Fwd: NotateMe, iPad app
Have anyone tried NotateMe ? Here's a demo : http://www.neuratron.com/notateme.html See also : http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/notateme-music-handwriting-app-out-of-beta/ Looks pretty cool though. Happy new year, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What should be the default B7 chord?
my vote: second. http://www.bartart3d.be/ On facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/BartArt3D/169488999795102 On Twitter https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo On Identi.ca http://identi.ca/bartart3d On Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/ 2014/1/12 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes: Carl Sorensen-3 wrote There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord shape should be. I'm making a poll to determine what the users would prefer. Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the second chord (open chord in first position)? why not barred on fret 7 - it's easy to play (at least easier than your 1st example), you can strum all strings and in many cases it fits better. Ah, the Only E should be admitted to the barr or One chord, one world school particularly popular with electric guitar players... -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How many slurs in LilyPond need adjusting? (was: New, more powerful version of \shape!)
2014/1/11 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca: Hi Janek, Thank you for all your continuing and wonderful work on curves in particular, and Lilypond in general! Why, thanks! I'm not sure if you're not exaggerating, i've been failing to keep up recently and i think i failed some people because of my lack of time :( 1. Would you consider putting all your tweaks and shortcuts in a file — on GitHub, maybe? ;) — so that we can all benefit from your expertise? If you mean tie and slur tweaks, they were added in a comment under the post. As for the rest of the functions, yes, i do intend to publish them in openlilylib/snippets. 2. When might HDLCCO (the highly-desirable Lilypond curve-code overhaul”) happen? No idea. It will definitely not happen before March (end of my internship), and i don't know how my situation will look like after that. I hope that i will have some time no later than summer sorry :-/ best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What should be the default B7 chord?
Am 11.01.2014 20:06, schrieb Carl Sorensen: There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord shape should be. I'm making a poll to determine what the users would prefer. Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the second chord (open chord in first position)? The second. Marc Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What should be the default B7 chord?
I vote for the second (open chord in first position). Thomas Original-Nachricht There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord shape should be. I'm making a poll to determine what the users would prefer. Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the second chord (open chord in first position)? Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: insert whitespace to fill line
- Original Message -
From: Dave dl.mcnam...@comcast.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:01 AM
Subject: insert whitespace to fill line
I'm trying to make music-snippet images using lilypond, but I'd like each
snippet to always have trailing whitespace so that each of these images
is
of the same width. Ultimately, these images will be embedded in an
emacs-org file (I am aware of lilypond-book).
I'm following the suggestions from the documentation, so I have a .ly file
something like:
\paper{
indent=0\mm
line-width=120\mm
oddFooterMarkup=##f
oddHeaderMarkup=##f
bookTitleMarkup = ##f
scoreTitleMarkup = ##f
}
\relative c' { c4 d e f | g a b c } % I'd like to insert whitespace to
fill line here
and compile it using 'lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts
-dinclude-eps-fonts --png test.ly' and it produces a file that is 241
pixels
wide.
If I make the snippet three bars, e.g. with c4 d e f | g a b c | c b a g,
I
get a file that is 335 pixels wide.
Ultimately, I'm going to insert these images into a document, and I'd like
to be able to use the same width for all of the images, and have the
staff/notes be the same size.
I don't want to key off of the height of the images (which is the same in
this case), because some of the snippets will span multiple lines.
I don't want to pad with s1's since the empty bars will be distracting.
Is there a way to pad the line with whitespace to that the produced
files
have the same width?
ragged-right= ##t
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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?
Am 12.01.2014 00:09, schrieb Eluze: Carl Sorensen-3 wrote There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord shape should be. I'm making a poll to determine what the users would prefer. Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the second chord (open chord in first position)? why not barred on fret 7 - it's easy to play (at least easier than your 1st example), you can strum all strings and in many cases it fits better. Ok, you can start a longish discussion about pros and cons of different chord shapes, but in the cases where the second variant fits nicely, the seveth fret form is just too far away from the rest of the chords. Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: Re: What should be the default B7 chord?
