distances between staff lines
Is it possible to change the distances between the lines of a single staff? I am thinking of a special percussion staff. I'm using version 2.11.34 Thanks! Stefan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
invisible barlines
Dear Lilypond-users,
I have a problem with the barlines with the below quoted music.
Why are the so short?
What can I do to have it longer?
Thanks for Your support,
Stefan
schlagzwo =
\relative c' { \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = 1
\clef percussion
r16
c\mf c16- [ c c32 c] r16
R1
r4 r8 c8~\ppp \startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 3
c2.~ c16~ c8~\ c16\mp \stopTrillSpan %schlagzwo 4
r4 r8 c~\ppp\startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 5
c8~\ %schlagzwo 6
c16\f \stopTrillSpan r16 r8 r4 r2%schlagzwo 7
R1*12
}
\new Staff = Schlagzeug 2
\set Staff.instrumentName = Perc. 2
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = Perc. 2
\schlagzwo
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Re: invisible barlines
Dear Luc,
thanks, it worked. But I did'nt choose this option, because the
percussion-player has to change the instrument, sometimes. For
example he shall also play 4 Toms, an for this reason I would like to
change the staff type. I think it should be possible. But I don't kno
how.
Luc Saffre schrieb am 27.12.2007:
Stefan,
why don't you use a \new RhythmicStaff instead of \override
Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = 1 and a default Staff?
I read this on
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Showing-mel
ody-rhythms#Showing-melody-rhythms
Luc
schlagzwo =
\relative c' {
\clef percussion
r16
c\mf c16- [ c c32 c] r16
R1
r4 r8 c8~\ppp \startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 3
c2.~ c16~ c8~\ c16\mp \stopTrillSpan %schlagzwo 4
r4 r8 c~\ppp\startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 5
c8~\ %schlagzwo 6
c16\f \stopTrillSpan r16 r8 r4 r2 %schlagzwo 7
R1*12
}
\new RhythmicStaff = Schlagzeug 2
\set Staff.instrumentName = Perc. 2
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = Perc. 2
\schlagzwo
On 27.12.2007 11:09, Stefan Thomas wrote:
Dear Lilypond-users,
I have a problem with the barlines with the below quoted music.
Why are the so short?
What can I do to have it longer?
Thanks for Your support,
Stefan
schlagzwo =
\relative c' { \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = 1
\clef percussion
r16
c\mf c16- [ c c32 c] r16
R1
r4 r8 c8~\ppp \startTrillSpan%schlagzwo 3
c2.~ c16~ c8~\ c16\mp \stopTrillSpan%schlagzwo 4
r4 r8 c~\ppp\startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 5
c8~\%schlagzwo 6
c16\f \stopTrillSpan r16 r8 r4 r2 %schlagzwo 7
R1*12
}
\new Staff = Schlagzeug 2
\set Staff.instrumentName = Perc. 2
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = Perc. 2
\schlagzwo
Stefan Thomas
Siebengebirgsallee 9
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Re: invisible barlines
For all, who are interested in, I found a solution to solve the
Problem:
\relative c'
{ \override Staff.BarLine #'bar-size = #3
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = 1
c d e f g f e d c1 }
{ e f g a b a g f e1 }
This works!
Luc Saffre schrieb am 27.12.2007:
Stefan,
why don't you use a \new RhythmicStaff instead of \override
Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = 1 and a default Staff?
I read this on
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Showing-mel
ody-rhythms#Showing-melody-rhythms
Luc
schlagzwo =
\relative c' {
\clef percussion
r16
c\mf c16- [ c c32 c] r16
R1
r4 r8 c8~\ppp \startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 3
c2.~ c16~ c8~\ c16\mp \stopTrillSpan %schlagzwo 4
r4 r8 c~\ppp\startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 5
c8~\ %schlagzwo 6
c16\f \stopTrillSpan r16 r8 r4 r2 %schlagzwo 7
R1*12
}
\new RhythmicStaff = Schlagzeug 2
\set Staff.instrumentName = Perc. 2
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = Perc. 2
\schlagzwo
On 27.12.2007 11:09, Stefan Thomas wrote:
Dear Lilypond-users,
I have a problem with the barlines with the below quoted music.
Why are the so short?
What can I do to have it longer?
