TrillSpanners not lining up

[David Stephen Grant]

Hello,
I'm having some trouble with TrillSpanners not lining up correctly. The
manuals seem to indicate that two successive TrillSpanners should be able
to line up vertically without any explicit \stopTrillSpan, but in the
following example the second trill is printed higher than the first, as if
avoiding a collision. Any ideas?
Best, David

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-as-lines#trills

\version "2.19.8"
{
  d''1\startTrillSpan |
  d''1\startTrillSpan |
  R1\stopTrillSpan |
}
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Re: Changing Tuning

[Federico Bruni]

Hi Omer

you forgot to reply to the list.
No, we've never received your file. Please send us a minimal example (if
possible) and we'll try to help you.

Anyway, is this the 10 string lute tuning?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lute#mediaviewer/File:Tuning-ren.png

It should be something like this:

\version "2.18.2"


music = {

c,16 d, e, f, g, c f a d' g'

}


\score {

\new StaffGroup <<

\new Staff { \clef "treble_8" \music }

\new TabStaff \with {

stringTunings = \stringTuning 

} \music

>>

}





2014-06-16 19:35 GMT+02:00 Omer Katzir :

> well, yes, not sure why, but now it works (my file was corrupted I'm not
> even sure I sent you guys the working version)
>
> Now there's two things I need if possible.
> 1. Is it possible to fine tune it, like removing the extra tab lines? lute
> tabalture has 6 like just like guitar, the 7th string is written below the
> lowest bass, the 8th is a\ (the \ is above the note, don't have it on this
> keyboard) 9th is b\\ (two lines) and 10th is a\\\ (three lines)
> 2. is it possible to fine tune the strings using Hz (assuming equal
> temperament)?
>
> Thank You again,
> Omer Katzir
> The Silent Troubadour - http://omerkatzir.com
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Federico Bruni 
> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried \stringTuning?
>>
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#custom-tablatures
>>  Il 16/giu/2014 19:01 "Omer Katzir"  ha scritto:
>>
>>>  I still couldn't really find how to change tuning, I did managed to
>>> change for french lute tabs, but it's in guitar tuning and six strings.
>>> works great but I need 10 strings, or at least 7)
>>>
>>> this is my code so far, I will be happy to get help.
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> Omer Katzir
>>> The Silent Troubadour - Http://omerkatzir.com
>>>
>>> \version "2.18.2"
>>>
>>>
>>> \header {
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> global = {
>>>
>>> \key f \major
>>>
>>> \time 4/4
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> upper = \relative c'{
>>>
>>> \global
>>>
>>> \voiceOne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> notes
>>>
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> lower = \relative c {
>>>
>>> \global
>>>
>>> \voiceTwo
>>>
>>>
>>> notes
>>>
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> \score {
>>>
>>> <<
>>>
>>> \new StaffGroup = "tab with traditional" <<
>>>
>>> \new Staff = "guitar traditional" <<
>>>
>>> \clef "treble_8"
>>>
>>> \context Voice = "upper" \upper
>>>
>>> \context Voice = "lower" \lower
>>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> \new TabStaff = "guitar tab" <<
>>>
>>> \set TabStaff.tablatureFormat = #fret-letter-tablature-format
>>>
>>> \context TabVoice = "upper" \upper
>>>
>>> \context TabVoice = "lower" \lower
>>>
>>>   >>
>>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>>  \layout { }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Custom accidental style (for cadenza)?

[David Nalesnik]

Hi,


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:33 PM, James Harkins  wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:21:10 AM HKT, David Nalesnik wrote:
>
>> Here's a variation which incorporates my little discovery :)
>
>
Oops--there's an error.  In the function "unnecessary-acc?," it should be
((forced? me) #f)


>
> Thanks again -- I owe you a beer, or some snippets of SuperCollider code,
> or something. (This exchange, incidentally, is one of the reasons why I
> prefer free-as-in-freedom software whenever possible.)
>

I'm glad to help!