This message should go to the list IMHO Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: What should be the default B7 chord? Datum: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 04:30:39 -0600 Von: Ed Faulk efa...@faswebdesign.com An: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de Open chord, first position. Ed On 1/12/2014 4:17 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 11.01.2014 20:06, schrieb Carl Sorensen: There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord shape should be. I'm making a poll to determine what the users would prefer. Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the second chord (open chord in first position)? The second. Marc Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: v2.19 released, etc. (fwd)
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014, Alex Loomis wrote: The repository packages are updated rarely, the lilypond website's packages are updated pretty much day of. I am relatively new here but installed the version from the website because the standard Fedora package was too old - how long does it usually take to update the packages here: For Fedora the situation isn't that bad IMO if you stick to the stable versions. The current version in Fedora 20 updates-testing is Lilypond-2.18.0-1 which is quite new. Often even development versions are accepted and packaged in Fedora, which I think is not a good idea. sudo yum -y --enablerepo=*testing install lilypond to install. -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
function library from Fried project is now available.
Hi all, 2014/1/11 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca: 1. Would you consider putting all your tweaks and shortcuts in a file — on GitHub, maybe? ;) — so that we can all benefit from your expertise? Since you're another person who asks about this, i did what i could considering little time i have now: i copied all relevant files to openlilylib/snippets repo and did some very basic cleanup. http://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/fried-library-to-be-sorted There's still a lot of cleanup to do, but i don't have time now and probably won't have for next few months :( At least this should now be in a state where you can look at it, learn and use for your purposes. Of course, if anyone would like to contribute back by cleaning up the snippets, that would be very welcome! (there are some contributing instructions here https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/#contributing) I'm sorry, but that's really all i can do for quite some time. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What should be the default B7 chord?
2014/1/11 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord shape should be. I'm making a poll to determine what the users would prefer. Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the second chord (open chord in first position)? the second! :) j ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: insert whitespace to fill line
2014/1/12 Dave dl.mcnam...@comcast.net: Is there a way to pad the line with whitespace to that the produced files have the same width? I'm not sure if i understood correctly, but maybe you should change paper size instead of line-width, and don't use automatic image cropping? j ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NotateMe, iPad app
Would anyone try contacting them and suggesting they use LilyPond internally? I would if i had more time... 2014/1/12 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: Have anyone tried NotateMe ? Here's a demo : http://www.neuratron.com/notateme.html See also : http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/notateme-music-handwriting-app-out-of-beta/ Looks pretty cool though. Happy new year, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NotateMe, iPad app
2014/1/12 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Would anyone try contacting them and suggesting they use LilyPond internally? I would if i had more time... PS i believe it's *crucial* that LilyPond contacts such people and tries to get them using Lily. We won't get anywhere if we won't do that. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: insert whitespace to fill line
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: 2014/1/12 Dave dl.mcnam...@comcast.net: Is there a way to pad the line with whitespace to that the produced files have the same width? I'm not sure if i understood correctly, but maybe you should change paper size instead of line-width, and don't use automatic image cropping? I think the issue was that oneline snippets by default are ragged, so he has to use fixed linewidth (as he does) plus add ragged = ##f (as someone suggested) j ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Urs Liska openlilylib.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NotateMe, iPad app
Yup. It isn't very accurate and the amount if times you have to redraw an item for the application to do what you want it to do is better spent with a real tool. This is just a toy or for only the most basic notation. Save your money Sent from my iPhone On 12/01/2014, at 22:08, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Have anyone tried NotateMe ? Here's a demo : http://www.neuratron.com/notateme.html See also : http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/notateme-music-handwriting-app-out-of-beta/ Looks pretty cool though. Happy new year, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fwd: NotateMe, iPad app
Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote Have anyone tried NotateMe ? I haven't tried it. There's also Symphony Pen, which looks similar: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/symphony-pen Looks like a new category of music notation apps. -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-NotateMe-iPad-app-tp157693p157733.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Position of text and symbol above note
I tried to use \vcenter to simplify a markup where I used \translate to
align vertically text and musicglyphs. But the last string in this example
is slightly upper, do you know why?
