Re: Slur positions limit?
MusFelix wrote Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:53 AM
While adjusting slurs, I have come across cases where the
adjustment doesn't
take. I have played around with all of the slur details settings,
but
nothing has worked. See this example, where the slur should be
much higher,
exaggerated for testing, but is stuck lower:
\version 2.13.51
\include english.ly
\relative c
{
\clef bass
\time 9/8
\stemDown
\once \override Slur #'positions = #'(10 . 10)
c,16( e' c' g' c, e, c, e' c' e c e, c, g' e' c' e, g,)
}
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
A list of possible slur positions is first calculated
based on the positions of the slurred notes. Then the
best one in this list is chosen by adding up a number
of demerit weights. Changing the 'positions property
influences which of these pre-computed slurs is selected,
but it cannot select a position which is not included
in the original list.
However, the range of candidate slurs in the initial
list can be increased by extending the 'region-size
property. If you really want to use positions of
'(10 . 10) you need to increase the 'region-size to
10, like this:
\once \override Slur #'details #'region-size = #10
\once \override Slur #'positions = #'(10 . 10)
c,16( e' c' g' c, e, c, e' c' e c e, c, g' e' c' e, g,)
Alternatively, the precise shape of the slur can be
controlled by specifying the Bezier curve control
points. See Modifying ties and slurs in the Notation
Reference
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
(BTW, I am posting this through Nabble; the last 3 times I sent
this by
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Did you send it from your registered email address?
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Saa ligipääsu mu piltidele ja nii edasi
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LaTeX font as Lyric font in LilyPond?
Hi folks, is it possible to use the LaTeX font Computer Modern SansSerif (selected by \sffamily in LaTeX) as Lyrics font in LilyPond? Probably it is possible, but how (under Debian Linux). I already know the commands to set the font because I already use it under Windows sometimes. I use: #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree Adobe Caslon Pro Adobe Caslon Pro Adobe Caslon Pro (/ myStaffSize 20))) I does not seem to be installed in the system because with lilypond -dshow-available-fonts any I cannot find a font name like Computer Modern. But how to address the LaTeX font under Linux? Thanks Dominic ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LaTeX font as Lyric font in LilyPond?
On 17 April 2011 11:53, Dominic Neumann m...@dominicneumann.de wrote: is it possible to use the LaTeX font Computer Modern SansSerif (selected by \sffamily in LaTeX) as Lyrics font in LilyPond? Probably it is possible, but how (under Debian Linux). I don't believe it's possible to use it as a TeX font. You may be able to get it in some other form (preferably OTF) that LilyPond can recognize. Here's what Google brought up: http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/~panov/cm-unicode/download.html If that doesn't work MetaPost can do it. Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LaTeX font as Lyric font in LilyPond?
Dominic: is it possible to use the LaTeX font Computer Modern SansSerif (selected by \sffamily in LaTeX) as Lyrics font in LilyPond? Perhaps [1] can be of help. They have converted the latex fonts to postscript fonts with metatype [2]. Probably it is possible, but how (under Debian Linux). # apt-get install lmodern And I think they will call the font lmss something: $ grep lmss /var/lib/dpkg/info/lmodern.list | grep lmss | grep pfb /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/public/lm/lmssbx10.pfb ... /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/lmssbx10.pfb ... $ Regards, /Karl Hammar [1] http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern/ [2] ftp://bop.eps.gda.pl/pub/metatype1/ --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beaming problem introduced with 2.13.60
The problem still exists with the \stemUp and \stemDown commands and the
first bar removed:
\version 2.13.60
\language english
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
cs16 a'' a fs fs ef ef c c a fs( d) |
}
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Re: Help with Section Sequence
Hola 2011/4/16 Javier Ruiz-Alma jav...@ruiz-alma.com: - Original Message - From: Javier Ruiz-Alma To: LilyPond User Group Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Help with Section Sequence Hi All, Please check the attached sample PDF and reply if I need to change way these sections should be performed. This will help me build a correct MIDI block and play this as intended. The sequence shown sounds a bit weird to me when I listen to the MIDI and I suspect I'm just not reading this correctly. Thanks, Javier 2011/4/15 Phil Holmes: That's how I would perform it. -- Phil Holmes Hi Phil I may be wrong, but: I don't think the MIDI output includes the repetitions, so the MIDI will just play sec A, sec B, sec C of this example As far as I know, you have to use \repeat unfold to get repetitions in the MIDI. Regards Jakob. Hi Jakob, The command \unfoldRepeats will do this. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Repeats-in-MIDI Attached is the .ly file I created for this snippet. Javier Ooh nice, didn't know that one. And in fact, I think I now understand what your original question was. To notate the performance sequence you describe, the annotation at the end should be D.S. al fine (D.C. means da capo, from the top, while D.S., dal segno, means from the sign) Also, the segno mark shouldn't be printed over the last bar line. Finally, I'm purty sure that the custom is to print the word fine in lowercase italics, and above the system. Hopefully I'm not making a fool of myself here by stating the obvious... Cheers Jakob. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