Best,
David
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Re: TrillSpanners not lining up

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi David,

2014-06-17 13:01 GMT+02:00 David Stephen Grant :


> in the following example the second trill is printed higher than the
> first, as if avoiding a collision. Any ideas?
>

This should do the job :

%
\version "2.19.8"
{
  \once\override TrillSpanner.bound-details.right.attach-dir = #-1
  d''1\startTrillSpan |
  d''1\startTrillSpan |
  R1\stopTrillSpan |
}
%

Cheers,
Pierre
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Re: TrillSpanners not lining up

[David Stephen Grant]

Thanks Pierre, that works perfectly!
Best,
David


On 17 June 2014 13:56, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> 2014-06-17 13:01 GMT+02:00 David Stephen Grant :
>
>
>> in the following example the second trill is printed higher than the
>> first, as if avoiding a collision. Any ideas?
>>
>
> This should do the job :
>
> %
> \version "2.19.8"
> {
>   \once\override TrillSpanner.bound-details.right.attach-dir = #-1
>
>   d''1\startTrillSpan |
>   d''1\startTrillSpan |
>   R1\stopTrillSpan |
> }
> %
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>



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Re: Changing Tuning

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi Federico, Hi Omer,

I'd suggest to change Federico's code into a more lute like formulation :

%%
\version "2.18.2"

global = {

   \time 3/4

   \cadenzaOn

   \omit Stem

}


high = {

   \global

   s1 g,4 c f a d' g'

   \cadenzaOff

   \undo\omit Stem

   \bar "|"

   % mes.1

 f'8 e' d' c' b a

   % fin.

   \bar "|."

}


medium = {

   \global

   s1 g,4 c f a d' g'

}


low = {

   \global

   c,4 d, e, f,

}


\score {

   \new StaffGroup <<

 \new TabStaff = "High"

 \with {

   stringTunings = \stringTuning 

   \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing = #'((padding . 1))

   \override TimeSignature.style = #'single-digit

   \revert TimeSignature.stencil

 }

 { << \high \\ \medium >> }

 \new TabStaff = "Low"

 \with {

   \omit Clef

   \override StaffSymbol.stencil = ##f

   stringTunings = \stringTuning 

   fretLabels = \markuplist {

 "///a" \null

 "//a" \null

 "/a"

 \column { \vspace #.15 "a" }

   }

 }

 { \low }

 \new Staff {

   \clef "treble_8"

   << \high \\ \medium \\ \low >>

 }

   >>

   \layout {

 \context {

   \TabStaff

   tablatureFormat = #fret-letter-tablature-format

 }

   }

}




HTH,

Pierre
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Re: Changing Tuning

[Federico Bruni]

2014-06-17 15:41 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>:

> I'd suggest to change Federico's code into a more lute like formulation :


Thank you: obviously, I know nothing about lute tablature :)

You guys may be interested in this issue:
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3065
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Re: Changing Tuning

[Omer Katzir]

Thank, That’s what I needed
so many options!

On Jun 17, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Pierre Perol-Schneider 
 wrote:

> Hi Federico, Hi Omer,
> 
> I'd suggest to change Federico's code into a more lute like formulation :
> 
> %%
> \version "2.18.2"
> 
> global = {
>\time 3/4
>\cadenzaOn
>\omit Stem
> }
> 
> high = {
>\global
>s1 g,4 c f a d' g'
>\cadenzaOff
>\undo\omit Stem
>\bar "|"
>% mes.1
>  f'8 e' d' c' b a
>% fin.
>\bar "|."
> }
> 
> medium = {
>\global
>s1 g,4 c f a d' g'
> }
> 
> low = {
>\global
>c,4 d, e, f,
> }
> 
> \score {
>\new StaffGroup <<
>  \new TabStaff = "High"
>  \with {
>stringTunings = \stringTuning 
>\override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing = #'((padding . 1))
>\override TimeSignature.style = #'single-digit
>\revert TimeSignature.stencil
>  }
>  { << \high \\ \medium >> }
>  \new TabStaff = "Low"
>  \with {
>\omit Clef
>\override StaffSymbol.stencil = ##f
>stringTunings = \stringTuning 
>fretLabels = \markuplist {
>  "///a" \null
>  "//a" \null
>  "/a"
>  \column { \vspace #.15 "a" }
>}
>  }
>  { \low }
>  \new Staff {
>\clef "treble_8"
><< \high \\ \medium \\ \low >>
>  }
>>>
>\layout {
>  \context {
>\TabStaff
>tablatureFormat = #fret-letter-tablature-format
>  }
>}
> }
> 
> 
> HTH,
> Pierre
>  
> 


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Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi! (again)

[Davide Liessi]

Dear Frescobaldi&LilyPond&Mac users,
some months ago I published a DMG disk image containing an
experimental Frescobaldi.app bundle.

