Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 24.11.2013 02:58, schrieb ryanmichaelmcclure:

How can one create a primo symbol in LilyPond? Here is what it should look
like: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n154307/Primo.png

I've attempted to create one using markup. Here are what I've tried:

^\markup{ \concat{ 1 \super o}}
^\markup{ 1°}
^\markup{ \concat{ 1 \large °}}

I can't seem to get the circle close enough to the 1. Has anyone had any
luck with this?


Use \hspace here:

primo = \markup \concat {  1. \hspace #-1 ° }

\score {
  \new Staff { c''^\primo }
}

HTH,

Marc


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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:

 Am 24.11.2013 02:58, schrieb ryanmichaelmcclure:
 How can one create a primo symbol in LilyPond? Here is what it should look
 like: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n154307/Primo.png

 I've attempted to create one using markup. Here are what I've tried:

 ^\markup{ \concat{ 1 \super o}}
 ^\markup{ 1°}
 ^\markup{ \concat{ 1 \large °}}

 I can't seem to get the circle close enough to the 1. Has anyone had any
 luck with this?

 Use \hspace here:

 primo = \markup \concat {  1. \hspace #-1 ° }

 \score {
   \new Staff { c''^\primo }
 }

What's wrong with

primo = 1º
prima = 1ª

Shouldn't that do the trick without further trickery?

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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 24.11.2013 09:35, schrieb David Kastrup:
[...]

What's wrong with

primo = 1º
prima = 1ª

Shouldn't that do the trick without further trickery?


Well, the example png shows the ° placed above the dot of 1..
If the dot can be omitted, 1° is probably just fine.



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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:

 Am 24.11.2013 09:35, schrieb David Kastrup:
 [...]
 What's wrong with

 primo = 1º
 prima = 1ª

 Shouldn't that do the trick without further trickery?

 Well, the example png shows the ° placed above the dot of 1..

You are using the wrong character here.  What you use is

  name: DEGREE SIGN
  general-category: So (Symbol, Other)
  decomposition: (176) ('°')

whereas the correct character is

  name: MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR
  general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
  decomposition: (super 111) (super 'o')

 If the dot can be omitted, 1° is probably just fine.

My mastery of Spanish (and/or Portuguese?) is non-existing, but it would
seem like the name and existence of that glyph makes it likely that its
presence alone should be indicative of an ordinal number.

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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:

 Am 24.11.2013 09:35, schrieb David Kastrup:
 [...]
 What's wrong with

 primo = 1º
 prima = 1ª

 Shouldn't that do the trick without further trickery?

 Well, the example png shows the ° placed above the dot of 1..

 You are using the wrong character here.  What you use is

   name: DEGREE SIGN
   general-category: So (Symbol, Other)
   decomposition: (176) ('°')

 whereas the correct character is

   name: MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR
   general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
   decomposition: (super 111) (super 'o')

 If the dot can be omitted, 1° is probably just fine.

 My mastery of Spanish (and/or Portuguese?) is non-existing, but it would
 seem like the name and existence of that glyph makes it likely that its
 presence alone should be indicative of an ordinal number.

Cf URL:https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/1%C2%BA

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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread pls

On 24.11.2013, at 10:06, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
 
 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:
 
 Am 24.11.2013 09:35, schrieb David Kastrup:
 [...]
 What's wrong with
 
 primo = 1º
 prima = 1ª
 
 Shouldn't that do the trick without further trickery?
 
 Well, the example png shows the ° placed above the dot of 1..
 
 You are using the wrong character here.  What you use is
 
  name: DEGREE SIGN
  general-category: So (Symbol, Other)
  decomposition: (176) ('°')
 
 whereas the correct character is
 
  name: MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR
  general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
  decomposition: (super 111) (super 'o')
 
 If the dot can be omitted, 1° is probably just fine.
 
 My mastery of Spanish (and/or Portuguese?) is non-existing, but it would
 seem like the name and existence of that glyph makes it likely that its
 presence alone should be indicative of an ordinal number.
 
 Cf URL:https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/1%C2%BA
How about

primero = \markup \concat { 1\char #186 }
primera = \markup \concat { 1\char #170 }

\score {
  \new Staff { c''^\primero c''^\primera }
}
?
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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread flup2
I guess it's different from a language to another. In French, the degree
character is often used for primo, but is not correct. It should be a
upper o letter (as explained here on page 10: 
http://jacques-andre.fr/faqtypo/lessons.pdf
http://jacques-andre.fr/faqtypo/lessons.pdf  )

Philippe



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Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

2013-11-24 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/10/9 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org

 I followed this thread only loosely.
 As long as we can't directly include LilyJAZZ into LilyPond I suggest
 making it available (and improvable) here:
 https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/LilyJAZZ
 I just created a folder where all related stuff can be placed.
 So I would suggest that once you have sorted everything out someone adds
 the files there, maybe also writes an introduction in the README.md file
 (which will be automatically displayed when viewing the folder).


Hi Urs

I see that the new link is:
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/custom-music-fonts/LilyJAZZ

but it's empty. What is preventing from having the last version of LilyJAZZ
there? Maybe some copyright issue?

I  think that such a repository is a great idea. Could you include also
bend.ly and bendtest.ly? See this issue
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1196
Harm adapted it for 2.17.x
Let me know if I can help somehow

Thank you
Federico
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shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger
Hi everyone!

just having finished my largest project so far I have been diving into tweaks 
and overrides quite extensively for the first time. I keep being amazed by LP’s 
capabilities Some questions have popped up, for which I couldn’t find any 
answer in the Manual. Could anyone give me a hint, were to look for it?