MAC help
I'm helping a friend install on Mac OS X 10.6.6 but I know nothing about the Mac. I found this in the archive: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-03/msg00246.html Is that the right approach for her? Thank you in advance for any Mac tips, Mike ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: MAC help
Mike, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Mike Blackstock [blackstock.m...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 April 2011 13:12 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: MAC help I'm helping a friend install on Mac OS X 10.6.6 but I know nothing about the Mac. I found this in the archive: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-03/msg00246.html Is that the right approach for her? Thank you in advance for any Mac tips, Mike --- If you simply want to just install and use LP to create musical scores then go here: http://lilypond.org/development.html download and run the latest *.dmg file. That's it. There is also a built in editor, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/macos-x on how to very easily use and create LP files. The 2.12.x code had problems as far as I remember with anything MacOS greater than 10.3 - I maybe wrong but I never could get it to work in 10.5.x - but the latest 2.13.x is fine for 10.5.x upto and including the latest 10.6.7 if you are talking about 'compiling' the source code on a Mac to help with LP development then that is a whole other ball game and the general advice is don't unless you really know what you are doing (for Mac). But if you really want to you should also direct any compiling on a mac to lilypond-de...@gnu.org and make sure you have at least read: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/index With regard to compiling source code. However it seems that your friend just wants to use LP to create beautiful notation, so no compiling is needed just use the download links above and it should be fine. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MAC help
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Lyrics for verses and chorus
Hello,
First, excuse me If I make spelling mistakes, I'm French and my English
isn't very good.
I would like to change the left hand of this score :
http://etincelle.legtux.fr/scan0001.jpg to adapt it for clavier. I did it,
but know, I would like to add the lyrics : only one line for the chorus, and
four for the verses. But I don't know how could I do it. Please, could you
tell me how begin with only one line of lyrics, and finish with four ? For
the moment, I use \skip 1 \skip 1 \skip1 ... but it's not clean...
Thanks a lot.
*The beginning of the score in lilypond is on the bottom of the page.*
In French --
Bonjour,
Je voudrais changer la main droite de cette partition :
http://etincelle.legtux.fr/scan0001.jpg pour l'adapter pour le piano. C'est
ce que j'ai fait, mais maintenant, je voudrais ajouter les paroles :
seulement une ligne pour le refrain, et quatre pour les couplets. Mais je ne
sais pas comment faire ça. S'il vous plait, pourriez vous me dire comment
commencer avec seulement une ligne de paroles et finir avec quatre ? Pour le
moment, j'utilise \skip 1 \skip 1... mais ce n'est pas propre.
Merci d'avance.
- SCORE - PARTITION
\version 2.10.33
\include italiano.ly
\header {
title=Criez de joie, Christ est ressuscité !
% composer=
subtitle = Louange
% poet = Poete
instrument = Piano
% editor = L'éditeur
% meter=\markup {\bold {}}
% style = Jazz, what else
% maintainer = Alexandre Touret
% maintainerEmail = alexandre.tou...@free.fr
% maintainerWeb = http://blog.touret.info;
% lastupdated =
% source = Source
% footer = Footer
% copyright =\markup {\fontsize #-1.5
% Copyright}
}
RELATIVE A MODIFIER + TEMPO+ CLE
upper = \relative do'' {
\clef treble
\key sol \major
\time 4/4
\tempo 4 = 96
sol8 re sol la~la4 sol8 la
si la sol la~la2
do8 do do do4 si la8
sol la si la~la2
sol8 re sol la~la4 sol8 la
si la sol la~la4. sol8
do4 si sol8 sol4 sol8~
sol2. r4
\bar ||
%COUPLETS
fad4 fad8 fad4 fad8 sol fad
sol2. r4
la4 la8 la4 la8 si do
si1
r4 do8 do si4 la
si4 sol8 mi~mi2
sol4. sol8 do4 si
la2. r4
\bar :|
}
lower = \relative sol, {
\clef bass
\key sol \major
\time 4/4
sol sol,4 sol' si re re re, sol si re
sol, sol, sol' si re re re, sol si re
do, do, do mi sol sol sol, do mi sol
la' la, la do mi re, re, re fad la
sol, sol, sol' si re re re, sol si re
sol, sol, sol' si re re re, sol si re
la do mi4 sol si re do, mi sol4. sol' si re8~
sol si re1
%COUPLETS
si si,4 si re fad fad fad, si re fad
mi, mi, mi sol si si si, mi sol si
re re, re fad la la la, re fad la
sol sol, sol si re re re, sol si re
la la, la do mi mi mi, la do mi
mi mi, mi sol si do do, do mi sol
la' la, la do mi fa fa, fa la do
re fad la1
}
%paroles = {
%
%
%
% }
%
%\score {
% \new PianoStaff
%\set PianoStaff.instrumentName = #Piano
%\new Staff = upper \upper
%\addlyrics { Criez de joie christ est ressuscité ! Il est vivant comme
il l'avais promis. }
%
%\new Staff = lower \lower
%
%
%
% \layout { }
% \midi { }
%}
%
%---
text = \lyricmode {
Cri -- ez de joie__ Christ est |
res -- sus -- ci -- té !__ |
Il est vi -- vant comme il |
l'a -- vais pro -- mis.__ |
Al -- lé -- lu -- ia,__ Christ est |
res -- sus -- ci -- té !__ Il |
nous ou -- vre la vie !__ |
}
coupletun = \lyricmode {
%\set stanza = #1.