\version 2.18.0
{
c1*4
\mark \markup {
\vcenter dal
\musicglyph #scripts.segno
\vcenter al
\musicglyph #scripts.coda
\vcenter poi segue
}
}
2014/1/8 Alex Loomis thebluemusic...@gmail.com
This should do the trick.
a4.^\markup{\vcenter To Coda\musicglyph #scripts.coda}
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM, muggle rauy...@aucklanduni.ac.nz wrote:
This works, but is there a way to vertically align the coda symbol so
that it
looks nicer?
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Re: Position of text and symbol above note
Hi Frederico, the last string in this example is slightly upper, do you know why? This is related to the feature I’ve been requesting for years — and which I reiterated just a few days ago (http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/baseline-referenced-text-markups-tp157452p157511.html). For some typographically-inexplicable reason, Lilypond does not use the text baseline as the reference point. Hence, because “dal al” has no descenders and “poi segue” does, they are not aligned correctly. Hope this helps (?). Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dotted notes
Hi Kieren,
Thanks for looking up the engraving rules.
According to Gould — which is, nowadays, the musical analogue of “according to
Hoyle” — the *tie* should be adjusted and not the *dot*.
So Boosey Hawkes’s style is not the convention, but rather an editorial quirk.
I tweaked Lilypond's ties and they look ok now with the dots 'up'. But I
must admit that I like the dotsDown when there is a fermata.
Greetings, Ed
\version 2.18.0
\markup{Boosey Hawkes}
{ \time 3/4
\relative f'' {
\dotsDown
| f2.~
| f2 f4-~
| f2 f4-~
| f2.~
| f4 d'2
| c2.\fermata
}
}
\markup{Default Lilypond}
{ \time 3/4
\relative f'' {
| f2.~
| f2 f4-~
| f2 f4-~
| f2.~
| f4 d'2
| c2.\fermata
}
}
\markup{Tweaked Lilypond}
{ \time 3/4
\relative f'' {
\override Dots.Y-extent = #'(-0.1 . 0.1)
| f2.~
| f2 f4-~
| f2 f4-~
| f2.~
| f4 d'2
\once \override Script.padding = #0.5
| c2.\fermata
}
}
\paper
{
indent = #0
ragged-right=##t
}
dotsDown.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: insert whitespace to fill line
Thanks for the suggestions, but still no luck. I've tried both settings for ragged-right; neither work. setting ragged-right=##f makes the systems stretch to fill the whole line; I do not like the way that this looks for, for example, a two-bar item. (setting it to true gives the behaviour indicated in the original post). setting paper-size instead of line-width does not seem to have an effect. Janek: how do I turn off automatic image cropping? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: insert whitespace to fill line
Hi David,
do you mean without streching? You can set the width of the StaffSymbol
to a fixed one. Is that what you want?
\version 2.18.0
\layout { \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'width = 70 }
{ a }
{ a b a b a b a b }
But please be aware, that if the content is longer than 'width', the
staffsymbol stops nonetheless.
\paper{ line-width = … } has to be adjusted to prevent this.
HTH,
Joram
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Re: insert whitespace to fill line
- Original Message - From: Dave dl.mcnam...@comcast.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: Re: insert whitespace to fill line Thanks for the suggestions, but still no luck. I've tried both settings for ragged-right; neither work. setting ragged-right=##f makes the systems stretch to fill the whole line; I do not like the way that this looks for, for example, a two-bar item. (setting it to true gives the behaviour indicated in the original post). setting paper-size instead of line-width does not seem to have an effect. Janek: how do I turn off automatic image cropping? I'm not aware of automatic image cropping, unless you're using the preview setting. I'd misunderstood earlier. If you use paper-width in you paper block, you'll control the size of the output image. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fw: Dashed line tuplet bracket
- Original Message - From: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net To: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:48 PM Subject: Dashed line tuplet bracket I've spent most of this afternoon creating a piece of Stockhausen in LilyPond, and the _last_ thing I need to add is a tuplet bracket with a dotted rather than solid line for the bracket. Can anyone point out how this is done, please? Resending from my registered email account. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: insert whitespace to fill line
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Re: Dashed line tuplet bracket
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Re: Position of text and symbol above note
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com writes:
I tried to use \vcenter to simplify a markup where I used \translate to
align vertically text and musicglyphs. But the last string in this example
is slightly upper, do you know why?