Thanks for Your support,
Stefan
schlagzwo =
\relative c' { \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = 1
\clef percussion
r16
c\mf c16- [ c c32 c] r16
R1
r4 r8 c8~\ppp \startTrillSpan%schlagzwo 3
c2.~ c16~ c8~\ c16\mp \stopTrillSpan%schlagzwo 4
r4 r8 c~\ppp\startTrillSpan %schlagzwo 5
c8~\%schlagzwo 6
c16\f \stopTrillSpan r16 r8 r4 r2 %schlagzwo 7
R1*12
}
\new Staff = Schlagzeug 2
\set Staff.instrumentName = Perc. 2
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = Perc. 2
\schlagzwo
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Change vertical Lyric spacing for some words
Hi all,
is it possible to change the minimum-Y-extent on-the-fly only for some
lines or even words?
Example, which doesn't work:
test = \lyricmode {
blabla
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-3.75 . 2.0)
blabla
blabla
}
Regards,
Michael
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Re: jEdit and Lilypond installation
2007/12/26, Bertalan Fodor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To use LilyPondTool you must set paths and so in the Plugin options. ...Or (if you're running Windows) you can use the bundled and pre-configured Easy LilyPond :) The last version is almost ready for standard usage. http://valentin.villenave.info/spip.php?article44 Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Staff and voice definitions
David
I take your points about the maths analogies. They
clearly only serve to confuse anyone not familiar
with maths. Thanks for this, and your other comments
on the Learning Manual. I'll certainly bear them in
mind when I next edit that section and try to clarify
the words there.
Perhaps the hardest LilyPond concept to understand
is the use of double angle brackets - ...
Things contained within a brace {..} are sequential;
things contained within double angle brackets
.. are concurrent (for historical reasons
LilyPond uses the term 'simultaneous' to mean
'concurrent'.) So to stack Staves into a system they
must be placed within .. as they music they contain
must be played concurrently; to stack Voices within
a Staff they must be within .. for the same reason.
Multiple voices are only needed if there are notes
within the same staff which need to sound concurrently
but which start and/or end at different times; otherwise
using single angle brackets .. to indicate chords is
adequate.
I'm not familiar with your specific example, but I
understand your difficulty. A similar situation
arises in CPE Bach's Solfeggettio with a single
melody running through both hands and staves. Below
I show how to write the first two bars of this piece in
two different ways. Try compiling both of them to see
what they look like.
1) Splitting the melody into the two staves and
using skips to step over the periods when the
melody is in the opposite hand:
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff = RH
\key c \minor
\relative c' {
s4 c16 ees d c s4 g'16 f ees d |
\stemDown ees16 c ees g
\stemUp c16 ees d c d c b a g f ees d |
}
\new Staff = LH
\clef bass
\key c \minor
\relative c {
ees16 c ees g s4 b16 g b d s4 |
s4*4
}
}
2) Coding a single melody line and using \change
to switch this between staves. I've never used
this before and I found this quite tricky to do,
for the reasons I've placed below the example. If
Mats or anyone else can improve on how to use
\change for this example or correct any misconceptions
in the comments below I'm sure we'd both be grateful.
First the same example coded this way:
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff = RH
\key c \minor
\skip 1*2
\new Staff = LH
\clef bass
\key c \minor
\relative c {
ees16 c ees g
\change Staff = RH c ees d c
\change Staff = LH b g b d
\change Staff = RH g f ees d |
\stemDown ees c ees g
\stemUp c ees d c d c b a g f ees d |
}
}
and now some comments. The melody -must- be placed
in the lowest staff, because the references in the
\change statement can refer only to staves which
have already been defined earlier. This also means
the music cannot be placed in a variable, as that
has be be defined before it is used, and both
cannot be satified simultaneously. Also the
\skip in the first staff is -required- if there is
no other music on that staff, otherwise
the staff no longer exists when it is needed as the
melody switches to it. The skip has to be as long
as the music, here just 2 bars.
HTH a bit
Trevor D
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From: David Fedoruk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 December 2007 07:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Staff and voice definitions
Hello
You don't say which version of LilyPond you are
using, but I'm sure the answers to your questions
are contained in the documentation which came with it.
I am using 2.11.35
Alternatively, you may find the answers in the
documentation being
prepared for release 2.12, which can currently be
found under the 2.11
development pages. To be more specific, look at
chapters 2 and 3 in
the Learning Manual at
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/
lilypond-learning/index.html.
These explain the concepts of Staff and Voice.
I'd be interested to
hear if they help.
Yes, I had read that documentation and that was
what prompted my
questions as well as the project I am currently
working on.
2.3.1 Musical Expressions Explained.
The illustration of { { a4 g } fg} as rendered
in sequence is
understandable, but the minute you used a
mathematical analogy, you
lost me completely. It only complicated things for me.
polyphony:
Am I correct in assuming that it is that
tells lilypond that it
is polyphonic? Although I know how they are used,
I have never known
exactly what they mean.
