date:20130910

Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes:

 I had a look at your code and did some experiments.

 I was very surprised that the following seems to work (outputting pdf and 
 midi)

 myL =
 \layout {
   \context {
 \Staff
 \name MyCustomStaff
 \alias Staff
 \consists Pitch_squash_engraver
 squashedPosition = #0
 \override NoteHead #'style = #'slash
 \override Stem #'transparent = ##t
 \override Flag #'transparent = ##t
   }
   \context { \Score \accepts MyCustomStaff }
 }

 \score {
   
 \new Staff {
   c' d' e' f'
 }
 \new MyCustomStaff {
   c' d' e' f'
 }
   
   \midi { \myL }
 }

It doesn't output Midi for me.

 Is this really valid code?

If an output block _starts_ with an output definition, then this output
definition is cloned and is entirely responsible for the result;
otherwise $defaultlayout, $defaultmidi, $defaultpaper are used as
templates.  If the result is a layout block, then the result is used as
a layout block.  This is not exactly intuitive: it might make sense to
verify that the type of output definition matches what the syntax calls
for and give an error message otherwise.

The type of output definition is actually established rather flimsily:
there is a definition is-paper, is-midi or is-layout set to #t in the
output definition's module.

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Re: Question about autocompile bash script

2013-09-10 Thread ArnoldTheresius

Carl Peterson-2 wrote
Question for those who are familiar with linux bash shell scripting...

...

The question I have is whether it is possible to set up a similar script
to
trace a file's inclusion in other lilypond files and then compile
whenever an upstream file is loaded. My template/framework for hymn
settings uses discrete levels of file inclusions.
...
Thanks,
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I allready made a C program for Windows, which does a limited 'follow the
\include files' to examine the file dates. Finally it starts lilypond
(command line) if one of the source files found is newer than the resulting
PDF, otherwise it prompts for the question 'compile or not?'.
This program is limited to
- only files (source and result) in the current working directory are
examined
- the \include command must be the only one in the line (white space only
allowed at the left), exactly one space to the string start '' character
- \include commands inside a comment block ( '%{' to '%}' ) will be
examined, too.

Unfortunately, this program is specialized for my use. I did try (but not
complete) to implement some special features. There is very little
documentation in the source code.
Only if you have some experiance in C programming the source code can help -
but an experianced C programmer might be faster to build his own 'ly-newer'
command line program form scratch than by extending my program.

Feel free to ask for the C source code, if you are still interested.

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Re: Question about autocompile bash script

2013-09-10 Thread Jacques Menu

Hello Carl,

An approach could be to create a makefile containing:
- the rules to compile LP files to PDF (fixed part);
- the dependencies among LP files reflecting the presence of \include
in them (variable part).

Producing the makefile could be done by a script when your dropbox changes, and
you could then call make to compile whatever needs to be.

Le 10 sept. 2013 à 10:04:54, ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com a écrit
:

Carl Peterson-2 wrote
Question for those who are familiar with linux bash shell scripting...

...

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Re: Question about autocompile bash script

2013-09-10 Thread immanuel litzroth

If there were some kind of make-dep for lilypond it could even generate
these dependencies
automaticaly, like it happens for C (the compiler generates dependencies
when passed the
correct flags). This should not be too hard to brew up?
Immanuel

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jacques Menu jacques.m...@tvtmail.chwrote:

Hello Carl,

Producing the makefile could be done by a script when your dropbox
changes, and you could then call make to compile whatever needs to be.

Le 10 sept. 2013 à 10:04:54, ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com a
écrit :

Carl Peterson-2 wrote
Question for those who are familiar with linux bash shell scripting...

...

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I allready made a C program for Windows, which does a limited 'follow the
\include files' to examine the file dates. Finally it starts lilypond
(command line) if one of the source files found is newer than the
resulting
PDF, otherwise it prompts for the question 'compile or not?'.
This program is limited to
- only files (source and result) in the current working directory are
examined
- the \include command must be the only one in the line (white space only
allowed at the left), exactly one space to the string start '' character
- \include commands inside a comment block ( '%{' to '%}' ) will be
examined, too.

Unfortunately, this program is specialized for my use. I did try (but not
complete) to implement some special features. There is very little
documentation in the source code.
Only if you have some experiance in C programming the source code can
help -
but an experianced C programmer might be faster to build his own
'ly-newer'
command line program form scratch than by extending my program.

Feel free to ask for the C source code, if you are still interested.

ArnoldTheresius

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whole notes are differently aligned with different styles

2013-09-10 Thread Eluze

while discussing
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Notehead-of-harmonic-whole-note-too-narrow-td150520.html
Noeck detected that the alignment of normal, harmonic and harmonic-mixed
notes in a chord is different

http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n150559/test5.png   test5.ly
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n150559/test5.ly  

while the ledger line of the normal note head touches the stem of the grace
note before, the ledger lines of the harmonic heads are distinctly apart.
the harmonic-mixed note head seems to be shifted right

Eluze






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Re: Question about autocompile bash script

2013-09-10 Thread Yann

Hello all :)

Just my 2cts contribution : I also had the same kind of requirement
(for an hymnbook project), only difference is I use a mercurial
repository instead of dropbox. When pushing changes to the repository,
it launches a command in bash (with a hook) running make in every
directory where a makefile exists.

The command for this is quite simple and just :
find path_to_directory -type f -name 'Makefile' -execdir make \;

Then I have a series of makefiles tailored to do what I want. Most of
the dependencies are deduced directly from the \include directives in
the main files (plus some other fixed depending on hymn template).
File structure is also scattered (different versions with common
parts, lyrics, melody, chords, voices...)

So what happens is that every time changes are pushed on the server,
make is called for each song, but exits quickly when no changes are
found and only launches lilypond if necessary.

I can give those makefiles if one is interested.

Yann


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 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:22:24 +0200
 From: immanuel litzroth ilitzr...@gmail.com
 To: Jacques Menu jacques.m...@tvtmail.ch
 Cc: ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com, lilypond-user
 lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Question about autocompile bash script
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 If there were some kind of make-dep for lilypond it could even generate
 these dependencies
 automaticaly, like it happens for C (the compiler generates dependencies
 when passed the
 correct flags). This should not be too hard to brew up?
 Immanuel


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jacques Menu jacques.m...@tvtmail.chwrote:

  Hello Carl,
 
  An approach could be to create a makefile containing:
  - the rules to compile LP files to PDF (fixed part);
  - the dependencies among LP files reflecting the presence of
  \include in them (variable part).
 
