Re: Why Is This Merge Behavior Different?

2008-02-08 Thread Gilles THIBAULT

Can someone explain to me why the eighth note and half
note have their heads merged in the first measure while the quarter
note and the half note in the second measure do not?
\relative c''
{
\new Voice  {
 c8 c4.
 \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##t
 c8 c4.
 \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##f
 c4 c4
 \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##t
 \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-dotted = ##t
 c4 c4 } \\
 { c2 c2 c2 c2 } 

Yes it seems strange but i think it is on purpose.
With a eighth note and a half note, the little hook of the eighth note 
(sorry don't remember how you call that in english) lets you to understand 
the duration of each merged notes.
There is no way to distinguish a quarter note and a half note if they are 
merged. It can make believe you that it is 2 half notes.
(of course reading forward in the measure let you imagine the real duration 
of each note)


Gilles 




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change staff to staff in different context

2008-02-08 Thread David Fedoruk
Hello:

I've used the \change Staff = upper command with success in another
score. Now I am using a more complex scheme layout and the staff I
need to change to is in another context. Using \change Staff  =
lhupper\lhOne will at least render something. Anything else I've
tried just stops lilypond in its tracks.

this is my layout:

% snip %%

\score{
\context PianoStaff

\set PianoStaff.instrumentName =  \markup { \large \bold { { 4 }}}
\context Staff = rh {

\context Voice = rhupper { \rhOne }
\context Voice = rhlower { \rhTwo }

}

\context Staff = lh {

\context Voice = lhupper { \lhOne }
\context Voice = lhlower { \lhTwo }

}


\layout {
\context {
\Score  
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn
 #'line-break-system-details = #'((alignment-offsets . 
(0 -14)))
}

\version 2.11.28


}
\midi { }
}

%%%

I've checked the snippets example, but that doesn't work with my
scheme. I am not just changing staff, the staff I want to change to is
in another context. Lilypond always tells me that  cannot change
`Context' to `rhTwo': none of these in my family. I think I haven't
told lilypond how to find the staff I want it to switch to correctly.
I've tried multiple variants but only get more errors.

Cheers,
David


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Re: change staff to staff in different context

2008-02-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson

The name of the Staff you want to change to is either rh
or lh, since that's the names you have specified for the
staves. It seems that you have confused these with the
names of the variables/macros/identifiers that contain the
actual music.

  /Mats

David Fedoruk wrote:


Hello:

I've used the \change Staff = upper command with success in another
score. Now I am using a more complex scheme layout and the staff I
need to change to is in another context. Using \change Staff  =
lhupper\lhOne will at least render something. Anything else I've
tried just stops lilypond in its tracks.

this is my layout:

% snip %%

\score{
\context PianoStaff

\set PianoStaff.instrumentName =  \markup { \large \bold { { 4 }}}
\context Staff = rh {

\context Voice = rhupper { \rhOne }
\context Voice = rhlower { \rhTwo }

}

\context Staff = lh {

\context Voice = lhupper { \lhOne }
\context Voice = lhlower { \lhTwo }

}


\layout {
\context {
\Score  
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn
 #'line-break-system-details = #'((alignment-offsets . 
(0 -14)))
}

\version 2.11.28


}
\midi { }
}

%%%

I've checked the snippets example, but that doesn't work with my
scheme. I am not just changing staff, the staff I want to change to is
in another context. Lilypond always tells me that  cannot change
`Context' to `rhTwo': none of these in my family. I think I haven't
told lilypond how to find the staff I want it to switch to correctly.
I've tried multiple variants but only get more errors.

Cheers,
David


 




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Dynamics

2008-02-08 Thread Marco Pagliari
I'm creating MIDI files for my choir. How can I set different volume levels 
for each section, to make one be in evidence among the others?
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Re: Part 1 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/3, Kurt Kroon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On page 10, first paragraph -- In that case, Double accidentals ...  What
 is this sentence quoting?  Perhaps it should just be integrated into the
 sentence.

It was originally a feature request posted by an user on the
mailing-list; and the contributor who wrote the snippet (I think it
was Rune) simply quoted his request, as it described clearly the
function's goal. However, you are right to point out that it can be
confusing (particularly since it's included in the NR); so I removed
the quoted sentence.