Some packaging problems were reported ([1]):
- lack of MIDI support (PortMIDI was not included),
- impossibility to run convert-ly and musicxml2ly (the wrong Python
interpreter was used for the scripts bundled in LilyPond.app).

During the last days I was able to fix these problems (at least on my machine).
I uploaded a new version of Frescobaldi.app, based on the newly
released 2.0.16, at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/whu5qnn5pys81ix/Frescobaldi-2.0.16-devapp-20140616.dmg

The application contains some 64 bit code, so it won't run on machines
with 32 bit CPU (I'll try to solve this in the next iteration).

I would be very grateful if you could download the application, test
it and report any issues.
In particular you should test if MIDI output is working [2] and if you
are able to update a file with convert-ly and to import a MusicXML
file (example MusicXML files at [3]).

The test should be harmless: the only collateral effect is that any
change you'll make to the settings inside this application bundle will
be picked up by your usual installation of Frescobaldi, since they'll
share the same preferences file. [4]

The previous tests revealed only the mentioned problems, so the
application should be quite stable.
However this application bundle is still considered experimental, so I
don't recommend it for everyday use (although I really appreciate
people testing it in everyday use cases).
After the tests I advise you to delete the application bundle and wait
for the official release. [5]

Last but not least, I would like to thank once again the users who
tested the previous version of the application.

Best wishes.
Davide


[1] The "splash screen bug"
(https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/428) and some very
critical usability problems (in particular compatibility with screen
readers) were also reported, but they are certainly unrelated to the
installation method, so I didn't address them.

[2] I remind you that in order to have MIDI support
FluidSynth/qsynth/SimpleSynth must be running and Frescobaldi must
recognize the MIDI ports (you should either start *synth before
Frescobaldi or refresh the MIDI ports in Frescobaldi's preferences).

[3] http://www.musicxml.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/xmlsamples.zip

[4] Actually, if your usual version of Frescobaldi is older than
October 2013, your settings will become inaccessible from that
version, while they will still be accessible from versions of the
program newer than that date.
But if you're running such an old version, you should seriously
consider updating to the newly released 2.0.16 (it will be available
through MacPorts in a few days): Frescobaldi has improved a whole lot
in the last months!

[5] To avoid messing with your current setup (except for the settings
changes mentioned in [4]) and forgetting to delete the application
bundle after the test, you can run the application directly from the
disk image, without copying it to the /Applications directory.

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\afterGrace \glissando draws incorrect line?

[steve]

 Howdy!

  I have a problem getting lilypond to draw the correct glissando
line...

Here is  a pdf and lilypond source file

http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test.pdf
http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test.ly

  and another attempt

http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test2.pdf
http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test2.ly

I want the glissando line to go from   fis - > a  and from dis -> fis

but instead of dis -> fis I get a-> fis ???

   Ideas?

here is a sample lilypond source

\version "2.18.0"

global = {
  \time 3/4
  \key e \major
  \clef "G_8"
}

 voiceone = \relative c' {
a''4 < b,, dis a > dis16 a fis' dis |
a'4 < dis,, a' b > a'16 fis b( a) |
dis4 < fis, a dis >
<<
  \new Voice \voiceOne { \afterGrace fis4 \glissando a8 }
  \new Voice \voiceTwo { \stemUp a4 }
  \new Voice \voiceThree { \afterGrace dis4 \glissando fis8 }
>>
< a, fis' >4 < gis e' >
 }

 voicetwo = \relative c {
r4 < b dis > r |
r4 b b |
r4 b b |
e,2
 }

  guitar = << \voiceone \\ \voicetwo >>

\score {
\new Staff { << \global \guitar >> }
\layout { }
   }



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Re: \afterGrace \glissando draws incorrect line?

