RE: outputting multiple parts from a score and 1 is not is not output

2008-12-08 Thread Nick Payne
You could try adding 

ragged-bottom = ##t
ragged-last-bottom = ##t

to the \paper section.

Nick

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 Subject: outputting multiple parts from a score and 1 is not is not
 output
 
 Ok, heheh, I found the missing file. When lily outputs the multiple
 parts to individual files they are called
 filename.pdf
 filename-1.pdf
 filename-2.pdf
 etc etc
 
 I was looking for filename-1.pdf through filename-6.pdf but lo and
 behold! there is no -6 because of the aforementioned naming scheme.
 
 Okay, so that's out of the way, howabout this -
 
 My short piece prints on two pages, the score that is, not the parts.
 On
 page one there is a large gap of white space between the two systems,
 but on page 2 there is the expected small gap between them with the
 large white space below the second system. What must I do to get page
 one to print that same way? It's looks bad with that large gap between
 the two systems.
 Regards,
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[2.11.65] \dotsDown doesn't work?

2008-12-08 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
Hello,

  i've cut four bars from two voices from some piece, SA-TB (two staves)
  (please see below the snippet, only tenor and bass, no lyrics).

  When lilypond produces whole piece, there is a collision in \bass:
  upper tie crosses lower dot (mmm... probably, not allways, but sometimes;-).

  For some reason, it does not happen in this snippet; but the question is --
  why \dotsDown does not work here (in chords of the second voice)?

% --- cut
\version 2.11.65

tenor = \relative b {
  \clef bass
\time 3/4
\key g \major
%
\voiceOne
b2. ~
b2.
%34
b2. ~
b2.
}

bass = \relative g {
  \clef bass
\time 3/4
\key g \major
%
\voiceTwo
d g,2. ~
d g,2.
%34
\dotsDown
d g,2. ~
d g,2.
}

{  \tenor \bass  }
% --- cut

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Re: Again: Whole Bar Rests and Unmetered Music

2008-12-08 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/12/7 Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It's not a very elegant solution, but you could override the stencil
 using \musicglyph to access the semibreve rest, positioning it
 manually using 'X-offset and 'staff-position.
Mmm... Adjusting 'X-offset is really not a very elegant way :-)

But a possible one, anyway.

I've also found 'use-breve-rest
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/multi_002dmeasure_002drest_002dinterface#multi_002dmeasure_002drest_002dinterface),
but it seems it doesn't work. Or, most probably, i've misunderstood it.

 Regards,
 Neil

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Re: MediaWiki-Extension for Lilypond

2008-12-08 Thread Hajo Dezelski
It works also within MediaWiki-Software as an extension.

In the Lilypond.php file you have to change the parameters:

$cmd = $wgLilypond
 -d safe -d eps --format=png ---header=textidoc 

I still have some formatting problems, but first I have to read the manuals
;-)

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lilypnd not available in publishing package

2008-12-08 Thread Jos Koning
Hello,

In none of the cygwin pachages I checked (under publishing with cygwin 
setup.exe) seems Lilypiond to be available. Nevertheless I should, according 
to instructions on the Dutch site I use. I am looking for a Windows XP 
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Re: lilypnd not available in publishing package

2008-12-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/12/8 Jos Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello,

 In none of the cygwin pachages I checked (under publishing with cygwin
 setup.exe) seems Lilypiond to be available. Nevertheless I should, according
 to instructions on the Dutch site I use. I am looking for a Windows XP
 version. What should I do

Whilst LilyPond required cygwin several years ago, it is now
*natively* available for Windows (which is good news).

Have a look at
http://lilypond.org/web/install/
(preferably the latest version, at the bottom of the page)

Cheers,
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Re: another newbie download problem

2008-12-08 Thread David Bobroff

Pierre Russell Straddler wrote:

preface:  I just got a top posting error message, which I've never seen
before.  I apologise for this breech of protocol and etiquette




Hi there


I tried to download Lilypond from the lilypond site.  When I do what I am told
(i.e. open with text editor) I get this message:

could not open the file /tmp/lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh.
gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.  Please check that you
are nopt trying to open a binary file.  Select a character coding from the menu
and try again

(my choices are Current Locale (UTF-8) and Western (ISO-8859-15)

neither of which work.

That said,

lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh 


is sitting on my desktop.