In my mind, polyphony and the number of staves
are not linked
concepts. One does not depend or imply the other.
The number of staves
(to me) is merely for the convenience of the
performers. So before
using lilypond, I didn't consider that piano
music was mostly 4 part
polyphonic writing. I saw it as two handed -- two
part. I then
considered the possibility of single voiced
Re: EasyLilyPond: A Tribute To LilyPond And LilyPondTool
2007/12/23, Bertalan Fodor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wow! Now that should definitely go to the main page, shouldn't it? Your server is a bit slow at least for such demand you surely get with this :-) You may want to create a sourceforge project for it, or join the lily4jedit project. There you can commit your icon as well, if you send me your sourceforge user name - privately - I can grant you write access to the repository, and will also help finding the right place in the project structure, or at least - if you don't want to play with SVN - just let you release the binary and the .gz sources. Hi Bert, I've just opened a SourceForge account: https://sourceforge.net/users/v_villenave/ I'd be happy to join the lily4jedit devel team. I've just released a third pre-alpha version of EasyLilyPond, with a lot of bugs corrected. I'm a bit sad that it's only Windows-oriented, but I'd be happy to learn another language and write a portable version of the EasyLauncher (I think wxwidget, for instance, could be an interesting framework to try). How do you see my EasyLilypond project's future? Could it be integrated to yours, as a standalone version? Should I open a new sf project? As for lilyPondTool itself, I'd be happy to make a few suggestions, mainly about the interface (icons, localization etc), but also about some components (for example, we've already talked about forking JPedal for good and get rid of some of its limitations). A few months ago, I talked about making the JPedal preview dockable, this would make a nice Perspective possible for lilyponders. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=lily4jedit-develviewmonth=200709 I have a few more ideas. It would be just great if we can help each other :) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: jEdit and Lilypond installation
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Re: macro for instrument changes
Le 27 déc. 07 à 17:13, Nicolas Sceaux a écrit :
Le 27 déc. 07 à 16:40, Stefan Thomas a écrit :
Dear Lilypond-users,
I am sure there is an easy way to create a macro for the layout of
the two markup-commands in the below quoted example:
\relative c' {
c1^\markup {\bold \box Englischhorn }
c1^\markup {\bold \box Heckelphon } }
I would like to write something like
{ c1\change Englischhorn c1 \change Heckelphon }
How can I do it?
You want to define a new markup command, see:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/New-markup-command-definition
oops, this answer is not complete.
Defining a markup command will make it possible to write eg:
c1^\markup \change Englischhorn
which may be still too verbose.
Less verbose would be a music command expanding from:
\changeInstrument Englischhorn c1
to:
c1 s4*0^\markup \bold \box Englischhorn
See:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Music-functions
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macro for instrument changes
Dear Lilypond-users,
I am sure there is an easy way to create a macro for the layout of
the two markup-commands in the below quoted example:
\relative c' {
c1^\markup {\bold \box Englischhorn }
c1^\markup {\bold \box Heckelphon } }
I would like to write something like
{ c1\change Englischhorn c1 \change Heckelphon }
How can I do it?
Thanks for Your support.
Stefan
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Re: macro for instrument changes
On 27.12.2007 (16:40), Stefan Thomas wrote:
Dear Lilypond-users,
I am sure there is an easy way to create a macro for the layout of
the two markup-commands in the below quoted example:
\relative c' {
c1^\markup {\bold \box Englischhorn }
c1^\markup {\bold \box Heckelphon } }
I would like to write something like
{ c1\change Englischhorn c1 \change Heckelphon }
How can I do it?
Thanks for Your support.
Stefan
Something like this?
EH = \markup {\bold \box Englischhorn }
HP = \markup {\bold \box Heckelphon }
\relative c' {
c1^\EH c1^\HP
}
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Re: macro for instrument changes
Le 27 déc. 07 à 16:40, Stefan Thomas a écrit :
Dear Lilypond-users,
I am sure there is an easy way to create a macro for the layout of
the two markup-commands in the below quoted example:
\relative c' {
c1^\markup {\bold \box Englischhorn }
c1^\markup {\bold \box Heckelphon } }
I would like to write something like
{ c1\change Englischhorn c1 \change Heckelphon }
How can I do it?