[James]

On 17/06/14 19:43, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote:
>  Howdy!
>
>   I have a problem getting lilypond to draw the correct glissando
> line...
>
> Here is  a pdf and lilypond source file
>
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test.pdf
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test.ly
>
>   and another attempt
>
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test2.pdf
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test2.ly
>
> I want the glissando line to go from   fis - > a  and from dis -> fis
>
> but instead of dis -> fis I get a-> fis ???
>
>Ideas?
>
> here is a sample lilypond source
>
> \version "2.18.0"
>
> global = {
>   \time 3/4
>   \key e \major
>   \clef "G_8"
> }
>
>  voiceone = \relative c' {
> a''4 < b,, dis a > dis16 a fis' dis |
> a'4 < dis,, a' b > a'16 fis b( a) |
> dis4 < fis, a dis >
> <<
>   \new Voice \voiceOne { \afterGrace fis4 \glissando a8 }
>   \new Voice \voiceTwo { \stemUp a4 }
>   \new Voice \voiceThree { \afterGrace dis4 \glissando fis8 }
> >>
> < a, fis' >4 < gis e' >
>  }
>
>  voicetwo = \relative c {
> r4 < b dis > r |
> r4 b b |
> r4 b b |
> e,2
>  }
>
>   guitar = << \voiceone \\ \voicetwo >>
>
> \score {
> \new Staff { << \global \guitar >> }
> \layout { }
>}
>

I changed the

<<
  \new Voice \voiceOne { \afterGrace fis4 \glissando a8 }
  \new Voice \voiceTwo { \stemUp a4 }
  \new Voice \voiceThree { \afterGrace dis4 \glissando fis8 }
>>



to

<<  \afterGrace dis'4 \glissando fis8 \\ \stemUp a,4 \\ \afterGrace
fis4 \glissando a8 >>

and I get the correct glissandoes but I also get a warning:

warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
<
  a, fis' >4 < gis e' >
new file.ly:13:21: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
<<  \afterGrace
dis'4 \glissando fis8 \\ \stemUp a,4 \\ \afterGrace
fis4 \glissando a8 >>

So it's something to do with that construction but I cannot tell you why.

If that helps?

James

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Re: \afterGrace \glissando draws incorrect line?

[Thomas Morley]

2014-06-17 20:43 GMT+02:00  :
>
>  Howdy!
>
>   I have a problem getting lilypond to draw the correct glissando
> line...
>
> Here is  a pdf and lilypond source file
>
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test.pdf
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test.ly
>
>   and another attempt
>
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test2.pdf
> http://gooeytar.com/projects/test/test2.ly
>
> I want the glissando line to go from   fis - > a  and from dis -> fis
>
> but instead of dis -> fis I get a-> fis ???
>
>Ideas?
>
> here is a sample lilypond source
>
> \version "2.18.0"
>
> global = {
>   \time 3/4
>   \key e \major
>   \clef "G_8"
> }
>
>  voiceone = \relative c' {
> a''4 < b,, dis a > dis16 a fis' dis |
> a'4 < dis,, a' b > a'16 fis b( a) |
> dis4 < fis, a dis >
> <<
>   \new Voice \voiceOne { \afterGrace fis4 \glissando a8 }
>   \new Voice \voiceTwo { \stemUp a4 }
>   \new Voice \voiceThree { \afterGrace dis4 \glissando fis8 }
> >>
> < a, fis' >4 < gis e' >
>  }
>
>  voicetwo = \relative c {
> r4 < b dis > r |
> r4 b b |
> r4 b b |
> e,2
>  }
>
>   guitar = << \voiceone \\ \voicetwo >>
>
> \score {
> \new Staff { << \global \guitar >> }
> \layout { }
>}
>
 How about:

\version "2.18.0"

global = {
  \time 3/4
  \key e \major
  \clef "G_8"
}

 voiceone = \relative c' {
a''4 < b,, dis a > dis16 a fis' dis |
a'4 < dis,, a' b > a'16 fis b( a) |
dis4 < fis, a dis >
%% changed input order:
< fis dis' a  >\glissando
%% thanks to David K:
\grace { \bar "" 8 \bar "|" }
< a fis' >4 < gis e' >
 }

 voicetwo = \relative c {
r4 < b dis > r |
r4 b b |
r4 b b |
e,2
 }

  guitar = << \voiceone \\ \voicetwo >>

\score {
\new Staff { << \global \guitar >> }
\layout { }
   }

HTH,
  Harm

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Re: \afterGrace \glissando draws incorrect line?

