Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
If someone is interesting I have now set up the old and the new build version of LilyPond according to this guide: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/concurrent-stable-and-development-versions I have also added the new version in Frescobaldi. Next I will look at the modified font... Best Peter On 09/03/2013 09:44 PM, Peter Bjuhr wrote: On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: ok. Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :) Please run the attached script. After it finishes, run ~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help I can now confirm the awesomeness! Everything went well, I have successfully built lilypond according to the output! Thanks a lot for the help. It was a lot easier I think! Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Score examples
On 09/02/2013 02:50 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Hi, I'm compiling a selection of examples to show LilyPond's output quality. I'm aiming at a collection of ca. 5 examples (1-page excerpts) of LilyPond scores tweaked to publication quality and a similar number of examples of out-of-the-box engraving. The latter is intended to show that one can _work_ with default scores quite good, that is one can play from them and one can use them to finish an edition for example, without having to bother about engraving details too early. Another goal of this collection is to show a variety of styles. Therefore I would be happy if you would send me (privately) examples you would share for that purpose. If I should get way too many submissions I might think of using them for a kind of gallery ,-) If it's 'publication quality' it should of course be as beautiful as possible. If it's out-of-the-box it should of course _be_ untweaked. It may well have deficiencies but should show the superior legibility of all LilyPond scores. I would also call it out-of-the-box if there is a general 'house' style sheet applied. Maybe I'll have a third group with such examples. All my contributions to IMSLP are lilypond typesets as wll. See http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Hofman,_Rutger/Editor and http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Hofman,_Rutger/Arranger All of these would be in the category out-of-the-box, with sometimes a very little bit of tweaking. I think the Caplet orchestration of Debussy's 'Clair de lune' http://imslp.org/wiki/Suite_bergamasque_(Debussy,_Claude)#For_Orchestra_.28Caplet.29 has most showcasing potential: harp (PianoStaff) w/ cross-staff arpeggios; simultaneous different time signatures; extra staff for solo violin; parts and score from one source; and some more, I guess. I would organise some things differently now, but that wouldn't change the typesets. (BTW, this is a ravishing piece+orchestration that deserves to be played much more often.) Rutger ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was actually written by David Kastrup) BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the build script, so you can go to the janek-scripts/ directory and do a 'git pull' to get them. best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cadenza on two staves
2013/9/4 Tommaso Gordini illinguista1...@gmail.com Hello to all, Hi Tommaso, You can help me or tell me which part of the documentation I have to see? check here : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/keyboard-and-other-multi_002dstaff-instruments and here : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/snippets/keyboards Is there a way to space the notes in a cadence in a uniform way? In another example, I noticed that this does not happen if I put in the cadence whole notes and quarter notes, the latter are printed closer to whole notes. Here's how I would write it : \version 2.16.2 \score { \new Staff \relative c' { \clef treble \cadenzaOn s1*4 %% here's 4 skiped notes that correspond to the bass notes e1 g bes4_\markup \rotate #-135 ↗ \stemDown c1 d e f4^\markup \rotate #45 ↗ g1 a4_\markup \rotate #-135 ↗ bes^\markup \rotate #45 ↗ b1 c \cadenzaOff \bar || } \new Staff \relative c, { \clef bass \key c \major c1 c' g' c s1*9 %% here's 9 skiped notes that correspond to the sopran notes } \layout { \context { \Voice \override StringNumber #'Y-extent = #(ly:make-unpure-pure-container ly:grob::stencil-height (lambda (grob start end) (ly:grob::stencil-height grob))) stringNumberOrientations = #'(right) \override StringNumber #'padding = 0 } \context { \Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver } \context { \Score \remove Bar_number_engraver \override Stem #'transparent = ##t \override SpacingSpanner #'uniform-stretching = ##t } } } Cheers, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
On 09/04/2013 04:32 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the build script, so you can go to the janek-scripts/ directory and do a 'git pull' to get them. Done, thanks! Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG: Hi, Urs: Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs. I don't know how to code \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff before) in my score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has cross staff phrasing. I use \new Staff on my score. You don't need to do that at that level. If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write (at any time): \change Staff = left and then the current voice will continue in the other staff. For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest + half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the other staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the staff as I have described. This way you can write the slur without problems. I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet Setting the control points of a slur manually http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=134 [0.07280] You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape in LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision. So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from LilyPond's default engraving. Use \shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example \shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than default. HTH Urs I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 31,35, 115, 118, 119 121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf 3. Re:cross-staff phrasing (slur) (Urs Liska) Message: 3 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200 From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur) Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org mailto:52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG: Dear lilyponders: I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing engraving. Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png. Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119 121. Lily coding is in forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated. Thank you for the help. Ming Hi Ming, I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's quite simple to do in LilyPond. As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to write the phrase in one voice. This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests. HTH Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran (with options)? Also, can you paste more output? Janek I have sent you the full output. I didn't do any options. Didn't last time and didn't think of it this time. Is that the problem? Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Wow! (i expected problems :P) All these hours spent on writing the script finally paid off :-D I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was actually written by David Kastrup) I use them almost all the time, and i like the results very much! Using my script's merging ability you should be able to easily get a lilypond that has both of these together with font change. I went to the sources folder and did git branch -a The feta modification branch is there but not the experimentals above. Did I look in the wrong place for these? Do I use some of your scripts to merge the branches? I'm sorry to ask, I'm not so experienced with git yet... Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was actually written by David Kastrup) I went to the sources folder and did git branch -a The feta modification branch is there but not the experimentals above. Did I look in the wrong place for these? No, this is the correct place. Have you pulled new commits to your lilypond sources? I've pushed these two branches barely before sending that email. If you did pull and still don't have these branches, you probably just have old git version which doesn't fetch them (for whatever reason). What 'git --version' tells you? If it reports a version older than 1.7.9, i strongly suggest upgrading: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install git after doing this 'git --version' should report 1.8.something. Do I use some of your scripts to merge the branches? The script for building lilypond (build-lily.sh) can do the merge for you (for the sake of building), but the branches have to exist in your repository. hope this helps, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Score examples
hi urs, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote: I'm compiling a selection of examples to show LilyPond's output quality. I'm aiming at a collection of ca. 5 examples (1-page excerpts) of LilyPond scores tweaked to publication quality and a similar number of examples of out-of-the-box engraving. The latter is intended to show that one can _work_ with default scores quite good, that is one can play from them and one can use them to finish an edition for example, without having to bother about engraving details too early. Another goal of this collection is to show a variety of styles. Therefore I would be happy if you would send me (privately) examples you would share for that purpose. If I should get way too many submissions I might think of using them for a kind of gallery ,-) If it's 'publication quality' it should of course be as beautiful as possible. If it's out-of-the-box it should of course _be_ untweaked. It may well have deficiencies but should show the superior legibility of all LilyPond scores. I would also call it out-of-the-box if there is a general 'house' style sheet applied. Maybe I'll have a third group with such examples. publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf following tweaks: - pedal symbols have been shifted slightly to give a more pleasing layout (self-alignment #LEFT and X-offset #-1.2) [*] - ottava symbols redefined to be bold italic [*] - some padding on the RehearsalMarks for segno, coda, d.s. and Coda title. [*] - baseline-skip in the tempo mark - pango-font-tree uses Cronos and Kepler through typekit font sync [*] - titling-layout has been changed a LOT to conform to my house style [*] - \override StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.basic-distance = #10 [*] -- these are all defined in a house include file with a lot of other definitions. regards, sb ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
out-of-the-box