Is there a way to shape ties and slurs after a line break? The following tiny 
example should show the problem:

--8--SNIPP--
\version 2.17.95
#(set-global-staff-size 14)
\paper { ragged-right = ##t tagline =  #(set-paper-size a8) }

\relative { a'1^default ~ |\break a4 }

\relative { a'1^randomly changed shape-\shape #'((0 . -2) (0 . 0) (0 . 2) (0 
. 4)) ~ |\break a4^but here it's unchanged }
--8--SNAPP--

Thanks a lot in advance!

Kai
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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi,

2013/11/24 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net:
 Hi everyone!

 Is there a way to shape ties and slurs after a line break? The following tiny 
 example should show the problem:

 --8--SNIPP--
 \version 2.17.95
 #(set-global-staff-size 14)
 \paper { ragged-right = ##t tagline =  #(set-paper-size a8) }

 \relative { a'1^default ~ |\break a4 }

 \relative { a'1^randomly changed shape-\shape #'((0 . -2) (0 . 0) (0 . 2) 
 (0 . 4)) ~ |\break a4^but here it's unchanged }
 --8--SNAPP--

Use another set of offsets:

\version 2.17.95
#(set-global-staff-size 14)
\paper { ragged-right = ##t tagline =  #(set-paper-size a8) }

\relative { a'1^default ~ |\break a4 }

\relative {
  a'1^randomly changed shape
  -\shape #'(((0 . -2) (0 . 0) (0 . 2) (0 . 4))
 ((0 . -2) (0 . 0) (0 . 2) (0 . 4)))
  ~ |\break a4^and here it's changed as well
}

This is mentioned in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
- is that example not clear enough?  How should we improve it?

best,
Janek

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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 This is mentioned in
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
 - is that example not clear enough?  How should we improve it?

Maybe an interface that's easier to remember?

\beforeBreak \shape ...
\afterBreak \shape ...
\shape ... (

with the ability to leave off any specification and/or use any order of
\shape commands.  Yes, that's clearly not 2.18 material.  But probably
worth thinking about.

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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger
Dear Janek,

thanks a lot. Works just perfect!

I can not find anything about using two sets of offsets in the link you 
provided. And I probably wouldn’t have found it, since it doesn’t mention the 
\shape-command. Maybe pointing at \shape would be helpful, especially since it 
seems to me, that the „known problem“ can be worked around partly with \shape. 

… I take that back!!! I originally read the german translation and the above is 
my replay for that (I was automatically referred there?!?!). The english 
version has it all. Thanks a lot.

Kai

 Hi,
 
 2013/11/24 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net:
 Hi everyone!
 
 Is there a way to shape ties and slurs after a line break? The following 
 tiny example should show the problem:
 
 --8--SNIPP--
 \version 2.17.95
 #(set-global-staff-size 14)
 \paper { ragged-right = ##t tagline =  #(set-paper-size a8) }
 
 \relative { a'1^default ~ |\break a4 }
 
 \relative { a'1^randomly changed shape-\shape #'((0 . -2) (0 . 0) (0 . 2) 
 (0 . 4)) ~ |\break a4^but here it's unchanged }
 --8--SNAPP--
 
 Use another set of offsets:
 
 \version 2.17.95
 #(set-global-staff-size 14)
 \paper { ragged-right = ##t tagline =  #(set-paper-size a8) }
 
 \relative { a'1^default ~ |\break a4 }
 
 \relative {
  a'1^randomly changed shape
  -\shape #'(((0 . -2) (0 . 0) (0 . 2) (0 . 4))
 ((0 . -2) (0 . 0) (0 . 2) (0 . 4)))
  ~ |\break a4^and here it's changed as well
 }
 
 This is mentioned in
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
 - is that example not clear enough?  How should we improve it?
 
 best,
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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/24 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 This is mentioned in
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
 - is that example not clear enough?  How should we improve it?

 Maybe an interface that's easier to remember?

 \beforeBreak \shape ...
 \afterBreak \shape ...
 \shape ... (

 with the ability to leave off any specification and/or use any order of
 \shape commands.  Yes, that's clearly not 2.18 material.  But probably
 worth thinking about.

Interesting idea, but what about slurs that are broken multiple times?
On the other hand, such situation is quite rare...


2013/11/24 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net:
 Dear Janek,

 thanks a lot. Works just perfect!

 I can not find anything about using two sets of offsets in the link you 
 provided. And I probably wouldn’t have found it, since it doesn’t mention the 
 \shape-command. Maybe pointing at \shape would be helpful, especially since 
 it seems to me, that the „known problem“ can be worked around partly with 
 \shape.

 … I take that back!!! I originally read the german translation and the above 
 is my replay for that (I was automatically referred there?!?!). The english 
 version has it all. Thanks a lot.

Ah, ok.  That explains :)

best,
Janek

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Ambitus not in the beginning

2013-11-24 Thread Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger
Dear list,

sorry to ask again and I hope this time it will not be something obviously 
explained in the manual. Is there a way to insert ambitus at the beginning of a 
staff, that is not the first staff of the score?

A piece I am doing starts of with solo voice and organ and later the choir sets 
in with the solo staff being taken over by the tenors. I would like to add an 
ambitus in each choir voice, when it first appears (the empty lines in the 
first two systems before are not shown). 

The change between soloist and tenors appears more often within the piece and 
unfortunately not always at line break points. It would be acceptable (for this 
piece) for the ambitus to take into account both solo and tenor notes. 