  Producing the makefile could be done by a script when your dropbox
  changes, and you could then call make to compile whatever needs to be.
 
  JM
 
  Le 10 sept. 2013 ? 10:04:54, ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com a
  ?crit :
 
   Carl Peterson-2 wrote
   Question for those who are familiar with linux bash shell scripting...
  
   ...
  
   The question I have is whether it is possible to set up a similar script
   to
   trace a file's inclusion in other lilypond files and then compile
   whenever an upstream file is loaded. My template/framework for hymn
   settings uses discrete levels of file inclusions.
   ...
   Thanks,
   Carl
  
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   I allready made a C program for Windows, which does a limited 'follow the
   \include files' to examine the file dates. Finally it starts lilypond
   (command line) if one of the source files found is newer than the
  resulting
   PDF, otherwise it prompts for the question 'compile or not?'.
   This program is limited to
   - only files (source and result) in the current working directory are
   examined
   - the \include command must be the only one in the line (white space only
   allowed at the left), exactly one space to the string start '' character
   - \include commands inside a comment block ( '%{' to '%}' ) will be
   examined, too.
  
   Unfortunately, this program is specialized for my use. I did try (but not
   complete) to implement some special features. There is very little
   documentation in the source code.
   Only if you have some experiance in C programming the source code can
  help -
   but an experianced C programmer might be faster to build his own
  'ly-newer'
   command line program form scratch than by extending my program.
  
   Feel free to ask for the C source code, if you are still interested.
  
   ArnoldTheresius
  
  
  

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Midi equalisation

2013-09-10 Thread Hilary Snaden

This (trimmed) example doesn't work as the documentation suggests it
should, in this case to reduce the volume of the organ relative to the
voices. Changing the volume values makes no difference at all. \dyns
contains dynamics for the organ, each voice part has its own dynamics.
Am I missing something?

\score {
  
\new Staff = v1 {
  \set Staff.midiInstrument = #choir aahs
  \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0.8
  \set Staff.midiMinimumVolume = #0.4
  \new Voice { \transpose d f \musicsoprano }
}
\new Staff = v5 {
  \set Staff.midiInstrument = #church organ
  \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0.4
  \set Staff.midiMinimumVolume = #0.2
  \new Voice { \transpose d f \upper }
}
\new Voice = v7 { \dyns }
\new Voice = tempi {
  \tempo 4.=84
}
  
  \midi { }
}

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Re: Midi equalisation

Hilary Snaden h...@newearth.demon.co.uk writes:

 This (trimmed) example doesn't work as the documentation suggests it
 should, in this case to reduce the volume of the organ relative to the
 voices. Changing the volume values makes no difference at all. \dyns
 contains dynamics for the organ, each voice part has its own dynamics.
 Am I missing something?

 \score {
   
 \new Staff = v1 {
   \set Staff.midiInstrument = #choir aahs
   \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0.8
   \set Staff.midiMinimumVolume = #0.4
   \new Voice { \transpose d f \musicsoprano }
 }
 \new Staff = v5 {
   \set Staff.midiInstrument = #church organ
   \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0.4
   \set Staff.midiMinimumVolume = #0.2
   \new Voice { \transpose d f \upper }
 }
 \new Voice = v7 { \dyns }
 \new Voice = tempi {
   \tempo 4.=84
 }
   
   \midi { }
 }

An actual dynamic?  I think the min/max values only take to flight when
specifying a dynamic.

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[ANNOUNCE] New Portfile for Frescobaldi on Mac

2013-09-10 Thread Davide Liessi

Dear Mac OS X Frescobaldi users,

[from http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-09/msg00030.html]
 I am currently fine tuning a new version of the Portfile that
 automatically creates also the application bundle.
 I just need to test it on 10.7 and 10.8 machines (I run 10.6 and have
 occasional access to those machines) and then I'll publish it into the
 master branch of my repository.
 I'll announce to the list when this will happen (in a couple of days, I hope).

I am pleased to announce that a new version of my Portfiles for
Frescobaldi installation through MacPorts is publicly available in my
GitHub repository (https://github.com/dliessi/ports).

New features include the possibility to build a clickable application
bundle and the inclusion of some useful patches for system language
handling and automatic detection of default LilyPond installation.

You'll find instructions on how to install/upgrade in my repository's home page.
If you need further instructions or if you run into any problems,
don't hesitate to contact me, either sending me an email message or
opening an issue on GitHub (https://github.com/dliessi/ports/issues).

I would like to publicly thank Stefan Vollmar for his help in testing
my Portfiles.

Best wishes.
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Re: Question about autocompile bash script

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:22 AM, immanuel litzroth ilitzr...@gmail.comwrote:

 If there were some kind of make-dep for lilypond it could even generate
 these dependencies
 automaticaly, like it happens for C (the compiler generates dependencies
 when passed the
 correct flags). This should not be too hard to brew up?
 Immanuel


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jacques Menu jacques.m...@tvtmail.chwrote:

 Hello Carl,

 An approach could be to create a makefile containing:
 - the rules to compile LP files to PDF (fixed part);
 - the dependencies among LP files reflecting the presence of
 \include in them (variable part).

 Producing the makefile could be done by a script when your dropbox
 changes, and you could then call make to compile whatever needs to be.

 JM

 Le 10 sept. 2013 à 10:04:54, ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com
 a écrit :
  I allready made a C program for Windows, which does a limited 'follow
 the
  \include files' to examine the file dates. Finally it starts lilypond
  (command line) if one of the source files found is newer than the
 resulting
  PDF, otherwise it prompts for the question 'compile or not?'.
  This program is limited to
  - only files (source and result) in the current working directory are
  examined
  - the \include command must be the only one in the line (white space
 only
  allowed at the left), exactly one space to the string start ''
 character
  - \include commands inside a comment block ( '%{' to '%}' ) will be
  examined, too.
 
  Unfortunately, this program is specialized for my use. I did try (but
 not
  complete) to implement some special features. There is very little
  documentation in the source code.
  Only if you have some experiance in C programming the source code can
 help -
  but an experianced C programmer might be faster to build his own
 'ly-newer'
  command line program form scratch than by extending my program.
 
