Re: Cheat Sheet
Am 09.11.2011 17:31, schrieb David Kastrup: "Trevor Daniels" writes: David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM The octave of notes may also be checked with the `\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command. `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in absolute mode. This checks that the interval between the previous note and the `CONTROLPITCH' is within a fourth (i.e., the normal calculation of relative mode). This is a popular misconception, but it is wrong, as you can see by introducing various accidentals. I was merely quoting the manual, so if you have something to complain, do it there. "within a fourth" is equivalent to a distance of "three staff spaces or less". Lilypond doesn't take accidentals into account (which is of course a good thing). c fis is a fourth c fis, is a fifth ces fis is a fourth - so it will be the fis above the ces although it sounds like a fifth. So I think the quoted sentences are correct. The "popular misconception" is that only an unaltered fourth counts as a fourth. You may think of suggesting a documentation enhancement to make this more clear, but I don't really think it is necessary. HTH Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cheat Sheet
2011/11/8 Tim Roberts :
> Is there a simple mnemonic aid that can help me remember which part of a
> given token is the one that carries forward? Individual notes are easy.
> Within a chord is easy. I believe that the first note of a chord then
> carries forward to the next token. But in polyphony (with << >>), is it the
> last note that carries forward out of the polyphony? Does the second part
> of a polyphonic set pick up from the end of the first part?
This shows it:
\score {
\relative f {
<<
{ c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c }
{ e f g a b c d e f g a b c d e }
>>
}
}
%%%
'e' in second expression is relative to last 'c' in first expression.
But if you always use music from variables and no polyphony inside
them, there is no doubt you control all relativeness:
musicOne = \relative f { c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c }
musicTwo = \relative f { e f g a b c d e f g a b c d e }
\score {
\relative f {
<<
\musicOne
\musicTwo
>>
}
}
%%%
This way you do not mix relative mode and polyphony.
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Re: Cheat Sheet
2011/11/10 Francisco Vila :
> musicOne = \relative f { c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c }
> musicTwo = \relative f { e f g a b c d e f g a b c d e }
>
> \score {
> \relative f {
> <<
> \musicOne
> \musicTwo
> >>
> }
>
> }
>
>
> %%%
>
> This way you do not mix relative mode and polyphony.
Ooops, sorry this way you actuall mix. I meant
musicOne = \relative f { c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c }
musicTwo = \relative f { e f g a b c d e f g a b c d e }
\score {
<<
\musicOne
\musicTwo
>>
}
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Re: Cheat Sheet
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:30:15AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 09.11.2011 17:31, schrieb David Kastrup: > >"Trevor Daniels" writes: > > > >>This is a popular misconception, but it is wrong, as > >>you can see by introducing various accidentals. > >I was merely quoting the manual, so if you have something to complain, > >do it there. > > > "within a fourth" is equivalent to a distance of "three staff spaces > or less". Lilypond doesn't take accidentals into account (which is > of course a good thing). Yes. A doubly-augmented fourth is in the same octave, whereas a doubly-diminished fifth is in a different octave. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
staff-staff-spacing override warning
According to [1], I was trying to modify the minimum distance between one staff
and staff below using:
\new Staff
\with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-staff-spacing #'minimum-distance = #10
}
But this produced a "warning: type check for `staff-staff-spacing' failed;
value `((minimum-distance . 10) . #)' must be of type `list'" --
and the spacing overripe takes no effect.
I do get the expected result using the alternate syntax (to replace all of the
staff-staff-spacing properties):
\with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-staff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 10)
(minimum-distance . 12)
(padding . 1)
(stretchability . 10))
}
Is the single-property syntax no longer supported in 2.14.2? Just curious
because I copied this:
\new Staff \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing
#'basic-distance = #10
} { … }
... from the reference page, removed "default-" and changed basic-distance to
minimum-distance, no other changes, and it failed.
James
[1]
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems
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Re: Transcription service?
