File size
Hi all, In the new version (2.10.12) the file size of a 1-line song in four part harmony increases from 75KB (PS output of version 2.8.8) to 587KB. The songbook (ca. 240 songs) I made via lilypond-book and latex jumps from 33MB to 810MB. Is this behaviour intended and can I reduce the file size to something smaller and more manageable? Thanks Georg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usability Question
A visual slur tweaking tool exists (see in the archives.) Have you tried that? > I'm going to play with that a little more, to make sure I really > understand what it's doing. Incidentally, is there a way to extract the > control points of a slur automatically generated by LP? I tried > \displayMusic but it didn't tell me anything about the control points. > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usability Question
Brett Duncan wrote: I'm going to play with that a little more, to make sure I really understand what it's doing. Incidentally, is there a way to extract the control points of a slur automatically generated by LP? I tried \displayMusic but it didn't tell me anything about the control points. The short answer is yes; the long answer is that I can't remember how. If you search the bugs- and -devel mailists, you should be able to find it -- it was recommended to me while I was investigating some bug; I think this happened within the past two months. It was certainly after August 2006. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usability Question
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Brett Duncan wrote:
<<
\new Voice="3" { \voiceThree b'4}
There's no point in naming the contexts here. You could save some
typing by simply saying
\new Voice { \voiceThree b'4}
Thanks Mats - I'd followed what Rutger had posted, and assumed that the
contexts had to be named, it's useful to know that's not necessary.
For the beam slant, it's tedious but possible to manually specify the
position of the
end points of the beam, see the example called beam-control.ly in the
Tips and Tricks
document.
Actually, it's not really that tedious -the override is pretty
straightforward and easy to understand. It took me very little time to
look at the example and apply the override.
OTOH, adjusting the final slur to match what was in the JPEG *was*
tedious, and I noticed that in the example in Tips and Tricks it points
out that any change in the horizontal spacing will also require
repositioning the slur.
I'm going to play with that a little more, to make sure I really
understand what it's doing. Incidentally, is there a way to extract the
control points of a slur automatically generated by LP? I tried
\displayMusic but it didn't tell me anything about the control points.
Brett
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Re: Controlling vertical spacing exactly - mini HOWTO
On 1/18/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Trevor Bača wrote: > The following might be of interest to folks using proportional > notation. If there's any general interest (of if Graham wants it to be > so) then I'll retype the following as an addition to 11.3.4 > "Controlling spacing of individual systems". Definitely. I don't think you need to make many changes; I'd get rid of the capital-letter sections at the end, though. Or integrate that material into the rest of stuff. In the future, it's safest if you cc'd potential doc stuff to the -devel list, since I don't read -user in any great detail these days. Cool, on both counts. I'll touch up and resend to -devel and your mail. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Controlling vertical spacing exactly - mini HOWTO
Trevor Bača wrote: The following might be of interest to folks using proportional notation. If there's any general interest (of if Graham wants it to be so) then I'll retype the following as an addition to 11.3.4 "Controlling spacing of individual systems". Definitely. I don't think you need to make many changes; I'd get rid of the capital-letter sections at the end, though. Or integrate that material into the rest of stuff. In the future, it's safest if you cc'd potential doc stuff to the -devel list, since I don't read -user in any great detail these days. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Again: rest on wrong side
Roland Goretzki wrote: under http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=240 I found Your comment to the bug report with rest on wrong side. Please keep emails on the appropriate list. I process all my bug- and -devel emails before looking at -user emails, so I replied to you before noticing this email. 2. In lilypond version 2.8 and earlier it was possible to notate as I'm wanting, so the newest lilypond version is a regress compared with earlier versions, and I'm insisting, that this is a bug. I don't think that lily 2.8 was supposed to do this; it was a fortunate bug. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
Bertalan Fodor wrote: It should obviously be mentioned in 15.5; I'll fix this later today. I thought that I'd already added it, but evidently not. It is mentioned, but with not fresh information. Not in 15.5... oh, I see, it's in 13.6. If you could add some text about the features from http://lilypondtool.organum.hu it would be great. Sorry, I'm just going to point you to http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding I'm not certain if we should mention it on the install page, though -- at least, not individually. What about having a link to section 15.5 on the install page? Or conversely, linking to a webpage about editing environments in doc section 15.5? Yes, a good page about editors (screenshots, flash demos :-) etc.) would be good http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/editors - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Hiding empty staves
Dear all, I don't know whether this will be helpful at all, or whether it will just be some silly remark from an inexperienced user, but at least it may prevent future inexperienced users from making the same mistake: I have been struggling with the same problem as Bob, and at first I also didn't succeed in making it work even when reading this thread. It turned out that I had rests at the beginning of the staff I wanted to hide, instead of the \skip command. Apparently (correct me if I'm wrong), rests (as opposed to a \skip) are considered real 'content', which is why they are not hidden. Best, Rutger -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiding-empty-staves-tf2645020.html#a8441545 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to use the point-and-click feature in windows?