  Feel free to ask for the C source code, if you are still interested.
 


These are along the lines of what I was thinking of. I don't have any
experience with C. My programming experience as of late is in PHP. So I
gave some thought last night to using it to read the files and trace the
\include dependencies. I haven't had a chance to put any code down, but
I'll probably take a look at that option.

The thing that was undesirable on the makefile idea in general is that
having to maintain a makefile seems like an unnecessary redundancy. That
is, not only do I have to reference these files in the actual LilyPond
sources, but also make sure that I add the dependency information to this
other file. This seems like it would lead to synchronization issues if I
change which file I use in the .ly file, but not the makefile.

What I'm considering from the dynamic makefile angle (which I hadn't
considered prior to this discussion) is to have a trigger on all the
subfolders that will pass the file name to php, which will follow the known
dependency paths (music and lyrics to setting, setting to target format) to
build a list of files which need to be recompiled. I suppose I could call
lilypond from the php code, but I could also theoretically have it
construct the makefile. This would overcome the possible race condition
that exists if I use cascading monitors on each folder (for example, if I
update a global file, every final output file would need to be recompiled,
but if I use a touch command to trigger updates, I think some would be
missed.

The other advantage with PHP is that hopefully and eventually, this is
going to go to a database-driven workflow using PHP, where definitions are
all going to database entries to be generated on the fly as anything is
updated.

Regards,
Carl
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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Phil Holmes

Could you attach the problematic code, please?

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Joshua Nichols 
  To: Mailinglist lilypond-user 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
  Subject: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:

\layout {
#(layout-set-staff-size 15)
  }I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores 
(SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff size, 
my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.

  This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple 
things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.

  See attached for a visual.

  IC,

  Josh

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Skip to Specific Bar

\version 2.16.2
I'm writing a frenched score which has large gaps between the reappearance
of some staves. The piece is stuffed full of time signature changes, so I'm
hoping to find a way to skip input by a specified number of bars, or to a
specific bar. The only method I know is by inserting spacers or rests up to
where you want to start putting in notes, but this will take forever with a
piece like this. 





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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Carl! Should the myStaffSize be inside a #() or unspecified?


It is outside a Scheme context, so:

\paper {
 myStaffSize = #22
}
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Re:Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:41:49 +0100
 From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
 To: Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com,  Mailinglist
   lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 Message-ID: 5BFCF5FF54814E1EA940594E7D0D45D1@Advent
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Could you attach the problematic code, please?

I think this is an old and very strange problem, which is illustrated by the 
following code

\version 2.16.2
music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }

\score {
\new Staff {\music}
\layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 80)}
}

\score {
\new Staff {\music }
\layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 5)}
}

It's difficult to see why anyone thinks that this (mis)function should even be 
in LilyPond.  The strangeness is only exacerbated by the fact that it's 
documented at the end of section 4.2.2 (Setting the Staff Size) in the 2.16 
Notation Reference:

Known issues and warnings

layout-set-staff-size does not change the distance between the staff lines. 

Maybe the documentation should address how the staff size can be changed 
without changing the distance between the staff lines.

 --
 Phil Holmes

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joshua Nichols 
  To: Mailinglist lilypond-user 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
  Subject: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:

 \layout {
#(layout-set-staff-size 15)
  }I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores 
 (SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff 
 size, my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.

  This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple 
 things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.

  See attached for a visual.

  IC,

  Josh

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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Eluze

well - I think it's described somewhere inta manual. here's a little 
function to facilitate the change of those 3 values:


staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
#{
  \set fontSize = #new-size
  \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
  \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
#})
music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }
\new Staff \with {\staffSize #-16 } \music
\score {
  \new Staff \with {\staffSize #16 }   \music
}

hth
Eluze


Am 10.09.2013 18:35, schrieb Patrick or Cynthia Karl:

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:41:49 +0100
From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
To: Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com,Mailinglist
lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
Message-ID: 5BFCF5FF54814E1EA940594E7D0D45D1@Advent
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Could you attach the problematic code, please?

I think this is an old and very strange problem, which is illustrated by the 
following code

\version 2.16.2
music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }
  
\score {

\new Staff {\music}
\layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 80)}
}

\score {
\new Staff {\music }
\layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 5)}
}

It's difficult to see why anyone thinks that this (mis)function should even be 
in LilyPond.  The strangeness is only exacerbated by the fact that it's 
documented at the end of section 4.2.2 (Setting the Staff Size) in the 2.16 
Notation Reference:

Known issues and warnings

layout-set-staff-size does not change the distance between the staff lines.


Maybe the documentation should address how the staff size can be changed 
without changing the distance between the staff lines.


--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message -
  From: Joshua Nichols
  To: Mailinglist lilypond-user
  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
  Subject: Overall (global) resizing difficulties


  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:


\layout {
#(layout-set-staff-size 15)
  }I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores 
(SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff size, 
my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.


  This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple 
things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.


  See attached for a visual.




  IC,

  Josh






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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Joshua Nichols

Thanks Carl! Should the myStaffSize be inside a #() or unspecified?

IC,

Josh


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.comwrote:

 Replying to group since I forgot to the first time...
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Carl Peterson 
 carlopeter...@gmail.comwrote:

 I use #(set-global-staff-size __) at the top oc the document and
 myStaffSize = #__ in the paper block. Usually I have to play with the two
 to find the right combination of staff size and symbol size. Not sure if
 it's strictly necessary to do both, but since I define custom fonts for my
 documents, I seem to remember both being required for that.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Joshua Nichols 
 josh.d.nich...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, I've tried to find where it stops doing this, but I
 cannot provide a small snippet. I'm not sure where it happens... I am happy
 to forward the attached .ly file for you to fiddle with.

 I'm sorry I can't specify a tiny example. I've tried and am getting a
 little frustrated (maybe fresh eyes would help).

 IC,

 Josh


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 **
 Could you attach the problematic code, please?

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 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com
 *To:* Mailinglist lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
 *Subject:* Overall (global) resizing difficulties

  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:

 \layout {
 #(layout-set-staff-size 15)
   }

 I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores
 (SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff
 size, my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.

 This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple
 things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.

 See attached for a visual.