You want to define a new markup command, see:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/New-markup-command-definition
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Re: EasyLilyPond: A Tribute To LilyPond And LilyPondTool
2007/12/27, Simon Dahlbacka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nice work! - recommanded should be spelled recommended Ooops! corrected, thanks :) - the progress text area/scroll bar ( in the installer flickers (probably due to scrolling?) Yes, I can't really help it, this is due to the skinning system I use (which basically redraws the standard Windows elements every now and then). there's also a bug with the next button on the license page. - EasyLauncher seem to be in french!?! (I do speak a little bit of french so I can just about use it, but I would have liked to have the english version, my normal locale is sv-FI if that matters) this is weird. I'll look into it. Could you please tell me if the file that opens when you click on écrivez votre première partition (the second button in the launcher) is in French or in English? but overall, I'm impressed with the good work! Thanks. However, please do me a favor: just keep in mind that it a very dirty, non-professional work :) I hope the next version will address those bugs (and that the uninstaller will perform better; feel free to ask for help if have a hard time when you uninstall it). Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: EasyLilyPond: A Tribute To LilyPond And LilyPondTool
Nice work! I have a few bug reports though - recommanded should be spelled recommended - the progress text area/scroll bar ( in the installer flickers (probably due to scrolling?) - EasyLauncher seem to be in french!?! (I do speak a little bit of french so I can just about use it, but I would have liked to have the english version, my normal locale is sv-FI if that matters) but overall, I'm impressed with the good work! regards, Simon 2007/12/23, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everybody, Hi Bertalan, I just wanted to let you know about a recent project of mine: I called it EasyLilyPond, as it is meant for people who are not familiar with using computers and installing programs. A few weeks ago, Bertalan made the suggestion to regroup in a single bundle all that's needed to work with LilyPond and LilypondTool. He suggested using NSIS to put it all together; I noticed it and then stopped thinking about it. About a month ago, since my laptop went down again and I found myself forced to use an old 600 MHz Windows box, I started using msysGit and, just out of curiosity, downloaded the whole GUB sources. I discovered that the current LilyPond MinGW installer itself was written using NSIS; this made me realize that it would be great to take it as a base for an extended new LilyPond installation, that would not only install LilyPond but jEdit and LilyPondTool as well. After having spent a few weeks working on it, I feel like I have a made a first step. It is still very buggy, but here are a few ideas I had: - Installs LilyPond using the authentic GUB procedure (slightly updated); everything is preserved, the PATH integration, the use bundled python option etc. - Installs jEdit editor, absolutely unmodified, just like in a standard installation. LilyPondTool can also be installed, with a few additional configuration files and examples. The user can choose to use the bundled (1.6) Java Environment; if he chooses not to, the setup checks for a decent JRE available, and if there isn't, another choice is proposed: use the bundled JRE anyway, or download and install Java for real. - Installs Sumatra PDF reader, that is both lightweight and free as in freedom. LilyPondTool is preconfigured to use it. - Installs the EasyLauncher: a small application that is meant to give newbies an initial familiar feeling: a smooth transparent splash screen, a nice startup sound of piano music (the Free Software Song as recorded by Markus Haist, used with his permission). The Launcher provides an easy and quick way to launch LilyPondTool, open an examples folder, open the online Learning Manual, LSR, etc. - Installs (optionally) some skins: I have completely reskinned the jEdit interface, with transparent/blur effects, new splash screen and icons, customized colors and backgrounds to make it look a bit like the EasyLauncher. Those who do not like the green color, or my happy little note drawing, probably do not want to select this option :) - the whole thing (setup+Launcher) is fully localized (English/French only for now, but it's easy to add more languages). Besides, if a French user launches the application for the first time, he will see a translated version of the Congratulations etc. ly file (with French explanations, \include italiano.ly and so on). - there are currently three predefined installation types: Full, Standard, and LilyPond Only. - Finally, there's an option called Offshore installation that allows users to install EasyLilyPond on a USB drive, a bit like the PortableApps you may know. Unfortunately I'm having a pretty hard time trying to implement it, so hopefully this will be ready for a future version... That's about all. It is still a pre-pre-pre-alpha-beta-whatever version, plus it's the first time I code anything (besides LilyPond scores, of course). It was more about demonstrating some concepts than anything else. If you're interested in having a look at it, please visit the page on http://valentin.villenave.info/spip.php?article44 All suggestions are welcome -- and that includes the design ;-) Thank you very much, and a merry Christmas to all LilyPonders! Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Re-printing instrument names
Hi Johnathan
Resetting shortInstrumentName at the appropriate points
in the music should do what you want. The trick is that
the \set shortInstrumentName command has to be placed in
the music for each staff at least one note, skip or rest
-before- the end of the previous system. Then reset them
all back to .
