Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
If someone is interesting I have now set up the old and the new build 
version of LilyPond according to this guide: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/concurrent-stable-and-development-versions


I have also added the new version in Frescobaldi.

Next I will look at the modified font...

Best
Peter


On 09/03/2013 09:44 PM, Peter Bjuhr wrote:


On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:



ok.  Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :)
Please run the attached script.  After it finishes, run
~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help 



I can now confirm the awesomeness! Everything went well, I have 
successfully built lilypond according to the output!


Thanks a lot for the help. It was a lot easier I think!

Best
Peter


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Re: Score examples

2013-09-04 Thread Rutger Hofman

On 09/02/2013 02:50 PM, Urs Liska wrote:

Hi,

I'm compiling a selection of examples to show LilyPond's output quality.
I'm aiming at a collection of ca. 5 examples (1-page excerpts) of
LilyPond scores tweaked to publication quality and a similar number of
examples of out-of-the-box engraving.
The latter is intended to show that one can _work_ with default scores
quite good, that is one can play from them and one can use them to
finish an edition for example, without having to bother about engraving
details too early.

Another goal of this collection is to show a variety of styles.
Therefore I would be happy if you would send me (privately) examples you
would share for that purpose.
If I should get way too many submissions I might think of using them for
a kind of gallery ,-)

If it's 'publication quality' it should of course be as beautiful as
possible.
If it's out-of-the-box it should of course _be_ untweaked. It may well
have deficiencies but should show the superior legibility of all
LilyPond scores.
I would also call it out-of-the-box if there is a general 'house' style
sheet applied. Maybe I'll have a third group with such examples.


All my contributions to IMSLP are lilypond typesets as wll. See 
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Hofman,_Rutger/Editor and 
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Hofman,_Rutger/Arranger


All of these would be in the category out-of-the-box, with sometimes a 
very little bit of tweaking.


I think the Caplet orchestration of Debussy's 'Clair de lune' 
http://imslp.org/wiki/Suite_bergamasque_(Debussy,_Claude)#For_Orchestra_.28Caplet.29 
has most showcasing potential: harp (PianoStaff) w/ cross-staff 
arpeggios; simultaneous different time signatures; extra staff for solo 
violin; parts and score from one source; and some more, I guess. I would 
organise some things differently now, but that wouldn't change the 
typesets. (BTW, this is a ravishing piece+orchestration that deserves to 
be played much more often.)


Rutger



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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
 I recommend that you try these two branches:
 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462
 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was
 actually written by David Kastrup)

BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the build script, so
you can go to the janek-scripts/ directory and do a 'git pull' to get
them.

best,
Janek

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Re: Cadenza on two staves

2013-09-04 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2013/9/4 Tommaso Gordini illinguista1...@gmail.com


 Hello to all,


Hi Tommaso,


  You can help me or tell me which part of the documentation I have to see?


check here :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/keyboard-and-other-multi_002dstaff-instruments
and here : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/snippets/keyboards



 Is there a way to space the notes in a cadence in a uniform way? In
 another example, I noticed that this does not happen if I put in the
 cadence whole notes and quarter notes, the latter are printed closer to
 whole notes.


Here's how I would write it :

\version 2.16.2

\score {



\new Staff

\relative c' {

\clef treble

\cadenzaOn

s1*4 %% here's 4 skiped notes that correspond to the bass notes

e1 g

bes4_\markup \rotate #-135 ↗ \stemDown

c1 d e

f4^\markup \rotate #45 ↗

g1 a4_\markup \rotate #-135 ↗

bes^\markup \rotate #45 ↗ b1 c

\cadenzaOff

\bar ||

}

\new Staff

\relative c, {

\clef bass

\key c \major

c1

c'

g'

c

s1*9 %% here's 9 skiped notes that correspond to the sopran notes

}



 \layout {

\context {

\Voice

\override StringNumber #'Y-extent =

#(ly:make-unpure-pure-container

ly:grob::stencil-height

(lambda (grob start end) (ly:grob::stencil-height grob)))

stringNumberOrientations = #'(right)

\override StringNumber #'padding = 0

}

\context {

\Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver

}

\context {

\Score

\remove Bar_number_engraver

\override Stem #'transparent = ##t

\override SpacingSpanner #'uniform-stretching = ##t

}

}

}


Cheers,

Pierre
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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 09/04/2013 04:32 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:


BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the build script, so
you can go to the janek-scripts/ directory and do a 'git pull' to get
them.