  IC,

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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:

 Unfortunately, I've tried to find where it stops doing this, but I cannot
 provide a small snippet. I'm not sure where it happens... I am happy to
 forward the attached .ly file for you to fiddle with.

 I'm sorry I can't specify a tiny example. I've tried and am getting a
 little frustrated (maybe fresh eyes would help).

 \paper {
   #(set-paper-size Hymn)
   page-count = #1
   #(layout-set-staff-size 12)
   #(define fonts
  (make-pango-font-tree Book Antiqua
Nimbus Sans
Luxi Mono
(/ 20 20)))
 }

Cough, cough.  You explicitly require your fonts to be suitable for 20
points here.  Either remove the font definition, or at least use a scale
factor of 12/20 instead of 20/20.

-- 
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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Hi Ed,

 I'm writing a frenched score which has large gaps between the reappearance
 of some staves. The piece is stuffed full of time signature changes, so I'm
 hoping to find a way to skip input by a specified number of bars, or to a
 specific bar. The only method I know is by inserting spacers or rests up to
 where you want to start putting in notes, but this will take forever with a
 piece like this.

Look in the docs for \pushToTag and \appendToTag, just above 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/different-editions-from-one-source#using-global-settings.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Joshua Nichols

Unfortunately, I've tried to find where it stops doing this, but I cannot
provide a small snippet. I'm not sure where it happens... I am happy to
forward the attached .ly file for you to fiddle with.

I'm sorry I can't specify a tiny example. I've tried and am getting a
little frustrated (maybe fresh eyes would help).

IC,

Josh


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 Could you attach the problematic code, please?

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 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com
 *To:* Mailinglist lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
 *Subject:* Overall (global) resizing difficulties

  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:

 \layout {
 #(layout-set-staff-size 15)
   }

 I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores
 (SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff
 size, my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.

 This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple
 things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.

 See attached for a visual.


  IC,

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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

2013-09-10 Thread Stefan Thomas

Dear Ed,
I have often similar problems like You.
My solution is not ideal, but I hope, it helps  You a bit:

\version 2.16.2
globalA = {
  \time 4/4 s1
}
globalB = {
  \time 3/4 s2.
  \time 4/4 s1
  \time 5/4 s4*5
}
globalC = {
  \time 4/4 s1
}
global = {
 \globalA
 \globalB
 \globalC
}
firstStaff = \relative c' {
  c4 d e f
  c4 d e
  c4 d e f
  c4 d e f g
  c,1.
}
secondStaff = {
  \clef bass
  c1
   $(mmrest-of-length globalB)
   c1.
}

\score {
  
  \new Devnull \global
  \new StaffGroup 
   \new Staff \firstStaff
   \new Staff \secondStaff
 

}

\version 2.16.2
 I'm writing a frenched score which has large gaps between the reappearance
 of some staves. The piece is stuffed full of time signature changes, so I'm
 hoping to find a way to skip input by a specified number of bars, or to a
 specific bar. The only method I know is by inserting spacers or rests up to
 where you want to start putting in notes, but this will take forever with a
 piece like this.

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Re: Extended mensuration signs in markup via Scheme

On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 04:39 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:

 Inside of markups, you can't use functions defined with
 define-scheme-function (their argument parsing is just not compatible
 with markup mode).  Check out define-markup-command instead.
 
 As a note aside: case can't be used with strings as (eqv? x x) = #f



David, many thanks.  A few hours reading and programming later, and I'm
nearly there.

#(define-markup-command (mensSign layout props text) (markup?)
  Create the markup for an extended list of mensuration signs
  (interpret-markup layout props
(if (string=? text C)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural44))
%..
)))

mensuration = #(define-music-function (P L mensuralTimesig .)
  (string? .)
#{ \mark \markup {
\concat {
\mensSign mensuralTimesig  
 (
%

cantusMusic = \relative c' {
%.
\mensuration #C  %

This code is compiling successfully, but with two instances of
programming error: Object is not a markup.
However, if I edit the mensuration function and replace

\mensSign mensuralTimesig

with

\mensSign C

the errors disappear and everything works beautifully.  Utterly
baffling!  I'd be grateful for any hints from you or any other guru.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Portfile for Frescobaldi on Mac

2013-09-10 Thread Derek

That is freaking awesome and a breeze to install. Thanks!



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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Hi all,

 What Kieren mentioned is new to me too and I would be curious see, how one 
 can use these commands in a context You've mentioned.

 The idea is as seen in the snippet, below, where certain music is added at 
 the coda, using tags.
 Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work.
 David K: What do I need to change in this snippet to get it to work as 
 expected?

Quoting the manual:

   Sometimes you want to splice some music at a particular place in an
existing music expression.  You can use `\pushToTag' and `\appendToTag'
for adding material at the front or end of the `elements' of an
existing music construct.  Not every music construct has `elements',
but sequential and simultaneous music are safe bets:

 global = {
   \tag #'intro
 \time 4/4 s1*3
 \time 3/4 s4*3
   \tag #'verse
 \time 5/4 s4*5*12
   \tag #'bridge
 s4*5
 \time 4/4 s1
   \tag #'coda
 \time 2/2 s1*9
   \bar |.
 }

But you don't tag sequential or simultaneous music here, but rather
\time statements.

Writing \tag #'code  \time 2/2 
is likely what you intend here.

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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Hi all,

 What Kieren mentioned is new to me too and I would be curious see,
 how one can use these commands in a context You've mentioned.

 The idea is as seen in the snippet, below, where certain music is
 added at the coda, using tags.
 Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work.
 David K: What do I need to change in this snippet to get it to work as 
 expected?

 Quoting the manual:

Sometimes you want to splice some music at a particular place in an
 existing music expression.  You can use `\pushToTag' and `\appendToTag'
 for adding material at the front or end of the `elements' of an
 existing music construct.  Not every music construct has `elements',
 but sequential and simultaneous music are safe bets:

 global = {
   \tag #'intro
 \time 4/4 s1*3
 \time 3/4 s4*3
   \tag #'verse
 \time 5/4 s4*5*12
   \tag #'bridge
 s4*5
 \time 4/4 s1
   \tag #'coda
 \time 2/2 s1*9
   \bar |.
 }

 But you don't tag sequential or simultaneous music here, but rather
 \time statements.