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
Au mi -- lieu de no -- tre
nuit, __
la lu -- mière a res -- plen -- di.
La vie a dé -- truit
la mort.__
}
coupletdeux = \lyricmode {
%\set stanza = #2.
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
\skip 1
Vous les an -- ges, lou -- ez -- le,
e -- xul -- tez de -- puis les cieux !
Tous les vi -- vants
lou -- ez Dieu !__
}
\score {
\new GrandStaff
\new Staff = upper { \new Voice = singer \upper }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto singer \text
\new Lyrics \lyricsto singer \coupletun
\new Lyrics \lyricsto singer \coupletdeux
\new Staff = lower { \lower }
\layout {
\context {
\GrandStaff
\accepts Lyrics
}
\context {
\Lyrics
\consists Bar_engraver
}
}
\midi { }
}
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RE: MAC help
Hello, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Tim McNamara [tim...@bitstream.net] Sent: 17 April 2011 14:57 To: Mike Blackstock Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user Subject: Re: MAC help On Apr 17, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Mike Blackstock wrote: I'm helping a friend install on Mac OS X 10.6.6 but I know nothing about the Mac. I found this in the archive: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-03/msg00246.html Is that the right approach for her? No. That's not the right approach for almost any user, there is just no reason to compile Lilypond from scratch. Download the precompiled binary and put it in the Applications folder. http://www.lilypond.org/macos-x.html Note that the 10.6.7 OS update from Apple may break Lilypond. There have been several reports of problems after updating to 10.6.7 but I have no idea if the cause or a for-sure ix has been identified. --- Just to clarify that last statement, 10.6.7 didn't 'break' Lilypond inasmuch as it caused some fonts to not display properly - the symptom was apparently the score would 'sometimes' (at least I never had it at all) not show note heads and only show stems, which one could argue breaks LP in displaying PDFs, however...all those people that had this as far as I can tell on the thread, either ran Onyx (which you can download for free - if you don't know what it is use Google but I do recommend it generally for Mac as a useful tool - and ran all the 'clean out/maintenance' scripts - which includes things like rebuilding the font cache and the like, then reboot and all was fine after that. I am not aware that this problem - which was reported on another website to do with OTF type fonts (I think) so was a general than specific to LP - was ever 'resolved' in terms of what the underlying problem is or even the case of those users that had the issue with LP still had the issue after this clean out. However, I myself had no such problems so don't want to put you or your friend off from using LP on a Mac. Indeed I've literally just finished a set of 10 parts for our Local Wind Band with no issues at all. regards James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics for verses and chorus
2011/4/17 tobias bora tobias.b...@gmail.com:
Hello,
First, excuse me If I make spelling mistakes, I'm French and my English
isn't very good.
I would like to change the left hand of this score :
http://etincelle.legtux.fr/scan0001.jpg to adapt it for clavier. I did it,
but know, I would like to add the lyrics : only one line for the chorus, and
four for the verses. But I don't know how could I do it. Please, could you
tell me how begin with only one line of lyrics, and finish with four ? For
the moment, I use \skip 1 \skip 1 \skip1 ... but it's not clean...
This example could illustrate hot to put lyrics to a new voice which
appears in the middle of the music, without using skip at all:
\new Staff {
c'1
\new Voice = verse { d'1 }
c'1
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto verse \lyricmode { Hi }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto verse \lyricmode { Hi }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto verse \lyricmode { Hi }
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www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com
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Re: Lyrics for verses and chorus
tobias bora wrote:
seulement une ligne pour le refrain, et quatre pour les couplets. Mais je
ne
sais pas comment faire ça. S'il vous plait, pourriez vous me dire comment
commencer avec seulement une ligne de paroles et finir avec quatre ? Pour
le
moment, j'utilise \skip 1 \skip 1... mais ce n'est pas propre.
je séparerais le refrain et les lignes de paroles:
upperCouplets = \relative do'' {…}
upperChorus = \relative do'' {…}
et ensuite on peut mettre:
\new GrandStaff
\new Staff = upper {
\new Voice = chorus \upperChorus
\new Voice = couplets \upperCouplets
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto chorus \text
\new Lyrics \lyricsto couplets \coupletun
\new Lyrics \lyricsto couplets \coupletdeux
\new Staff = lower { \lower }
il y a d'ailleurs une liste de lilypond en français!
http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/
http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/
Eluze
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Re: Baroque slash ornament
Here's the solution I came up with. I just copy/pasted the Scheme code
and edited it a little, I don't understand how it works.