Done, thanks!

Best
Peter

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Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)

2013-09-04 Thread Urs Liska

Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG:

Hi, Urs:

Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs.  I don't know how to 
code \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff 
before) in my score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has 
cross staff phrasing. I use \new Staff on my score.


You don't need to do that at that level.
If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write 
(at any time):


\change Staff = left

and then the current voice will continue in the other staff.
For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest 
+ half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the 
other staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the 
staff as I have described.

This way you can write the slur without problems.


I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet


  Setting the control points of a slur manually
  http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=134 [0.07280]

You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape 
in LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision.
So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from 
LilyPond's default engraving.


Use
\shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example

\shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur

for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than 
default.


HTH
Urs

I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 
31,35, 115, 118, 119  121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf



  3. Re:cross-staff phrasing (slur) (Urs Liska)


Message: 3
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200
From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org 
mailto:52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed

Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG:
 Dear lilyponders:

 I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing
 engraving.  Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png.
 Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119  121.  Lily coding is in
 forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated.

 Thank you for the help.
 Ming

Hi Ming,

I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's
quite simple to do in LilyPond.
As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to
write the phrase in one voice.
This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or
left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests.

HTH
Urs



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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:


Hm.  That's not enough information.  What was the full command you ran
(with options)?  Also, can you paste more output?
Janek
I have sent you the full output. I didn't do any options. Didn't last 
time and didn't think of it this time. Is that the problem?


Best
Peter

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:


Wow!  (i expected problems :P)  All these hours spent on writing the
script finally paid off :-D

I recommend that you try these two branches:
origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462
origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was
actually written by David Kastrup)
I use them almost all the time, and i like the results very much!
Using my script's merging ability you should be able to easily get a
lilypond that has both of these together with font change.


I went to the sources folder and did

git branch -a
The feta modification branch is there but not the experimentals above. 
Did I look in the wrong place for these?


Do I use some of your scripts to merge the branches?

I'm sorry to ask, I'm not so experienced with git yet...

Best
Peter


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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:

 On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
 I recommend that you try these two branches:
 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462
 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was
 actually written by David Kastrup)

 I went to the sources folder and did

 git branch -a

 The feta modification branch is there but not the experimentals above. Did I
 look in the wrong place for these?

No, this is the correct place.  Have you pulled new commits to your
lilypond sources?  I've pushed these two branches barely before
sending that email.
If you did pull and still don't have these branches, you probably just
have old git version which doesn't fetch them (for whatever reason).
What 'git --version' tells you?  If it reports a version older than
1.7.9, i strongly suggest upgrading:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install git

after doing this 'git --version' should report 1.8.something.

 Do I use some of your scripts to merge the branches?

The script for building lilypond (build-lily.sh) can do the merge for
you (for the sake of building), but the branches have to exist in your
repository.

hope this helps,
Janek

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Re: Score examples

2013-09-04 Thread Simon Bailey
hi urs,


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

 I'm compiling a selection of examples to show LilyPond's output quality.
 I'm aiming at a collection of ca. 5 examples (1-page excerpts) of LilyPond
 scores tweaked to publication quality and a similar number of examples of
 out-of-the-box engraving.
 The latter is intended to show that one can _work_ with default scores
 quite good, that is one can play from them and one can use them to finish
 an edition for example, without having to bother about engraving details
 too early.

 Another goal of this collection is to show a variety of styles. Therefore
 I would be happy if you would send me (privately) examples you would share
 for that purpose.
 If I should get way too many submissions I might think of using them for a
 kind of gallery ,-)

 If it's 'publication quality' it should of course be as beautiful as
 possible.
 If it's out-of-the-box it should of course _be_ untweaked. It may well
 have deficiencies but should show the superior legibility of all LilyPond
 scores.
 I would also call it out-of-the-box if there is a general 'house' style
 sheet applied. Maybe I'll have a third group with such examples.


publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf

following tweaks:
- pedal symbols have been shifted slightly to give a more pleasing layout
 (self-alignment #LEFT and X-offset #-1.2) [*]
- ottava symbols redefined to be bold italic [*]
- some padding on the RehearsalMarks for segno, coda, d.s. and Coda
title. [*]
- baseline-skip in the tempo mark
- pango-font-tree uses Cronos and Kepler through typekit font sync [*]
- titling-layout has been changed a LOT to conform to my house style [*]
- \override StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.basic-distance = #10

[*] -- these are all defined in a house include file with a lot of other
definitions.

regards,
sb
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out-of-the-box

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Urs Liska:

 

For a little more than a year I have been learning Lilypond. The scores are
prepared for my own practice and private presentations. I offer them not as
a demonstration of my ability but as a visualization of the out-of-the-box
possibilities of Lilypond.   The program is complex, yet not complicated. A
person, as myself, with limited knowledge of computer programming can
produce legible and attractive scores.