Urs Liska: For a little more than a year I have been learning Lilypond. The scores are prepared for my own practice and private presentations. I offer them not as a demonstration of my ability but as a visualization of the out-of-the-box possibilities of Lilypond. The program is complex, yet not complicated. A person, as myself, with limited knowledge of computer programming can produce legible and attractive scores. Mark Stephen Mrotek Bach, Four Duets, Clavier-Ubung III, BWV 803 - 806 Bach, Fuge, BWV 947 Bach, Inventio, BWV 777 Bach, Six Preludes, BWV 933 - 938 Bach, WTC I 3, BWV 849 Brahms, Ballade, Op. 118 No. 3 Chopin, Etude, Op. 10 No. 3 Chopin, Valse, Op. 64 No. 1 Chopin, Valse, Op. 64 No. 2 Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:35 Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:36 Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:37 Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:46 Haydn, Sonata, Hob. XVI:49 Mozart, Sonate, K. 333 Mozart, Theme and 12 Variations, K. 265/300e Scarlatti, Sonata, K. 30 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: ok. Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :) Please run the attached script. After it finishes, run ~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help I can now confirm the awesomeness! Everything went well, I have successfully built lilypond according to the output! Thanks a lot for the help. It was a lot easier I think! Wow! (i expected problems :P) All these hours spent on writing the script finally paid off :-D I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was actually written by David Kastrup) I use them almost all the time, and i like the results very much! Using my script's merging ability you should be able to easily get a lilypond that has both of these together with font change. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran (with options)? Also, can you paste more output? Janek I have sent you the full output. I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine. Please try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me know if it fails again. I didn't do any options. Didn't last time and didn't think of it this time. Is that the problem? No, it should run just fine without any options - i just thought that you may have used some and that they caused the error. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
A Question and Apologies
First, I want to thank all who helped me with the hymn issue. I'm sorry for my etiquette, and for any pestering I might have done to the mailing list. Please accept my apologies; I promise to behave from now on! I would like to engrave a bracket (like a piano bracket) in a piece of organ literature to indicate a manual shift across the board. Is this in the documentation anywhere? I'm still learning through it, so synthesizing fine tweaks is still above me. Perhaps, has anyone else done this? Sincerely, Josh ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
On 09/04/2013 05:45 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: No, this is the correct place. Have you pulled new commits to your lilypond sources? I've pushed these two branches barely before sending that email. If you did pull and still don't have these branches, you probably just have old git version which doesn't fetch them (for whatever reason). What 'git --version' tells you? If it reports a version older than 1.7.9, i strongly suggest upgrading: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install git after doing this 'git --version' should report 1.8.something. Do I use some of your scripts to merge the branches? The script for building lilypond (build-lily.sh) can do the merge for you (for the sake of building), but the branches have to exist in your repository. The git version was above 1.8 but I didn't do pull, sorry. I did it now and run build-lily.sh again. But this time I got an error: make: *** [all] Error 2 real0m30.033s user1m30.064s sys0m3.596s Make failed. Exiting. Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: I did it now and run build-lily.sh again. But this time I got an error: make: *** [all] Error 2 real0m30.033s user1m30.064s sys0m3.596s Make failed. Exiting. Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran (with options)? Also, can you paste more output? Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine. Please try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me know if it fails again. Now the build was successful! Thanks again! Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine. Please try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me know if it fails again. Now the build was successful! Thanks again! Good :) It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has to be built from scratch. It's nevertheless surprising that this had happened to you... Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches. And btw, since you're going to have several lilyponds with the same version number, you might be interested in running Frescobaldi from source as well, since it will enable you to use this enhancement made by me: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/59f54df181d3d24be79387eaedec3c89faaa4e31 best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Good :) It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has to be built from scratch. It's nevertheless surprising that this had happened to you... Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches. And btw, since you're going to have several lilyponds with the same version number, you might be interested in running Frescobaldi from source as well, since it will enable you to use this enhancement made by me: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/59f54df181d3d24be79387eaedec3c89faaa4e31 Thanks, it looks interesting! Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