Edward
\version 2.12.3
slideNotes = {
\override NoteHead #'stencil = #(ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.15 -0.5 -0.4 2 0.4)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1))
\override Stem #'stencil = ##f }
\new Staff \relative c' {
\key e \minor
\time 3/4
\partial 4
{ \voiceOne g'8. g16 g4}
\new Voice { \voiceTwo b, e4
\stemUp \once \override Slur #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 1)
\appoggiatura b8 \stemDown c e4 }
\new Voice = slides { \slideNotes d fis4 fis }
}
On 4/17/11 12:57 AM, Edward Neeman wrote:
Hello,
I would like to have slashes between notes of a chord (a Baroque
ornament that indicates that the lower neighbor notes should be struck
almost simultaneously in a light arpeggio). I've attached an
example. What would be the best way to do this?
Thanks,
Edward
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RE: Odd Stem Lengths
Found my problem...it was a code error. I forgot to close a beam at the section prior to where I had my odd stem lengths. I did download v2.12.3 on my spare computer however, so I can start to experiment with what I have to do to convert to a newer LP release. Thanks for the help and patience! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Any LilyPond users on OpenBSD?
Hi, if anyone of you is using LilyPond on OpenBSD and is also willing to test unstable LilyPond releases in the future (i.e. after 2.14 had been released), please let me know. If there are enough users (say, more than 1), I'll consider maintaining two versions of official LilyPond packages for OpenBSD (stable and unstable), because the more testers, the better. Ciao, Kili ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd Stem Lengths
On 11-04-17 09:17 AM, Ed Ardzinski wrote: Found my problem...it was a code error. I forgot to close a beam at the section prior to where I had my odd stem lengths. I did download v2.12.3 on my spare computer however, so I can start to experiment with what I have to do to convert to a newer LP release. Thanks for the help and patience! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Thanks for reporting back, Ed! It's always good to hear that a problem is solved. Colin Bug Squad -- The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much, it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. -Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Preventing tempo marks stacking
Thank you, Xavier, for your suggestion. I had wondered if there was a solution which I could apply more generally, but it seems that I will have to deal with each case separately, guessing what limit to apply to the length of a MultiMeasureRest. This still doesn't deal with cases where there are no multi-bar rests. But in my experience, the only places where that happens, and there is still the risk that tempo marks might stack, come with something like rit a tempo where the rit lasts no longer than about 2 bars. I can solve that, by engraving those marks as a TextSpanner rather than as tempo indications. Richard From: x.sche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:57:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Preventing tempo marks stacking To: richardsa...@hotmail.co.uk CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org [snip] You are right. Snippet #659 is a workaround that works in some case but your example shows it fails with notes. IMHO this feature (expand the whole measure, not only between two notes) could (should) be implemented. A workaround in this case could be to increase the length of the rests measures. \override Staff.MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #24 Result is better with non-church rests: \override Staff.MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = #1 but that does not solve the feature request. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyric-hyphen-break - How disable it?
Hello everyone! Reading the regression test, I see that Lilypond includes a function called 'lyric-hyphen-break.ly'. It is used to print hyphens at the beginning of the line only when they go past the first note. In some languages, as in Italian, it's preferable to print hyphens at the beginning of the line on the first note too. How can I disable this feature? Thank you in advance, Luca Rossetto Casel -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Solo al Family Hotel Cesenatico bimbo gratis fino 8 anni, tutto incluso, con bevande a volonta' tutto il giorno in spiaggia e in hotel, ombrellone e lettini Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11400d=17-4 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Self-Publishing
Thanks to all for your generous feedback! I think I've been, though old enough to know better, pretty naive about this. I've never realistically intended to make -- to try making -- money with my music, or even to print it en masse. So, what am I doing trying to be a print shop? Why not simply take my LilyPond-output PDF files (publication-ready, after all) *to* a print-shop?! Reckon I needed your good sense for a nudge. Thanks again. Pete Éditions IN NOMINE wrote: Hi. I'd like to give you my testymony as a publisher : if you want to publish and sell as a professional, I have to say that printing is a REAL job. I mean it takes time, and you won't have a proper score at the end without professional printers (machine AND guys). I made this choice a year ago : I've found a printer next to me (a musician !) and I must admit I spend a lot of time with him to get the best final product before printing the whole stock. With a final cost below Lulu Co ! (I can make as many tests as I want before production, and that saves me many times !) Another thing : try to calculate the time you will spend to print your score on the base of N buyers. You'll spend a LOT of time for this and it will not be, sadly, of the same quality of a professional printer. Well, I mean, don't hink that working with a pro will be so much money ! Best regards. JMarc Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Laura Conrad lcon...@laymusic.org wrote: Pete == PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu writes: Pete The upshot -- well, so far -- is that *if* I buy the printer, Pete it will be a refurbished HP LaserJet 5000. Am sniffing out Pete reputable vendors. I would recommend against this. I did that, after the kind of exploration you did, and if you can pick it up on the third floor in Cambridge, MA, USA, you can have it free. I don't think the duplexer ever worked more than a month at a time, and currently the fuser is broken as well. You can buy a duplexing laser printer for less than the cost of a service call for the HP. Most printers have a status page that will print the number of pages printed. Look for a printer that has a very low number there, a couple of thousand maybe. Many offices have a printer that sits around doing nothing all day. That is the one you want to buy second hand. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Slur positions limit?