And BTW thank you for having taught me the word Ditto :-)

Cheers,
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Re: Crippled PS/RPM output on RHEL5

2008-02-08 Thread Ozgur Yuksel
On Feb 7, 2008 5:00 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/2/7, Ozgur Yuksel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I am working with GNU LilyPond 2.11.37 (the problem had existed with
2.10 too) on one RHEL5 box and a FC7 box. Although I have proper
output  with my FC7 box, I get crippled output (both PS and PDF) on
RHEL5. The attached files bad.* show the crippled pdf and ps files of
test.ly where it looks like good.png with fc7.
  
   Can you post the output of a --verbose run on the RHEL5 box?

 Mats was right; the problem is in reading the correct fonts.

 Can you run an strace of the binary?  You'll probably have to modify
 the wrapper script (bin/lilypond) to be like

   strace path/to/lilypond 

 The output will be huge.  I'm just looking for the places where
 libfontconfig.so.X.Y and libpango.so.X.Y is opened, so grep for
 libfontconfig and libpango

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Hi,
I have changed ~/bin/lilypond as follows:

#!/bin/sh
me=`basename $0`
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/
exec /usr/bin/strace -f -o lily.strace
/home/oyuksel//lilypond/usr/bin/$me $@

and got the strace output:

 $ grep libfontconfig  lily.strace
 4126  open(/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3
 $ grep libpango lily.strace
 4126  open(/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 3
 4126  open(/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 3

that seems OK to me actually.

Regards,
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Re: 2.11.38 LSR Adding accidentals to a trillspanner

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/3, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sorry!  I don't know enough to know what is broken/changed.  I was
 hoping for a fix so I didn't have to hand mark the part.

This is actually one of the snippets that I had to tag as
version-specific. So, we're aware that it is potentially a tricky
snippet to update, but this will have to wait until we upgrade the
LSR.

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/4, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Interesting!  I must admit that I found nothing objectionable with
 the whiches that Kurt suggested replacing with that...
 actually, in a few cases, I thought that which sounded better.

I often use which, because I like it much more than that; however, I
must do horrible sentences without knowing it, since I'm French, and
have never learned English in any other way than TV-shows and
mailinglists :)

...*Which* is why I apologize for the point *that* Kurt raised :) I am
probably the one to blame for odd formulations in snippets
descriptions etc.

Cheers,
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Re: [FWD: RE: Thematic index]

2008-02-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Steve,

It's taking a certain amount of fiddling to get the surrounding  
markup really right.


If you post some of the fiddly code, perhaps we can help un-fiddle  
it...


Best,
Kieren.


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Re: recorder fingering chart

2008-02-08 Thread Libero Mureddu
Hi Valentin,
I will post my snippet.
I have, however, other questions regarding recorder notation:
1) is it possible to center a markup over an analysis bracket? I'm
manually moving it using \translate within the markup.
2) I don't know how to notate + and o signs commonly used for
french horn notation  for open and bouché sounds (this would
correspond on the recorder notation to open and close window hole),
is there a way commonly used by lilyponders?

ciao

libero



 Hi Libero,

 go ahead and post your snippet! Then I'll see if it needs any
 improvements. Your code is fine; perhaps you may want to post several
 snippets more simple, e.g. How to obtain slashed fingering numbers,
 How to write a Recorder fingering chart, etc. It's preferable to
 make it simple and short, so that each snippet deals with *one* single
 specific issue.

 Cheers,
 Valentin




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Re: Why Is This Merge Behavior Different?

2008-02-08 Thread Ted Stanion
Please note that I understand that it is LilyPond's intended behavior
to never merge a quarter note and a half note regardless of how
properties are set. I also understand why this should be the default
behavior. I guess I don't understand why setting
'merge-differently-headed should not override the default behavior for
quarter notes as well as flagged notes. I've attached a snippet of
some old sheet music which does merge a quarter note and a half note.
While in some contexts it might be ambiguous, in this case, it is not.

BTW, I have figured out how to fake the behavior that I want.