Great! I need them done by 12/31, but would like to get them as they are completed. There is no copyright involved; Don Giovanni is public domain, and I'm only using these files for my own personal rehearsal, anyway. Please let me know how to reach you so that we can discuss rates, and so I can send you some files on Dropbox. Are you able to accept payment via PayPal? I have scanned copies of the vocal score, and I have completed the first three recitatives, so you can have some examples. Best, - Eugene ymingt wrote: > > I am interested. Please provide additional info and the deadline you want > it transcribed. Is there any copyright involved? > ming. > > > > emw wrote: >> >> Apologies if commercial requests are not allowed in the forums-- >> >> I'm looking for someone who can transcribe some recitatives from Don >> Giovanni into Lilypond format. I can pay via Paypal. >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Eugene >> > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Transcription-service--tp32784926p32802808.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Call for help
Carl Sorensen byu.edu> writes: > > So, since you're not an experienced developer, how can you help? By > taking over bug-squad duties. We currently have a couple of bug-squadders > who are also developers. If we could relieve them of their bug-squad > responsibilities, it would make time for them to work on their other > development projects. > > Being a bug squad member requires *no* development expertise with > LilyPond. You simply need to be able to use LilyPond, a web browser, and > email. And it only requires 20 minutes per day. You can volunteer for > one or two days per week, so the total time per week is less than an hour. > If you're interested in volunteering to help keep LilyPond moving forward, > please send an email to the Bug Meister, Phil Holmes, who is copied on > this email. i'll give it a try - think one or two days a week would fit! unfortunately my laptop had its last day last night and i'll have to find a solution (which might take a few days) btw, i couldn't find the mail address of Phil! Eluze ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Whole Measure Rests
I am a little confused by capital R rests. There are two aspects that
confuse me. First, I don't understand why whole-measure small-r rests
are not centered in the measure. Compare:
{ \time 4/4 r1 r1 r1 }
{ \time 4/4 R1 R1 R1 }
As a life-long pianist, I'm used to whole measure rests being centered.
Is there a reference that suggests they should be left-aligned?
Second, in instrumental music, I have the need to attach some notation
to a whole rest (for example, a fermata), or a note like "Cadenza". I
can't attach a fermata to an R1, and it looks bad to have a fermata on
an uncentered rest.
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Re: Call for help
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > Dear LilyPond user community, > > The LilyPond development team is somewhat stressed right now, due to a > variety of issues (seems like it's a different one for each developer). > We *really* need to increase the size of the development pool. But we > aren't ready right now to mentor inexperienced developers. > > So, since you're not an experienced developer, how can you help? By > taking over bug-squad duties. We currently have a couple of bug-squadders > who are also developers. If we could relieve them of their bug-squad > responsibilities, it would make time for them to work on their other > development projects. > > Being a bug squad member requires *no* development expertise with > LilyPond. You simply need to be able to use LilyPond, a web browser, and > email. And it only requires 20 minutes per day. You can volunteer for > one or two days per week, so the total time per week is less than an hour. > > To learn more, please look at Chapter 8 of the Contributor's Guide for > version 2.15. > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/introduction-to-iss > ues > > > If you're interested in volunteering to help keep LilyPond moving forward, > please send an email to the Bug Meister, Phil Holmes, who is copied on > this email. > > Thanks in advance for your willingness to help with this! > > Carl Sorensen > > > Hi Carl, Phil, et al. - We're reasonably settled in our new home, so I'm ready to take a shot at rejoining the Bug Squad. What do you need me to do, Phil? Pondly, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Whole Measure Rests
On 11/10/2011 6:19 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
I am a little confused by capital R rests. There are two aspects that
confuse me. First, I don't understand why whole-measure small-r rests
are not centered in the measure. Compare:
{ \time 4/4 r1 r1 r1 }
{ \time 4/4 R1 R1 R1 }
As a life-long pianist, I'm used to whole measure rests being
centered. Is there a reference that suggests they should be left-aligned?
Second, in instrumental music, I have the need to attach some notation
to a whole rest (for example, a fermata), or a note like "Cadenza". I
can't attach a fermata to an R1, and it looks bad to have a fermata on
an uncentered rest.
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The syntax 'r1' is *not* a "whole measure rest." It is as whole *note*
rest. The 'Rn' syntax (where n = a note value, possibly with a
multiplier like 'R1*3') produces centered *whole measure rests*. In 3/8
if you enter R4. you'll get a whole measure rest which looks exactly
like a whole note rest.