I open a terminal window and type

sh lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh 


and I get the error

sh: can't open lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh


?

so I looked around a little bit and found this:





I downloaded the file from website, but when tried to open it got a message:

Could not open the file /home/anne/Desktop/lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-ppc.sh.

Yes; apparently gedit is trying to open the .sh files as shell
scripts; however the LilyPond distribution is actually a shar
self-extracting archive (same extension, but completely different size
and data in it).

You just have to _execute_ this file:

just open a terminal, and type

cd ~/Desktop
sudo lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-ppc.sh




+ + +


I am not a power PC user, but instead an x86 user with the latest version of
Ubuntu and so I typed:

the cd ~/Desktop
sudo lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

still didn't work.  I get the error

Can't open lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh


Anyone?  Please?


Well one thing I see is that the filename is wrong.  You have:

lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

and it should be:

lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh

That is, no dot following the '33' in the filename.  You may also need 
to do a chmod to make the file executable.


Hope this helps,

David



Thanking you!

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Re: another newbie download problem

2008-12-08 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/12/8 Pierre Russell Straddler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 the cd ~/Desktop
 sudo lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

 still didn't work.  I get the error

 Can't open lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

Those filenames plenty of dashes and dots are almost impossible to
type correctly, please do the following:

- forget 2.10 and download 2.11.65, the latest candidate to stable release.
- when gedit tries to open it, choose save file instead just like
you did before.
- move to where the file is and type
sudo sh lilyp
then press the [TAB] key. This should auto-complete the filename. If
it is not fully auto-completed (maybe because you still have 2.10 in
the directory), it should stop at lilypond-2.1, then just write
another '1' and press TAB again.
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Re: font switching help

2008-12-08 Thread Trevor Bača
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:06 AM, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After much searching, I found it. Fontbook installs user-installed fonts to
 a directory that isn't indexed by fontconfig ~/Library/Fonts. After I
 realised that, I knew to tell fontbook to install my fonts system-wide,
 apparently, osx doesn't use ~/.fonts/ which fontconfig does index.


Hi James,

Glad everything worked out. I've had to solve this same problem a couple of
times under OS X 10.4 myself. The post here ...

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-02/msg00087.html

... basically says you can copy stuff to ~./fonts to solve the problem. A
better solution is just sym linking, which Han-Wen points out later in the
thread.


Trevor.




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Bug? Multi-bar rest + semibreve = bars skipped

2008-12-08 Thread Silas S . Brown
Hi, is this a bug or a feature? - on Lilypond 2.10.33 if you do

c'1 R1*4 d' e'

it leaves some extra blank bars after the D.
To get around it, you have to write

c'1 R1*4 d'1 e'

i.e. you can't assume that the 1 from the
R1*4 will carry over to the next note. 
Should this be mentioned in the documentation?

Thanks.

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French Score only when it actually saves paper?

2008-12-08 Thread Silas S . Brown
Hi, I have an orchestral score that has only 1
system per page.  I did:

\layout {
   \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
}

and it works great, except for one problem: On
most pages, not enough of the staves are removed
to be able to fit another system on.  Result: the
reader has to do more work looking at which
stave is which, while no paper is being saved.

There doesn't seem much point in doing
RemoveEmptyStaff if it doesn't actually save
paper but just leaves a slightly bigger gap at
the bottom of the page.  Is there any way (or
could it be added to some list of possible
future features) that \RemoveEmptyStaffContext
can be extended with the logic if, after removing
empty staffs and paginating, any page has only
one system on it, then put back all the empty
staffs on that page ?

Or if that's too hard, maybe if, after
removing empty staffs, any system is bigger
than half a page height, then put back the
empty staffs on that system - but that would
not be quite so good, because it wouldn't
account for what happens when there's a single
3-staff system between two 15-staff systems -
the 3-staff system would probably still have a
page to itself just because it can't be fitted
on either of its neighbour pages, in which case
it might as well have all staffs.  It would be
better to first paginate and then put back
empty staffs.  But at least don't remove empty
staffs on systems that would still be bigger
than half a page high would catch some cases.

Or how about this: Remove empty staffs, but
only on systems that have at least N empty
staffs, where N is a number that I specify.
This has the same limitations as the previous
one but doesn't have to know about page height.