Ted


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Gilles THIBAULT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ted Stanion [EMAIL PROTECTED], lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:27:38 +0100
 Subject: Re: Why Is This Merge Behavior Different?
  Can someone explain to me why the eighth note and half
  note have their heads merged in the first measure while the quarter
  note and the half note in the second measure do not?
  \relative c''
  {
  \new Voice  {
   c8 c4.
   \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##t
   c8 c4.
   \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##f
   c4 c4
   \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##t
   \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-dotted = ##t
   c4 c4 } \\
   { c2 c2 c2 c2 } 
 Yes it seems strange but i think it is on purpose.
 With a eighth note and a half note, the little hook of the eighth note
 (sorry don't remember how you call that in english) lets you to understand
 the duration of each merged notes.
 There is no way to distinguish a quarter note and a half note if they are
 merged. It can make believe you that it is 2 half notes.
 (of course reading forward in the measure let you imagine the real duration
 of each note)

 Gilles

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Re: 2.11.38 LSR Adding accidentals to a trillspanner

2008-02-08 Thread Paul Scott

Valentin Villenave wrote:

2008/2/3, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  

Sorry!  I don't know enough to know what is broken/changed.  I was
hoping for a fix so I didn't have to hand mark the part.



This is actually one of the snippets that I had to tag as
version-specific. So, we're aware that it is potentially a tricky
snippet to update, but this will have to wait until we upgrade the
LSR.
  
I've been very busy getting out other parts for various groups.  I will 
post a solution as soon as I can.


Thanks,

Paul



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GDP: LM 3-4

2008-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
I'd like to draw attention to the Learning Manual, chapters 3
Fundamental concepts and 4 Tweaks.

- if you're a new user, PLEASE read these in detail.  There's a lot of
very helpful information in there.  In addition, it should all be
understandable -- if you start at LM 2 Tutorial and read to the end of
LM 4, you should be able to understand everything.  If you can't, we
consider it a bug in the documentation.  :)

- if you're an advanced user and haven't done so already, please skim
through this material.  The lilypond docs are famously written by
people who don't know what they're talking about[1], so we really need
knowledgeable users to verify what we write.

[1]  No insult to Trevor Daniels; he's done an amazing job of the LM.
But he had to learn each subject from scratch in order to write the
docs, so there's no guarantee that he covered everything.


Latest GDP docs
http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/

(although these are almost identical to the 2.11.39 docs at the
moment)

Cheers,
- Graham


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GDP: index entries for snippets

2008-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
Latest GDP docs
http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/

(although these are almost identical to the 2.11.39 docs at the
moment)


Do we want index entries for snippets?  For example, in
  NR 1.1.3.2 Key signature
there are two snippets: suppressing natural signs in key
signatures, and non-standard key signatures.

Do you want to have items like:
@cindex key signatures, suppressing natural signs
@cindex don't print natural signs in key signatures
@cindex key signatures, non-standard
@cindex key signatures, whole tone

pointing to these?  Adding index entries for all the snippets
increases the amount of work that we need to do on each doc
section, of course.

I'm personally not convinced that these are necessary -- after
all, if a user can't find key signature in the index, he won't
be able to find key signature, suppressing natural signs.  And
if he _is_ looking a way to avoid printing natural signs in key
signatures, I think he'd look at key signatures even if there
wasn't a key signature, suppressing natural signs entry.


More examples are in
  NR 1.2.1.2 Tuplets

such as
@funindex tupletNumberFormatFunction
@funindex tupletSpannerDuration
and
@cindex tuplet bracket length
@cindex triplet bracket length
@cindex bracket length, tuplets


Of course, I famously never use the index, so I'm not the best
person to judge whether certain index entries are helpful or not.
Discuss.

Cheers,
- Graham


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RE: LM 3-4

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels

Graham Percival wrote on 08 February 2008 19:54
 
 I'd like to draw attention to the Learning 
 Manual, chapters 3
 Fundamental concepts and 4 Tweaks.
 
 - if you're a new user, PLEASE read these in 
 detail.  There's a lot of
 very helpful information in there.  In addition, 
 it should all be
 understandable -- if you start at LM 2 Tutorial 
 and read to the end of LM 4,

Well, perhaps to the end of 4.5.  I haven't started
on 4.6 yet, although there is some old material
there.
 
you should be able to understand 
 everything.  

LM 3 and LM 4 are quite hard going for anyone
fairly new to LilyPond.  Normally these sections
would be best deferred until you were comfortable
with everything in LM 2, and had come across some
problems you couldn't solve easily.  

 If you can't, we
 consider it a bug in the documentation.  :)
 
 - if you're an advanced user and haven't done so 
 already, please skim
 through this material.  The lilypond docs are 
 famously written by
 people who don't know what they're talking 
 about[1], so we really need
 knowledgeable users to verify what we write.
 