For markup on R rests search the docs for multiMeasureRestMarkup (I think).
-David
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Re: Call for help
- Original Message - From: "Eluze" To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Call for help Carl Sorensen byu.edu> writes: So, since you're not an experienced developer, how can you help? By taking over bug-squad duties. We currently have a couple of bug-squadders who are also developers. If we could relieve them of their bug-squad responsibilities, it would make time for them to work on their other development projects. Being a bug squad member requires *no* development expertise with LilyPond. You simply need to be able to use LilyPond, a web browser, and email. And it only requires 20 minutes per day. You can volunteer for one or two days per week, so the total time per week is less than an hour. If you're interested in volunteering to help keep LilyPond moving forward, please send an email to the Bug Meister, Phil Holmes, who is copied on this email. i'll give it a try - think one or two days a week would fit! unfortunately my laptop had its last day last night and i'll have to find a solution (which might take a few days) btw, i couldn't find the mail address of Phil! Eluze I do pop up here. Have you read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/issues ? Which days could you be available, to let me work out a schedule for us all? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Call for help
The stuff at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/issues :-) What days are you free enough to be put on the schedule? -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Ralph Palmer To: Carl Sorensen ; Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Call for help On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: Dear LilyPond user community, The LilyPond development team is somewhat stressed right now, due to a variety of issues (seems like it's a different one for each developer). We *really* need to increase the size of the development pool. But we aren't ready right now to mentor inexperienced developers. So, since you're not an experienced developer, how can you help? By taking over bug-squad duties. We currently have a couple of bug-squadders who are also developers. If we could relieve them of their bug-squad responsibilities, it would make time for them to work on their other development projects. Being a bug squad member requires *no* development expertise with LilyPond. You simply need to be able to use LilyPond, a web browser, and email. And it only requires 20 minutes per day. You can volunteer for one or two days per week, so the total time per week is less than an hour. To learn more, please look at Chapter 8 of the Contributor's Guide for version 2.15. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/introduction-to-iss ues If you're interested in volunteering to help keep LilyPond moving forward, please send an email to the Bug Meister, Phil Holmes, who is copied on this email. Thanks in advance for your willingness to help with this! Carl Sorensen Hi Carl, Phil, et al. - We're reasonably settled in our new home, so I'm ready to take a shot at rejoining the Bug Squad. What do you need me to do, Phil? Pondly, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Whole Measure Rests
David Bobroff wrote: On 11/10/2011 6:19 PM, Tim Roberts wrote: I am a little confused by capital R rests. The syntax 'r1' is *not* a "whole measure rest." It is as whole *note* rest. True. I suppose I am expecting the renderer to see that the rest is measure-aligned and occupies the entire measure, and then treat it differently. Success with LilyPond is all about getting the right mental models. Mine are clearly not fully formed yet. For markup on R rests search the docs for multiMeasureRestMarkup (I think). Thanks for that pointer -- I missed that, and it does solve a problem for me. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza& Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Call for help
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > ** > The stuff at > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/issues :-) > > What days are you free enough to be put on the schedule? > > -- > Phil Holmes > > I haven't read all the contributor/issues documentation yet, so I don't know what the "daily" time commitment is. I can relatively easily do 20 minutes on each of two days, if that's reasonable. No particular day(s) ; do you have particular days that you don't currently have covered (or would like to release)? Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Call for help
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 01:50:24PM -0500, Ralph Palmer wrote: >I haven't read all the contributor/issues documentation yet, so I don't >know what the "daily" time commitment is. 20 minutes. Absolutely no more. I highly encourage the use of a kitchen timer. (sure, you could use a computer program instead, but I find that a physical kitchen timer is easier to use) > I can relatively easily do 20 minutes on each of two days, if > that's reasonable. that sounds perfect. You can count time spent reading the contributor's guide as part of your 20 minutes. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Call for help