 Writing \tag #'code  \time 2/2 
 is likely what you intend here.

Actually, more likely \tag #'coda  { \time 2/2 s1*9 }  so that
additional material will sit in parallel with the s1*9.

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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

See David Kastrup's answer. You have to change the one in the font tree as
well.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am getting no response with this method. Things are still odd...
 HOWEVER! When I changed to the default Text Font (eliminating the modified
 font tree), I got a normal response... So perhaps it is a bug? Or am I
 missing something?

 IC,

 Josh


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Carl Peterson 
 carlopeter...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Thanks Carl! Should the myStaffSize be inside a #() or unspecified?


 It is outside a Scheme context, so:

 \paper {
  myStaffSize = #22
 }



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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

Replying to group since I forgot to the first time...
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.comwrote:

 I use #(set-global-staff-size __) at the top oc the document and
 myStaffSize = #__ in the paper block. Usually I have to play with the two
 to find the right combination of staff size and symbol size. Not sure if
 it's strictly necessary to do both, but since I define custom fonts for my
 documents, I seem to remember both being required for that.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Unfortunately, I've tried to find where it stops doing this, but I cannot
 provide a small snippet. I'm not sure where it happens... I am happy to
 forward the attached .ly file for you to fiddle with.

 I'm sorry I can't specify a tiny example. I've tried and am getting a
 little frustrated (maybe fresh eyes would help).

 IC,

 Josh


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 **
 Could you attach the problematic code, please?

 --
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 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com
 *To:* Mailinglist lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
 *Subject:* Overall (global) resizing difficulties

  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:

 \layout {
 #(layout-set-staff-size 15)
   }

 I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores
 (SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff
 size, my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.

 This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple
 things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.

 See attached for a visual.


  IC,

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Re: Extended mensuration signs in markup via Scheme

Many thanks David,  

On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 20:01 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:


  mensuration = #(define-music-function (P L mensuralTimesig .)
(string? .)
  #{ \mark \markup {
  \concat {
  \mensSign mensuralTimesig  
 
 You probably mean \mensSign #mensuralTimesig here.

Yes, I probably did :-)

I've posted the resulting code in the original thread switching between
halved and full note values in the fond hope that it might be some use
to others.  Comments/criticism (of the improving sort) welcome.
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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Thanks for your answers thus far.

Kieren I think I understand the concept but I can't see a way of making that
work for what I'm doing. 

Stefan likewise I think I understand but does that mean that I would need to
type out the full time signature sequence which I could then reuse for other
parts?





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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Hi all,

 What Kieren mentioned is new to me too and I would be curious see, how one 
 can use these commands in a context You've mentioned.

The idea is as seen in the snippet, below, where certain music is added at the 
coda, using tags.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work.
David K: What do I need to change in this snippet to get it to work as expected?

Thanks,
Kieren.

__

\version 2.16.2

\layout {
  \context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
  }
}

global = {
  \tag #'intro
\time 4/4 s1*3
\time 3/4 s4*3
  \tag #'verse
\time 5/4 s4*5*12
  \tag #'bridge
s4*5
\time 4/4 s1
  \tag #'coda
\time 2/2 s1*9
  \bar |.
}

allMusic = \relative c' {
  \repeat unfold 120 { c4 }
}

codaMusic = \relative f {
  \pushToTag #'coda
\repeat unfold 6 { f2 }
\global
}

\score {
  
\new Staff  \global \allMusic 
\new Staff  \codaMusic 
  
}
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Re: switching between halved and full note values

Many thanks to David for his help, here and in another thread.

This all started with the differing preferences of singers of polyphony,
some preferring scores in original note values, and some wanting reduced
values.  Personally, I'll sing from anything, but I like to enter music
into lilypond using halved note values, for conciseness.

The end result is the code attached to this message[1].  Music entered
in halved note values can be printed in full, halved, or quartered
values by setting the reduction factor at line 6.  The original mensural
clefs, from a somewhat extended repertoire (see the mensSign function),
are printed at each change of mensuration, together with an indication
of the proportional tempo change (which is automatically reflected in
the midi output, thanks to the articulate.ly script of Peter Chubb).

There is no attempt to automate the correlation between the tempo change
and the new mensuration.

I hope the code is of use to others.  It uses a current version of
lilypond so I cannot submit it as a snippet (it's probably too long
anyway).  If you have a play with RF (line 6), TACTUS (line 8), and
\mensuration (lines 181, 186, 188) you'll soon get the idea.

-- Graham King
[1] the entire Credo from the Missa Rapum Meum by Baldrick.
\version 2.16.0

\include articulate.ly

% Reduction Factor from original notation:
#(define RF 2) % 1 for note values of original MS, 2 for halved, 4 for 
quartered, etc.

#(define TACTUS 50) % initial tempo in beats/minute, used by 
tempoWholesPerMinute

% set the initial tempo here so that it has global scope.  
% It is first used in the midi score block:
% (the first number after ly:make-moment is beats-per-minute,
% with the tactus on the MS semibreve)
currentTempo = #(ly:make-moment TACTUS RF)
newTempo = #currentTempo % initialise for first call to mensuration function.

% define noteName association list (alist):
#(define noteName '((4 . maxima.)
(6 . maxima)
(8 . longa.)
(12 . longa)
(16 . breve.)
(24 . breve)
(32 . 1.)
(48 . 1)
(64 . 2.)
(96 . 2)
(128 . 4.)
(192 . 4)
(256 . 8.)
(384 . 8)
(512 . 16.)
(768 . 16)
(1024 . 32.)
(1536 . 32)
(2048 . 64.)
(3072 . 64)
(4096 . 128.)
(6144 . 128)))
% the list of inverted pairs: ((maxima . 4) .) :
#(define invNoteName (map (lambda(s) (cons(cdr s) (car s))) noteName))