[steve]

>
>  voiceone = \relative c' {
> a''4 < b,, dis a > dis16 a fis' dis |
> a'4 < dis,, a' b > a'16 fis b( a) |
> dis4 < fis, a dis >
> %% changed input order:
> < fis dis' a  >\glissando
> %% thanks to David K:
> \grace { \bar "" 8 \bar "|" }
> < a fis' >4 < gis e' >
>  }

  This works!

   thanx - steve

>
> HTH,
>   Harm
>



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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi! (again)

[flup2]

I've tested on one of my configurations and previous issues are resolved for
me. :-)

Philippe



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Re: \afterGrace \glissando draws incorrect line?

[steve]

>
>
> I changed the
>
> <<
>   \new Voice \voiceOne { \afterGrace fis4 \glissando a8 }
>   \new Voice \voiceTwo { \stemUp a4 }
>   \new Voice \voiceThree { \afterGrace dis4 \glissando fis8 }
> >>
>
>
>
> to
>
> <<  \afterGrace dis'4 \glissando fis8 \\ \stemUp a,4 \\ \afterGrace
> fis4 \glissando a8 >>
>
> and I get the correct glissandoes but I also get a warning:
>
> warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
> <
>   a, fis' >4 < gis e' >
> new file.ly:13:21: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
> <<  \afterGrace
> dis'4 \glissando fis8 \\ \stemUp a,4 \\ \afterGrace
> fis4 \glissando a8 >>
>
> So it's something to do with that construction but I cannot tell you why.
>
> If that helps?


 Thanx, the best I can get is this

http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/test/test3.pdf
http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/test/test3.ly

  which has the stems wrong and using \stemUp doesn't fix it.

   ???

  -steve


>
> James
>



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music

[keira mccook]

I have dyslexia and i find it hard to read sheet music.I am starting uni in 
September to study music. I've been instructed to improve my reading but it 
seems impossible.is there any way you can help.


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Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

[Knute Snortum]

I want to change the direction of a tuplet bracket (up in this case).  I
read the manual on tuplets and it says

"Tuplet brackets may be manually placed above or below the staff; see Direction
and placement

."

But neither the tuplet nor the direction section has an example.  I figured
the syntax would be like tweaks:

\version "2.18.2"
\language "english"

\relative c'' {
  ^\tuplet 3/2 2 { 4 f  f  f }
}

But this produces a syntax error.  I've tried putting the caret other
places to no avail.

So what's the correct syntax?  And can an example be put in either the
tuplet or the direction section of the manual?

Thanks.

Knute Snortum
(via Gmail)
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Re: Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

[Uns Liska]

override the direction property should work.

On 17. Juni 2014 23:01:53 MESZ, Knute Snortum  wrote:
>I want to change the direction of a tuplet bracket (up in this case). 
>I
>read the manual on tuplets and it says
>
>"Tuplet brackets may be manually placed above or below the staff; see
>Direction
>and placement
>
>."
>
>But neither the tuplet nor the direction section has an example.  I
>figured
>the syntax would be like tweaks:
>
>\version "2.18.2"
>\language "english"
>
>\relative c'' {
>  ^\tuplet 3/2 2 { 4 f  f  f }
>}
>
>But this produces a syntax error.  I've tried putting the caret other
>places to no avail.
>
>So what's the correct syntax?  And can an example be put in either the
>tuplet or the direction section of the manual?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Knute Snortum
>(via Gmail)
>
>
>
>
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Re: music

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 17.06.2014 18:12, schrieb keira mccook:

I have dyslexia and i find it hard to read sheet music.I am starting uni in
September to study music. I've been instructed to improve my reading but it
seems impossible.is there any way you can help.