Ralph, On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Ralph Palmer wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: >> >> The stuff at >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/issues :-) >> >> What days are you free enough to be put on the schedule? If you could do my shifts - I am standing in for someone, my shift days are Monday and Thursdays. I'm happy to keep one if you cannot do both. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Search for notes
Hello, exceuse me for abusing the mailing list for this question. I am looking for notes of a piece of the composer Wilhelm Posse (1852-1925), "5 kleine Charakterstücke". I searched WIMA, Mutopia and IMSLP for the notes but wasn't successful. Can you recommend other sources of notes? I would even like poor facsimilies of scans that I could rewrite in Lilypond. Thanks, Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Call for help
If you could do my shifts - I am standing in for someone, my shift > days are Monday and Thursdays. I'm happy to keep one if you cannot do > both. > > -- > -- > James > Okay, unless I hear otherwise, I'll pick up Mondays and Thursdays, 20 minutes each. Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Search for notes
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Helge Kruse wrote: > ** > Hello, > > exceuse me for abusing the mailing list for this question. I am looking > for notes of a piece of the composer Wilhelm Posse (1852-1925), "5 kleine > Charakterstücke". I searched WIMA, Mutopia and IMSLP for the notes but > wasn't successful. Can you recommend other sources of notes? I would even > like poor facsimilies of scans that I could rewrite in Lilypond. > > Thanks, > Helge > > Greetings, Helge - Are you in the United States? If so, you may be able to take advantage of interlibrary loan (ILL). I found the score by looking in WorldCat ( http://www.worldcat.org/). BYU has a copy. If you're in Europe, there may be similar organizations and/ or services. If you haven't already, you might ask at your local library. Most public libraries and higher education libraries seem to do interlibrary loan here in the U.S. Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Call for help
Phil Holmes-2 wrote: > > > > I do pop up here. > ??? > Have you read > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/issues ? > yes i have > Which days could you be available, to let me work out a schedule for us > all? > it does not really matter - as long as you don't want me to get up at 6 o'clock in the morning. if it's ok for you, don't schedule me for weekends. Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Call-for-help-tp32812504p32822480.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Search for notes
On 11/11/11 06:57, Helge Kruse wrote: Hello, exceuse me for abusing the mailing list for this question. I am looking for notes of a piece of the composer Wilhelm Posse (1852-1925), "5 kleine Charakterstücke". I searched WIMA, Mutopia and IMSLP for the notes but wasn't successful. Can you recommend other sources of notes? I would even like poor facsimilies of scans that I could rewrite in Lilypond. 30 seconds with Google found this: http://www.archive.org/download/5kleinecharacter00poss/5kleinecharacter00poss.pdf Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Search for notes
Nick, your Google fu is clearly superior. Shane On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Nick Payne wrote: > On 11/11/11 06:57, Helge Kruse wrote: > > Hello, > > exceuse me for abusing the mailing list for this question. I am looking for > notes of a piece of the composer Wilhelm Posse (1852-1925), "5 kleine > Charakterstücke". I searched WIMA, Mutopia and IMSLP for the notes but > wasn't successful. Can you recommend other sources of notes? I would even > like poor facsimilies of scans that I could rewrite in Lilypond. > > 30 seconds with Google found this: > http://www.archive.org/download/5kleinecharacter00poss/5kleinecharacter00poss.pdf > > Nick > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
2.14.2 vertical spacing ungrouped staves...
I am having some difficulty with what should perhaps be a simple task. I want to control the vertical spacing in collection of ungrouped staves. Reading some of the information online about such a task reveals its perhaps no so basic. Does one control this spacing in the \paper block in the \layout block or in the score. Also there are numerous variables one can change. Each time I attempt to control the vertical spacing, nothing happens. The music I have typeset has too much spacing in between the staves. I am guessing this means 1) I am not changing the right variables, or changing them in the right way or 2) I am making changes in the wrong part of the source. I've tried changing system-system-spacing in the \paper block but I get no change in the output. I am using 2.14.2 Is there please some advice/examples on how to complete this simple task ? Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Search for notes
Am 11.11.2011 04:37, schrieb Shane Brandes: Nick, your Google fu is clearly superior. Shane On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Nick Payne wrote: 30 seconds with Google found this: http://www.archive.org/download/5kleinecharacter00poss/5kleinecharacter00poss.pdf Nick, Can you tell use what query you sent to Google? Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