I’m grateful for any idea.

Kai



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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 2013/11/24 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 This is mentioned in
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
 - is that example not clear enough?  How should we improve it?

 Maybe an interface that's easier to remember?

 \beforeBreak \shape ...
 \afterBreak \shape ...
 \shape ... (

 with the ability to leave off any specification and/or use any order of
 \shape commands.  Yes, that's clearly not 2.18 material.  But probably
 worth thinking about.

 Interesting idea, but what about slurs that are broken multiple times?

\beforeBreak #1 \shape ...

 On the other hand, such situation is quite rare...

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Re: Ambitus not in the beginning

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net writes:

 Dear list,

 sorry to ask again and I hope this time it will not be something
 obviously explained in the manual. Is there a way to insert ambitus at
 the beginning of a staff, that is not the first staff of the score?

 A piece I am doing starts of with solo voice and organ and later the
 choir sets in with the solo staff being taken over by the tenors. I
 would like to add an ambitus in each choir voice, when it first
 appears (the empty lines in the first two systems before are not
 shown).

Just use an ambitus engraver in each of the tenor voices (one with an
X-offset)?

-- 
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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/24 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 2013/11/24 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 This is mentioned in
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
 - is that example not clear enough?  How should we improve it?

 Maybe an interface that's easier to remember?

 \beforeBreak \shape ...
 \afterBreak \shape ...
 \shape ... (

 with the ability to leave off any specification and/or use any order of
 \shape commands.  Yes, that's clearly not 2.18 material.  But probably
 worth thinking about.

 Interesting idea, but what about slurs that are broken multiple times?

 \beforeBreak #1 \shape ...

Ok, that's indeed quite user-friendly.  I suggest to look at this
after 2.18 is out - possibly together with merging my \shape
improvements that i'm going to announce today.

best,
Janek

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Re: Ambitus not in the beginning

2013-11-24 Thread Kai Lautenschläger
Hi David,

thanks for your reply.

Am 24.11.2013 um 12:26 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:

 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net writes:
 
 Dear list,
 
 sorry to ask again and I hope this time it will not be something
 obviously explained in the manual. Is there a way to insert ambitus at
 the beginning of a staff, that is not the first staff of the score?
 
 A piece I am doing starts of with solo voice and organ and later the
 choir sets in with the solo staff being taken over by the tenors. I
 would like to add an ambitus in each choir voice, when it first
 appears (the empty lines in the first two systems before are not
 shown).
 
 Just use an ambitus engraver in each of the tenor voices (one with an
 X-offset)?

I understand, but that not solve my problem. I would like an ambitus in the 
n-th system of a score instead of at the beginning. How do I go about that?

 
 -- 
 David Kastrup

best regards, Kai
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Re: Ambitus not in the beginning

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/24 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net:
 Dear list,

 sorry to ask again and I hope this time it will not be something obviously 
 explained in the manual. Is there a way to insert ambitus at the beginning of 
 a staff, that is not the first staff of the score?

 A piece I am doing starts of with solo voice and organ and later the choir 
 sets in with the solo staff being taken over by the tenors. I would like to 
 add an ambitus in each choir voice, when it first appears (the empty lines in 
 the first two systems before are not shown).

 The change between soloist and tenors appears more often within the piece and 
 unfortunately not always at line break points. It would be acceptable (for 
 this piece) for the ambitus to take into account both solo and tenor notes.

 I’m grateful for any idea.

You may look for an email from Harm (thomasmorle...@gmail.com), from
July 24, titled Ambitus - was:move clef.

hth,
Janek

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Re: Ambitus not in the beginning

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/24 Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com:
 Hi David,

 thanks for your reply.

 Am 24.11.2013 um 12:26 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:

 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net writes:

 Dear list,

 sorry to ask again and I hope this time it will not be something
 obviously explained in the manual. Is there a way to insert ambitus at
 the beginning of a staff, that is not the first staff of the score?

 A piece I am doing starts of with solo voice and organ and later the
 choir sets in with the solo staff being taken over by the tenors. I
 would like to add an ambitus in each choir voice, when it first
 appears (the empty lines in the first two systems before are not
 shown).

 Just use an ambitus engraver in each of the tenor voices (one with an
 X-offset)?

 I understand, but that not solve my problem. I would like an ambitus in the 
 n-th system of a score instead of at the beginning. How do I go about that?

If the voice to which you add ambitus starts there (i.e. it doesn't
start at the beginning of the piece) you should get what you want.

\new Staff {
  R1*3
  \new Voice \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver } {
c'2 g'
  }
}

Janek

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Re: Ambitus not in the beginning

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com writes:

 Hi David,

 thanks for your reply.

 Am 24.11.2013 um 12:26 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:

 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net writes:
 
 Dear list,
 
 sorry to ask again and I hope this time it will not be something
 obviously explained in the manual. Is there a way to insert ambitus at
 the beginning of a staff, that is not the first staff of the score?
 
 A piece I am doing starts of with solo voice and organ and later the
 choir sets in with the solo staff being taken over by the tenors. I
 would like to add an ambitus in each choir voice, when it first
 appears (the empty lines in the first two systems before are not
 shown).
 
 Just use an ambitus engraver in each of the tenor voices (one with an
 X-offset)?

 I understand, but that not solve my problem. I would like an ambitus
 in the n-th system of a score instead of at the beginning. How do I go
 about that?


  { \skip 1*n \new Voice = tenor_I \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver } ...


-- 
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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread Urs Liska




Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb:
2013/11/24 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 This is mentioned in

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes
 - is that example not clear enough?  How should we improve it?