Hello Keira,

I don’t know if this is the right place to search for help with your 
problem. LilyPond is a music typesetting program, and it’s firstly 
intended to produce sheet music which follows usual standards, though 
with better typographical quality and thus also distinctly better 
readable than most other typesetting available. Nevertheless I don’t 
think it will be a substantial support in your case. The only thing 
which comes to my mind (and which has something to do with LilyPond) is 
Clairnote, an alternative notation system which claims to be easier to 
read in principle: . I’ve no idea whether this 
is in fact an improvement, and less so, if it comes to your case.

Else I can only say:
– Improvise! Improvisation is often underestimated and an extremely 
valuable way of making music. It does of course depend on the kind of 
music you’re in: it’s possible to improvise in (almost) every style, but 
for some it’s more common. And it’s important to have a good teacher, I 
think.
– Or learn by heart! It’s what blind musicians do, and most certainly 
it’s not only a disadvantage of not being able to read sheet music, but 
it also allows a much deeper understanding of the music, both 
intellectually and emotionally, than if you only ever read the music 
from sheets.


I hope these small thought are of some use to you.
Best regards,

Simon

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Re: Changing Tuning

[Omer Katzir]

OK, so now that I tried it, I still need some changes to optimize it like I’m 
writing on paper.
as I’m not a master in Lilypond (yet) I will have to ask the hive mind again

Basically I use two staves, one for bass one for the upper voices (usually 
two). Now, I tried to add a staff in the example you sent me, both by creating 
new staff group below the low tab staff and by just adding
  \new staff {
\clef “bass”
<<\low>>
}

I got errors all over the place, I can paste if really needed, but it seems 
like I’m just missing something, I guess I’m getting confused because i’m 
pretty much a nub when it comes to advance tactics.  

Thank You again for your help
Omer Katzir
The Silent Troubadour 
http://omerkatir.com


On Jun 17, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Federico Bruni  wrote:

> 2014-06-17 15:41 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider 
> :
> I'd suggest to change Federico's code into a more lute like formulation :
> 
> Thank you: obviously, I know nothing about lute tablature :)
> 
> You guys may be interested in this issue:
> https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3065
> 

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Re: Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

[Thomas Morley]

2014-06-17 23:11 GMT+02:00 Uns Liska :
> override the direction property should work.
>
> On 17. Juni 2014 23:01:53 MESZ, Knute Snortum  wrote:
>>
>> I want to change the direction of a tuplet bracket (up in this case).  I
>> read the manual on tuplets and it says
>>
>> "Tuplet brackets may be manually placed above or below the staff; see
>> Direction and placement."
>>
>> But neither the tuplet nor the direction section has an example.  I
>> figured the syntax would be like tweaks:
>>
>> \version "2.18.2"
>> \language "english"
>>
>> \relative c'' {
>>   ^\tuplet 3/2 2 { 4 f  f  f }
>> }
>>
>> But this produces a syntax error.  I've tried putting the caret other
>> places to no avail.
>>
>> So what's the correct syntax?  And can an example be put in either the
>> tuplet or the direction section of the manual?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Knute Snortum
>> (via Gmail)

\tupletUp


Cheers,
  Harm

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RE: Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

[Steven Weber]

\tupletUp, \tupletDown & \tupletNeutral.

 

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/learning/within_002dstaff-objects.nl.html

 

--Steven

 

From: lilypond-user-bounces+panteck=hotmail@gnu.org 
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+panteck=hotmail@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Knute 
Snortum
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:02 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

 

I want to change the direction of a tuplet bracket (up in this case).  I read 
the manual on tuplets and it says 

 

"Tuplet brackets may be manually placed above or below the staff; see  
 
Direction and placement."


 

But neither the tuplet nor the direction section has an example.  I figured the 
syntax would be like tweaks:

 

\version "2.18.2"

\language "english"

 

\relative c'' {

  ^\tuplet 3/2 2 { 4 f  f  f }

}

 

But this produces a syntax error.  I've tried putting the caret other places to 
no avail.

 

So what's the correct syntax?  And can an example be put in either the tuplet 
or the direction section of the manual?

 

Thanks.

 

Knute Snortum

(via Gmail)

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RE: Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

[Javier Ruiz-Alma]

>I want to change the direction of a tuplet bracket (up in this case).  