I have fiddled around with the settings some more and achieved better
results, but the slurs still needed manual adjusting. Is there some way to
make lilypond slurs more arched at the ends and flatter in the middle? The
default slur shape is very slowly graded, like an arc cut from a large
circle, which is fine in most cases; but sometimes you need much tighter
ends. I haven't found the combination of #details settings that allows for
this. Perhaps there isn't one.
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To: MusFelix musfe...@live.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Slur positions limit?
MusFelix wrote Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:53 AM
While adjusting slurs, I have come across cases where the adjustment
doesn't
take. I have played around with all of the slur details settings, but
nothing has worked. See this example, where the slur should be much
higher,
exaggerated for testing, but is stuck lower:
\version 2.13.51
\include english.ly
\relative c
{
\clef bass
\time 9/8
\stemDown
\once \override Slur #'positions = #'(10 . 10)
c,16( e' c' g' c, e, c, e' c' e c e, c, g' e' c' e, g,)
}
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
A list of possible slur positions is first calculated
based on the positions of the slurred notes. Then the
best one in this list is chosen by adding up a number
of demerit weights. Changing the 'positions property
influences which of these pre-computed slurs is selected,
but it cannot select a position which is not included
in the original list.
However, the range of candidate slurs in the initial
list can be increased by extending the 'region-size
property. If you really want to use positions of
'(10 . 10) you need to increase the 'region-size to
10, like this:
\once \override Slur #'details #'region-size = #10
\once \override Slur #'positions = #'(10 . 10)
c,16( e' c' g' c, e, c, e' c' e c e, c, g' e' c' e, g,)
Alternatively, the precise shape of the slur can be
controlled by specifying the Bezier curve control
points. See Modifying ties and slurs in the Notation
Reference
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
(BTW, I am posting this through Nabble; the last 3 times I sent this by
email, it hasn't shown up. Anyone know why???)
Did you send it from your registered email address?
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title spacing
Hi,
I'm a user that mainly throws together what he needs, there are probably some
obvious gaps in my knowledge, so apologies if this is too obvious...
My goal is simply to control the distance between a system and the title of the
next score block. In the score I'm working on, the space is just too small,
almost colliding with the last bit of the previous score block.
I'm willing to use piece instead of title, but in that case I'd love to learn
how I can center-align it, since also that doesn't seem to work...
Any help very much appreciated.
laurens.
somenotes = { \relative{ c' c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c
c } }
\paper{
before-title-space = 10\cm
%% how to use this? every other combination
%% I try also doesn't work:
%% ...before-title-spacing...
%% ...#'((padding . 7))...
%% ...and more things that google yields...
print-all-headers = ##t
}
\book{
\header{
title = TITLE
}
\score{
\new Staff{
\somenotes
}
\header{
title = piece title
}
}
\score{
\new Staff{
\somenotes
}
\header{
title = piece title 2
}
}
}
\version 2.13.56
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Artificial-looking clef in a CueVoice?
Hi there! I remember a discussion where Reinhold asked how should a clef looks like in a CueVoice (I cannot find this again). IIRC the conclusion was something like: the clef should look voluntarily artificial, i.e. smaller but _after_ the bar line (and not _before_). I'd like to have such artificial-looking clef in a CueVoice. Unfortunately I am not able to get it using the \clef command in a CueVoice . Ideas how I could achieve this (clef _after_ the bar line)? Please note that for various reasons I use a CueVoice and _not_ \cueDuring . Thanks in advance. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Slur positions limit?
Mus Felix wrote Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:25 PM
I have fiddled around with the settings some more and achieved
better results, but the slurs still needed manual adjusting. Is
there some way to make lilypond slurs more arched at the ends and
flatter in the middle?
Yes. It's the alternative I mentioned at the end of
my previous reply - specifying the Bezier curve control
points. See the reference I gave in the Notation Manual
for details. You'll need to move control points 2 and 3
closer to their respective ends. It's pretty fiddly to
do, though.
Trevor
(And yes, this email is registered.)
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To: MusFelix musfe...@live.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Slur positions limit?