 [1]  No insult to Trevor Daniels; he's done an 
 amazing job of the LM.
 But he had to learn each subject from scratch in 
 order to write the
 docs, so there's no guarantee that he covered 
 everything.

or that what he has written is correct ;)
 
 
 Latest GDP docs
 http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/
 
 (although these are almost identical to the 
 2.11.39 docs at the
 moment)
 
 Cheers,
 - Graham
 
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Re: recorder fingering chart

2008-02-08 Thread Tim Reeves
libero wrote:

2) I don't know how to notate + and o signs commonly used for
french horn notation  for open and bouché sounds (this would
correspond on the recorder notation to open and close window hole),
is there a way commonly used by lilyponders?

ciao

libero


Would this work for you?

\version 2.11.38
\include english.ly
\score
{\relative c'
{
c-+ d-+ e-\flageolet f-\flageolet
}

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Re: Any way to hand-tweak odd page numbers?

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/6, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ah: sticking \hspace in the page number markup works:

Cool! Can you add it to the LSR?

Cheers,
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RE: index entries for snippets

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels

Graham Percival wrote on 08 February 2008 19:49
 
 Do we want index entries for snippets?  For example, in
   NR 1.1.3.2 Key signature
 there are two snippets: suppressing natural signs in key
 signatures, and non-standard key signatures.
 
 Do you want to have items like:
 @cindex key signatures, suppressing natural signs
 @cindex don't print natural signs in key signatures
 @cindex key signatures, non-standard
 @cindex key signatures, whole tone

These are not helpful, especially the one beginning
with don't, which is silly, but I would like both 
these snippets to be indexed with

@cindex natural sign, suppressing

At present the only entry for naturals takes you to
a section on text markup commands.  Not helpful if
you're looking for a way to suppress extra naturals.
 
 More examples are in
   NR 1.2.1.2 Tuplets
 
 such as
 @funindex tupletNumberFormatFunction
 @funindex tupletSpannerDuration
 and
 @cindex tuplet bracket length
 @cindex triplet bracket length
 @cindex bracket length, tuplets 

An index is helpful only if it includes the term the
user has in mind when he conducts a search.  Sure,
if that term isn't found, he'll try another, but the
whole point of an index is to make it as quick and
easy as possible to go from query to answer.
So index entries should be constructed by thinking
of what questions the user might have which could
be answered by reading this section, and index the
key terms in the questions, not the terms in the
answer.  So these are good (I wrote them, so I have
to support them ;)

 Cheers,
 - Graham
 
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Re: index entries for snippets

2008-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:08:08 -
Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 @cindex natural sign, suppressing
 
 At present the only entry for naturals takes you to
 a section on text markup commands.  Not helpful if
 you're looking for a way to suppress extra naturals.

Well, obviously we want a
@cindex natural sign

at the top of Accidentals.  (Ralph?)

Assuming that we have that, do you still think we need a
@cindex natural sign, suppressing

for the snippets?  I mean, if natural sign points to the top of
the page anyway, dos natural sign, suppressing really add
anything?

Cheers,
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Re: Error Message

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/5, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Working with a copy of the file, you can try to comment out
 (or remove) sections of the file to narrow down where the problem is.

...or you can use the LilyPondTool plugin for the jEdit editor, that
highlights such errors in real time: http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/

Cheers,
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Re: parenthesized dynamics, that behave like dynamics

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/4, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Please add this to LSR, with tags text and docs.

Done:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=382

By the way, if anyone has a better title...

Cheers,
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RE: index entries for snippets

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels

Graham Percival wrote on 08 February 2008 21:26
 
 On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:08:08 -
 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  @cindex natural sign, suppressing
  
  At present the only entry for naturals takes you to
  a section on text markup commands.  Not helpful if
  you're looking for a way to suppress extra naturals.
 
 Well, obviously we want a
 @cindex natural sign
 
 at the top of Accidentals.  (Ralph?)
 
 Assuming that we have that, do you still think we need a
 @cindex natural sign, suppressing
 
 for the snippets?  I mean, if natural sign 
 points to the top of
 the page anyway, dos natural sign, suppressing 
 really add anything?
 
Maybe not.  In this case the page is quite short, so
reading through it is not too onerous.  But without
the suppressing entry the user looking for how to
suppress naturals does not know whether or not it is 
there - he has to read through the page on the 
off-chance it may contain what he seeks.  With the 
specific index entry he will -know- that what he is 
looking for -is- on that page.  That's the difference
and that's why it is helpful to include it.
 