 Maybe an interface that's easier to remember?

 \beforeBreak \shape ...
 \afterBreak \shape ...
 \shape ... (

 with the ability to leave off any specification and/or use any order
of
 \shape commands.  Yes, that's clearly not 2.18 material.  But
probably
 worth thinking about.

Interesting idea, but what about slurs that are broken multiple times?
On the other hand, such situation is quite rare...


Once there was this option that \shape complained (by warning and optionally 
color) when the number of offset lists didn't match the number of siblings.
This is very useful to catch changes in line-breaking.
Any option to get that back?

Urs


2013/11/24 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net:
 Dear Janek,

 thanks a lot. Works just perfect!

 I can not find anything about using two sets of offsets in the link
you provided. And I probably wouldn’t have found it, since it doesn’t
mention the \shape-command. Maybe pointing at \shape would be helpful,
especially since it seems to me, that the „known problem“ can be worked
around partly with \shape.

 … I take that back!!! I originally read the german translation and
the above is my replay for that (I was automatically referred
there?!?!). The english version has it all. Thanks a lot.

Ah, ok.  That explains :)

best,
Janek

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Re: Ambitus not in the beginning

2013-11-24 Thread Kai Lautenschläger
Dear David and Janek,

I see the approach. I was hoping there would be a possibility to insert the 
ambitus without redistributing my note to different voices. Now I see, that I 
should have done that right from the start. Right now, I have the solo parts 
and the choir parts for the tenor in one \voice-context.

I will tell you, when it worked out.

best regards

Kai

Am 24.11.2013 um 13:02 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:

 Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com writes:
 
 Hi David,
 
 thanks for your reply.
 
 Am 24.11.2013 um 12:26 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 
 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger dr.lautenschlae...@gmx.net writes:
 
 Dear list,
 
 sorry to ask again and I hope this time it will not be something
 obviously explained in the manual. Is there a way to insert ambitus at
 the beginning of a staff, that is not the first staff of the score?
 
 A piece I am doing starts of with solo voice and organ and later the
 choir sets in with the solo staff being taken over by the tenors. I
 would like to add an ambitus in each choir voice, when it first
 appears (the empty lines in the first two systems before are not
 shown).
 
 Just use an ambitus engraver in each of the tenor voices (one with an
 X-offset)?
 
 I understand, but that not solve my problem. I would like an ambitus
 in the n-th system of a score instead of at the beginning. How do I go
 about that?
 
 
  { \skip 1*n \new Voice = tenor_I \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver } ...
 
 
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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 24.11.2013 09:56, schrieb David Kastrup:

Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:


Am 24.11.2013 09:35, schrieb David Kastrup:
[...]

What's wrong with

primo = 1º
prima = 1ª

Shouldn't that do the trick without further trickery?


Well, the example png shows the ° placed above the dot of 1..


You are using the wrong character here.  What you use is

   name: DEGREE SIGN
   general-category: So (Symbol, Other)
   decomposition: (176) ('°')

whereas the correct character is

   name: MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR
   general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
   decomposition: (super 111) (super 'o')


If the dot can be omitted, 1° is probably just fine.


My mastery of Spanish (and/or Portuguese?) is non-existing, but it would
seem like the name and existence of that glyph makes it likely that its
presence alone should be indicative of an ordinal number.


Ok. This is yet another utf trickery I wasn't aware of ;-)

Thanks for clarification!

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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:

 Am 24.11.2013 09:56, schrieb David Kastrup:
 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:

 Am 24.11.2013 09:35, schrieb David Kastrup:
 [...]
 What's wrong with

 primo = 1º
 prima = 1ª

 Shouldn't that do the trick without further trickery?

 Well, the example png shows the ° placed above the dot of 1..

 You are using the wrong character here.  What you use is

name: DEGREE SIGN
general-category: So (Symbol, Other)
decomposition: (176) ('°')

 whereas the correct character is

name: MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR
general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
decomposition: (super 111) (super 'o')

 If the dot can be omitted, 1° is probably just fine.

 My mastery of Spanish (and/or Portuguese?) is non-existing, but it would
 seem like the name and existence of that glyph makes it likely that its
 presence alone should be indicative of an ordinal number.

 Ok. This is yet another utf trickery I wasn't aware of ;-)

I think it's actually in the Latin-1 range already.  Some people must
have considered it important.

On my keyboard, I get them with Compose ^ _ o and Compose ^ _ a which
took me an inordinate amount of time to figure out.

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Re: shape ties/slurs after line break

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/24 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Once there was this option that \shape complained (by warning and optionally 
 color) when the number of offset lists didn't match the number of siblings.
 This is very useful to catch changes in line-breaking.
 Any option to get that back?

This is possible but i don't know if i'll have time to add it to \shapeII.

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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
David Kastrup wrote
 My mastery of Spanish (and/or Portuguese?) is non-existing, but it would
 seem like the name and existence of that glyph makes it likely that its
 presence alone should be indicative of an ordinal number.

Just a short (and pedantic) comment: in Portuguese (or at least in Brazil),
the correct way to abbreviate the word primeiro is 1.º

If you write 1° (without the point), this should be read as um grau (one
degree). That said, not many people use these concepts correctly, and more
often than not you will find 1° representing primeiro.

I know that the link in the wikitionary also says that 1º is the correct
abbreviation for primeiro, but I think they got it wrong there.

Take care,
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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread Marcos Press
Keeping away from theoricals constructions of different languages and
sticking to the image to achive, I think these should do some trick. Surely
it could be perfected.