Additionally to Urs' reply I edited your code and just added the change stuff. Regards Helge 2013/9/4 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG: Hi, Urs: Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs. I don't know how to code \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff before) in my score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has cross staff phrasing. I use \new Staff on my score. You don't need to do that at that level. If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write (at any time): \change Staff = left and then the current voice will continue in the other staff. For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest + half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the other staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the staff as I have described. This way you can write the slur without problems. I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet Setting the control points of a slur manually [0.07280] You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape in LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision. So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from LilyPond's default engraving. Use \shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example \shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than default. HTH Urs I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 31,35, 115, 118, 119 121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf 3. Re:cross-staff phrasing (slur) (Urs Liska) Message: 3 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200 From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur) Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG: Dear lilyponders: I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing engraving. Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png. Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119 121. Lily coding is in forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated. Thank you for the help. Ming Hi Ming, I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's quite simple to do in LilyPond. As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to write the phrase in one voice. This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests. HTH Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user forever-thanks_T.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
Now with with the correct file. 2013/9/4 Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net: Additionally to Urs' reply I edited your code and just added the change stuff. Regards Helge 2013/9/4 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG: Hi, Urs: Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs. I don't know how to code \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff before) in my score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has cross staff phrasing. I use \new Staff on my score. You don't need to do that at that level. If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write (at any time): \change Staff = left and then the current voice will continue in the other staff. For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest + half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the other staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the staff as I have described. This way you can write the slur without problems. I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet Setting the control points of a slur manually [0.07280] You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape in LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision. So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from LilyPond's default engraving. Use \shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example \shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than default. HTH Urs I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 31,35, 115, 118, 119 121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf 3. Re:cross-staff phrasing (slur) (Urs Liska) Message: 3 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200 From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur) Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG: Dear lilyponders: I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing engraving. Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png. Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119 121. Lily coding is in forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated. Thank you for the help. Ming Hi Ming, I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's quite simple to do in LilyPond. As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to write the phrase in one voice. This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests. HTH Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user forever-thanks_T _cs.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A Question and Apologies
I don't understand what you're trying to do. Do you have an image that you could share? -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Joshua Nichols To: Mailinglist lilypond-user Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: A Question and Apologies First, I want to thank all who helped me with the hymn issue. I'm sorry for my etiquette, and for any pestering I might have done to the mailing list. Please accept my apologies; I promise to behave from now on! I would like to engrave a bracket (like a piano bracket) in a piece of organ literature to indicate a manual shift across the board. Is this in the documentation anywhere? I'm still learning through it, so synthesizing fine tweaks is still above me. Perhaps, has anyone else done this? Sincerely, Josh -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Score examples
Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote: If it's 'publication quality' it should of course be as beautiful as possible. If it's out-of-the-box it should of course _be_ untweaked. It may well have deficiencies but should show the superior legibility of all LilyPond scores. I would also call it out-of-the-box if there is a general 'house' style sheet applied. Maybe I'll have a third group with such examples. publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf In Acrobat, this is lovely. The Firefox built-in PDF reader cuts off the left half of the segno and coda symbols. I submitted this as a bug report to the Mozilla folks. Frankly, I'm amazed that the built-in reader does as good a job as it does, considering it is written entirely in Javascript. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Good :) It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has to be built from scratch. It's nevertheless surprising that this had happened to you... Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches. And btw, since you're going to have several lilyponds with the same version number, you might be interested in running Frescobaldi from source as well, since it will enable you to use this enhancement made by me: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/59f54df181d3d24be79387eaedec3c89faaa4e31 Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't have to do anything. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches Oh my God! This looks awful, and is probably meant for ancient Git versions (like 1.7.0). Ugh. We should update that instructions... With new git versions (1.8 and above), you can just do 'git checkout origin/blahblah' and a local 'blahblah' branch will be created automatically for you (and checked-out). If you'd like to give your local branch a specific name, you can run 'git branch myname remotebranch', i.e. 'git branch foo origin/trololo' will create a local branch 'foo' that will be tracking branch 'trololo' from remote 'origin'. hth, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Score examples
2013/9/4 Tim Roberts t...@probo.com: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at wrote: publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf In Acrobat, this is lovely. Except that it probably suffers from http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2658, doesn't it? (i don't have Acrobat on my Ubuntu, but it always behaved like that...) Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't have to do anything. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches Oh my God! This looks awful, and is probably meant for ancient Git versions (like 1.7.0). Ugh. We should update that instructions... With new git versions (1.8 and above), you can just do 'git checkout origin/blahblah' and a local 'blahblah' branch will be created automatically for you (and checked-out). Uh, no? It doesn't create a local branch but rather checks out a commit detached from any branch. At least that's what Git 1.8.3.2 does for me (and it did so as long as I remember). If you'd like to give your local branch a specific name, you can run 'git branch myname remotebranch', i.e. 'git branch foo origin/trololo' will create a local branch 'foo' that will be tracking branch 'trololo' from remote 'origin'. Sure. Again, this has been this way, like, forever. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Score examples
Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/9/4 Tim Roberts t...@probo.com: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at wrote: publication quality (i think): http://nota.bailey.at/achtsamkeit.pdf In Acrobat, this is lovely. Except that it probably suffers from http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2658, doesn't it? Yes, under magnification, it does. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't have to do anything. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches Oh my God! This looks awful, and is probably meant for ancient Git versions (like 1.7.0). Ugh. We should update that instructions... With new git versions (1.8 and above), you can just do 'git checkout origin/blahblah' and a local 'blahblah' branch will be created automatically for you (and checked-out). Uh, no? It doesn't create a local branch but rather checks out a commit detached from any branch. At least that's what Git 1.8.3.2 does for me (and it did so as long as I remember). You are right, i apologize for my mistake. However, 'git checkout blahblah' (without 'origin/') will create a local 'blahblah' branch, tracking 'origin/blahblah' (as long as a local 'blahblah' branch hadn't existed yet, or course), and this _is_ a relatively new feature in git. If you'd like to give your local branch a specific name, you can run 'git branch myname remotebranch', i.e. 'git branch foo origin/trololo' will create a local branch 'foo' that will be tracking branch 'trololo' from remote 'origin'. Sure. Again, this has been this way, like, forever. Hard to tell why contributors' guide lists a less straightforward command then. best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: If everything is set I'll do a test! Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course regular feta font. And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the modified feta then? It's hard to spot any difference, but I noticed that there were an added color profile Artifex Software sRGB ICC Profile. There are just a few modifications (to the clef, flags and accidentals) in my branch. However, as far as i can see both images show an unmodified version of the font. Are you sure that you have compiled your file with appropriate binary? If you had used my script with -c option, than the build was most probably placed in a different directory than previously. Maybe we could chat via IRC (see http://www.lilypond.org/contact.html) or google chat? It would be faster than emails. best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
Ok! I'll try out IRC! Peter On 09/04/2013 09:02 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: If everything is set I'll do a test! Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course regular feta font. And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the modified feta then? It's hard to spot any difference, but I noticed that there were an added color profile Artifex Software sRGB ICC Profile. There are just a few modifications (to the clef, flags and accidentals) in my branch. However, as far as i can see both images show an unmodified version of the font. Are you sure that you have compiled your file with appropriate binary? If you had used my script with -c option, than the build was most probably placed in a different directory than previously. Maybe we could chat via IRC (see http://www.lilypond.org/contact.html) or google chat? It would be faster than emails. best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feta font modifications by Janek