Try \tupletUp ahead of where you wish to implement the change in 
direction…there’s also \tupletDown, \tupletNeutral

 

 

>I read the manual on tuplets and it says 

>"Tuplet brackets may be manually placed above or below the staff; see  
> 
>Direction and placement."
>But neither the tuplet nor the direction section has an example

 

I agree, the NR section you refer to could be made clearer.  You are given a 
link for manual placement, while the positioning commands are just a few lines 
down on the primary page under the heading “Predefined commands”.

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Re: Changing Tuning

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi,

2014-06-17 23:17 GMT+02:00 Omer Katzir :


> Basically I use two staves, one for bass one for the upper voices (usually
> two). Now, I tried to add a staff in the example you sent me, both by
> creating new staff group below the low tab staff and by just adding
>   \new staff {
> \clef “bass”
> <<\low>>
> }
>
> I got errors all over the place, I can paste if really needed, but it
> seems like I’m just missing something, I guess I’m getting confused because
> i’m pretty much a nub when it comes to advance tactics.
>


See enclosed.
Cheers,
Pierre
\version "2.18.2"
%=> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Changing-Tuning-td163390.html

global = {
  \time 3/4
  \cadenzaOn
  \omit Stem
}

high = {
  \global
  s1 g,4 c f a d' g'
  \cadenzaOff
  \undo\omit Stem
  \bar "|" 
  % mes.1
f'8 e' d' c' b a
  % fin.
  \bar "|."
}

medium = {
  \global
  s1 g,4 c f a d' g'
}

low = { 
  \global
  c,4 d, e, f, s1.
  % mes.1
R2.
  % fin.
}

\score {
  \new StaffGroup <<
\new TabStaff = "High"
\with {
  stringTunings = \stringTuning 
  \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing = #'((padding . 0)) 
  \override TimeSignature.style = #'single-digit
  \override TimeSignature.X-offset = #-2
  \override TimeSignature.font-size = #3
  \revert TimeSignature.stencil
}
{
  << \high \\ \medium >>
}
\new TabStaff = "Low"
\with {
  \omit StaffSymbol
  \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing = #'(
(basic-distance . 2)
(padding . 2)) 
  stringTunings = \stringTuning 
  fretLabels = \markuplist { 
"///a" \null 
"//a" \null 
"/a" 
 \column { \vspace #.15 "a" }
  }
}
{
  \low
}
\new GrandStaff <<
  \new Staff { 
\clef "treble_8" 
<< \high \\ \medium>>
  }
  \new Staff { 
\clef "bass" 
<< \low >>
  }
>>
  >>
  \layout {
\context {
  \TabStaff
  \omit Clef
  tablatureFormat = #fret-letter-tablature-format
}
  }
}
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Re: music

[Hans Aberg]

On 17 Jun 2014, at 18:12, keira mccook  wrote:

> I have dyslexia and i find it hard to read sheet music.I am starting uni in 
> September to study music. I've been instructed to improve my reading but it 
> seems impossible.is there any way you can help.

You need to figure out what you need, perhaps from forums like [1], where some 
give a number of helping suggestions, and LilyPond might be able to do some; 
others say that music reading training will be enough. Yet others point out it 
heavily depends on the individual.

1. http://www.violinist.com/discussion/response.cfm?ID=9023



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Re: Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

[James]

On 17/06/14 22:47, Javier Ruiz-Alma wrote:
>
> />I want to change the direction of a tuplet bracket (up in this case).  /
>
> Try \tupletUp ahead of where you wish to implement the change in
> direction...there's also \tupletDown, \tupletNeutral
>
>  
>
>  
>
> />I read the manual on tuplets and it says /
>
> />"Tuplet brackets may be manually placed above or below the staff;
> see Direction and placement
> ."
> >But neither the tuplet nor the direction section has an example/
>
>  
>
> I agree, the NR section you refer to could be made clearer.  You are
> given a link for manual placement, while the positioning commands are
> just a few lines down on the primary page under the heading
> "Predefined commands".
>
>
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Added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3956

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Re: Changing the direction of a tuplet bracket

[Knute Snortum]

\tupletUp

Got it.  Thanks to all.