 Cheers,
 - Graham
 



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Re: recorder fingering chart

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/4, Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I post here the complete example of the chart I'm working on; I want
 to post it to lsr, but I'd prefer to get some suggestion from the list
 first.

Hi Libero,

go ahead and post your snippet! Then I'll see if it needs any
improvements. Your code is fine; perhaps you may want to post several
snippets more simple, e.g. How to obtain slashed fingering numbers,
How to write a Recorder fingering chart, etc. It's preferable to
make it simple and short, so that each snippet deals with *one* single
specific issue.

Cheers,
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Re: Dynamics

2008-02-08 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2008/2/8, Marco Pagliari [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm creating MIDI files for my choir. How can I set different volume
 levels
 for each section, to make one be in evidence among the others?


Just add some volume marker like \mp \pp \ff to the first note.
see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Dynamics

see perhaps also a sample how I apply different general dynamics to
different voices in the \midi section:
http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/folk-fr/tourdion.ly

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Re: Arabic music half flat accidental shape

2008-02-08 Thread Hans Aberg

On 8 Feb 2008, at 15:02, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:


Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 schrieb Hans Aberg:

A
half flat in Arabic music is displayed as a b but with a slash
across (It is
hard to describe the shape precisely). Is it possible to access  
such a

symbol, and if not, is it possible to add it in the future?


Is this what they use on
   http://www.maqamworld.com/


It seems to me that this is exactly the accidentals.flat.slash  
character in

Lilypond's feta font:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/The-Feta- 
font


[For some reason, the glyphs do not show in Safari - Firefox is fine,  
though.]


In this case, you don't have to draw the glyph yourself, just use  
this glyph

instead of accidentals.mirroredflat for a quarter-flat tone!


I think so, too, though the design of the half-flat at Maqam World is  
somewhat denser.


The Persian koron and sori are amiss, though there are some Turkish  
accidentals.


Timidity can retune MIDI-files (with the -Z option), which can be  
created using Scala, and also, I have written a Haskell program  
creating such retuning files for 53-ET, in case somebody wants to  
experiment with LilyPond MIDI files.


Looking back, LilyPond has some microtone capabilities, but I do not  
know how it works. Is there some info available about it somewhere?


  Hans Åberg




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RE: Dynamics

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels

You can either use different instruments or set the
dynamics differently.  Look at section 4.3.1 in the
2.11 Notation Reference for the former, and Dynamics
in section 1.3 for the latter.

Trevor D 

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 I'm creating MIDI files for my choir. How can I 
 set different volume levels 
 for each section, to make one be in evidence 
 among the others?
 Thank you very much.
 
 
 
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Dynamics 2

2008-02-08 Thread Marco Pagliari
I'm creating MIDI files for my choir. How can I set different volume levels 
for each section, to make one be in evidence among the others?
What I understand by reading section 1.3 is that dynamics can only be attached 
to notes, so I should repeat the dynamic mark for each note. Is there a way to 
declare the dynamic mark at the beginning of a complete section without the 
need to reapet it?
Thanks.
Marco



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Re: Arabic music half flat accidental shape

2008-02-08 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 schrieb Hans Aberg:
  A
  half flat in Arabic music is displayed as a b but with a slash
  across (It is
  hard to describe the shape precisely). Is it possible to access such a
  symbol, and if not, is it possible to add it in the future?

 Is this what they use on
http://www.maqamworld.com/

It seems to me that this is exactly the accidentals.flat.slash character in 
Lilypond's feta font:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/The-Feta-font

In this case, you don't have to draw the glyph yourself, just use this glyph 
instead of accidentals.mirroredflat for a quarter-flat tone!

Cheers,
Reinhold
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Re: Dynamics 2

2008-02-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson

LilyPond interprets dynamics the same way as a musician does, namely
that each dynamics indication lasts until the next one appears, so 
there's no

need to repeat the same dynamics indication (actually, LilyPond
follows this rule much more strictly than most musicians).

   /Mats

Marco Pagliari wrote:
I'm creating MIDI files for my choir. How can I set different volume levels 
for each section, to make one be in evidence among the others?
What I understand by reading section 1.3 is that dynamics can only be attached 
to notes, so I should repeat the dynamic mark for each note. Is there a way to 
declare the dynamic mark at the beginning of a complete section without the 
need to reapet it?