In another message to you I had mentioned the problem: When I choose preview output (pdf), jEdit shuts down. Ah, I see. Actually I don't remember who has what problem reported :-) So the question remains, how can I use point-and-click from Adobe Reader. I think you will find about "lilypond-invoke-editor" in the archives and/or about this question in the manual. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to use the point-and-click feature in windows?
Citando Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Note:I mentioned jEdit because the pdf viewer designed for LilypondTool > doesn`t > > work in my machine, it must be because I only have a little over 200MB of > free > > RAM usually from my 512MB Ram. > > > I don't think that is the problem. I think you have a space in your path > to the PDF file opened. > > Bert > > I don't understand what you mean. Well, the file path is: C:\carols\Songbook\ajuste1\criancasdetodas.ly In another message to you I had mentioned the problem: When I choose preview output (pdf), jEdit shuts down. So the question remains, how can I use point-and-click from Adobe Reader. Anyway, I may have to reinstall jEdit sometime and see what happens. And thanks for your helps in other occasions too. Have a good day! ___ Nas suas férias, de um telefone fixo ou do celular, faz um 21. A Embratel tem tarifas muito baratas para você ligar para quem você gosta, contar como estão as férias e economizar. Faz um 21 e aproveite. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
It should obviously be mentioned in 15.5; I'll fix this later today. I thought that I'd already added it, but evidently not. It is mentioned, but with not fresh information. If you could add some text about the features from http://lilypondtool.organum.hu it would be great. I'm not certain if we should mention it on the install page, though -- at least, not individually. What about having a link to section 15.5 on the install page? Or conversely, linking to a webpage about editing environments in doc section 15.5? Yes, a good page about editors (screenshots, flash demos :-) etc.) would be good Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macros for typesetting chords and polyphony
But, the good thing about the AutoHotkey script is that it can be used in any text editor. Yes! And the good thing about jEdit abbreviations that it doesn't need another application to be installed :-) (My most important point in noting abbreviations was that autohotkey is windows-specific, while jEdit is used in Mac and Linux as well) Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: would it be a good idea to make LilyTool an officially recommended tool, eg. by linking it from the lilypond install page, and/or mentioning it in the manual? It should obviously be mentioned in 15.5; I'll fix this later today. I thought that I'd already added it, but evidently not. I'm not certain if we should mention it on the install page, though -- at least, not individually. What about having a link to section 15.5 on the install page? Or conversely, linking to a webpage about editing environments in doc section 15.5? Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: would it be a good idea to make LilyTool an officially recommended tool, eg. by linking it from the lilypond install page, and/or mentioning it in the manual? I would highly recommend it! Stan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:32:07 +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Stephen Corey escreveu: >> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:26:30 -0600, Stan Sanderson wrote: >> >>> On Jan 18, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: >>> Thanks, Bert! This is a marvelous tool for LilyPond work on Windows. >>> Ditto on Mac OS X- >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Stan >> >> Haven't downloaded this update yet, but runs better than ever on Linux and >> the point and click and edit in place is truly an awesome timesaver. I >> just can't believe how fast Lilypond and this tool have advanced in the >> couple years I've know about them. > > would it be a good idea to make LilyTool an officially recommended tool, > eg. by linking it from the lilypond install page, and/or mentioning it in > the manual? If that is a question to all, my answer is a definite yes. Lilypond has a lot of dedicated users and I imagine many people continue to use whatever they first began with to create and edit scores. I started with this tool and would highly recommend it to new users. In terms of user assistance and feedback, I haven't seen anything that compares to it. Since new visitors are the ones likely to follow any links on the website, it makes sense to direct them to something that will be a bit familiar. For programmers learning to write music, a terminal prompt can be comfortable. For musicians with limited or moderate computer skills, ease of use and graphic feedback are important to have if you want them to stick around long enough to learn how to use Lilypond. This tool seems to be a good compromise between a text only environment and a WYSIWYG application. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macros for typesetting chords and polyphony
Citando Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> For simpler cases I'd (also) use jEdit's Abbreviation capabilities
> (instead). (Perhaps along with SuperAbbrevs plugin.)