#(define-markup-command (mensSign layout props text) (markup?)
  Create the markup for an extended list of mensuration signs.
  % Grateful acknowledgment to David Kastrup for Scheme help.
  (interpret-markup layout props
(if (string=? text C)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural44))
(if (string=? text cutC)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural22))
(if (string=? text Cdot)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural64))
(if (string=? text cutCdot)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural68))
(if (string=? text O)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural32))
(if (string=? text cutO)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural34))
(if (string=? text cutOdot)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural98))
(if (string=? text revC)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural24))
(if (string=? text revCdot)
  (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural68alt))
(if (string=? text C3/2)
  (markup (#:line ((markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural44))
   (#:fontsize -4 #:column (3 2))
  )))
(if (string=? text cutC3/2)
  (markup (#:line ((markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural22))
   (#:fontsize -4 #:column (3 2))
  )))
(if (string=? text C3)
  (markup (#:line ((markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural44))
   (#:fontsize 0 #:raise -1 3))
  ))
(if (string=? text C2)
  (markup (#:line ((markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural44))
   (#:fontsize 0 #:raise -1 2))
  ))
(if (string=? text O2)
  (markup (#:line ((markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural32))
   (#:fontsize 0 #:raise -1 2))
  ))
(if (string=? text 3)
  (markup (#:fontsize 0 #:raise -1 3))
)))
  )
)
   
% Debugging: display a moment plus some text.
% Returns its moment argument so can be used in-line.
#(define (display-moment  text m)
  (display text)
  (display (list (ly:moment-main-numerator m) / (ly:moment-main-denominator 
m)))
  m
)

% mensuration function by GK.  Usage:
%\mensuration mensuralTimesig oldNote newNote newTimeNum newTimeDenom
%produces: X (old = new)
%  T
%where X is

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Portfile for Frescobaldi on Mac

2013-09-10 Thread Stan Sanderson

Installation was very easy and almost everything is working. However, in order 
to use MIDI, I still have to manually start Qsynth to provide Frescobaldi with 
a fluidsynth output port. Is there a simple way to bypass this step or automate 
it from within Frescobaldi?

Stan

On Sep 10, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Mac OS X Frescobaldi users,
 
 [from http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-09/msg00030.html]
 I am currently fine tuning a new version of the Portfile that
 automatically creates also the application bundle.
 I just need to test it on 10.7 and 10.8 machines (I run 10.6 and have
 occasional access to those machines) and then I'll publish it into the
 master branch of my repository.
 I'll announce to the list when this will happen (in a couple of days, I 
 hope).
 
 I am pleased to announce that a new version of my Portfiles for
 Frescobaldi installation through MacPorts is publicly available in my
 GitHub repository (https://github.com/dliessi/ports).
 
 New features include the possibility to build a clickable application
 bundle and the inclusion of some useful patches for system language
 handling and automatic detection of default LilyPond installation.
 
 You'll find instructions on how to install/upgrade in my repository's home 
 page.
 If you need further instructions or if you run into any problems,
 don't hesitate to contact me, either sending me an email message or
 opening an issue on GitHub (https://github.com/dliessi/ports/issues).
 
 I would like to publicly thank Stefan Vollmar for his help in testing
 my Portfiles.
 
 Best wishes.
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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:56:09 +0200
 From: Eluze elu...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
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 well - I think it's described somewhere inta manual. here's a little 
 function to facilitate the change of those 3 values:

What does it refer to here?  

 staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
 #{
   \set fontSize = #new-size
   \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
   \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
 #})
 music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }
 \new Staff \with {\staffSize #-16 } \music
 \score {
   \new Staff \with {\staffSize #16 }   \music
 }

I am afraid I don't understand the function of the staffSize function.  The 
following snippet produces four identical, to my eyes, outputs:

   B e g i n S n i p p e t   
\version 2.16.2

music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }

\new Staff \music 

\score {
\new Staff \music 
}

staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
#{
  \set fontSize = #new-size
  \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
  \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
#})

\new Staff \with {\staffSize #-16 } \music

\score {
  \new Staff \with {\staffSize #16 }   \music
}
  E n d S n i p p e t   

What would a new-size value of -16 mean?

Does anyone not agree with me that layout-set-staff-size is nonsensical and 
nonworking?  And that the documentation should document exactly what it does?  
and how the staff size can be changed without changing the distance between 
staff lines?  (I feel like I'm in a Kafka novel here.)

 hth
 Eluze

 Am 10.09.2013 18:35, schrieb Patrick or Cynthia Karl:
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:41:49 +0100
 From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
 To: Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com,Mailinglist
 lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 Message-ID: 5BFCF5FF54814E1EA940594E7D0D45D1@Advent
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Could you attach the problematic code, please?
 I think this is an old and very strange problem, which is illustrated by the 
 following code

 \version 2.16.2
 music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }

 \score {
  \new Staff {\music}
  \layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 80)}
 }

 \score {
  \new Staff {\music }
  \layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 5)}
 }

 It's difficult to see why anyone thinks that this (mis)function should even 
 be in LilyPond.  The strangeness is only exacerbated by the fact that it's 
 documented at the end of section 4.2.2 (Setting the Staff Size) in the 2.16 
 Notation Reference:

 Known issues and warnings

 layout-set-staff-size does not change the distance between the staff lines.

 Maybe the documentation should address how the staff size can be changed 
 without changing the distance between the staff lines.

 --
 Phil Holmes

  - Original Message -
  From: Joshua Nichols
  To: Mailinglist lilypond-user
  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
  Subject: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:

 \layout {
#(layout-set-staff-size 15)
  }I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores 
 (SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff 
 size, my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.

  This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple 
 things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.

  See attached for a visual.

  IC,

  Josh

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 Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:

 Unfortunately, I've tried to find where it stops doing this, but I cannot
 provide a small snippet. I'm not sure where it happens... I am happy to
 forward the attached .ly file for you to fiddle with.

 I'm sorry I can't specify a tiny example. I've tried and am getting a
 little frustrated (maybe fresh eyes would help).

 \paper {
  #(set-paper-size Hymn)
  page-count = #1
  #(layout-set-staff-size 12)
  #(define fonts
 (make-pango-font-tree Book Antiqua
   Nimbus Sans
   Luxi Mono

Re: switching between halved and full note values

On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 20:43 +0100, Graham King wrote:

 The original mensural clefs, 

Uh, I did of course mean, The original mensuration signs...
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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Hi David,

Thanks! That does the trick.

Below is the snippet as I was envisioning it. I believe it satisfies the OP 
request:

 I'm writing a frenched score which has large gaps between the reappearance
 of some staves. The piece is stuffed full of time signature changes, so I'm
 hoping to find a way to skip input by a specified number of bars, or to a
 specific bar. The only method I know is by inserting spacers or rests up to
 where you want to start putting in notes, but this will take forever with a
 piece like this. 