\version 2.18.0
{
c1*4
\mark \markup {
\vcenter dal
\musicglyph #scripts.segno
\vcenter al
\musicglyph #scripts.coda
\vcenter poi segue
}
}
Why would you use \vcenter? You don't _want_ the reference point to
move to the center.
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Re: Dashed line tuplet bracket
- Original Message - From: pls p.l.schm...@gmx.de To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Dashed line tuplet bracket On 12.01.2014, at 19:11, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net To: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:48 PM Subject: Dashed line tuplet bracket I've spent most of this afternoon creating a piece of Stockhausen in LilyPond, and the _last_ thing I need to add is a tuplet bracket with a dotted rather than solid line for the bracket. Can anyone point out how this is done, please? See http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/48529 (Wilbert Berendsen). Thanks. Bit annoying it's so simple and I'd not worked it out! -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dashed line tuplet bracket
See http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/48529 (Wilbert Berendsen). Thanks. Bit annoying it's so simple and I'd not worked it out! Ah, I was so close: \once \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t \once \override TupletBracket #'style = #'dashed-line \once \override TupletBracket #'dash-period = #1 \once \override TupletBracket #'dash-fraction = #1/6 I wrote 'dashed instead of 'dashed-line in the second line. Wrong guess. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/line_002dinterface tells me about the stencil callback. Is there a place in the docs that tell me the available line styles? Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Rest skipped in MIDI when music starts with it
Hi,
When, using Lilypond 2.19.0, if my score starts with a rest, the resulting
MIDI file does NOT start with a rest.
%minimal example
\score {
\version 2.19.0
\relative c' {
R1 | c d e f | R1 | f e d c |
}
\midi {}
}
%end of example
Result: The MIDI file starts without a rest in the first bar.
The rest in the 3rd bar behaves normally.
Is this a bug, or intentional?
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Re: Position of text and symbol above note
2014/1/12 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com writes:
I tried to use \vcenter to simplify a markup where I used \translate to
align vertically text and musicglyphs. But the last string in this
example
is slightly upper, do you know why?
\version 2.18.0
{
c1*4
\mark \markup {
\vcenter dal
\musicglyph #scripts.segno
\vcenter al
\musicglyph #scripts.coda
\vcenter poi segue
}
}
Why would you use \vcenter? You don't _want_ the reference point to
move to the center.
Mmmh, I'm always confused about what is the reference point...
I can use \translate or \general-align instead:
\markup {
Dal \translate #'(1 . 1) \musicglyph #scripts.segno
al \translate #'(1 . 1) \musicglyph #scripts.coda
poi segue
}
\markup {
Dal \general-align #Y #-.5 \musicglyph #scripts.segno
al \general-align #Y #-.5 \musicglyph #scripts.coda
poi segue
}
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Re: Rest skipped in MIDI when music starts with it
Martin Tarenskeen wrote
Hi,
When, using Lilypond 2.19.0, if my score starts with a rest, the resulting
MIDI file does NOT start with a rest.
%minimal example
\score {
\version 2.19.0
\relative c' {
R1 | c d e f | R1 | f e d c |
}
\midi {}
}
%end of example
Result: The MIDI file starts without a rest in the first bar.
The rest in the 3rd bar behaves normally.
Is this a bug, or intentional?
I can't reproduce that - could it be your midi player is wrong?
can you post the (converted) midi files?
Eluze
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Re: Changing the thickness of clusters
2014/1/5 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: Josh, Rummaging around I discovered this. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/clusterspannerbeacon It looks like the y extent is hard coded. Argh!! That description is *wrong*; extents aren't hard-coded. Someone who wrote that description deserves to be punished by having to use Finale v1 instead of LilyPond! How could anyone write something so ridiculously misleading, argh argh! Proper description is Extent (size) in the X direction, measured in staff-space units, relative to object's reference point. hth. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rest skipped in MIDI when music starts with it
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Eluze wrote:
Martin Tarenskeen wrote
Hi,
When, using Lilypond 2.19.0, if my score starts with a rest, the resulting
MIDI file does NOT start with a rest.
%minimal example
\score {
\version 2.19.0
\relative c' {
R1 | c d e f | R1 | f e d c |
}
\midi {}
}
%end of example
Result: The MIDI file starts without a rest in the first bar.