> However, you examples with abbreviations are as the following.
> The second is trivial with jEdit's abbreviations. You just set a new
> abbreviation with these settings:
> Before caret: << {
> After caret: } \\ { } >>
>
> If you set the shortcut of Expand Abbreviation to Ctrl-Shift-Space (as I
> do), you just write
> yyCtrl-Shift-Space and there it is.
>
> The second is not so simple, and is not exactly reproducible, but there
> is an easy way to parametrize abbreviations:
> Before caret: <
> After caret: >$1
>
> Then you write:
> q#2#Ctrl-Shift-Space
> and get:
> < | >2 (| is the cursor location)
>
> Bert
>
>
Thanks Bert! I'm glad you pointed me to these capabilities of jEdit's and I will
explore them.
But, the good thing about the AutoHotkey script is that it can be used in any
text editor.
Have a good day!
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Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
Stephen Corey escreveu: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:26:30 -0600, Stan Sanderson wrote: > >> On Jan 18, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Bert! This is a marvelous tool for LilyPond work on Windows. >> Ditto on Mac OS X- >> >> Thank you! >> >> Stan > > Haven't downloaded this update yet, but runs better than ever on Linux and > the point and click and edit in place is truly an awesome timesaver. I > just can't believe how fast Lilypond and this tool have advanced in the > couple years I've know about them. would it be a good idea to make LilyTool an officially recommended tool, eg. by linking it from the lilypond install page, and/or mentioning it in the manual? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:26:30 -0600, Stan Sanderson wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > >> Thanks, Bert! This is a marvelous tool for LilyPond work on Windows. > > Ditto on Mac OS X- > > Thank you! > > Stan Haven't downloaded this update yet, but runs better than ever on Linux and the point and click and edit in place is truly an awesome timesaver. I just can't believe how fast Lilypond and this tool have advanced in the couple years I've know about them. I do have one request, which would probably help people when looking at older items in the archives Bert and that is that you include the current versions of plugins jEdit needs for any particular version of the tool to work. Sidekick in particular seems to always be incompatible with each update they make. For my little part, I'm saving different versions of the plugins as they come out. If anyone finds they need one no longer available, I may be able to provide it. Stephen Corey Richmond, Virginia USA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: bug or me?
What happens is that \hideNotes makes a number of things
transparent. Among them, the beams. Since LilyPond automatically
beams the last four 8th notes together, it means that the
beam will be transparent since it's started on the invisible note.
One solution is to explicitly specify that the invisible note
shouldn't get a beam:
\hideNotes f8\noBeam \unHideNotes d8 g f
or alternatively to explicitly specify the beam for the visible
notes:
\hideNotes f8 \unHideNotes d8[ g f]
/Mats
Stan Sanderson wrote:
Using either v2.10.12 or 2.11.12, the following code snippet is a
problem. When compiled, the last three notes are drawn as quarter
notes, not eighth notes.
I need to tie the f8 to another note in another voice; hence the hide
and unhide sequence.
Any help?
\version "2.11.11"
\header { }
\include "english.ly"
mel = \new Staff {
\time 4/4
\key f \major
\clef treble
\relative c' {
ef8 f a f8 ~ \hideNotes f8 \unHideNotes d8 g f
}
}
\score { << \mel >>
\layout {
}
}
\paper {
}
Stan
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Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
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Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
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LilyPondTool 2.10.3 released
Dear LilyPond users, LilyPondTool 2.10.3 has been released. This is a bugfix release. Changes: - files containing spaces and multiple dots handled correctly - lilypond all scores works now well - better logging with user-settable log level For instructions look at http://lilypondtool.organum.hu For instant download: http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/lily4jedit Download the lily4jedit-2.10.3.zip file and unzip it into your jEdit directory (or into your $HOME/.jedit directory) Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
bug or me?
Using either v2.10.12 or 2.11.12, the following code snippet is a
problem. When compiled, the last three notes are drawn as quarter
notes, not eighth notes.
I need to tie the f8 to another note in another voice; hence the hide
and unhide sequence.
Any help?