MusFelix wrote Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:53 AM
While adjusting slurs, I have come across cases where the
adjustment doesn't
take. I have played around with all of the slur details
settings, but
nothing has worked. See this example, where the slur should be
much higher,
exaggerated for testing, but is stuck lower:
\version 2.13.51
\include english.ly
\relative c
{
\clef bass
\time 9/8
\stemDown
\once \override Slur #'positions = #'(10 . 10)
c,16( e' c' g' c, e, c, e' c' e c e, c, g' e' c' e, g,)
}
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
A list of possible slur positions is first calculated
based on the positions of the slurred notes. Then the
best one in this list is chosen by adding up a number
of demerit weights. Changing the 'positions property
influences which of these pre-computed slurs is selected,
but it cannot select a position which is not included
in the original list.
However, the range of candidate slurs in the initial
list can be increased by extending the 'region-size
property. If you really want to use positions of
'(10 . 10) you need to increase the 'region-size to
10, like this:
\once \override Slur #'details #'region-size = #10
\once \override Slur #'positions = #'(10 . 10)
c,16( e' c' g' c, e, c, e' c' e c e, c, g' e' c' e, g,)
Alternatively, the precise shape of the slur can be
controlled by specifying the Bezier curve control
points. See Modifying ties and slurs in the Notation
Reference
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
(BTW, I am posting this through Nabble; the last 3 times I sent
this by
email, it hasn't shown up. Anyone know why???)
Did you send it from your registered email address?
Trevor
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Override Stem #'length-fraction does not shorten stem of ledger notes
Hi,
Not sure it is a bug but still cc: to bug-lilypond (see reason below).
Basically if a user could give me a clue how to disable the fact that
when a note is far from the staff, its stem goes to the middle line of
the staff, I would be grateful. :)
%% (Bug report)
%%
%% Shortening Stem #'length-fraction does not shorten stems for notes
%% far from the middle of the staff (notes with ledger lines)
%%
%% I know this behaviour is intentional in the case of normal stems
%% but I find it quite odd when we want stems to be shorter (since
%% overriding Stem #'length-fraction would change actually nothing
%% for notes with ledger lines).
%%
%% At least it would be great to have a propertie that could be
%% overridden to disable this behaviour (if this override exists please
%% forgive me, I did not find it)
%%
\version 2.13.60
\score {
\new Staff {
\relative e {
\override Stem #'length-fraction = #(magstep -4)
e4 f g a
b c d e
f g a b
c d e f
g a b c
d e f g
}
}
}
Cheers,
Xavier
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Re: title spacing
On 17 April 2011 23:04, Laurens van der Wee l.vander...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm a user that mainly throws together what he needs, there are
probably some obvious gaps in my knowledge, so apologies if this is
too obvious...
My goal is simply to control the distance between a system and the
title of the next score block. In the score I'm working on, the space
is just too small, almost colliding with the last bit of the previous
score block.
I'm willing to use piece instead of title, but in that case I'd love
to learn how I can center-align it, since also that doesn't seem to work...
Any help very much appreciated.
Since you are using a development version (I see 2.13.56) I suggest
you to upgrade to latest development version and to consult the version
of the doc corresponding to this development version (now 2.13.60).
A dozen weeks ago (between 2.13.sth and 2.13.sth+1) the syntax changed
from before-title-space to markup-system-spacing.
The value of this variable looks like
\paper {
markup-system-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 10) (padding . 1) (stretchability . 30))
}
To understand this, see (doc v2.13.60)
NR 4.1.4 Flexible vertical spacing \paper variables
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-_005cpaper-variables.html
Cheers,
Xavier
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RE: Subject: Any LilyPond users on OpenBSD?
Hi Matthew, I don't know how close they are, but I am using PC-BSD. Currently I am running 2.13.26 with no problems for what I need it for. Blessings, Gordon+ -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: title spacing
On 4/17/11 3:56 PM, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 April 2011 23:04, Laurens van der Wee l.vander...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm a user that mainly throws together what he needs, there are
probably some obvious gaps in my knowledge, so apologies if this is
too obvious...
My goal is simply to control the distance between a system and the
title of the next score block. In the score I'm working on, the space
is just too small, almost colliding with the last bit of the previous
score block.
I'm willing to use piece instead of title, but in that case I'd love
to learn how I can center-align it, since also that doesn't seem to work...
Any help very much appreciated.
Since you are using a development version (I see 2.13.56) I suggest
you to upgrade to latest development version and to consult the version
of the doc corresponding to this development version (now 2.13.60).
A dozen weeks ago (between 2.13.sth and 2.13.sth+1) the syntax changed
from before-title-space to markup-system-spacing.
The value of this variable looks like
\paper {
markup-system-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 10) (padding . 1) (stretchability . 30))
}
To understand this, see (doc v2.13.60)
NR 4.1.4 Flexible vertical spacing \paper variables
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing
-_005cpaper-variables.html
I agree with everything Xavier has said, except the paper variable used to
control the spacing between a system and the title of the next score is
score-markup-spacing.