The rest in the 3rd bar behaves normally.
Is this a bug, or intentional?
I can't reproduce that - could it be your midi player is wrong?
You're right. It's my midiplayer, timidity, that doesn't count the first
rest.
When I use rosegarden or midi2ly I can see the rest is simply there.
Nothing wrong with lilypond.
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How to align object with far right edge of all kinds of barline?
I want to print a graphical object in the right margin that _just touches_ the
far right edge of the barline at the end of the staff line. I have been
experimenting with a postscript object included in a \mark \markup { }
expression as a RehearsalMark, with an adjustment of the break alignment
visibility. Vertical placement is not a problem, but I haven’t succeeded in
achieving precise horizontal placement that works for all kinds of barline.
The appearance is OK when the final barline on the line is a single barline,
but when there is a double or thin + thick barline, the object overlaps with
the barline. It appears that the default left alignment is to the _centre_ of
the overall barline width rather than to the _right edge_ of it. Having to fix
the horizontal placement separately for each kind of barline would work, of
course, but would be a pain in the butt, and may not work for all staff sizes.
I would prefer to find a general solution (including a fixed horizontal spacing
adjustment, if necessary) that works for _all_ kinds of barline.
It seemed to me that a solution that relies on the far right edge of the
barline ought to work, but I haven’t found any way of doing that from my
reading of the manuals.
Another possibility might be to align the object with the far right edge of the
staff itself (rather than of the barline at the end of the line) but I have not
found a way of doing that either.
Any suggestions as to how to go about looking for a solution would be greatly
appreciated.
Philip Thomas
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Re: Rest skipped in MIDI when music starts with it
My hack around this is to begin (each part) with
some arbitrary pitch/duration at _zero_ Velocity
(with the Rest just following, of course).
This has suited my purposes, though I expect it
might invite trouble for others.
Pete
Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Eluze wrote:
Martin Tarenskeen wrote
Hi,
When, using Lilypond 2.19.0, if my score starts with a rest, the
resulting
MIDI file does NOT start with a rest.
%minimal example
\score {
\version 2.19.0
\relative c' {
R1 | c d e f | R1 | f e d c |
}
\midi {}
}
%end of example
Result: The MIDI file starts without a rest in the first bar.
The rest in the 3rd bar behaves normally.
Is this a bug, or intentional?
I can't reproduce that - could it be your midi player is wrong?
You're right. It's my midiplayer, timidity, that doesn't count the
first rest.
When I use rosegarden or midi2ly I can see the rest is simply there.
Nothing wrong with lilypond.
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Re: How to align object with far right edge of all kinds of barline?
Philip Thomas-2 wrote
I want to print a graphical object in the right margin that _just touches_
the far right edge of the barline at the end of the staff line. I have
been experimenting with a postscript object included in a \mark \markup {
} expression as a RehearsalMark, with an adjustment of the break alignment
visibility. Vertical placement is not a problem, but I haven’t succeeded
in achieving precise horizontal placement that works for all kinds of
barline.
The appearance is OK when the final barline on the line is a single
barline, but when there is a double or thin + thick barline, the object
overlaps with the barline. It appears that the default left alignment is
to the _centre_ of the overall barline width rather than to the _right
edge_ of it. Having to fix the horizontal placement separately for each
kind of barline would work, of course, but would be a pain in the butt,
and may not work for all staff sizes.
can you share your code so far?!
Eluze
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page margins
Hi,
what is the reason that the default margins are so small?
They are (top/botton, left/right | inner/outer in mm):
5/6, 10/10 | 10/20
If I compare to printed scores, they are usually larger:
Edition Peters: 10/12, 17/17
Boosey Hawkes: 11/24, 14/14
I understand the goal to save space for the music content.
But there are some drawbacks:
- most printers cannot print so close to the paper edge
(especially top/bottom)
- this either cuts into the printed page content
- or requires to scale the content while printing
- it looks too squeezed (cf. the simple example below)
- it is non-standard compared to most publishers
In addition the top-markup-spacing is 0 which makes the title look very
squashed to the top. I would prefer something around 4 or 5 mm (or one
text line height).