\version "2.11.11"
\header { }
\include "english.ly"
mel = \new Staff {
\time 4/4
\key f \major
\clef treble
\relative c' {
ef8 f a f8 ~ \hideNotes f8 \unHideNotes d8 g f
}
}
\score { << \mel >>
\layout {
}
}
\paper {
}
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Re: How to use the point-and-click feature in windows?
Note:I mentioned jEdit because the pdf viewer designed for LilypondTool doesn`t work in my machine, it must be because I only have a little over 200MB of free RAM usually from my 512MB Ram. I don't think that is the problem. I think you have a space in your path to the PDF file opened. Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macros for typesetting chords and polyphony
For simpler cases I'd (also) use jEdit's Abbreviation capabilities
(instead). (Perhaps along with SuperAbbrevs plugin.)
However, you examples with abbreviations are as the following.
The second is trivial with jEdit's abbreviations. You just set a new
abbreviation with these settings:
Before caret: << {
After caret: } \\ { } >>
If you set the shortcut of Expand Abbreviation to Ctrl-Shift-Space (as I
do), you just write
yyCtrl-Shift-Space and there it is.
The second is not so simple, and is not exactly reproducible, but there
is an easy way to parametrize abbreviations:
Before caret: <
After caret: >$1
Then you write:
q#2#Ctrl-Shift-Space
and get:
< | >2 (| is the cursor location)
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How to use the point-and-click feature in windows?
What can I do to configure lilypond or whatever so that the point-and-click can work from Adobe Reader to, say jEdit or notepad? Note:I mentioned jEdit because the pdf viewer designed for LilypondTool doesn`t work in my machine, it must be because I only have a little over 200MB of free RAM usually from my 512MB Ram. Have a good day! ___ Nas suas férias, de um telefone fixo ou do celular, faz um 21. A Embratel tem tarifas muito baratas para você ligar para quem você gosta, contar como estão as férias e economizar. Faz um 21 e aproveite. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Macros for typesetting chords and polyphony
Hello users!
Using Autohotkey (www.autohotkey.com), I created 2 macros that intend to speed
up the typing of chords. Here is what they do:
First macro:
-- Press q, then < > is written.
-- Type the duration, e.g. < >4.
As soon as you hit the "space" key, the caret moves back to one space
after the
first "<"
-- Type the notes of the chord, then press q again to start the next chord, or
the key "End", to continue on without chords.
Second macro:
-- Press yy, then << { } \\ { } >> is written, and the caret moves back to one
space after the first "{"
System requirement: Windows XP
How to use it:
If you have installed AutoHotKey, just doubleclick the script file.
Now, it will work for any text editor.
Close the program in the Windows start bar when you no longer want the program
to remap the keys of the keyboard.
Attached is the source of the script. The compiled version is a bit over 200Kb,
so I figured it wouldn't make it to the list. AutoHotkey is very good open
source software for automating tasks too, give it a try.
Enjoy!
Eduardo
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Re: "\times" vs "\tuplet" (Was: Constructive Criticism and a Question)
On Monday 15 January 2007 10:25, Valentin Villenave wrote:
> 2007/1/14, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Valentin Villenave wrote:
> > > "Tuplets are made with the minimalistic \t keyword".
> >
> > Comments:
> >
> > - If Erik's proposal to handle fractions such as 2/3 as a new
> > argument type is implemented, then it will be trivial to
> > define your own music function called \t within LilyPond.
> > I definitely do not think that it's a good idea to use such
> > heavily abbreviated command names by default in LilyPond
> > but on the other hand it's an excellent solution for you and
> > many others to add such a customized music function and
> > this specific example should be included as a standard example
> > in the documentation.
> >
> >/Mats
>
> Thank you Mats;
> it would be indeed heavily abbreviated. But what about the second part
>
> of my suggestion:
> > > "If you do not specify a tuplet argument, the argument last entered is
> > > used for the next tuplet. The argument of the first tuplet in input
> > > defaults to 2/3."
>
> When you use the \times command, most of the time it's to use 2/3, or
> to use some argument you've already been using. Is we keep "\times", I
> agree to say this command can't go without any argument. But if it
> becomes "\tuplet", why couldn't we implemement some default rule ?
>
> Where
> \times {f8 g a} >doesn't mean anything,
>
> \tuplet {f8 g a} >makes sense, doesn't it ?
it's easy to write a separate function
\triplet {f8 g a}
for this purpose.