Or: Remove empty staffs, but only if this
system has at least N empty staffs AND ((this
isn't the last system AND the next system has
at least N empty staffs) OR (this isn't the
first system AND the previous system has at
least N empty staffs)).  That would let the
user choose a value of N that would result in
empty staves being removed only when this would
actually result in more than 1 system being
able to fit on a page, while the empty staff
remover would not have to know about pagination
or page height.  However it would still be
limited in that if there were, say, 3 systems
each half a page high, with full-page systems
before and after the 3 half-page systems, then
the 3rd half-page system would leave half a
blank page and might as well have all its
staves filled in.

Or maybe just allow the user to switch
empty-staff removal on and off at arbitrary bars.
That would at least allow the user to go
through the printed output and manually adjust
it to make sure empty staffs are removed only
in sections where it makes sense to do so.

Thanks.

Silas


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Re: Bug? Multi-bar rest + semibreve = bars skipped

2008-12-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 06:08:57PM +, Silas S. Brown wrote:
 c'1 R1*4 d'1 e'
 
 i.e. you can't assume that the 1 from the
 R1*4 will carry over to the next note. 

Umm, no.  You *can* assume that the 1*4 from the R1*4 carries
over to the next note.

 Should this be mentioned in the documentation?

I suppose that it wouldn't hurt to mention it in NR 1.2.1 Scaling
durations.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: font switching help

2008-12-08 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 08.12.2008 um 19:06 schrieb Trevor Bača:

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:06 AM, james [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
After much searching, I found it. Fontbook installs user-installed  
fonts to a directory that isn't indexed by fontconfig ~/Library/ 
Fonts. After I realised that, I knew to tell fontbook to install my  
fonts system-wide, apparently, osx doesn't use ~/.fonts/ which  
fontconfig does index.


Hi James,

Glad everything worked out. I've had to solve this same problem a  
couple of times under OS X 10.4 myself. The post here ...


  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-02/ 
msg00087.html


... basically says you can copy stuff to ~./fonts to solve the  
problem. A better solution is just sym linking, which Han-Wen  
points out later in the thread.


Since I already have a solution that works for me, the question is  
pure curiosity, but what's better about sym linking? And is that  
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Re: another newbie download problem

2008-12-08 Thread Rob Canning

Pierre Russell Straddler wrote:

preface:  I just got a top posting error message, which I've never seen
before.  I apologise for this breech of protocol and etiquette




Hi there


I tried to download Lilypond from the lilypond site.  When I do what I am told
(i.e. open with text editor) I get this message:

could not open the file /tmp/lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh.
gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.  Please check that you
are nopt trying to open a binary file.  Select a character coding from the menu
and try again

(my choices are Current Locale (UTF-8) and Western (ISO-8859-15)

neither of which work.

That said,

lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh 


is sitting on my desktop.

I open a terminal window and type

sh lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh 


and I get the error

sh: can't open lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh


?

so I looked around a little bit and found this:





I downloaded the file from website, but when tried to open it got a message:

Could not open the file /home/anne/Desktop/lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-ppc.sh.

Yes; apparently gedit is trying to open the .sh files as shell
scripts; however the LilyPond distribution is actually a shar
self-extracting archive (same extension, but completely different size
and data in it).

You just have to _execute_ this file:

just open a terminal, and type

cd ~/Desktop
sudo lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-ppc.sh




+ + +


I am not a power PC user, but instead an x86 user with the latest version of
Ubuntu and so I typed:

the cd ~/Desktop
sudo lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

still didn't work.  I get the error

Can't open lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh
  

sudo sh lilypond-2.11.65.1.linux-x86
works fine here...

maybe try with ./

sudo sh ./lilypond-2.11.65.1.linux-x86.sh

and perhaps chmod +x lilypond-2.11.65.1.linux-x86.sh

then

sudo ./lilypond-2.11.65.1.linux-x86.sh

hmmm just noticed a possible typo in your command

lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

should there be a dot after 33???

use the tab key to autocomplete in terminal - saves time





Anyone?  Please?

Thanking you!