 

Mark Stephen Mrotek

 

Bach, Four Duets, Clavier-Ubung III, BWV 803 - 806 

Bach, Fuge, BWV 947

Bach, Inventio, BWV 777

Bach, Six Preludes, BWV 933 - 938 

Bach, WTC I 3, BWV 849

Brahms, Ballade, Op. 118 No. 3

Chopin, Etude, Op. 10 No. 3

Chopin, Valse, Op. 64 No. 1

Chopin, Valse, Op. 64 No. 2

Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:35

Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:36

Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:37

Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:46

Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:49

Mozart, Sonate, K. 333

Mozart, Theme and 12 Variations, K. 265/300e

Scarlatti, Sonata, K. 30

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:

 On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
 ok.  Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :)
 Please run the attached script.  After it finishes, run
 ~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help

 I can now confirm the awesomeness! Everything went well, I have
 successfully built lilypond according to the output!

 Thanks a lot for the help. It was a lot easier I think!

Wow!  (i expected problems :P)  All these hours spent on writing the
script finally paid off :-D

I recommend that you try these two branches:
origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462
origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was
actually written by David Kastrup)
I use them almost all the time, and i like the results very much!
Using my script's merging ability you should be able to easily get a
lilypond that has both of these together with font change.

cheers,
Janek

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:
 On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:


 Hm.  That's not enough information.  What was the full command you ran
 (with options)?  Also, can you paste more output?
 Janek

 I have sent you the full output.

I see.  Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine.  Please
try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me
know if it fails again.

 I didn't do any options. Didn't last time
 and didn't think of it this time. Is that the problem?

No, it should run just fine without any options - i just thought that
you may have used some and that they caused the error.

Janek

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A Question and Apologies

2013-09-04 Thread Joshua Nichols
First, I want to thank all who helped me with the hymn issue. I'm sorry for
my etiquette, and for any pestering I might have done to the mailing list.
Please accept my apologies; I promise to behave from now on!

I would like to engrave a bracket (like a piano bracket) in a piece of
organ literature to indicate a manual shift across the board.

Is this in the documentation anywhere? I'm still learning through it, so
synthesizing fine tweaks is still above me. Perhaps, has anyone else done
this?



Sincerely,

Josh
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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 09/04/2013 05:45 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:


No, this is the correct place.  Have you pulled new commits to your
lilypond sources?  I've pushed these two branches barely before
sending that email.
If you did pull and still don't have these branches, you probably just
have old git version which doesn't fetch them (for whatever reason).
What 'git --version' tells you?  If it reports a version older than
1.7.9, i strongly suggest upgrading:

 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install git

after doing this 'git --version' should report 1.8.something.


Do I use some of your scripts to merge the branches?

The script for building lilypond (build-lily.sh) can do the merge for
you (for the sake of building), but the branches have to exist in your
repository.

The git version was above 1.8 but I didn't do pull, sorry.

I did it now and run build-lily.sh again. But this time I got an error:


make: *** [all] Error 2

real0m30.033s
user1m30.064s
sys0m3.596s
Make failed.
Exiting.

Best
Peter

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:
 I did it now and run build-lily.sh again. But this time I got an error:

 make: *** [all] Error 2

 real0m30.033s
 user1m30.064s
 sys0m3.596s
 Make failed.
 Exiting.

Hm.  That's not enough information.  What was the full command you ran
(with options)?  Also, can you paste more output?
Janek

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:

I see.  Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine.  Please
try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me
know if it fails again.



Now the build was successful! Thanks again!

Peter

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:

 On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:

 I see.  Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine.  Please
 try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me
 know if it fails again.

 Now the build was successful! Thanks again!

Good :)
It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has
to be built from scratch.  It's nevertheless surprising that this had
happened to you...

Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches.

And btw, since you're going to have several lilyponds with the same
version number, you might be interested in running Frescobaldi from
source as well, since it will enable you to use this enhancement made
by me: 
https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/59f54df181d3d24be79387eaedec3c89faaa4e31

best,
Janek

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:


Good :)
It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has
to be built from scratch.  It's nevertheless surprising that this had
happened to you...

Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches.

And btw, since you're going to have several lilyponds with the same
version number, you might be interested in running Frescobaldi from
source as well, since it will enable you to use this enhancement made
by me: 
https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/59f54df181d3d24be79387eaedec3c89faaa4e31



Thanks, it looks interesting!

Best
Peter

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Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)

2013-09-04 Thread Helge Kruse
Additionally to Urs' reply I edited your code and just added the change stuff.

Regards
Helge

2013/9/4 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG:

 Hi, Urs:

 Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs.  I don't know how to code
 \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff before) in my
 score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has cross staff phrasing.
 I use \new Staff on my score.


 You don't need to do that at that level.
 If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write (at
 any time):

 \change Staff = left

 and then the current voice will continue in the other staff.
 For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest +
 half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the other
 staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the staff as
 I have described.
 This way you can write the slur without problems.


 I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet

 Setting the control points of a slur manually [0.07280]

 You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape in
 LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision.
 So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from LilyPond's
 default engraving.

 Use
 \shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example

 \shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur

 for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than
 default.

 HTH
 Urs


 I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 31,35,
 115, 118, 119  121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf
 

   3. Re:cross-staff phrasing (slur) (Urs Liska)


 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200
 From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
 Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed


 Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG:
 Dear lilyponders:

 I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing
 engraving.  Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png.
 Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119  121.  Lily coding is in
 forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated.

 Thank you for the help.
 Ming

 Hi Ming,

 I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's
 quite simple to do in LilyPond.
 As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to
 write the phrase in one voice.
 This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or
 left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests.

 HTH
 Urs



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Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)

2013-09-04 Thread Helge Kruse
Now with with the  correct file.

2013/9/4 Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net:
 Additionally to Urs' reply I edited your code and just added the change stuff.

 Regards
 Helge

 2013/9/4 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG:

 Hi, Urs:

 Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs.  I don't know how to code
 \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff before) in my
 score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has cross staff phrasing.
 I use \new Staff on my score.


 You don't need to do that at that level.
 If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write (at
 any time):

 \change Staff = left

 and then the current voice will continue in the other staff.
 For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest +
 half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the other
 staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the staff as
 I have described.
 This way you can write the slur without problems.


 I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet

 Setting the control points of a slur manually [0.07280]

 You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape in
 LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision.
 So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from LilyPond's
 default engraving.

 Use
 \shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example

 \shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur

 for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than
 default.

 HTH
 Urs


 I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 31,35,
 115, 118, 119  121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf
 

   3. Re:cross-staff phrasing (slur) (Urs Liska)


 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200
 From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
 Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed


 Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG:
 Dear lilyponders:

 I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing
 engraving.  Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png.
 Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119  121.  Lily coding is in
 forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated.

 Thank you for the help.
 Ming

 Hi Ming,

 I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's
 quite simple to do in LilyPond.
 As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to
 write the phrase in one voice.
 This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or
 left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests.

 HTH
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Re: A Question and Apologies

2013-09-04 Thread Phil Holmes
I don't understand what you're trying to do.  Do you have an image that you 
could share?

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Joshua Nichols 
  To: Mailinglist lilypond-user 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:25 PM
  Subject: A Question and Apologies


  First, I want to thank all who helped me with the hymn issue. I'm sorry for 
my etiquette, and for any pestering I might have done to the mailing list. 
Please accept my apologies; I promise to behave from now on!

  I would like to engrave a bracket (like a piano bracket) in a piece of organ 
literature to indicate a manual shift across the board.


  Is this in the documentation anywhere? I'm still learning through it, so 
synthesizing fine tweaks is still above me. Perhaps, has anyone else done this?






  Sincerely,

  Josh


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Re: Score examples

2013-09-04 Thread Tim Roberts
Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

 If it's 'publication quality' it should of course be as beautiful
 as possible.
 If it's out-of-the-box it should of course _be_ untweaked. It may
 well have deficiencies but should show the superior legibility of
 all LilyPond scores.
 I would also call it out-of-the-box if there is a general 'house'
 style sheet applied. Maybe I'll have a third group with such examples.


 publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf

In Acrobat, this is lovely.  The Firefox built-in PDF reader cuts off
the left half of the segno and coda symbols.  I submitted this as a bug
report to the Mozilla folks.

Frankly, I'm amazed that the built-in reader does as good a job as it
does, considering it is written entirely in Javascript.