Hope it helps!
Kieren.
_

\version 2.16.2

\layout {
  \context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
  }
}

global = {
  \tag #'intro
 \time 4/4 s1*3 
 \time 3/4 s4*3 
  \tag #'verse
 \time 5/4 s4*5*12 
  \tag #'bridge
 s4*5 
 \time 4/4 s1 
  \tag #'coda
 \time 2/2 s1*9 
  \bar |.
}

allMusic = \relative c' {
  \repeat unfold 120 { c4 }
}

codaMusic = \relative f {
\repeat unfold 6 { f2 }
}

\score {
  
\new Staff  \global \allMusic 
\new Staff \pushToTag #'coda \codaMusic \global
  
}
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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

I've tried it and not succeeded with it so far, but before I copy and paste
code here, can I ask what the \global tag is doing in your snippet? It seems
to me like it's laying out a map of the time signature change in a piece. Is
this the recommended way to go about this? Up till now I've just written all
the time changes into the first staff as I put the notes in. 



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Re: midi doesn't work with custom Voice contexts

2013-09-10 Thread Thomas Morley

2013/9/10 Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com:
 Hi David,


 David Nalesnik-2 wrote
 I've never been able to edit my snippets after they have been approved.
 What you can do is post a new snippet: copy the old one, change it, and
 give it a title like Defining a Custom Staff Context [corrected].  The
 person who reviews it will then replace the old one.

 Ah, right!  I had forgotten that.  Thanks for the reminder.  I just uploaded
 the improved version here:
 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=888

 Thanks again!
 -Paul

Snippets exchanged.
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=882

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

2013-09-10 Thread Stefan Thomas

Dear Ed,
You would *once* type out the full time signature sequence in a variable.
You could use then the  $(mmrest-of-length variable)-construct in as many
voices You need.
What Kieren mentioned is new to me too and I would be curious see, how one
can use these commands in a context You've mentioned.




Thanks for your answers thus far.

 Kieren I think I understand the concept but I can't see a way of making
 that
 work for what I'm doing.

 Stefan likewise I think I understand but does that mean that I would need
 to
 type out the full time signature sequence which I could then reuse for
 other
 parts?

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Re: Extended mensuration signs in markup via Scheme

Graham King lilyp...@tremagi.org.uk writes:

 On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 04:39 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:

 Inside of markups, you can't use functions defined with
 define-scheme-function (their argument parsing is just not compatible
 with markup mode).  Check out define-markup-command instead.
 
 As a note aside: case can't be used with strings as (eqv? x x) = #f



 David, many thanks.  A few hours reading and programming later, and I'm
 nearly there.

 #(define-markup-command (mensSign layout props text) (markup?)
   Create the markup for an extended list of mensuration signs
   (interpret-markup layout props
 (if (string=? text C)

Since you use an argument of markup?, you might want to use equal?
instead of string=? here.  Otherwise, if the argument is something like
\box { f }
you get into trouble.

   (markup (#:musicglyph timesig.mensural44))
 %..
 )))

 mensuration = #(define-music-function (P L mensuralTimesig .)
   (string? .)
 #{ \mark \markup {
 \concat {
 \mensSign mensuralTimesig  

You probably mean \mensSign #mensuralTimesig here.

  (
 %

 cantusMusic = \relative c' {
 %.
 \mensuration #C  %

 This code is compiling successfully, but with two instances of
 programming error: Object is not a markup.

Probably because of what you return when
(if (string=? mensuralTimesig C) ...
goes into the else part.

 However, if I edit the mensuration function and replace

 \mensSign mensuralTimesig

 with

 \mensSign C

 the errors disappear and everything works beautifully.

Note that \mensSign mensuralTimesig is the same as \mensSign mensuralTimesig
and probably not what you expected.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Joshua Nichols

I am getting no response with this method. Things are still odd... HOWEVER!
When I changed to the default Text Font (eliminating the modified font
tree), I got a normal response... So perhaps it is a bug? Or am I missing
something?

IC,

Josh


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Joshua Nichols 
 josh.d.nich...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Carl! Should the myStaffSize be inside a #() or unspecified?


 It is outside a Scheme context, so:

 \paper {
  myStaffSize = #22
 }

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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Thomas Morley

2013/9/11 Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com:

 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:56:09 +0200
 From: Eluze elu...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

 well - I think it's described somewhere inta manual. here's a little
 function to facilitate the change of those 3 values:

 What does it refer to here?

 staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
 #{
   \set fontSize = #new-size
   \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
   \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
 #})
 music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }
 \new Staff \with {\staffSize #-16 } \music
 \score {
   \new Staff \with {\staffSize #16 }   \music
 }

 I am afraid I don't understand the function of the staffSize function.  The 
 following snippet produces four identical, to my eyes, outputs:

    B e g i n S n i p p e t   
 \version 2.16.2

 music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }

 \new Staff \music

 \score {
 \new Staff \music
 }

 staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
 #{
   \set fontSize = #new-size
   \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
   \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
 #})

 \new Staff \with {\staffSize #-16 } \music

 \score {
   \new Staff \with {\staffSize #16 }   \music
 }
   E n d S n i p p e t   

Eluze's example works --- with 2.17.25

For 2.16.2 you could use:

\version 2.16.2

music = \relative c' { c d e f }

staffSize = #(define-scheme-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
#{
  \with {
fontSize = #new-size
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
\override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
  }
#})

\new Staff \with { \staffSize #-16 } \music

\new Staff \with { \staffSize #16 }   \music

 What would a new-size value of -16 mean?

Well, what does \fontsize #16 (#-16) do in \markup? Making it larger (smaller).
Here fontSize, 'staff-space and 'thickness of the lines are modified.
I feel I don't get the point of the question.

 Does anyone not agree with me that layout-set-staff-size is nonsensical and 
 nonworking?  And that the documentation should document exactly what it does? 
  and how the staff size can be changed without changing the distance 
 between staff lines?  (I feel like I'm in a Kafka novel here.)

There were some discussions about layout-set-staff-size some time/years ago.
Can't find it right now.

 hth
 Eluze

[deleting billions of lines]

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: LSR - Adding extra fingering with scheme - Needs update.