\score {

  \relative c'' {

   c^\markup \concat { 1\char #186 }  % from pls snip

   b^\markup{ 1°}   % from ryanmichaelmcclure

   c^\markup{ \concat{ 1 \large °}} % from ryanmichaelmcclure

   b^\markup{ \concat{1\column{\vspace #-.2o \vspace #-.8.}}} % my
idea.

|

   g^\primero

   a^\markup{ 1°}

   g^\markup{ \concat{ 1 \large °}}

   a^\markup{ \concat{1\column{\vspace #-.2o \vspace #-.8.}}}

  }

}

Good Luck!


2013/11/24 Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com

 David Kastrup wrote
  My mastery of Spanish (and/or Portuguese?) is non-existing, but it would
  seem like the name and existence of that glyph makes it likely that its
  presence alone should be indicative of an ordinal number.

 Just a short (and pedantic) comment: in Portuguese (or at least in Brazil),
 the correct way to abbreviate the word primeiro is 1.º

 If you write 1° (without the point), this should be read as um grau (one
 degree). That said, not many people use these concepts correctly, and more
 often than not you will find 1° representing primeiro.

 I know that the link in the wikitionary also says that 1º is the correct
 abbreviation for primeiro, but I think they got it wrong there.

 Take care,
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Re: Primo symbol in LilyPond

2013-11-24 Thread ryanmichaelmcclure
(My apologies for not responsing--sleep and things like that happened)

Marcos, your idea looks excellent! I'm going to try using that. I like the
other ideas too--and I had no idea that having the symbol with or without
the dot, or using a different circle, had different implications. 



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Re: Bar numbers under the music rather than above?

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Ryan,

did you try adapting the function?  Did you run into some trouble?

best,
Janek

2013/11/19 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
 Hi Ryan,

 2013/11/19 ryanmichaelmcclure ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com:
 Hi there Janek! I tried your Scheme and it worked WONDERFULLY!

 Great, you're welcome!

 That's exactly
 what I want for larger bar numbers at the beginning! I am clueless about how
 to do Schemes...I could probably drop a bunch of rocks on my keyboard and
 get a better result than if I were to try and use it.

 Don't fool yourself like this.  Programming in Scheme is a skill that
 can be learned.  When i wanted to write the function i sent you, i
 didn't know anything about Scheme - it took me over an hour to get
 this working, but i succeeded!  And now i can do write some really
 awesome Scheme stuff, much faster.

 How would I go about
 adding direction in this scheme?

 First, install newest version of Frescobaldi and use it.  This will
 give you syntax highlithing [1] which makes understanding any code -
 including Scheme - much easier.
 Then, look at the function i've sent you and determine where to change
 it to make it work with directions instead of font-size.

 Here's another example function that may help you in understanding how
 these things work:

 \override Score.BarNumber #'self-alignment-X =
 #(lambda (grob)
 (let ((break-dir (ly:item-break-dir grob)))
   (set! (ly:grob-property grob 'self-alignment-X)
 (if (= break-dir RIGHT)
 RIGHT
 CENTER

 Don't be intimidated, this should be easy to do.  Ask if you get stuck.

 hth,
 Janek

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LilyPond / Android

2013-11-24 Thread Michel Camiré
Can we install LilyPond on Android currently ? If not will it be possible soon ?


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Extending lyric extender

2013-11-24 Thread Yann
Hello everybody !

I have the following situation in few hymns (SATB) I'm typesetting :

I chose to use the lyrics extender when for example, choir singers have to
hold a long note on a phrase ending, especially when, for example, one
voice sings a half note while some others sing 2 quarter notes.
I thus use the extender to remind all singers to hold their note till the
end, else the voices singing the two quarters will be heard alone.

In my generic setup, I'm attaching the lyrics to the soprano voice.
Everything is fine when the soprano have the 2 quarters.
But when the soprano sings the half, and alto sings the 2 quarters, then
the extender is too short.
It is only slightly wider than the half note, instead of being as wide as
the 2 quarter notes of the alto voice.

Is this behaviour normal ?
If so, is there a way to extend the extender so it takes the full
duration of the half note ?


I'm not sure everything is well explained, if needed I'll try to make a
minimal example.

Thanks !
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Re: LilyPond / Android

2013-11-24 Thread Martin Tarenskeen


On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Michel Camiré wrote:

Can we install LilyPond on Android currently ? If not will it be possible 
soon ?


That would be great, but to make that work there are a are a whole bunch of 
heavy dependencies that are not met (yet). Guile and Ghostscript for example.


A solution that is more likely to happen soon is a web-based service liek 
Lilybin. It only needs to be improved to be usable on smaller screes like 
tablets and smartphones.


I'm not an expert but that's my guess

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Re: LilyPond / Android

2013-11-24 Thread SoundsFromSound
Michel Camiré wrote
 Can we install LilyPond on Android currently ? If not will it be possible
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including Android. Just use a text editing app, but I don't believe you can
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Re: Extending lyric extender

2013-11-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Yann,

 Is this behaviour normal ?

Yes.

 If so, is there a way to extend the extender so it takes the full duration 
 of the half note ?

