitch in some helper money to get DC and DS Al Coda
functionality that can generate the marks and have the option to insert
whitespace in front of a coda passage, recognize the flow for midi, error
out if the targetcoda, tocoda or targetsegno are missing, etc.  IOW possibly
add "\DCAlCoda" and "\DSAlCoda" functions that react to the presence of
\targetSegno and \targetCoda and \toCoda elsewhere in the piece.  Or maybe
use "named" \targetSegno, \toCoda and \targetCoda commands that the
\DCAlCoda and \DSAlCoda functions could refer to, for cases where a piece
has multiple coda jumps.

Right now I am doing all this with \mark commands as markup in conjuction
with volta alternatives, I'm using \stopStaff and \startStaff to insert the
whitespace and force re-appearance of the clef, key, time for the coda
passage.  None of it responds to midi flow of course, but it looks nice. 
Functionalizing this I think would be a popular enhancement, since so much
music makes heavy use DC or DS al coda.  I would say fully 90% of the pieces
I notate use DC or DS Al Coda.





Paul Scott-3 wrote:
> 
> David A. Greene wrote:
>> Paul Scott wrote:
>>> David A. Greene wrote:
 Is it possible to typeset volta-style alternatives without generating
 a repeat bar?  I'm typesetting an SATB score and would like it to look
 something like this:
   _  
| To verses   || To coda|
  ... notes | notes | notes  verse pickup || notes  coda pickup
  D.C. D.C.
 || verse one || verse two || coda |.

 Hopefully that makes sense.  I'm looking at a choir book and this is
 how it's typeset there.

 Anyone done this before?
>>> You don't say what version you are using.  For 2.9.x and 2.8.x this is
>>> documented under
>>>
>>>
>>> Manual repeat commands.
>>
>> Using 2.9.17.  I looked at that and I think I know how to do it but
>> I was hoping there was a way to specify this but retain the nice
>> useage of volta and \unrollRepeats for midi output.  I suppose I
>> just have to choose one or the other since Lily doesn't seem to have
>> built-in segno, coda, D.C. or D.S. commands that could be taken into
>> account for midi output.  Is there any sort of plan for that in the
>> future?
> I can't answer that.  Hopefully someone else will.
> 
> I'll bet you could get a group to sponsor that.  I might contribute if
> it got smart versions of D.C., etc.
> 
> Paul
> 
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Re: Repeat Alternatives w/o Repeat Bar

2006-09-05 Thread David Greene

Paul Scott wrote:


Manual repeat commands.

Using 2.9.17.  I looked at that and I think I know how to do it but
I was hoping there was a way to specify this but retain the nice
useage of volta and \unrollRepeats for midi output.  I suppose I
just have to choose one or the other since Lily doesn't seem to have
built-in segno, coda, D.C. or D.S. commands that could be taken into
account for midi output.  Is there any sort of plan for that in the
future?

I can't answer that.  Hopefully someone else will.

I'll bet you could get a group to sponsor that.  I might contribute if
it got smart versions of D.C., etc.


Ok, I'll throw out the question.  What are we looking at in
terms of cost to produce this functionality?  I would be very
happy to contribute.

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Re: Swing Eighths Marking

2006-09-05 Thread Markus Schneider
> Have you ever considered that your question has
> probably been already discussed, and that showing you the right
> keyword for searching is the quickest solution.
... indeed it has and an almost "ready-to-use" example can be found here:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=204

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Re: polyphony & placement of accidentals

2006-09-05 Thread Luc

Hi JMarc

Thanks for this  inventive solution!

As you state yourself, the beaming gets confused and I am afraid of looking 
for a solution to that problem...


I can live with the way it looks now, I just thought you could make it more 
readable.


Rgds
Luc


- Original Message - 
From: "Jean-marc LEGRAND" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: polyphony & placement of accidentals







Hi

I've found a trick to move the bes left, and the c right.

\context Voice="oben" {
  \stemUp
  \clef "G"
  \key  f \major
  \time 3/8
   g   8
   c   ''  16
   b   '   16
\cadenzaOn
s32  c   ''   8   % a space before the c, which moves it on the right
 }
 \\
 \context Voice="unten" {
  \stemDown
   g   8
   bes ' 8
\cadenzaOn
   bes ' 8  s32 %a space after the c, which moves it on the left
 }


I often use the \cadenzaOn to insert spaces with s to move notes. Maybe 
someone will find something

more "élégant" !

I've run lily on this trick, and it appears that beaming has changed and 
is not perfect : I think

you'll find something to solve this pb !

Regards

JMarc






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Re: Rotated (instrument name) text

2006-09-05 Thread Henrik Frisk
Mark Pim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Version 2.8.6 under WinXP
> 
> Is there any way to rotate a markup (specifically an instrument name) by 90 
> degrees?
>  
See the snippet below.

\score {
  \relative c' {
  c4^\markup {\rotate #90.0 {"hello"}}
  c4^\markup {\column {"h" "e" "l" "l" "o"}}
  }
}

Best,

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Rotated (instrument name) text

2006-09-05 Thread Mark Pim
Version 2.8.6 under WinXP

Is there any way to rotate a markup (specifically an instrument name) by 90 
degrees?
 