Thanks.
Marco



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Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-02-03

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/3, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The one big change: since nobody has touched the texi2html stuff
 on the technical TODO list  (estimated: 3 hours for a perl
 programmer), it appears that we're not going to get longer HTML
 pages.  You may recall that the original plan was to have all of
 1.1.1 Writing pitches  on a single page.

I was not a big fan of having longer pages, so as far as I'm
concerned, I'm fine with it the way it is. Plus, I'd like to say that
this first result of the GDP process is quite a nice success; kudos to
all helpers! I wish the next steps will be as good as this one :)

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: Program crashes whenever I start it (not solved yet)

2008-02-08 Thread Bryan Previte
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengtsson at ee.kth.se writes:

 - If the previous didn seem to work, you can run the command
 lilypond --verbose  C:\lilypond.log 21
   which hopefully should produce a text file C:\lilypond.log, with printouts
   from the lilypond command. Send a copy of this file to the mailing list.

It still didn't work. This is the text of the file.

GNU LilyPond 2.10.33
warning: Relocation: from PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\
System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\client\;C:\Program Files\
jEdit;C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn\;C:\Program Files\
QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin;C:\Program Files\LilyPond
\usr\bin;C:\adabas\bin;C:\adabas\pgm;C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\MUVEET~1\030625
argv0=lilypond
PATH=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin (prepend)
Setting PATH to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\
WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\client\;;
C:\Program Files\jEdit;C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn\;C:\
Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin;C:\Program
Files\LilyPond\usr\bin;C:\adabas\bin;C:\adabas\pgm;;C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\MUVEET~1
\030625
warning: Relocation: compile datadir=, new datadir=C:/Program 
Files/LilyPond/usr/
share/lilypond//current
warning: Relocation: framework_prefix=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/..
Setting INSTALLER_PREFIX to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/..
Relocation file C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/relocate//fontconfig.
reloc
Setting FONTCONFIG_FILE to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts/fonts.
conf
Setting FONTCONFIG_PATH to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts
Relocation file C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/relocate//gs.reloc
warning: no such directory: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/
ghostscript/8.57/fonts for GS_FONTPATH
warning: no such directory: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/gs/
fonts for GS_FONTPATH
warning: no such directory: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/
ghostscript/8.57/Resource for GS_LIB
GS_LIB=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/8.57/lib (prepend)
Setting GS_LIB to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/
8.57/lib
Relocation file C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/relocate//guile.
reloc
GUILE_LOAD_PATH=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/guile/1.8 (prepend)
Setting GUILE_LOAD_PATH to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/
guile/1.8
Relocation file C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/relocate//pango.
reloc
Setting PANGO_RC_FILE to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/pango/
pangorc
Setting PANGO_PREFIX to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../
PATH=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../bin (prepend)
Setting PATH to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../bin;C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/usr/bin;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\
Wbem;C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\client\;;C:\Program Files\jEdit;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn\;C:\Program Files\
QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin;C:\Program Files\
LilyPond\usr\bin;C:\adabas\bin;C:\adabas\pgm;;C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\MUVEET~1\
030625
Setting GUILE_MIN_YIELD_1 to 65
Setting GUILE_MIN_YIELD_2 to 65
Setting GUILE_MIN_YIELD_MALLOC to 65
Setting GUILE_INIT_SEGMENT_SIZE_1 to 10485760
Setting GUILE_MAX_SEGMENT_SIZE to 104857600

LILYPOND_DATADIR=/usr/share/lilypond/2.10.33
LOCALEDIR=/usr/share/locale

Effective prefix: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/
current
FONTCONFIG_FILE=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts/fonts.conf
FONTCONFIG_PATH=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts
GS_LIB=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/8.57/lib
GUILE_LOAD_PATH=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/guile/1.8
PANGO_RC_FILE=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/pango/pangorc
PANGO_PREFIX=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../
PATH=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../bin;C:/Program Files/LilyPond/
usr/bin;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program
 Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\client\;;C:\Program Files\jEdit;C:\Program 
Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn\;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\
QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\
bin;C:\adabas\bin;C:\adabas\pgm;;C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\MUVEET~1\030625
[]
[C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-
library.scm][C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/current/
scm/file-cache.scm][C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/
current/scm/define-event-classes.scm][C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../
share/lilypond/current/scm/define-music-types.scm][C:/Program Files/
LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/current/scm/output-lib.scm][C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/current/scm/c++.scm][C:/Program 

Re: how to shorten a TrillSpanner

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Bača
On Jul 31, 2006 9:14 PM, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/25/06, Kieren Richard MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hello, all!
 