I see that this has been discussed before in 2009:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/default-margins-tp44740p44741.html
with margin measurments for many publishers but without a visible
conclusion for Lilypond.
There is now (or some time ago) a Mutopia discussion whether larger
margins should be enforced or not:
https://github.com/chrissawer/The-Mutopia-Project/issues/141
but I think if LilyPond delivered printable default settings, this would
be the best solution.
I have no reference book on this at hand, but my proposal is:
10/15 15/15 | 10/20
and a top-markup-spacing basic-distance of about 4\mm.
Could this be added to the issue tracker?
Cheers,
Joram
% show the header placement
\version 2.18.0
\header {
title = A Default Title
composer = The Composer
opus = Op. 1
piece = Part 1
}
\paper {
% top-markup-spacing.basic-distance = 3
}
{ a1 \break a }
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Re: How to align object with far right edge of all kinds of barline?
Hi Philip,
I want to print a graphical object in the right margin that _just touches_
the far right edge of the barline at the end of the staff line. I have been
experimenting with a postscript object included in a \mark \markup { }
expression as a RehearsalMark, with an adjustment of the break alignment
visibility. Vertical placement is not a problem, but I haven’t succeeded in
achieving precise horizontal placement that works for all kinds of barline.
Why not override the barline stencil to include the item on top?
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: page margins
Hi Joram, what is the reason that the default margins are so small? I would rather say, what is the reason that almost all the defaults (margins, staff size, headers/titles, etc.) are so unattractive? ;) I’m hoping to submit a more attractive set of defaults for consideration, the moment I get my current engraving project done. (That being said, I’ve got a bunch of projects “in air traffic control”, so I may not ever get around to it…) Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
decrescendo mark
I want the decrescendo mark to extend from the first bar into the second bar,
ending under the c,4 node. What do I have to do to make this happen?
\version 2.16.0
melody = \relative c' {
\time 2/4
{ \stemDown d,8\ [ g g, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 b } |
{ \stemDown c,4\! c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest }
\bar ||
}
\score {
\context Voice {
\clef treble_8
\melody
}
} % score
% Local Variables: %
% tab-width: 4 %
% compile-command: lilypond --ps test1.ly %
% End: %
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RehearsalMark
I'm sorry, I can't make this example smaller and generate the problem.
I want line 2 to end with the mark Fine, but the mark Fine appears at the
start of line 3. How do I get Fine to appear at the end of line 2?
\version 2.16.0
melody = \relative c' {
\time 2/4
\partial 8
\repeat volta 2 {
{ c,8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp g'8 } |
{ \stemDown d8 [ g c, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp f'4 e } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 c } |
{ \stemDown g,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 c } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' b, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 d } |
{ \stemDown a4 g } \\ { \stemUp a8 [ f' g, e' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 e } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' e, c' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 d } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' d, b' ] } |
{ \stemDown c,4 c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest } \break
}
\repeat volta 2 {
{ c,8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp g'8 } |
{ \stemDown d8 [ g c, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp f'4 e } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 c } |
{ \stemDown g,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 c } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' b, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 d } |
{ \stemDown a4 g } \\ { \stemUp a8 [ f' g, e' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 e } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' e, c' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 d } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' d, b' ] } |
{ \stemDown c,4 c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest }
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark.self-alignment-X = #RIGHT
\mark Fine \break
}
\repeat volta 2 {
{ c,8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp g'8 } |
{ \stemDown d8 [ g c, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp f'4 e } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 c } |
{ \stemDown g,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 c } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' b, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 d } |
{ \stemDown a4 g } \\ { \stemUp a8 [ f' g, e' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 e } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' e, c' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 d } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' d, b' ] } |
{ \stemDown c,4 c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest } \break
}
}
\score {
\context Voice {
\clef treble_8
\melody
}
} % score
% Local Variables: %
% tab-width: 4 %
% compile-command: lilypond --ps test1.ly %
% End: %
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Overriding (dashed) ties when entering lyrics
When I put in lyrics, each syllable that I enter falls under a note in
melody, unless the note is tied over. Is there a way to override this
feature when the tie is say, dashed?