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:


Good :)
It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has
to be built from scratch.  It's nevertheless surprising that this had
happened to you...

Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches.

And btw, since you're going to have several lilyponds with the same
version number, you might be interested in running Frescobaldi from
source as well, since it will enable you to use this enhancement made
by me: 
https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/59f54df181d3d24be79387eaedec3c89faaa4e31


Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches

Best
Peter
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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:
 Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches?

If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't
have to do anything.

 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches

Oh my God!  This looks awful, and is probably meant for ancient Git
versions (like 1.7.0).  Ugh.  We should update that instructions...

With new git versions (1.8 and above), you can just do 'git checkout
origin/blahblah' and a local 'blahblah' branch will be created
automatically for you (and checked-out).

If you'd like to give your local branch a specific name, you can run
'git branch myname remotebranch', i.e. 'git branch foo origin/trololo'
will create a local branch 'foo' that will be tracking branch
'trololo' from remote 'origin'.

hth,
Janek

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Re: Score examples

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Tim Roberts t...@probo.com:
 Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at wrote:
 publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf

 In Acrobat, this is lovely.

Except that it probably suffers from
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2658, doesn't it?
(i don't have Acrobat on my Ubuntu, but it always behaved like that...)

Janek

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:
 Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches?

 If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't
 have to do anything.

 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches

 Oh my God!  This looks awful, and is probably meant for ancient Git
 versions (like 1.7.0).  Ugh.  We should update that instructions...

 With new git versions (1.8 and above), you can just do 'git checkout
 origin/blahblah' and a local 'blahblah' branch will be created
 automatically for you (and checked-out).

Uh, no?  It doesn't create a local branch but rather checks out a commit
detached from any branch.  At least that's what Git 1.8.3.2 does for me
(and it did so as long as I remember).

 If you'd like to give your local branch a specific name, you can run
 'git branch myname remotebranch', i.e. 'git branch foo origin/trololo'
 will create a local branch 'foo' that will be tracking branch
 'trololo' from remote 'origin'.

Sure.  Again, this has been this way, like, forever.

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Re: Score examples

2013-09-04 Thread Tim Roberts
Janek Warchoł wrote:
 2013/9/4 Tim Roberts t...@probo.com:
 Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at wrote:
 publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf
 In Acrobat, this is lovely.
 Except that it probably suffers from
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2658, doesn't it?

Yes, under magnification, it does.

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:
 Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches?

 If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't
 have to do anything.

 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches

 Oh my God!  This looks awful, and is probably meant for ancient Git
 versions (like 1.7.0).  Ugh.  We should update that instructions...

 With new git versions (1.8 and above), you can just do 'git checkout
 origin/blahblah' and a local 'blahblah' branch will be created
 automatically for you (and checked-out).

 Uh, no?  It doesn't create a local branch but rather checks out a commit
 detached from any branch.  At least that's what Git 1.8.3.2 does for me
 (and it did so as long as I remember).

You are right, i apologize for my mistake.
However, 'git checkout blahblah' (without 'origin/') will create a
local 'blahblah' branch, tracking 'origin/blahblah' (as long as a
local 'blahblah' branch hadn't existed yet, or course),
and this _is_ a relatively new feature in git.

 If you'd like to give your local branch a specific name, you can run
 'git branch myname remotebranch', i.e. 'git branch foo origin/trololo'
 will create a local branch 'foo' that will be tracking branch
 'trololo' from remote 'origin'.

 Sure.  Again, this has been this way, like, forever.

Hard to tell why contributors' guide lists a less straightforward command then.

best,
Janek

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:
 If everything is set I'll do a test!

 Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course
 regular feta font.

 And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the
 modified feta then? It's hard to spot any difference, but I noticed that
 there were an added color profile Artifex Software sRGB ICC Profile.

There are just a few modifications (to the clef, flags and
accidentals) in my branch.  However, as far as i can see both images
show an unmodified version of the font.
Are you sure that you have compiled your file with appropriate binary?
 If you had used my script with -c option, than the build was most
probably placed in a different directory than previously.

Maybe we could chat via IRC (see http://www.lilypond.org/contact.html)
or google chat?  It would be faster than emails.

best,
Janek

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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr

Ok! I'll try out IRC!

Peter

On 09/04/2013 09:02 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:

2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:

If everything is set I'll do a test!

Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course
regular feta font.