Here's an example:
\paper {
raggedright = ##f
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName =
\relative c'' {
\override Score.VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first =
##t
c c c c c c c c c c c
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName =
c \break
c c c c c c c c c c c
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = A
c \break
c c c c c c c c c c c c
}
}
\new Staff {
\relative c'' {
R1*3
R1 R1
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = B
R1 \break
c4 c c c c c c c c c c c
}
}
\layout {
\context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
}
}
Trevor D
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Johnathan
Sent: 27 December 2007 03:07
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re-printing instrument names
I am writing a vocal score that starts with 4
parts (staves), then adds a 5th
part later. I believe I've gotten Lilypond to do
what I want in terms of hiding
staves, but I can't figure out how to do what I
want with instrument names.
I would like the 4 names to be printed before the
first measure, which is not a
problem. Then, after several systems of 4 staves
(the other one is hidden
because it contains only rests), with no
instrument names printed before them
(shortInstrumentName is ), the 5th staff is
introduced. On the system where
that new staff first becomes visible, I would
like to reprint all 5 instrument
names in front of the staves. The rest of the
systems until the end of the piece
should show 5 staves with no instrument names in
front of them.
Is there any way to accomplish this? Thanks in advance.
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Unicode characters
Hi, I'm new in lilypond and testing it. Seems to be very nice SW. But... I'm from Czech (sorry for my English) and I've problem with non-english characters in texts. I'm Using MS WinXP, for editting .ly files I'm using Notepad (or LilyPad). When I write some czech-specific character, eg. ěščřžýáíé, I got no character in output .pdf file. Only in .log file are error messages: programming error: FT_Get_Glyph_Name returns error continuing, cross fingers programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming. Skipping glyph U+, file C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf/CenturySchL-Roma.otf continuing, cross fingers ...LilyPond 2.10.33 - blank instalation via lilypond-2.10.33-1.mingw.exe downloaded from www.lilypond.org Thanks for any help with this problem Zbynek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: alto stems up, tenor stems down
On 27.12.2007 20:26, Trevor Daniels wrote:
There is no 'proper' way of doing this, unfortunately.
The recent discussion on \partcombine which you can
see in the archives points out the problems with this.
Of course, you can always simply insert \stemUp and
\stemDown commands in the alto line. These will give
the appearance you want, but will generate lots of
'clashing note column' error messages.
Thanks for your answer, Trevor. I just tried with \stemUp and
\stemDown commands, and this indeed works for the example I gave.
But the trick fails if there are 1/8 notes. I join a slightly modified
example which shows the problem (the first line is using \stemUp in the
alto voice and doesn't look well, the second line looks well but uses my
cheating trick).
I'll now try to understand the partcombine discussion (I am a beginner,
you know)
Luc
\version 2.10.25
\score{
\context StaffGroup
\context Staff = upper
\clef treble
\context Voice = soprano \relative g' {
\key c \major
\voiceOne g8( f) e4 e2 | f4 d d2 | }
\context Voice = alto \relative c' {
\voiceTwo \stemUp e8( c) c4 c2 | \stemDown b8( c) d( c) b2 | }
\lyricsto soprano \new Lyrics {
\lyricmode { Häns- chen klein ging al- lein } }
\context Staff = lower
\clef bass
\context Voice = tenor \relative c' {
\key c \major
\voiceThree \stemDown c4 c c2 | g4 g g2 | }
\context Voice = bass \relative c {
\voiceFour c4 c c2 | g4 g g2 | }
}
\score{
\context StaffGroup
\context Staff = upper
\clef treble
\context Voice = soprano \relative g' {
\key c \major
\voiceOne g e8( f c) e c4 e c2 | f4 d d b2 | }
\context Voice = alto \relative c' {
\voiceTwo s4 s s2 | b8( c) d( c) s2 | }
\lyricsto soprano \new Lyrics {
\lyricmode { Häns- chen klein ging al- lein } }
\context Staff = lower
\clef bass
\context Voice = tenor \relative c' {
\key c \major
\voiceThree s4 s s2 | s4 s s2 | }
\context Voice = bass \relative c {
\voiceFour c c'4 c c' c c'2 | g g'4 g g' g g'2 | }
}
satb2.pdf
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RE: alto stems up, tenor stems down
Luc
You can get round this particular problem by making the
alto beam transparent by inserting the following override
immediately before the note that starts the beam:
\once \override Beam #'transparent = ##t
However, all this is really cludgy, needing manual tweaking
for every occurrence, and there are likely to be other
problems later. It might be easier to write the two parts
together, using chords where only one voice is needed and
introducing the second voice only when it is needed, like
this:
\context Staff = upper
\clef treble
\context Voice = upper \relative g' {
\key c \major
g e8 f c e c4 e c2 |
{ f4 d d2 } \\ { b8( c) d( c) b2 } |
}
although this doesn't meet your objective of keeping the
parts distinct.