I've tried to put
\override Tie #'tieDashed = ##t
inside the context bracket
\layout {
\context { } }
but I just get an error:
warning: cannot find property type-check for `tieDashed' (backend-type?).
perhaps a typing error?
warning: doing assignment anyway
warning: cannot find property type-check for `tieDashed' (backend-type?).
perhaps a typing error?
warning: doing assignment anyway
warning: cannot find property type-check for `tieDashed' (backend-type?).
perhaps a typing error?
Here's my code:
\version 2.16.2
melody = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
a8 \tieDashed b~ \tieSolid b b c c d d
}
text = \lyricmode { \small
la la la la la
}
upper = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
a4 b c d
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\time 4/4
a2 c
}
\score {
\new Voice = mel { \autoBeamOn \melody }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \text
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff = upper \upper
\new Staff = lower \lower
\layout {
\context { \Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves }
}
\midi { }
}
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RE: RehearsalMark
Pabduhr,
If I attached the command line starting with \once \overide Score to the
c4 in the first voice the Fine moves to above the staff at the end of the
second line.
Try that and see if is what you want.
Mark
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To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RehearsalMark
I'm sorry, I can't make this example smaller and generate the problem.
I want line 2 to end with the mark Fine, but the mark Fine appears at
the start of line 3. How do I get Fine to appear at the end of line 2?
\version 2.16.0
melody = \relative c' {
\time 2/4
\partial 8
\repeat volta 2 {
{ c,8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp g'8 } |
{ \stemDown d8 [ g c, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp f'4 e } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 c } |
{ \stemDown g,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 c } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' b, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 d } |
{ \stemDown a4 g } \\ { \stemUp a8 [ f' g, e' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 e } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' e, c' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 d } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' d, b' ] } |
{ \stemDown c,4 c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest } \break
}
\repeat volta 2 {
{ c,8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp g'8 } |
{ \stemDown d8 [ g c, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp f'4 e } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 c } |
{ \stemDown g,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 c } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' b, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 d } |
{ \stemDown a4 g } \\ { \stemUp a8 [ f' g, e' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 e } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' e, c' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 d } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' d, b' ] } |
{ \stemDown c,4 c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest }
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark.self-alignment-X = #RIGHT
\mark Fine \break
}
\repeat volta 2 {
{ c,8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp g'8 } |
{ \stemDown d8 [ g c, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp f'4 e } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 c } |
{ \stemDown g,8 [ g' a, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 c } |
{ \stemDown b,8 [ g' b, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp d'4 d } |
{ \stemDown a4 g } \\ { \stemUp a8 [ f' g, e' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 e } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' e, c' ] } |
{ \stemDown f,4 d } \\ { \stemUp f8 [ d' d, b' ] } |
{ \stemDown c,4 c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest } \break
}
}
\score {
\context Voice {
\clef treble_8
\melody
}
} % score
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% tab-width: 4 %
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Re: decrescendo mark
I want the decrescendo mark to extend from the first bar into the second bar, ending under the c,4 node. What do I have to do to make this happen? Search the documentation for “to-barline”. Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: decrescendo mark
Pabuhr,
When using the ... , the upper voice comes first, i.e., { here upper
voice } \\ { here lower voice }
The music can extend beyond a single measure. Look at this:
\version 2.16.0
melody = \relative c' {
\time 2/4
{ b4 b | c r8 } \\ { d,8\ [ g g, g' ] | c,4\! r8 }
\bar ||
}
\score {
\context Voice {
\clef treble_8
\melody
}
}
Mark
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Subject: decrescendo mark
I want the decrescendo mark to extend from the first bar into the second
bar, ending under the c,4 node. What do I have to do to make this happen?