Pierre Russell Straddler




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Re: another newbie download problem

2008-12-08 Thread Pierre Russell Straddler
Francisco Vila paconet.org at gmail.com writes:

 
 2008/12/8 Pierre Russell Straddler pleaseandthankingyou at gmail.com:
  the cd ~/Desktop
  sudo lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh
 
  still didn't work.  I get the error
 
  Can't open lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh
 
 Those filenames plenty of dashes and dots are almost impossible to
 type correctly, please do the following:
 
 - forget 2.10 and download 2.11.65, the latest candidate to stable release.
 - when gedit tries to open it, choose save file instead just like
 you did before.
 - move to where the file is and type
 sudo sh lilyp
 then press the [TAB] key. This should auto-complete the filename. If
 it is not fully auto-completed (maybe because you still have 2.10 in
 the directory), it should stop at lilypond-2.1, then just write
 another '1' and press TAB again.

excellent.  I believe it worked...  Yaaay!  Thank you.  But because I am new to
linux, I am looking for an icon to double click, and sadly am not finding it.
 I can see it in the /usr/local/bin...it's there with a number of other
obviously lilypond related documents.

does lilypond need to be opened from the terminal (shell?)--and if so, uh, how
do you do that again?

(newbie.)

thank you!

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Re: another newbie download problem

2008-12-08 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Pierre Russell Straddler wrote:

Francisco Vila paconet.org at gmail.com writes:


2008/12/8 Pierre Russell Straddler pleaseandthankingyou at gmail.com:

the cd ~/Desktop
sudo lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

still didn't work.  I get the error

Can't open lilypond-2.10.33.-1.linux-x86.sh

Those filenames plenty of dashes and dots are almost impossible to
type correctly, please do the following:

- forget 2.10 and download 2.11.65, the latest candidate to stable release.
- when gedit tries to open it, choose save file instead just like
you did before.
- move to where the file is and type
sudo sh lilyp
then press the [TAB] key. This should auto-complete the filename. If
it is not fully auto-completed (maybe because you still have 2.10 in
the directory), it should stop at lilypond-2.1, then just write
another '1' and press TAB again.


excellent.  I believe it worked...  Yaaay!  Thank you.  But because I am new to
linux, I am looking for an icon to double click, and sadly am not finding it.
 I can see it in the /usr/local/bin...it's there with a number of other
obviously lilypond related documents.

does lilypond need to be opened from the terminal (shell?)--and if so, uh, how
do you do that again?

(newbie.)

thank you!

Pierre Russell Straddler



Yes, on Linux you run Lilypond from the command line.  You don't really 
open it, though, you just compile plain text files with it like so:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lilypond filename.ly

(where lilypond is the command and filename.ly is your source file)

To make sure it's installed correctly you can type the following:

lilypond --version

If it's installed properly then you should get a message saying which 
version is installed and that Lilypond is free software, etc.


What you should do next is go carefully through the Tutorial in the 
Learning Manual for version 2.11.65 (even if you're running 2.10.33, use 
the newer documentation as it's much better) here:


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/index

This will get you going quickly enough.  Good luck,

Jon
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Re: French Score only when it actually saves paper?

2008-12-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Silas,


Or maybe just allow the user to switch
empty-staff removal on and off at arbitrary bars.


That's easy enough — check the list archives (or LSR) for keep-alive- 
interfaces, and you'll find the answer.


Hope this helps!
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Re: font switching help

2008-12-08 Thread Trevor Bača
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:32 PM, James E. Bailey 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Am 08.12.2008 um 19:06 schrieb Trevor Bača:

 On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:06 AM, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After much searching, I found it. Fontbook installs user-installed fonts
 to a directory that isn't indexed by fontconfig ~/Library/Fonts. After I
 realised that, I knew to tell fontbook to install my fonts system-wide,
 apparently, osx doesn't use ~/.fonts/ which fontconfig does index.


 Hi James,

 Glad everything worked out. I've had to solve this same problem a couple of
 times under OS X 10.4 myself. The post here ...

   http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-02/msg00087.html

 ... basically says you can copy stuff to ~./fonts to solve the problem. A
 better solution is just sym linking, which Han-Wen points out later in the
 thread.


 Since I already have a solution that works for me, the question is pure
 curiosity, but what's better about sym linking? And is that better than
 telling fontbook to install fonts system-wide, or better than copying fonts
 to ~/.fonts/ or both?


Linking would be better than copying because symbolic links consume (almost)
no space.

Your solution with FontBook may be better than both ... hard for me to
evaluate because I'm kinda in the same position you are:  I have a solution
that works so I've stuck with it.

Trevor.





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