(IMHO, this would be a useful addition to the standard lily distribution)
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Re: Beamed eighth notes and tuplets as tempo indication
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Re: Usability Question
I do see now how this notation issue could work. I am just afraid that this is far too much of an overhead work to do this for each one of the six sonatas and partitas by Bach. Well, I'm after more then two hundred pages is LilyPond score, including some 50 pages of more complicated ones, I've found that after a quite tough start, when finding the best practices for a score, the rest is easy. Now, we created \voiceFive and some others for you. I think you can easily build your score from these elements. And I'm sure you will get additional help here if you need. I don't know Sibelius, but I'm quite curious if you must manually move notes in polyphonic situations or you just say "regard as fifth/seventh" voice. Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usability Question
Brett Duncan wrote:
%---
\version "2.10.12"
#(set-global-staff-size 17)
\header {
title = \markup \center-align \italic { "Sonata 1ma a Violino Solo
senza Basso di J. S. Bach"}
}
\include "deutsch.ly"
voiceFive = { \voiceOne \shiftOnn }
melody = \new Staff {
\time 4/4
\key d \minor
\clef treble
\relative c' { \voiceOne
<<
\new Voice="3" { \voiceThree b'4}
There's no point in naming the contexts here. You could save some
typing by simply saying
\new Voice { \voiceThree b'4}
For the beam slant, it's tedious but possible to manually specify the
position of the
end points of the beam, see the example called beam-control.ly in the
Tips and Tricks
document.
/Mats
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Re: Usability Question
Dear Brett,
thanks a lot for your input which was indeed very helpful!
I do see now how this notation issue could work. I am just afraid that this
is far too much of an overhead work to do this for each one of the six
sonatas and partitas by Bach.
Thanks a lot, all the folks out there, for your help and contributions.
Please take my sincere apologies if you have felt I was impolite or too lazy
to search. This was not my intent.
All the best,
Upro
Brett Duncan-2 wrote:
>
> Hi Upro,
>
> based on what others have contributed here, especially about voiceFive,
> here's my attempt to reproduce what appeared in the JPEG. It's pretty
> close - there is the small matter of the slant on the second set of
> beamed notes, which Carl already noted. The last slur also seems to end
> in a rather high position. I'm pretty sure both of these things can be
> adjusted, but others can probably come up with the right answers for
> those faster than I can (assuming you want to change them).
>
> I for one am glad you asked your questions - I've learned some useful
> things from the ensuing discussion!
>
> Brett
>
>
> %---
>
> \version "2.10.12"
> #(set-global-staff-size 17)
>
> \header {
> title = \markup \center-align \italic { "Sonata 1ma a Violino Solo
> senza Basso di J. S. Bach"}
> }
>
> \include "deutsch.ly"
>
> voiceFive = { \voiceOne \shiftOnn }
>
> melody = \new Staff {
> \time 4/4
> \key d \minor
> \clef treble
> \relative c' {
> \voiceOne
> <<
> \new Voice="3" { \voiceThree b'4}
> \new Voice="5" { \voiceFive \stemUp d,}
> \new Voice="4" { \voiceFour g,}
> { \tieUp g''4 ~ }
> >>
> \oneVoice g32[ f( es d c b a b64 g)]
> \voiceThree
> <<
> \new Voice="1" { \voiceOne c4}
> \new Voice="2" { \voiceFour a,4}
> { g'8 \tieDown fis8 ~}
> >>
> \oneVoice fis32[ e!( d e fis g a c64 b)]
> \voiceThree
> <<
> \new Voice="1" { \voiceOne fis'4}
> \new Voice="2" { \voiceTwo d,8 s }
> { \tieDown c'8[ ~ c32( d64 c b32 c] }
> >>
> \oneVoice \once \override Script #'avoid-slur = #'inside
> c16.[\trill b64 c d16 a])
> }
> }
> \score {
> <<
> \melody
> >>
> \layout {
> }
> }
> \paper {
> #(set-paper-size "a4")
> }
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Re: Time for compiling with 2.11.12
Frédéric Chiasson escreveu: > Hi! > > I tried to compile with the new development version. It takes 44 seconds > for 4 pages of music for alto, double bass and piano. But there is two > things to notice : > 1- I am using JEdit with LilyPondTool, might add some seconds. > 2- I ask for a MIDI file, which is the longest process of the piece > compiling (about 20 seconds) > > Without the MIDI file, the compiling time goes from 20 to 48 seconds > (why such difference?) Can you send the .ly file (in private) ? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usability Question
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Re: LyricExtender again!