HTH,
Carl
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Re: MAC help
Thx guys. Anna, could you try the pre-compiled binary at http://www.lilypond.org/macos-x.html? Sorry for not making it clear that you don't have to compile from scratch - pre-compiled binaries exist for all major platforms. If you want to kill me, I deserve it. M. On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:46 AM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.comwrote: Hello, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org[lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe= datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Tim McNamara [tim...@bitstream.net] Sent: 17 April 2011 14:57 To: Mike Blackstock Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user Subject: Re: MAC help On Apr 17, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Mike Blackstock wrote: I'm helping a friend install on Mac OS X 10.6.6 but I know nothing about the Mac. I found this in the archive: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-03/msg00246.html Is that the right approach for her? No. That's not the right approach for almost any user, there is just no reason to compile Lilypond from scratch. Download the precompiled binary and put it in the Applications folder. http://www.lilypond.org/macos-x.html Note that the 10.6.7 OS update from Apple may break Lilypond. There have been several reports of problems after updating to 10.6.7 but I have no idea if the cause or a for-sure ix has been identified. --- Just to clarify that last statement, 10.6.7 didn't 'break' Lilypond inasmuch as it caused some fonts to not display properly - the symptom was apparently the score would 'sometimes' (at least I never had it at all) not show note heads and only show stems, which one could argue breaks LP in displaying PDFs, however...all those people that had this as far as I can tell on the thread, either ran Onyx (which you can download for free - if you don't know what it is use Google but I do recommend it generally for Mac as a useful tool - and ran all the 'clean out/maintenance' scripts - which includes things like rebuilding the font cache and the like, then reboot and all was fine after that. I am not aware that this problem - which was reported on another website to do with OTF type fonts (I think) so was a general than specific to LP - was ever 'resolved' in terms of what the underlying problem is or even the case of those users that had the issue with LP still had the issue after this clean out. However, I myself had no such problems so don't want to put you or your friend off from using LP on a Mac. Indeed I've literally just finished a set of 10 parts for our Local Wind Band with no issues at all. regards James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Override Stem #'length-fraction does not shorten stem of ledger notes
On 11-04-17 03:46 PM, Xavier Scheuer wrote:
Hi,
Not sure it is a bug but still cc: to bug-lilypond (see reason below).
Basically if a user could give me a clue how to disable the fact that
when a note is far from the staff, its stem goes to the middle line of
the staff, I would be grateful. :)
%% (Bug report)
%%
%% Shortening Stem #'length-fraction does not shorten stems for notes
%% far from the middle of the staff (notes with ledger lines)
%%
%% I know this behaviour is intentional in the case of normal stems
%% but I find it quite odd when we want stems to be shorter (since
%% overriding Stem #'length-fraction would change actually nothing
%% for notes with ledger lines).
%%
%% At least it would be great to have a propertie that could be
%% overridden to disable this behaviour (if this override exists please
%% forgive me, I did not find it)
%%
\version 2.13.60
\score {
\new Staff {
\relative e {
\override Stem #'length-fraction = #(magstep -4)
e4 f g a
b c d e
f g a b
c d e f
g a b c
d e f g
}
}
}
Cheers,
Xavier
Thanks for this, Xavier! Added as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1623
Colin Campbell
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Multiple Stanzas in the middle of a piece
I now know how to do multiple stanzas with a single common section, but I
need the reverse essentially--Single common sections for most of the music,
but 3 stanzas near the middle of the piece. Attached is the source code as
it is now without any changes. I tried making changes, but ended up using
several hours and acheived nothing. Thanks for any help you may provide.
Actually, I do have the 3 stanzas here, but not in the proper place. They
should be after the \divisioMinima in the secnd section of notes.
--
In Christ,
Michael D
\version 2.12.3
\include english.ly
\include gregorian.ly
% XS: necessary, see below
\paper{
page-count = #1
}
\header {
title = Eisodikon~Come, let us Worship
poet = Znamenny Chant~Tone 2
composer = Arranged by Michael Dykes
footer = obs_zn[3].ly
ponomarname = Only-Begotten Son
ponomartype = OwnWork
ponomarsubtype = Arrangement
ponomarsource = Unknown
ponomarauthor = Michael Dykes
maintainer = Michael Dykes
maintaineremail = thedoctor81...@gmail.com
lastupdated = 2011/04/10
ponomarlang = en
ponomarcomments =
copyright = This score is part of the Ponomar OpenMusic Project
tagline = \markup {
\override #'(box-padding . 1.0) \override #'(baseline-skip . 2.7)
\box \center-column {
\line { \with-url #http://www.ponomar.net; \line { www. \hspace #-1.0 ponomar \hspace #-1.0 .net \hspace #0.5 } • Orthodox Liturgical music that is \italic free to download, use, modify and distribute. }
\line { Typeset using \with-url #http://www.LilyPond.org; \line { LilyPond } by \maintainer \hspace #-1.0 . \hspace #0.5 Copyright © 2011. \hspace #0.5 Reference: \footer }
\line { \teeny \line { Licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 (Unported) License, for details see: \hspace #-0.5 \with-url #http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0; http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0 } }
}
}
}
% #(set-global-staff-size 22)
global = {
\key f \major
\revert Score.SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing
% \override Staff.NoteHead #'style = #'altdefault
% \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
% \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = ##f
}
move = { \bar \break }
soprano = \relative c'' {
\global
% Music follows here.