And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the
modified feta then? It's hard to spot any difference, but I noticed that
there were an added color profile Artifex Software sRGB ICC Profile.

There are just a few modifications (to the clef, flags and
accidentals) in my branch.  However, as far as i can see both images
show an unmodified version of the font.
Are you sure that you have compiled your file with appropriate binary?
  If you had used my script with -c option, than the build was most
probably placed in a different directory than previously.

Maybe we could chat via IRC (see http://www.lilypond.org/contact.html)
or google chat?  It would be faster than emails.

best,
Janek



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Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Shane Brandes
That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make
everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different
flags.

Shane

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com wrote:
 After a very helpful chat with Janek I have now another example. Now the
 difference should be more visible!

 Best

 Peter


 On 09/04/2013 09:02 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:

 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com:

 If everything is set I'll do a test!

 Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course
 regular feta font.

 And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the
 modified feta then? It's hard to spot any difference, but I noticed that
 there were an added color profile Artifex Software sRGB ICC Profile.

 There are just a few modifications (to the clef, flags and
 accidentals) in my branch.  However, as far as i can see both images
 show an unmodified version of the font.
 Are you sure that you have compiled your file with appropriate binary?
   If you had used my script with -c option, than the build was most
 probably placed in a different directory than previously.

 Maybe we could chat via IRC (see http://www.lilypond.org/contact.html)
 or google chat?  It would be faster than emails.

 best,
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Graphics

2013-09-04 Thread Shane Brandes
Hi all,

  This is really just a few observations on the including of graphics.
I noticed it is possible to import eps files. This is neat.  It turns
out that you can move things about using the following:

\markup {{
\vspace #21
\hspace #45
\rotate #45 % This must come after the vertical and horizontal
%adjustments if it is to be used
\epsfile #Y #20 #/home/doodles/doodling.eps  % this should be noted
in the documentation that you must specify a file location in addition
to the file name. Otherwise lilypond looks in its font folder instead
of where the image actually is.
}}

My question is is there an easier way of deducing position or
assigning position? It takes a bit of guess work to figure out were
the eps will land on the page. Also I noticed that there is some sort
of layer property -\tweak #'layer #-1 It would be interesting to place
the image below the score. But for some reason I can not get that to
work. So more fun things Lilypond sort of does.

Shane

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Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)

2013-09-04 Thread MING TSANG
Helge,  

Sorry my previous email don't include your email address.  Thank you for your 
sample \change Staff = right or left code. It helps me a lot.

Thanks,
Ming



 From: Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net
To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org 
Cc: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org 
lilypond-user@gnu.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:21:48 PM
Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
 

Now with with the  correct file.

2013/9/4 Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net:
 Additionally to Urs' reply I edited your code and just added the change stuff.

 Regards
 Helge

 2013/9/4 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG:

 Hi, Urs:

 Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs.  I don't know how to code
 \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff before) in my
 score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has cross staff phrasing.
 I use \new Staff on my score.


 You don't need to do that at that level.
 If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write (at
 any time):

 \change Staff = left

 and then the current voice will continue in the other staff.
 For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest +
 half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the other
 staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the staff as
 I have described.
 This way you can write the slur without problems.


 I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet

 Setting the control points of a slur manually [0.07280]

 You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape in
 LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision.
 So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from LilyPond's
 default engraving.

 Use
 \shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example

 \shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur

 for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than
 default.

 HTH
 Urs


 I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 31,35,
 115, 118, 119  121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf
 

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 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200
 From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
 Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed


 Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG:
 Dear lilyponders:

 I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing
 engraving.  Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png.
 Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119  121.  Lily coding is in
 forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated.

 Thank you for the help.
 Ming

 Hi Ming,

 I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's
 quite simple to do in LilyPond.
 As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to
 write the phrase in one voice.
 This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or
 left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests.

 HTH
 Urs



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Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)

2013-09-04 Thread Urs Liska

Am 05.09.2013 01:42, schrieb MING TSANG:

Hi, Urs and Helge Kruse (sorry Helge - don't have your email address)

I managed to code cross staff phrasing with \change Staff = right or 
left with Helge's sample code.  I added other cross staff slurs.


Please refer to the attached. I coded bar 31, 35 and 121; but for bar 
115 118 and 119 - I have time coding it.  Help is appreciated.


Sorry, I see your problems (you can't do these bars with only one 
voice), but it isn't evident what exactly you want to slur.

In m. 114 for example the slur is simply in the left hand.

Urs


Thanks,
Ming


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