Trevor
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Luc Saffre
Sent: 27 December 2007 18:59
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: alto stems up, tenor stems down
On 27.12.2007 20:26, Trevor Daniels wrote:
There is no 'proper' way of doing this, unfortunately.
The recent discussion on \partcombine which you can
see in the archives points out the problems with this.
Of course, you can always simply insert \stemUp and
\stemDown commands in the alto line. These will give
the appearance you want, but will generate lots of
'clashing note column' error messages.
Thanks for your answer, Trevor. I just tried with
\stemUp and
\stemDown commands, and this indeed works for the
example I gave.
But the trick fails if there are 1/8 notes. I
join a slightly modified
example which shows the problem (the first line
is using \stemUp in the
alto voice and doesn't look well, the second line
looks well but uses my
cheating trick).
I'll now try to understand the partcombine
discussion (I am a beginner,
you know)
Luc
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Problems with automatic beaming when autoBeamOff in 3/8 time
Hi,
I have a score in 3/8 time with \autoBeamOff. Now, some measures have one
eight and then four 16th (all connected by one beam), while others have a
dotted eight and then three 16th (again, all connected by one beam).
However, while in the first case all the 16th are connected by a second beam,
in the other measure (with the dotted eight) the first 16th uses a second
flag to the left, while the last two 16th are connected by a beam. What I
want is that the three 16th are also connected by a second beam.
Attached is an example of this behaviour. The second measure shows the
problem, where the first 16th should be connected with the other two.
I tried playing around with beatLength and subdivideBeams, but no setting
seems to produce what I need... (Unfortunately, such measures appear so often
that manually changing settings for each staff separatly is not an option).
Basically, I want lilypond not to make any subdivisions on the beams and
connect as many notes as possible.
So, how can I force the sub-beaming when I set \autoBeamOff?
Thanks,
Reinhold
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\version 2.11.36
\relative c'' { \autoBeamOff
\time 3/8 \key g \major
d8[ c16( b a g)] | g8.[ fis16( e d)] |
% Two measures later:
b'16.([ c32) d16] g[( d b])
}
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RE: Problems with automatic beaming when autoBeamOff in 3/8 time
Hi Reinhold
As the two types of bar have different sub-beats there is
no way to do this automatically with just a single setting,
AFAIK - every time the sub-beating changes the new
beatLength will have to be indicated - just as if you were
changing the time signature. You already know the
overrides to do this:
\set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 2 16)
\set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 16)
The commands can be set as short-name variables, and they
apply score-wide, so only need to be placed in one staff,
like this:
Two = \set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 2 16)
Three = \set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 16)
\relative c'' {
\autoBeamOff
\time 3/8
\key g \major
d8[ c16( b a g)] |
\Three g8.[ fis16( e d)] |
\Two d8[ c16( b a g)] |
% Two measures later:
b'16.([ c32) d16] g[( d b])
}
although personally I would have a separate timing variable
in parallel with the music to hold these changes and
anything
else to do with timing.
Trevor D
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Subject: Problems with automatic beaming when
autoBeamOff in 3/8 time
Hi,
I have a score in 3/8 time with \autoBeamOff.
Now, some measures have one
eight and then four 16th (all connected by one
beam), while others have a
dotted eight and then three 16th (again, all
connected by one beam).
However, while in the first case all the 16th are
connected by a second beam,
in the other measure (with the dotted eight) the
first 16th uses a second
flag to the left, while the last two 16th are
connected by a beam. What I
want is that the three 16th are also connected by
a second beam.
Attached is an example of this behaviour. The
second measure shows the
problem, where the first 16th should be connected
with the other two.
I tried playing around with beatLength and
subdivideBeams, but no setting
seems to produce what I need... (Unfortunately,
such measures appear so often
that manually changing settings for each staff
separatly is not an option).
Basically, I want lilypond not to make any
subdivisions on the beams and
connect as many notes as possible.
So, how can I force the sub-beaming when I set
\autoBeamOff?
Thanks,
Reinhold
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Technology, Austria
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
* Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien,
http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/
* K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer
maintainer
* Chorvereinigung Jung-Wien, http://www.jung-wien.at/
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Re: lp with korean/utf8 lambda dvipdfmx
Closing this thread:
Already several weeks ago, I corrected the lyrics' syntax like this:
\addlyrics {
\override Lyrics . LyricText #'font-name = HYPillGi-Light
아 -- 리 -- 랑, _ 아 -- 리 -- 랑, _ 아 -- 라 -- _ 리 -- _ 요 __
아 -- 리 -- 랑 _ 고 -- _ 개 -- _ 로 _ 넘 -- 어 -- 간 -- 다.