Knute Snortum
(via Gmail)


On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:56 PM, James  wrote:

>  On 17/06/14 22:47, Javier Ruiz-Alma wrote:
>
>  *>I want to change the direction of a tuplet bracket (up in this case).
>  *
>
> Try \tupletUp ahead of where you wish to implement the change in
> direction…there’s also \tupletDown, \tupletNeutral
>
>
>
>
>
> *>I read the manual on tuplets and it says *
>
>
> *>"Tuplet brackets may be manually placed above or below the staff;
> see Direction and placement
> ."
> >But neither the tuplet nor the direction section has an example*
>
>
>
> I agree, the NR section you refer to could be made clearer.  You are given
> a link for manual placement, while the positioning commands are just a few
> lines down on the primary page under the heading “Predefined commands”.
>
>
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Re: music

[Tim Reeves]

> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:39:17 +0200
> From: Hans Aberg 
> To: keira mccook 
> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: music
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On 17 Jun 2014, at 18:12, keira mccook  wrote:
> 
> > I have dyslexia and i find it hard to read sheet music.I am starting 
uni in 
> > September to study music. I've been instructed to improve my reading 
but it 
> > seems impossible.is there any way you can help.
> 
> You need to figure out what you need, perhaps from forums like [1], 
> where some give a number of helping suggestions, and LilyPond might 
> be able to do some; others say that music reading training will be 
> enough. Yet others point out it heavily depends on the individual.
> 
> 1. http://www.violinist.com/discussion/response.cfm?ID=9023
> 
> 

Keira,

Based on the discussion I perused at the link Hans provided, Lilypond 
might be able to help the dyslexic musician through the use of color:

Check out "Coloring notes depending on their pitch" as a starting point at 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/pitches

Of course Lilypond is very flexible, and once you have the music entered 
(the hard part) you can adjust things like sizes and spacing, if that can 
help, too.

Just my 2 cents. I am not an expert.


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Re: music

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

2014-06-18 0:39 GMT+02:00 Hans Aberg :


> You need to figure out what you need, perhaps from forums like [1], where
> some give a number of helping suggestions, and LilyPond might be able to do
> some; others say that music reading training will be enough. Yet others
> point out it heavily depends on the individual.
>
> 1. http://www.violinist.com/discussion/response.cfm?ID=9023
>

Good idea !
http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25013
http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31063&p=458630&hilit=dyslexia#p318135

Cheers,
Pierre
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Re: [Frescobaldi] Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi! (again)

[Paul Morris]

Dear Davide,

I am glad to report that everything has gone well so far with testing the new 
app bundle.  I was able to successfully play midi, run convert-ly, and convert 
musicxml files with musicxml2ly.  I will keep using it and let you know if I 
notice any problems.

(I am running osx 10.9.3, operating system info from About Frescobaldi: 
Darwin-13.2.0-x86_64-i386-64bit)

Thank you for all your work on this, and thanks to Wilbert and the other 
Frescobaldi contributors for the newest 2.0.16 version!

All the best,
-Paul
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Re: Changing Tuning

[David Kastrup]

Omer Katzir  writes:

> OK, so now that I tried it, I still need some changes to optimize it like I’m 
> writing on paper.
> as I’m not a master in Lilypond (yet) I will have to ask the hive mind again
>
> Basically I use two staves, one for bass one for the upper voices (usually 
> two). Now, I tried to add a staff in the example you sent me, both by 
> creating new staff group below the low tab staff and by just adding
>   \new staff {
>   \clef “bass”
> <<\low>>
> }
>
> I got errors all over the place, I can paste if really needed, but it
> seems like I’m just missing something,

If you are "just missing something", pointing it out when you actually
give the example that does not work instead of hinting at it would be
much easier.

However, the short quote above contains several errors.  You write staff
instead of Staff, you use “” quote marks (symmetric) instead of ""
(straight double).  And the placement of \low in a simultaneous music
construct looks somewhat fishy though it will probably work as \low is
the only "simultaneous" music in it.

> I guess I’m getting confused because i’m pretty much a nub when it
> comes to advance tactics.

Copy and paste or even just careful retyping are not all that advanced
tactics.  Computers are picky.

-- 
David Kastrup

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