That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. Shane On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com wrote: After a very helpful chat with Janek I have now another example. Now the difference should be more visible! Best Peter On 09/04/2013 09:02 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: If everything is set I'll do a test! Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course regular feta font. And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the modified feta then? It's hard to spot any difference, but I noticed that there were an added color profile Artifex Software sRGB ICC Profile. There are just a few modifications (to the clef, flags and accidentals) in my branch. However, as far as i can see both images show an unmodified version of the font. Are you sure that you have compiled your file with appropriate binary? If you had used my script with -c option, than the build was most probably placed in a different directory than previously. Maybe we could chat via IRC (see http://www.lilypond.org/contact.html) or google chat? It would be faster than emails. best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Graphics
Hi all, This is really just a few observations on the including of graphics. I noticed it is possible to import eps files. This is neat. It turns out that you can move things about using the following: \markup {{ \vspace #21 \hspace #45 \rotate #45 % This must come after the vertical and horizontal %adjustments if it is to be used \epsfile #Y #20 #/home/doodles/doodling.eps % this should be noted in the documentation that you must specify a file location in addition to the file name. Otherwise lilypond looks in its font folder instead of where the image actually is. }} My question is is there an easier way of deducing position or assigning position? It takes a bit of guess work to figure out were the eps will land on the page. Also I noticed that there is some sort of layer property -\tweak #'layer #-1 It would be interesting to place the image below the score. But for some reason I can not get that to work. So more fun things Lilypond sort of does. Shane ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
Helge, Sorry my previous email don't include your email address. Thank you for your sample \change Staff = right or left code. It helps me a lot. Thanks, Ming From: Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org Cc: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:21:48 PM Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur) Now with with the correct file. 2013/9/4 Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net: Additionally to Urs' reply I edited your code and just added the change stuff. Regards Helge 2013/9/4 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 04.09.2013 16:17, schrieb MING TSANG: Hi, Urs: Thank you for the info pertain to phrasing slurs. I don't know how to code \change Staff in context staff (I have not use context Staff before) in my score which has 122 bars and there are 6 bars that has cross staff phrasing. I use \new Staff on my score. You don't need to do that at that level. If you write music that is printed in the right staff you can write (at any time): \change Staff = left and then the current voice will continue in the other staff. For your examples (of the first post) you would not write [half bar rest + half bar music] in one and [half bar music + half bar rest] in the other staff but write the whole phrase in one voice and let it cross the staff as I have described. This way you can write the slur without problems. I also have difficulty to adapt the snippet Setting the control points of a slur manually [0.07280] You don't need this snippet anymore. By now there is the function \shape in LilyPond that lets you define _offsets_ from LilyPond's decision. So you don't have to find the absolute offsets but can work from LilyPond's default engraving. Use \shape list-of-offsets grob, that is for example \shape #'((0 . 1)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) PhrasingSlur for tweaking a phrasing slur to have its starting point '1' higher than default. HTH Urs I have completed the 122-bar score without the phrasing slurs on bars 31,35, 115, 118, 119 121. Please refer to the attached .ly and .pdf 3. Re:cross-staff phrasing (slur) (Urs Liska) Message: 3 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:30:53 +0200 From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur) Message-ID: 52261ccd.1080...@openlilylib.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Am 03.09.2013 14:22, schrieb MING TSANG: Dear lilyponders: I search LSR and cannot find help about cross-staff phrasing engraving. Is it possible in lilypond? Please refer to attached .png. Cross phrasing (slur) in in measure 118, 119 121. Lily coding is in forever-thanks_T.ly ( no cross staff phrasing). Help is appreciated. Thank you for the help. Ming Hi Ming, I don't have the time right now to give you a ready solution, but it's quite simple to do in LilyPond. As pphrasing slurs can only be done within one voice context you have to write the phrase in one voice. This voice will cross the staves with \change Staff = right (or left), while you should 'mute' the other voice with spacer rests. HTH Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff phrasing (slur)
Am 05.09.2013 01:42, schrieb MING TSANG: Hi, Urs and Helge Kruse (sorry Helge - don't have your email address) I managed to code cross staff phrasing with \change Staff = right or left with Helge's sample code. I added other cross staff slurs. Please refer to the attached. I coded bar 31, 35 and 121; but for bar 115 118 and 119 - I have time coding it. Help is appreciated. Sorry, I see your problems (you can't do these bars with only one voice), but it isn't evident what exactly you want to slur. In m. 114 for example the slur is simply in the left hand. Urs Thanks, Ming ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user