2013-09-10 Thread Thomas Morley

2013/9/10 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes:

 #(define (make-text-script x)
(make-music 'TextScriptEvent
'direction DOWN
'text x))

 #(define (add-text-script m x)
(cond ((music-is-of-type? m 'event-chord)
   (set! (ly:music-property m 'elements)
  (cons (make-text-script x)
(ly:music-property m 'elements
  ((music-is-of-type? m 'note-event)
   (set! (ly:music-property m 'articulations)
  (cons (make-text-script x)
(ly:music-property m 'articulations
  (else (let ((es (ly:music-property m 'elements))
  (e (ly:music-property m 'element)))
  (map (lambda (y) (add-text-script y x)) es)
(for-each ...
  (if (ly:music? e)
  (add-text-script e x))
  )))
m)

 #(define (add-text-script m x)
(define (append-property! music property element)
  (set! (ly:music-property music property)
(append! (ly:music-property music property)
 (list element)))
  music)
(map-some-music
  (lambda (m)
(cond ((music-is-of-type m 'event-chord)
   (append-property! m 'elements (make-text-script x)))
  ((music-is-of-type m 'note-event)
   (append-property! m 'articulations (make-text-script x)))
  ;; don't recurse into other rhythmic events
  ((music-is-of-type m 'rhythmic-event) m)
  ;; recurse:
  (else #f)))
  m))

 That's the proper variant (as opposed to the original, it _returns_
 the modified music however).  One has to note that the improper variant
 will generally work as well: adding material to 'articulations works for
 both 'event-chord as well as 'note-event so one can drop the
 distinction.  It's not what LilyPond itself would do, however.

 Of course, not recursing into other rhythmic events is just an
 optimization that's not particularly important.

 --
 David Kastrup



Hi David,

first let me thank you for your code. It's by far better and more
elegant as my own.

While I was going to add a revised but unapproved snippet to the the
LSR marking it [needs upgrade],
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=887
I noticed that the original snippet was tagged docs !

And indeed, I found it in /Documentation/snippets:
'adding-extra-fingering-with-scheme.ly'.
But not in /snippets/new
And it seems not to be in the online snippets-manual or elsewhere.
I thought even a broken, but compiling snippet should appear.
?

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Trevor Daniels


Patrick or Cynthia Karl wrote Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:11 PM

 Does anyone not agree with me that layout-set-staff-size is nonsensical and 
 nonworking?  And that the documentation should document exactly what it does? 
  and how the staff size can be changed without changing the distance 
 between staff lines?  (I feel like I'm in a Kafka novel here.)

I've not been following this thread, but I think layout-set-staff-size is not 
useful here.
(I can't see what it does either.)

Have you looked at 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/distances-and-measurements
This explains how to change the staff-size locally, and how magstep is invoked 
to
make a corresponding change to the font.

Trevor
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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Hi Ed,

 can I ask what the \global tag is doing in your snippet? It seems
 to me like it's laying out a map of the time signature change in a piece. Is
 this the recommended way to go about this? Up till now I've just written all
 the time changes into the first staff as I put the notes in. 

I don't know about recommended, but I certainly prefer laying out the code 
that way.

My 'global' variable tends to have all score-level items: time signature 
changes (if score-level), key signature changes (if score-level), and marks 
(e.g. MetronomeMark, RehearsalMark), and so on.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Thanks yes it does help, although I can't see why you'd add the \global
section after the \codaMusic ? 



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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread James Harkins

Patrick or Cynthia Karl pckarl at mac.com writes:

  Message: 1
  Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:56:09 +0200
  From: Eluze eluzew at gmail.com
  To: lilypond-user at gnu.org
  Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
  Message-ID: 522F4F29.9010607 at gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed

  well - I think it's described somewhere inta manual. here's a little 
  function to facilitate the change of those 3 values:

... snip...

  Message: 2
  Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:00:34 +0200

Well, I don't have an answer to the question, but... a reminder... it is VERY 
uncool to quote an *entire digest* when you're replying to only one message.

Bad workflow:

1. Reply
2. Write
3. Send

Good workflow:

1. Reply
2. Write
3. Remove irrelevant quotes
4. Send

IMO step 3 is not optional.

hjh

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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

Hi Ed,

 I can't see why you'd add the \global section after the \codaMusic ? 

\pushToTag takes two parameters: the music you're trying to push (in this case, 
the notes that appear in the second staff right at the coda), and the music 
which contains the target tag (in this case, the \global variable with the 
original section tags).

Hope that helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Skip to Specific Bar

2013-09-10 Thread James Harkins

Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmillan at sympatico.ca writes:

  can I ask what the \global tag is doing in your snippet? It seems
  to me like it's laying out a map of the time signature change in a piece. 
Is
  this the recommended way to go about this? Up till now I've just written 
all
  the time changes into the first staff as I put the notes in. 
 
 I don't know about recommended, but I certainly prefer laying out the code 
that way.
 
 My 'global' variable tends to have all score-level items: time signature 
changes (if score-level), key
 signature changes (if score-level), and marks (e.g. MetronomeMark, 
RehearsalMark), and so on.

To explain the concrete benefit a little more:

If you're making only a score, it doesn't matter.

If you need to make parts, a \global variable will save you from having to 
extract time signatures and rehearsal marks from the first part. These score-
level marks do NOT automatically transfer from the music expression for staff 
1 into the music expressions for other staves when laying out parts (where the 
music expression for staff 1 is not present).

Lilypond has a different philosophy from other notation packages. You don't 
extract parts from a score. You write the parts as components -- variables -- 
and then lay out the variables into whatever formats are required. A score's 
music expression creates several staves and fills them with content defined in 
variables. A part creates (usually) a single staff and fills it with the 
variables relevant to that part -- omitting variables for other parts.

Anything that needs to be shared across multiple parts should go in a separate 
variable, or group of variables.

hjh


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mea máxima culpa

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
 To: Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com

 [deleting billions of lines]

 From: James Harkins  jamshar...@gmail.com
 Patrick or Cynthia Karl pckarl at mac.com writes:

 Well, I don't have an answer to the question, but... a reminder... it is VERY 
 uncool to quote an *entire digest* when you're replying to only one message.

I am so sorry and will try to do much better.
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