Only by assigning it to the voice with the extension note(s):

\version 2.16

\paper { ragged-right = ##f }

sopMusic = {
  c'4 d' e' f'
  g'1
}

altMusic = {
  c'4 b c' d'
  f'2( e')
}

saMusic = {
  
\context Voice = soprano { \voiceOne \sopMusic }
\\
\context Voice = alto { \voiceTwo \altMusic }
   \oneVoice
}

someWords = \lyricmode {
  Set the lyr -- ics thus! __
}

\score {
  
\new Staff \saMusic
\new Lyrics \lyricsto soprano \someWords
  
}

otherWords = \lyricmode {
  \set associatedVoice = soprano
  Set the lyr -- \set associatedVoice = alto ics
  \once \override LyricText #'X-offset = #-2
  thus! __
}

\score {
  
\new Staff \saMusic
\new Lyrics \lyricsto soprano \otherWords
  
}

Two observations:
1. The “\set associatedVoice” needs to before the syllable PRIOR to the one you 
actually want to “switch” to the new voice — one of my least favourite things 
in Lilypond.
2. The X-offset tweak is to avoid the weird shift of the text (to match the 
shift of the note in that voice), and thus may not be necessary in your 
situation — comment it out to see the default output.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: LilyPond / Android

2013-11-24 Thread Johan Vromans
Michel Camiré mcam...@cgocable.ca writes:

 Can we install LilyPond on Android currently ? If not will it be
 possible soon ?

You can run linux (e.g. Ubuntu) *under* Android, and then run LilyPond
as familiar.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid

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LilyPond/Android

2013-11-24 Thread Michel Camiré
Is it possible currently, to install LilyPond on Android ? If not, are
there plans to do so in a near future ?

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How to best do chord/melody arrangement

2013-11-24 Thread Ian
Hi, I have a simple question but have had no luck finding an answer in the 
manual or via google. I'm sure it is there - but I have not found it, so I 
hope someone here can point me in the correct direction.

I play a lot of guitar pieces where I will play several single notes 
followed by a chord ... then some single notes etc. When I write this by 
hand, the notes are as normal and for the chord I use a note with a slash 
rather than a circle at the bottom and I write the chord name above it.

I am notating it something like this in lillypad (2 sample bars)

a1
\chordmode{e2.:7} e'8 c8

This works well enough in the .ly file for me but there are a few issues 
with the presentation.

1. The chord is shown as a collection of notes rather than a simple slash 
note. I can live with that though - it's just personal aesthetic.
2. If I show chordNames then I get a chord name for all the notes and the 
chords. I only want to see chord names for the actual chords though (i.e. 
not for the single notes).

I realise that I could have 2 sections - one with notes and one with the 
chords and assign them each to a different staff ... but that does not 
really work for me because the chords and the notes are all one (i.e. all 
played by the same guitar), so when I write it down I write it in one flow. 
To separate them out would be really difficult and artificial.

Like I say, this way of playing on solo guitar is pretty common, so I am 
sure it is somewhere in the manual.

Thanks,

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Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

2013-11-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/24 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com:
 2013/10/9 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 I followed this thread only loosely.
 As long as we can't directly include LilyJAZZ into LilyPond I suggest
 making it available (and improvable) here:
 https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/LilyJAZZ
 I just created a folder where all related stuff can be placed.
 So I would suggest that once you have sorted everything out someone adds
 the files there, maybe also writes an introduction in the README.md file
 (which will be automatically displayed when viewing the folder).

 Hi Urs

 I see that the new link is:
 https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/custom-music-fonts/LilyJAZZ

 but it's empty. What is preventing from having the last version of LilyJAZZ
 there? Maybe some copyright issue?

No, it's not quite about copyright.
I cannot speak for Urs, but as we're both maintaining this repository,
i'll say how the situation looks from my point of view:
- i'm not quite sure where to find the latest version of LilyJAZZ and
whether there are any knows issues that should be documented.  Of
course it's just a matter of reading archive emails, but there's quite
a lot of them and i don't have much time...
- together with Urs we focused on finishing Fried project and writing
post series about it on the blog
(http://lilypondblog.org/category/fried-songs/) and this took much of
our time,
- some people expressed concerns about creating a separate repository
with lilypond stuff like openlilylib/snippets (they said that it's
diluting our resources and manpower), so i didn't want to push it lest
that someone will think that i'm trying to hijack developers or
something.

 I  think that such a repository is a great idea. Could you include also
 bend.ly and bendtest.ly? See this issue
 https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1196
 Harm adapted it for 2.17.x
 Let me know if I can help somehow

If you'd like to help with getting bend stuff and LilyJAZZ into
openlilylib/snippets that would be absolutely awesome!  We accept pull
requests on github, or you could send us patches.  If you don't feel
comfortable with such workflows, It would be enough if you just told
us what exactly to put there.  In other words, we need:
- the latest version of the stuff to put into the repostory
- up-to-date description, including known issues, TODOs, nonstandard
dependencies etc.  In other words, the description should contain all
important informations about the package (so that one doesn't have to
sift through mailing list archives or tracker issue comments).

Don't get me wrong - i don't expect a 10-page dissertation and full user manual!

I'll gladly help with getting LilyJAZZ into the repository, but i'm
currently not able to lead such effort - someone has to take
responsibility, and i'll support him as much i can.

best,
Janek

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Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

2013-11-24 Thread Urs Liska

Am 25.11.2013 00:11, schrieb Janek Warchoł:

2013/11/24 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com:

2013/10/9 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org

I followed this thread only loosely.
As long as we can't directly include LilyJAZZ into LilyPond I suggest
making it available (and improvable) here:
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/LilyJAZZ
I just created a folder where all related stuff can be placed.
So I would suggest that once you have sorted everything out someone adds
the files there, maybe also writes an introduction in the README.md file
(which will be automatically displayed when viewing the folder).