나 -- 를 버 -- 리 -- 고 가 -- 시 -- 는 님 -- _ 은 __
십 -- 리 -- 도 _ 못 _ 가 -- _ 서 _ 발 -- 병 -- 난 -- 다.
}
Then because lilypond handles these fonts I chose an appropriate ttf and
compiled it. Though lilypond doesn't cooperate with lambda, the generated
snippet could then be embeddeded as an eps into the main document.
I intend to do the following things now:
* sending a bug report concerning lambda to lilypond.org
* getting to know more about that xelatex-stuff; this and other font-related
things won't be discussed here then.
Thanks to all so far
Minsu
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Positions of notes in chords
I'm typesetting some music, and in order to stay as close as possible to the
original 17th century manuscript, I'm typesetting my chords as voices: top
note stem up, other notes stem down as a separate voice. However, I have a
chord {d4}\\ {g, c4} in which the top d ends up to the left of the
lower chord. But I want it typeset to the *right*. How can I achieve this?
Thanks,
Alasdair
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Re: macro for instrument changes
Hi all, Less verbose would be a music command expanding from: \changeInstrument Englischhorn c1 to: c1 s4*0^\markup \bold \box Englischhorn See: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Music- functions Some time ago, I sponsored an improvement to InstrumentName (etc.); Han-Wen was going to have just such a macro pre-defined; I never confirmed what the outcome was -- HW? Cheers, HKieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Two midi questions
1. I have used \set Staff.midiInstrument = viola but the midi output still seems to contain a piano sound in it. It's as though I can add an instrument sound to the midi file, but not turn off the default piano sound. What's going on, and how can I fix it? 2. To change the midi tempo, I used \tempo 4=80 \once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'transparent = ##t which seems unnecessarily clumsy. Wouldn't it be easier to have a midiTempo command, so that \midiTempo 4=80 would have the same effect as the line above? Thanks, Alasdair ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Positions of notes in chords
You can move the note column to the right with the command
\once \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #1.5 placed
before the d. Change the 1.5 to control the position
precisely.
Trevor D
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Subject: Positions of notes in chords
I'm typesetting some music, and in order to stay as close as
possible to the original 17th century manuscript, I'm
typesetting my chords as voices: top note stem up, other
notes stem down as a separate voice. However, I have a
chord {d4}\\ {g, c4} in which the top d ends up to the
left of the lower chord. But I want it typeset to the
right. How can I achieve this?
Thanks,
Alasdair
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Problem starting multiple voices
I'm new to lilypond. I'm trying to engrave a simple song with four voices on two staffs (saprano and alto on the treble staff and tenor and bass on the bass staff). The problem is the the two voices on a staff do not come in on the same note, but lilypond will not seem to work right unless they do. I have worked around the problem by putting in a leading rest, but this seems like a crufty hack, and to screws up the lyrics. What is the correct way to do this? Thank you very much, -EdK ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lp with korean/utf8 lambda dvipdfmx
Edit1:
Then because lilypond handles these fonts I chose an appropriate ttf and
compiled it.
== while it means a seperate .tex-document including \usepackage{cjk} which
could be compiled with latex as usual; lilypond was then easily capable to
work out the correct snippet.
Edit2:
Though lilypond doesn't cooperate with lambda, the generated
snippet could then be embeddeded as an eps into the main document.
== while this main .tex-document still uses hlatex (or say
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Re: Organ pedal marks and substitution
Hello,
Does anyone have a suggestion as how to show substitution of feet
in an
organ pedal voice? It could be when shifting from right toe to
right heel on
the same note, or it could be substituting the left toe with the
right toe,
still on the same note.
How about something like
_
\version 2.11.33
\layout { ragged-right = ##t }
\score
{
{ a^\markup { \concat { \musicglyph #scripts.upedaltoe –
\translate #'(0.4 . 0.5) \musicglyph #scripts.upedalheel } } }
}
_
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score
Hi Jeremiah,
Thank you for your advice (and ALL your many helpful comments in
the Lilypond archive).
My pleasure!
I have been able to Start my systems exactly the way I want to
Excellent.
How do I name InnerStaffGroup s?
Hopefully the example code (below) will help.
Best wishes,
Kieren.