g4 g2 g8(f) g(a) bf4 bf \divisioMinima
bf4 a8(bf) c4(bf a) g8 a bf4(a g1) \divisioMaior
g4 bf a bf \divisioMinima
bf4^\markup {\bold *}
bf c2 c4 bf a g2(f) \divisioMinima
bf2 bf8(a) g4 bf2 a4 g1 \divisioMaior
g4 a bf bf bf \divisioMinima
bf4 bf c c c \divisioMinima
c8(bf a bf) c4 bf2(a4 bf8 a g4) a g\breve \finalis
}
tenor = \relative c' {
\global
% Music follows here.
}
bass = \relative c {
\global
% Music follows here.
}
\score {
\new ChoirStaff
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = voice oohs
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { S }
shortInstrumentName = \markup \center-column { S }
}
\new Voice = soprano {\voiceOne \soprano }
\relative c'' {
g4 g2 g8(f) g(a) bf4 bf \divisioMinima
bf4 a8(bf) c4(bf a) g8 a bf4(a g1) \divisioMaior
g4 bf a bf \divisioMinima
\set melismaBusyProperties = #'()
bf4^\markup {\bold *}
bf c2 c4 bf a g2(f) \divisioMinima
\unset melismaBusyProperties
bf2 bf8(a) g4 bf2 a4 g1 \divisioMaior
g4 a bf bf bf \divisioMinima
bf4 bf c c c \divisioMinima
c8(bf a bf) c4 bf2(a4 bf8 a g4) a g\breve \finalis
}
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = voice oohs
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { T B }
shortInstrumentName = \markup \center-column { T B }
}
\clef bass
\new Voice = tenor { \voiceOne \tenor }
\relative c' {
g4 g2 g8(f) g(a) bf4 bf \divisioMinima
bf4 a8(bf) c4(bf a) g8 a bf4(a g1) \divisioMaior
bf4 d c d \divisioMinima
\set melismaBusyProperties = #'()
d4 d ef2 ef4 d c c2(a) \divisioMinima
\unset melismaBusyProperties
d2 d8(c) bf4 d2 c4 bf1 \divisioMaior
bf4 c d d d \divisioMinima
d4 d ef ef ef \divisioMinima
ef8(d c d) ef4 d2(c4 d8 c d4) c4 bf\breve \finalis
}
\new Voice = bass { \voiceTwo \bass }
\relative c {
g'4 g2 g8(f) g(a) bf4 bf \divisioMinima
bf4 a8(bf) c4(bf a) g8 a bf4(a g1) \divisioMaior
g4 g g g\divisioMinima
\set melismaBusyProperties = #'()
g4 g f2 f4 f f c2(d) \divisioMinima
\unset melismaBusyProperties
g2 g4 g d2 f4 g1 \divisioMaior
g4 g g g g \divisioMinima
g4 g f f f \divisioMinima
f2 f4 g2 d1 g g,\breve \finalis
}
\new Lyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing
#'minimum-distance = #6
} \lyricsto soprano {
O come, let __ us __ wor -- ship,
and fall __ down __ be -- fore Christ; __
O Son of God,
Who art ri -- sen from the dead, __
Save us __ who sing to Thee:
Al -- le -- lu -- i -- a,
Al -- le -- lu -- i -- a,
Al __ le -- lu __ i -- a!
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto soprano {
Who art won -- drous in
Re: title spacing
On 18/04/11 09:28, Carl Sorensen wrote:
On 4/17/11 3:56 PM, Xavier Scheuerx.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 April 2011 23:04, Laurens van der Weel.vander...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm a user that mainly throws together what he needs, there are
probably some obvious gaps in my knowledge, so apologies if this is
too obvious...
My goal is simply to control the distance between a system and the
title of the next score block. In the score I'm working on, the space
is just too small, almost colliding with the last bit of the previous
score block.
I'm willing to use piece instead of title, but in that case I'd love
to learn how I can center-align it, since also that doesn't seem to work...
Any help very much appreciated.
Since you are using a development version (I see 2.13.56) I suggest
you to upgrade to latest development version and to consult the version
of the doc corresponding to this development version (now 2.13.60).
A dozen weeks ago (between 2.13.sth and 2.13.sth+1) the syntax changed
from before-title-space to markup-system-spacing.
The value of this variable looks like
\paper {
markup-system-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 10) (padding . 1) (stretchability . 30))
}
To understand this, see (doc v2.13.60)
NR 4.1.4 Flexible vertical spacing \paper variables
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing
-_005cpaper-variables.html
I agree with everything Xavier has said, except the paper variable used to
control the spacing between a system and the title of the next score is
score-markup-spacing.
Or if you only need to change one of the values, you can use the simpler
syntax
score-markup-spacing #'basic-distance = #12
or whatever value you want for the spacing.
Nick
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