Hi Urs

I see that the new link is:
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/custom-music-fonts/LilyJAZZ

but it's empty. What is preventing from having the last version of LilyJAZZ
there? Maybe some copyright issue?

No, it's not quite about copyright.
I cannot speak for Urs, but as we're both maintaining this repository,
i'll say how the situation looks from my point of view:
- i'm not quite sure where to find the latest version of LilyJAZZ and
whether there are any knows issues that should be documented.  Of
course it's just a matter of reading archive emails, but there's quite
a lot of them and i don't have much time...
- together with Urs we focused on finishing Fried project and writing
post series about it on the blog
(http://lilypondblog.org/category/fried-songs/) and this took much of
our time,
- some people expressed concerns about creating a separate repository
with lilypond stuff like openlilylib/snippets (they said that it's
diluting our resources and manpower), so i didn't want to push it lest
that someone will think that i'm trying to hijack developers or
something.


I  think that such a repository is a great idea. Could you include also
bend.ly and bendtest.ly? See this issue
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1196
Harm adapted it for 2.17.x
Let me know if I can help somehow

If you'd like to help with getting bend stuff and LilyJAZZ into
openlilylib/snippets that would be absolutely awesome!  We accept pull
requests on github, or you could send us patches.  If you don't feel
comfortable with such workflows, It would be enough if you just told
us what exactly to put there.  In other words, we need:
- the latest version of the stuff to put into the repostory
- up-to-date description, including known issues, TODOs, nonstandard
dependencies etc.  In other words, the description should contain all
important informations about the package (so that one doesn't have to
sift through mailing list archives or tracker issue comments).

Don't get me wrong - i don't expect a 10-page dissertation and full user manual!

I'll gladly help with getting LilyJAZZ into the repository, but i'm
currently not able to lead such effort - someone has to take
responsibility, and i'll support him as much i can.


I have to add that some opinions were raised that we can't simply put 
something in such a library that was 'published' on lilypond-user 
without asking back with the author - who seems to be unreachable for 
LilyJAZZ.


And for the reasons Janek described I didn't have enough time or energy 
to follow this anymore.

But I'd say if anybody will help we're gladly helping to put it online.

Urs




best,
Janek

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Re: How to best do chord/melody arrangement

2013-11-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi,

 I play a lot of guitar pieces where I will play several single notes 
 followed by a chord ... then some single notes etc. When I write this by 
 hand, the notes are as normal and for the chord I use a note with a slash 
 rather than a circle at the bottom and I write the chord name above it.

What about this?

\version 2.16

theChords = \chordmode {
  s1
  e2.:7 s4
}

theNotes = \relative a' {
  a1
  \improvisationOn b2. \improvisationOff e8 c8
}

\score {
  
\new ChordNames \theChords
\new Staff \theNotes
  
}

Hope this helps,
Kieren.

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Re: How to best do chord/melody arrangement

2013-11-24 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 11/24/13 3:41 PM, Ian bigi...@gmail.com wrote:

I realise that I could have 2 sections - one with notes and one with the
chords and assign them each to a different staff ... but that does not
really work for me because the chords and the notes are all one (i.e. all
played by the same guitar), so when I write it down I write it in one
flow. 
To separate them out would be really difficult and artificial.

Separating it all is the way we would do it in LilyPond (it's also the way
I do it when I write my guitar music.

\version 2.16.2

mc = #(define-music-function
  (parser location myNotes)
  (ly:music?)
  #{  \improvisationOn $myNotes \improvisationOff #} )

myChords = \chordmode {
s1
e1:7
}

myNotes = {
a1
\mc{e2.}
e'8 c8
}


\new ChordNames {
  \myChords
}
\new Voice \with {
  \consists Pitch_squash_engraver
} {
  \myNotes
}








Not exactly the way you want it, but it's the best way I know to do it.

Hope this is helpful.

Carl


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Re: How to best do chord/melody arrangement

2013-11-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Ian,

(Please “Reply All”, so that a copy goes to the list and not just to the 
originator of a given email.)

 that inprovisationOn/Off thing is pretty cool as it gives me the 'slash' I 
 want.I'll go investigate that some more in the manual.
 The problem is though that it still splits what is a single piece of music 
 into 2 sections (chords and notes) and when writing it, you need to be 
 careful with all the spaces in the chords section to make sure it all lines 
 up. Ideally I would just like to specify the chord name in the improvisation 
 section above.

1. Look for “parallelMusic” — there might be something there that can help you.
2. Perhaps a Scheme function or engraver could be written to take a single 
input and spit out what you want — that’s far beyond my abillities, so you’ll 
want to ask around (and possibly offer a bounty).

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: The ultimate slur shaping function.

2013-11-24 Thread Ryan McClure
I like what I see!!! :) If there's one thing that I spend the most time 
on, it's modifying slurs, especially on Schenker graphs. However, 
there's one question I have. You mentioned that using \shape would apply 
to all following slurs. Is it possible to use \once \shape? I haven't 
had a chance to mess with it yet, I've only read the attachments. 
Excellent work! LilyPond is getting better and better every day!!!


-Ryan McClure

On 11/24/2013 07:42 PM, Janek Warcho? wrote:

Hi all,

I'm proud to announce the beginning of a new era in tweaking LilyPond slurs!
Thanks to sponsoring from Kieren, Alexander and Ben, I was able to
improve Lily's \shape function (originally written by David Nalesnik,
who also helped me with these improvements) - it's now possible to
shape slurs in many ways, some of which are considerably more robust
and generic than simple offsets used until now.