Sorry if this is a double posting (I don't think it is)
 
Many thanks,
Mark


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Re: polyphony & placement of accidentals

2006-09-05 Thread luc
Luc  smooth.ch> writes:

> 
> In this measure under Windows XP, the notehead of the last "bes" is  
> separated from the accidental by the upper voice - can this be remedied?
> 
> \version "2.8.6"
> 
> \score {
>   <<
>\override Staff.NoteCollision  #'merge-differently-headed = ##t
>\override Staff.NoteCollision  #'merge-differently-dotted = ##t
>#(set-accidental-style 'modern)
> 
>\context Voice="oben" {
> \stemUp
> \clef "G"
> \key  f \major
> \time 3/8
>  g   8
>  c   ''  16
>  b   '   16
>  c   ''   8
>}
>\\
>\context Voice="unten" {
> \stemDown
>  g   8
>  bes ' 8
>  bes ' 8
>}
>   >>
>   \layout {ragged-right= ##t}
> }
> 

Only now I discovered the paper "Standard Music Notation Practice"  edited by 
the Music Publisher Association  where they recommend to do it like Lilypond 
does - i.e. to align the stems of notes with opposite stems and an interval of 
a second.

However, what I am complaining about is not the appearance of the 3rd 8th of 
this measure. I just have the feeling that the readability of this measure is 
not optimal since the flat sign of the last "bes" seems to be nearer to the 
preceding 16th than to the note it belongs to.

Sorry to have bothered you!
Luc







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Re: Repeat Alternatives w/o Repeat Bar

2006-09-05 Thread Paul Scott
David A. Greene wrote:
> Paul Scott wrote:
>> David A. Greene wrote:
>>> Is it possible to typeset volta-style alternatives without generating
>>> a repeat bar?  I'm typesetting an SATB score and would like it to look
>>> something like this:
>>>   _  
>>>| To verses   || To coda|
>>>  ... notes | notes | notes  verse pickup || notes  coda pickup
>>>  D.C. D.C.
>>> || verse one || verse two || coda |.
>>>
>>> Hopefully that makes sense.  I'm looking at a choir book and this is
>>> how it's typeset there.
>>>
>>> Anyone done this before?
>> You don't say what version you are using.  For 2.9.x and 2.8.x this is
>> documented under
>>
>>
>> Manual repeat commands.
>
> Using 2.9.17.  I looked at that and I think I know how to do it but
> I was hoping there was a way to specify this but retain the nice
> useage of volta and \unrollRepeats for midi output.  I suppose I
> just have to choose one or the other since Lily doesn't seem to have
> built-in segno, coda, D.C. or D.S. commands that could be taken into
> account for midi output.  Is there any sort of plan for that in the
> future?
I can't answer that.  Hopefully someone else will.

I'll bet you could get a group to sponsor that.  I might contribute if
it got smart versions of D.C., etc.

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polyphony & placement of accidentals

2006-09-05 Thread Jean-marc LEGRAND




Hi

I've found a trick to move the bes left, and the c right.

\context Voice="oben" {
   \stemUp
   \clef "G"
   \key  f \major
   \time 3/8
g   8
c   ''  16
b   '   16
\cadenzaOn
s32  c   ''   8   % a space before the c, which moves it on the right
  }
  \\
  \context Voice="unten" {
   \stemDown
g   8
bes ' 8
\cadenzaOn
bes ' 8  s32 %a space after the c, which moves it on the left
  }


I often use the \cadenzaOn to insert spaces with s to move notes. Maybe someone 
will find something
more "élégant" !

I've run lily on this trick, and it appears that beaming has changed and is not 
perfect : I think
you'll find something to solve this pb !

Regards

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Re: Printing tempo marks on every part

2006-09-05 Thread Markus Schneider
Hi David,

you can have a look at all possible events here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/Music-classes.html#Music-classes

I myself use these:

articulation-event text-script-event % Articulation
 dynamic-event crescendo-event decrescendo-event  % Dynamics
tie-event slur-event phrasing-slur-event % ties, slurs
text-span-event
 fingering-event
breathing-event
bend-after-event

HTH
Markus

"David A. Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Markus Schneider wrote:
> > You can also use \addquote and filter only desired events using
> > Staff.quotedEventTypes.
> >
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Quoting-other-voic
> > es.html#Quoting-other-voices)
> >
> > In pseudo code this would look like this:
> >
> > somevoice = { }
> >
> > partWithAllMarksAndStuff = {}
> >
> > \addquote framework \partWithAllMarksAndStuff
> >
> > \new Staff <<
> > \set Staff.quotedEventTypes =
> >   #'(mark-event % Add more as needed
> >  )
> > \context Voice = "somevoice" \somevoice
> > \context Voice = "somevoice"
> >   \quoteDuring #"framework" { #(ly:export (skip-of-length
> > partWithAllMarksAndStuff)) }
>
> I really like this direction.  Is there a list of events somewhere
> that can be filtered?
>
> I've copied my main part and turned the notes and rests into spaces.
> I'd like to add markup and dynamics to it and then combine with the
> parts as you've done above but filter different elements for different
> parts.  For example, in an SATB score, the rehearsal letters should
> appear in all parts but I only want dynamics displayed in one part
> (say, the alto) to keep clutter down.  But I don't want to have to
> copy the skips part multiple times just to add different markup for
> different voices.
>
> Ideally, we'd like to be able to do this by putting the markup on
> the "real music" part and then filter things to turn all the notes
> and rests into skips and only display the markup that passes through
> the filter.  But I imagine something like this is a ways off.
>
>-Dave





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