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\version 2.11.33
\layout { ragged-right = ##t }
notes = \new Voice \relative c'' { c1 }
\score
{
\new StaffGroup
\new InnerStaffGroup
\set InnerStaffGroup.systemStartDelimiterHierarchy =
#'( SystemStartSquare )
\set InnerStaffGroup.instrumentName = \markup { Violin
\hspace #1 }
\new Staff \set Staff.instrumentName = I
\notes
\new Staff \set Staff.instrumentName = II
\notes
\new Staff \set Staff.instrumentName = Viola \clef alto
\transpose c c, \notes
\new Staff \set Staff.instrumentName = Cello \clef bass
\transpose c c, \notes
\new Staff \set Staff.instrumentName = Bass \clef bass
\transpose c c,, \notes
\layout
{
\context
{
\InnerStaffGroup
\consists Instrument_name_engraver
}
}
}
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building, where to get libfontconfig-dev and libfreetype6-dev
Howdy, Am trying to build lilypond 2.11.36 on mac osx 10.4.11 (on an intel mac). I only want to use midi2ly (and intended to feed that output into an pre-built lilypond binary) but it appears I have to build the whole kit and caboodle to use midi2ly. I have managed to get to the point where running ./configure only complains that it needs libfontconfig-dev or fontconfig-devel = 2.2.0 and libfreetype6-dev or freetype?-devel = 2.1.10 I am unable to find these. Using darwinports mostly, I loaded everything else that ./config earlier said it needed, and as part of doing that I have fontconfig and freetype already. The above packages seem to be variants of these, but darwinports doesn't seem to know about them, and ./configure thinks they are lacking (I guess). Where can I find them? Thanks, Bob H P.S. I also tried using finkcommander to install lilypond source on different mac (same OS, but a powerpc mac). It failed after a couple minutes so I gave up on that avenue. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: building, where to get libfontconfig-dev and libfreetype6-dev
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:46:49 + (UTC) Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am trying to build lilypond 2.11.36 on mac osx 10.4.11 (on an intel mac). I only want to use midi2ly (and intended to feed that output into an pre-built lilypond binary) but it appears I have to build the whole kit and caboodle to use midi2ly. False. Read the documentation, particularly macosx command-line setup. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: building, where to get libfontconfig-dev and libfreetype6-dev
Graham Percival gpermus at gmail.com writes: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:46:49 + (UTC) Bob me13013 at gmail.com wrote: Am trying to build lilypond 2.11.36 on mac osx 10.4.11 (on an intel mac). I only want to use midi2ly (and intended to feed that output into an pre-built lilypond binary) but it appears I have to build the whole kit and caboodle to use midi2ly. False. Read the documentation, particularly macosx command-line setup. - Graham If you are right, that would save me a lot of time. However, I am unable to locate macosx command-line setup in the documentation. I have looked in lilypond.pdf (for version 2.8.8; this doc just now downloaded), and in the README.txt and in the INSTALL.txt. Where is it? Thanks, Bob H ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: building, where to get libfontconfig-dev and libfreetype6-dev
Graham Percival gpermus at gmail.com writes: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:46:49 + (UTC) Bob me13013 at gmail.com wrote: Am trying to build lilypond 2.11.36 on mac osx 10.4.11 (on an intel mac). I only want to use midi2ly (and intended to feed that output into an pre-built lilypond binary) but it appears I have to build the whole kit and caboodle to use midi2ly. False. Read the documentation, particularly macosx command-line setup. - Graham If you are right, that would save me a lot of time. However, I am unable to locate macosx command-line setup in the documentation. I have looked in lilypond.pdf (for version 2.8.8; this doc just now downloaded), and in the README.txt and in the INSTALL.txt. Where is it? Thanks, Bob H ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: building, where to get libfontconfig-dev and libfreetype6-dev
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:12:56 + (UTC) Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Percival gpermus at gmail.com writes: Am trying to build lilypond 2.11.36 on mac osx 10.4.11 (on an intel mac). I only want to use midi2ly (and intended to feed that output into an pre-built lilypond binary) but it appears I have to build the whole kit and caboodle to use midi2ly. False. Read the documentation, particularly macosx command-line setup. - Graham If you are right, that would save me a lot of time. I'm right. However, I am unable to locate macosx command-line setup in the documentation. I have looked in lilypond.pdf (for version 2.8.8; this doc just now downloaded), and in the README.txt and in the INSTALL.txt. Where is it? Look at the docs for 2.11.36 if that's what you're using. Application Usage, 2.1.1 I believe. In the docs for 2.10, I think it's something like section 15.3. Just look for OS X in the table of contents. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