In addition to improved \shape, I've also written a function that
allows to simply specify slur attachment points (as per Kieren's
request - this feature returns to LilyPond after being removed about 8
years ago).

See the attachments; the pdfs containing demonstrations of new
capabilities and user documentation are here:
http://lilypond-stuff.1065243.n5.nabble.com/file/n5705621/shapeII-examples.pdf
http://lilypond-stuff.1065243.n5.nabble.com/file/n5705621/slur-attachments-examples.pdf

Please test the functions and send me your opinions and feedback.
Maybe I could improve them even more :-)

best,
Janek

PS Here's the original email in which I had announced this project:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-10/msg00637.html
I apologize that it took so much time - I was waiting for some
reviews, and also had to finish some other tasks.


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Re: The ultimate slur shaping function.

2013-11-24 Thread SoundsFromSound
Janek Warchoł wrote
 Hi all,
 
 I'm proud to announce the beginning of a new era in tweaking LilyPond
 slurs!
 Thanks to sponsoring from Kieren, Alexander and Ben, I was able to
 improve Lily's \shape function (originally written by David Nalesnik,
 who also helped me with these improvements) - it's now possible to
 shape slurs in many ways, some of which are considerably more robust
 and generic than simple offsets used until now.

Janek,

I'm trying to test this out but I'm getting an error in my log:
warning: Ignoring non-music expression
\shapeII 
 #'((3 . 0))

How should I proceed, what's the fix? :)




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Possible bug? Commenting out section causes EOF

2013-11-24 Thread ryanmichaelmcclure
I am working on a multi-part piece. I have all of my parts in one .ly file.
So, when I want to work on just one, I comment out all other parts using %{
%}  However, when I go to engrave, I get an error that reads 

/home/ryanmcclure/Compositions/Transcriptions/Holst, Gustav/First Suite In
E-Flat/Parts.ly:813:69: error: EOF found inside a comment
  instrument = \markup{ \center-column{ \line {BASS DRUM, CYMBALS,
} \line
{TAMBOURINE,  TRIANGLE}}}
/home/ryanmcclure/Compositions/Transcriptions/Holst, Gustav/First Suite In
E-Flat/Parts.ly:813:69: error: syntax error, unexpected end of input
  instrument = \markup{ \center-column{ \line {BASS DRUM, CYMBALS,
} \line
{TAMBOURINE,  TRIANGLE}}}
fatal error: failed files:
/home/ryanmcclure/Compositions/Transcriptions/Holst, Gustav/First Suite In
E-Flat/Parts.ly

(Forgive me for putting entire output, but this may help)

Whenever I uncomment everything, however, it works perfectly with no error
at all. I'm not sure what's going on. I can try to submit the .ly files for
you all to try it, but I'll have to break them down to minimal samples. What
could be causing this?



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Re: The ultimate slur shaping function.

2013-11-24 Thread David Kastrup
SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com writes:

 Janek Warchoł wrote
 Hi all,
 
 I'm proud to announce the beginning of a new era in tweaking LilyPond
 slurs!
 Thanks to sponsoring from Kieren, Alexander and Ben, I was able to
 improve Lily's \shape function (originally written by David Nalesnik,
 who also helped me with these improvements) - it's now possible to
 shape slurs in many ways, some of which are considerably more robust
 and generic than simple offsets used until now.

 Janek,

 I'm trying to test this out but I'm getting an error in my log:
 warning: Ignoring non-music expression
 \shapeII 
  #'((3 . 0))

 How should I proceed, what's the fix? :)

The fix for the bug report is never to forget specifying your version of
LilyPond.

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Re: Possible bug? Commenting out section causes EOF

2013-11-24 Thread ryanmichaelmcclure
/facepalm/

I forgot to uncomment at the end of the document so that \book { could be
closed. Please disregard these emails :P

PS--To all of those who are reading this, thank you for all of the help
you've given me during my LilyPond learning process! It is appreciated more
than you could ever know!!!



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Re: The ultimate slur shaping function.

2013-11-24 Thread SoundsFromSound
David Kastrup wrote
 The fix for the bug report is never to forget specifying your version of
 LilyPond.
 
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Re: The ultimate slur shaping function.

2013-11-24 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Janek,

this looks really great. I use some shortcuts, wrapping \shape, in my
typesettings - this might move it foreward a lot!
And probably I have an idea.

Best, Jan-Peter


Am 25.11.2013 01:42, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm proud to announce the beginning of a new era in tweaking LilyPond slurs!
 Thanks to sponsoring from Kieren, Alexander and Ben, I was able to
 improve Lily's \shape function (originally written by David Nalesnik,
 who also helped me with these improvements) - it's now possible to
 shape slurs in many ways, some of which are considerably more robust
 and generic than simple offsets used until now.
 
 In addition to improved \shape, I've also written a function that
 allows to simply specify slur attachment points (as per Kieren's
 request - this feature returns to LilyPond after being removed about 8
 years ago).
 
 See the attachments; the pdfs containing demonstrations of new
 capabilities and user documentation are here:
 http://lilypond-stuff.1065243.n5.nabble.com/file/n5705621/shapeII-examples.pdf
 http://lilypond-stuff.1065243.n5.nabble.com/file/n5705621/slur-attachments-examples.pdf
 
 Please test the functions and send me your opinions and feedback.
 Maybe I could improve them even more :-)
 
 best,
 Janek
 
 PS Here's the original email in which I had announced this project:
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-10/msg00637.html
 I apologize that it took so much time - I was waiting for some
 reviews, and also had to finish some other tasks.
 


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