In your example, you had forgotten to name the Voice context. Just
replace the
first line by
Voice = \new Voice = notes { c4 d8 d e4~ e }
and it seems to work as desired.
Another approach is to use the alignAboveContext property:
\score {
<<
\new Staff = myStave \relative c'{
\Voice
}
\new Lyrics \with {alignAboveContext = myStave } { \set associatedVoice
= "notes" \Words } % above
\new Lyrics { \set associatedVoice = "notes" \Words } % below
>>
}
Finally, I noticed that you didn't use the support for hyphens in
lyrics. Try
Words = \lyricmode { This4 does8 -- n't work4 __ " "}
to get a nicer result.
/Mats
Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
I enter lyrics not using \addlyrics or \lyricsto because my music is
too rhythmically complex. I use
\set AssociatedVoice in the Lyrics context to control melismata - thus
LyricExtender and LyricHyphen objects.
Problem: If I want to print the lyrics above the notes, the extenders
don't print - presumably because the named AssociatedVoice context
doesn't exist at the time when the lyrics are printed.
I can print the Lyrics below the text and then use an #'extra-offset
but it seems clumsy.
Suggestions please?! See attached file - comment in/ out "above" and
"below".
Many thanks,
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Re: Usability Question
Hi Upro,
based on what others have contributed here, especially about voiceFive,
here's my attempt to reproduce what appeared in the JPEG. It's pretty
close - there is the small matter of the slant on the second set of
beamed notes, which Carl already noted. The last slur also seems to end
in a rather high position. I'm pretty sure both of these things can be
adjusted, but others can probably come up with the right answers for
those faster than I can (assuming you want to change them).
I for one am glad you asked your questions - I've learned some useful
things from the ensuing discussion!
Brett
%---
\version "2.10.12"
#(set-global-staff-size 17)
\header {
title = \markup \center-align \italic { "Sonata 1ma a Violino Solo
senza Basso di J. S. Bach"}
}
\include "deutsch.ly"
voiceFive = { \voiceOne \shiftOnn }
melody = \new Staff {
\time 4/4
\key d \minor
\clef treble
\relative c' {
\voiceOne
<<
\new Voice="3" { \voiceThree b'4}
\new Voice="5" { \voiceFive \stemUp d,}
\new Voice="4" { \voiceFour g,}
{ \tieUp g''4 ~ }
>>
\oneVoice g32[ f( es d c b a b64 g)]
\voiceThree
<<
\new Voice="1" { \voiceOne c4}
\new Voice="2" { \voiceFour a,4}
{ g'8 \tieDown fis8 ~}
>>
\oneVoice fis32[ e!( d e fis g a c64 b)]
\voiceThree
<<
\new Voice="1" { \voiceOne fis'4}
\new Voice="2" { \voiceTwo d,8 s }
{ \tieDown c'8[ ~ c32( d64 c b32 c] }
>>
\oneVoice \once \override Script #'avoid-slur = #'inside
c16.[\trill b64 c d16 a])
}
}
\score {
<<
\melody
>>
\layout {
}
}
\paper {
#(set-paper-size "a4")
}
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LyricExtender again!
I enter lyrics not using \addlyrics or \lyricsto because my music is too rhythmically complex. I use \set AssociatedVoice in the Lyrics context to control melismata - thus LyricExtender and LyricHyphen objects. Problem: If I want to print the lyrics above the notes, the extenders don't print - presumably because the named AssociatedVoice context doesn't exist at the time when the lyrics are printed. I can print the Lyrics below the text and then use an #'extra-offset but it seems clumsy. Suggestions please?! See attached file - comment in/ out "above" and "below". Many thanks, Vivian. ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk lyricextenderbug.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usability Question
It seems I didn't look carefully enough at the output after doing some final
modifications. However, if you replace the definition of myVoiceFive by
myVoiceFive = { \myVoiceOne \shiftOnn }
then everything seems to work as it should. It's weird, since these two
definitions should be completely equivalent.
/Mats
Bertalan Fodor wrote:
First of all, here's an alternative version of
your code that hopefully is somewhat closer to what you want.
Mats, this also says clashing notecolumns in the first note (and
merges them to one position) (with 2.10.11)
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