  I'm trying to fix the collision in the following example:
 
  \version 2.9.5
  \relative
  {
  \once \override TrillSpanner #'shorten-pair = #'( 10 . 10 )
  c1 \startTrillSpan b\stopTrillSpan\startTrillSpan
 c\stopTrillSpan
  }
 
  Doesn't matter what numbers I use -- no effect.
  [n.b., I used the same technique on an OttavaBracket, and it worked
  as expected.]

 Hi Kieren,

 I'm facing exactly the same problem tonight; did you ever get a
 solution for shortening wavy trill lines (and thus preventing their
 collision)?

 Your posts from June show that you weren't able to get shorten-pair to
 do anything for trills, and that's my experience here, too.

 Anything creative?



Always fun to reply to a thread from a year and a half ago, so here goes:

There's now a *much* better way of shortening one end of a trill spanner
manually: using the new (as of 2.11.something) #'bound-details list. Here's
an example.


Adjacent trill spanners overlap uncomfortably by default:

   \new Staff {
  c1 \startTrillSpan b\stopTrillSpan\startTrillSpan c\stopTrillSpan
   }


You might think that #'shorten-pair would do the trick, but it doesn't:

   \new Staff {
  \once \override TrillSpanner #'shorten-pair = #'(0 . -2)
  c1 \startTrillSpan b\stopTrillSpan\startTrillSpan c\stopTrillSpan
   }


But you can instead use the #'right sublist of #'bound-details:

\new Staff {
   \once \override TrillSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding = #2
   c1 \startTrillSpan b\stopTrillSpan\startTrillSpan c\stopTrillSpan
}



The key to figuring this out is that, as of 2.11.12 or .13 or so,
TrillSpanner implements all the goodies in the #'bound-details list
described in 1.8.3.2 Text and line spanners.


[I can't remember if I've mailed this one out before or not, but as I had to
spend a couple of minutes rediscovering it myself, I thought I'd share. Also
mental note to check and add to LSR ...]



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Re: GDP: LM 3-4

2008-02-08 Thread calvin mitcham
graham:

 LM 3 and LM 4 are quite hard going for anyone fairly new to LilyPond.
thank you trevor! i am certainly a newbie, and although i have always found
these sections very confusing, i never spoke up cause i had no suggestions
about how to improve them. now that i'm trying to help, i'll ramble out loud
here a little... to just read these sections is confusing and boring. the
tweaking is especially hard to read. i mean i hardly ever have an issue
about how lilypond engraves, and when it is different than what i'm
transcribing, i usually don't care. i realize i am at the very bottom of the
lilypond user pool, i simply want my lesson pieces larger for my old eyes,
and the midi output is great too. enough rambling.

i was proud/relieved recently, when after ~10 minutes of targetted study, i
got a

\once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'padding = #4
\tempo 4=88
\set Score.skipBars = ##t R1*3

to move the tempo marking above the 3 for the multi-measure rest. when
given a specific problem to solve like this, the lm and nr docs are quite
helpful. i had to get the naming convention, which engraver, and the
property, and it worked out pretty quickly. but to just peruse the list of
objects and properties is painful.
 now file structure is another confusing subject where again i have no
sugesstion, but i do wish it were easier for the newbie. i worked on a
couple of pieces for hours trying to use includes etc to completely minimize
the amount of repeating any typing, such as putting music notes for violin,
pianoright and pianoleft in separate files, the combining to print a score,
a piano part with reduced violin above, and a violin by itself. i got
something passable, but never nailed where some things. for example, i could
not get a piano with smaller violin staff without repeating the violin music
with a smaller staff, or having the violin part not show fingerings in the
piano printout.


 On Feb 8, 2008 2:54 PM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd like to draw attention to the Learning Manual, chapters 3
 Fundamental concepts and 4 Tweaks.

 - if you're a new user, PLEASE read these in detail.
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Subject: GDP: index entries for snippets

2008-02-08 Thread Jay Hamilton
As a former librarian, I know that creating indexes is a total pain and 
unfortunately should be as extensive and repetitious as possible.
Over-estimating the users ability/intelligence is a grave error.


Yours-
Jay

Jay Hamilton


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