\version 2.16.0
melody = \relative c' {
\time 2/4
{ \stemDown d,8\ [ g g, g' ] } \\ { \stemUp b4 b } |
{ \stemDown c,4\! c8 \rest } \\ { \stemUp c'4 c8 \rest }
\bar ||
}
\score {
\context Voice {
\clef treble_8
\melody
}
} % score
% Local Variables: %
% tab-width: 4 %
% compile-command: lilypond --ps test1.ly % % End: %
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Re: page margins
I agree with Kieren. Page margins are oddly narrow and that maybe due to modern habits or the paper shortages during the wars. But it should definitely be something that is examined more closely. If people are interested I could take some measurements of scores to find out if there is useful pattern more than a rule of thumb as it were. Shane On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Joram, what is the reason that the default margins are so small? I would rather say, what is the reason that almost all the defaults (margins, staff size, headers/titles, etc.) are so unattractive? ;) I’m hoping to submit a more attractive set of defaults for consideration, the moment I get my current engraving project done. (That being said, I’ve got a bunch of projects “in air traffic control”, so I may not ever get around to it…) Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page margins
Hi Shane, I could take some measurements of scores to find out if there is useful pattern more than a rule of thumb as it were. I’ve already got lots of measurements, etc. The problem is getting them into a submittable form… Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: decrescendo mark
I want the decrescendo mark to extend from the first bar into the second bar, ending under the c,4 node. What do I have to do to make this happen? Search the documentation for “to-barline”. Perfect. If I'd flick one more page, I would have found it. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
fingering treatment
Hi all I came up with the following as way of indicating the
indecisive fingering in Godowsky's score from Urs's challenge. This is
definitely not the best since it involves 3 tweaks and additional
would mess up an analysis count should one ever take it onto there
heads to measure tenuto mark frequencies. It bothers me to use such a
mark for the wrong purpose. Anyone have any better solutions?
\version 2.18.0
{
c'4-\tweak #'Y-offset #02.5 -3 -\tweak #'Y-offset #4 -\tenuto-\tweak
#'Y-offset #4.5 -4
}
Shane
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Re: Overriding (dashed) ties when entering lyrics
2014/1/13 muggle rauy...@aucklanduni.ac.nz: When I put in lyrics, each syllable that I enter falls under a note in melody, unless the note is tied over. Is there a way to override this feature when the tie is say, dashed? Search for melismaBusyProperties in the documentation. hth, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page margins
2014/1/13 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de: Hi, what is the reason that the default margins are so small? Someone should do 'git blame' to see the commit that did this. ..actually, judging by the link you provided (http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/default-margins-tp44740p44741.html) the reason was probably to have line-width the same as in music published by respected publishers, which uses *different* paper size. They are (top/botton, left/right | inner/outer in mm): 5/6, 10/10 | 10/20 If I compare to printed scores, they are usually larger: Edition Peters: 10/12, 17/17 Boosey Hawkes: 11/24, 14/14 I understand the goal to save space for the music content. But there are some drawbacks: - most printers cannot print so close to the paper edge (especially top/bottom) - this either cuts into the printed page content - or requires to scale the content while printing - it looks too squeezed (cf. the simple example below) - it is non-standard compared to most publishers I agree, this was bothering me for ages. In addition the top-markup-spacing is 0 which makes the title look very squashed to the top. I would prefer something around 4 or 5 mm (or one text line height). I see that this has been discussed before in 2009: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/default-margins-tp44740p44741.html with margin measurments for many publishers but without a visible conclusion for Lilypond. There is now (or some time ago) a Mutopia discussion whether larger margins should be enforced or not: https://github.com/chrissawer/The-Mutopia-Project/issues/141 but I think if LilyPond delivered printable default settings, this would be the best solution. I have no reference book on this at hand, but my proposal is: 10/15 15/15 | 10/20 and a top-markup-spacing basic-distance of about 4\mm. I agree with left/right margins, but not top/bottom. Top/bottom are more tricky because you *want* to allow the page to compress when there's really a lot of content; so the adjustment should be done using compressible top-markup-spacing and the like. Keep in mind that the tagline is present on just one page, and the bottom whitespace area is quite different from bottom-margin because of tagline. Could this be added to the issue tracker? Let's first have an agreed-upon proposal. I suggest the following way forward: let's discuss horizontal margins separately from vertical ones. It should be a no-brainer to increase horizontal margins at least to 12 mm (although 15 seems indeed quite ok for me). Depending on how long it would take Kieren to get to this (2 weeks or 2 months?) we should or should not wait for him. Since we've just released 2.18, there should be no problem in making decisions quite swiftly. Unfortunately i won't be able to do much more here, but you have my support! j ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
