Re: Terminology question
Thanks everybody for your help! I asked the question because MusicXML describes an element of the figured bass this way: 3 8 I’ll use ‘figured bass element’ and 'figured bass elements’, they suit my purpose nicely. A nice day! JM > Le 15 juin 2021 à 20:31, Hans Åberg a écrit : > > It is Merriam–Webster—there are many Webster. And no. > > >> On 15 Jun 2021, at 20:24, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: >> >> Hans, >> >> For Webster is a haircut only just a hair cut? >> >> M >> >> From: lilypond-user >> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of >> Hans Åberg >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 9:08 AM >> To: Jacques Menu >> Cc: lilypond-user >> Subject: Re: Terminology question >> >> >>> On 15 Jun 2021, at 16:20, Jacques Menu wrote: >>> >>> What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’,… >> >> It is figured basses, or continuos (singular continuo), according to >> Merriam-Webster Dictionary. >
Re: Inserting a one-time Volta bracket
Am Di., 15. Juni 2021 um 08:44 Uhr schrieb Brent Annable : > > Here are my efforts so far. I don't think this solution is very elegant, but > if I could find a way to extend the measure length to accommodate the text, > this might work. But I'm sure there must be an easier way. > > Sorry for the massive file, but I thought it was best to include the entire > context since the spanner for the bracket seems to be affected by lots of > different things. > > Brent. > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 14:41, Brent Annable wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to create the effect in the picture, of a one-time Volta bracket >> above the staff with the text "last time only". I would prefer the text to >> be inside the bracket, but that's another matter. Right now I'm just looking >> for a way to get the bracket up there - I've tried using actual Volta >> repeats and deleting/removing/changing things with tips from previous emails >> and snippets, but after an hour I'm just not getting anywhere. >> >> Does somebody know an easy way? >> >> Many thanks and regards, >> >> Brent. Why not one of below? \version "2.22.0" \allowVoltaHook "|" #(define-bar-line "|-foo" "|" #f "|") { \override Score.VoltaBracket.font-name = "" \override Score.VoltaBracket.springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods \override Score.VoltaBracket.minimum-length = 40 \repeat volta 2 R1 \alternative { { \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "foobarbuzzfoobarbuzz")) R \bar "|-foo" } } } Dan cleaned up some volta stuff: \version "2.23.0" \allowVoltaHook "|" { R1 \override Score.VoltaBracket.text = "foobarbuzzfoobarbuzz" \override Score.VoltaBracket.font-name = "" \override Score.VoltaBracket.springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods \override Score.VoltaBracket.minimum-length = 40 \volta 1 R1 } HTH, Harm
Re: Terminology question
It is Merriam–Webster—there are many Webster. And no. > On 15 Jun 2021, at 20:24, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Hans, > > For Webster is a haircut only just a hair cut? > > M > > From: lilypond-user > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Hans > Åberg > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 9:08 AM > To: Jacques Menu > Cc: lilypond-user > Subject: Re: Terminology question > > >> On 15 Jun 2021, at 16:20, Jacques Menu wrote: >> >> What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’,… > > It is figured basses, or continuos (singular continuo), according to > Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
RE: Terminology question
Hans, For Webster is a haircut only just a hair cut? M From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Hans Åberg Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 9:08 AM To: Jacques Menu Cc: lilypond-user Subject: Re: Terminology question On 15 Jun 2021, at 16:20, Jacques Menu mailto:imj-muz...@bluewin.ch> > wrote: What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’,… It is figured basses, or continuos (singular continuo), according to Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
Re: Terminology question
> On 15 Jun 2021, at 16:20, Jacques Menu wrote: > > What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’,… It is figured basses, or continuos (singular continuo), according to Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
Re: Terminology question
It never crossed my mind that figured bass was anything other than a non countable noun. Just like fish or sheep. As a spoken term it sounds more like a tax term. Shane On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 11:01 AM David Sumbler wrote: > I think the real question is "what do you call a single figure or column > of figures under a bass note". So far as I am aware, the term "figured > bass" means a bass line (not a single note) that has figuring to indicate > the harmonies. > > If I want to talk about a number of such bass lines - e.g. the bass lines > of several pieces so notated - then I would call them "figured basses". > > I'm not sure that I have ever heard of a term to describe one single > harmony so notated. > > Not a very helpful answer to your query, perhaps, but that's the usage I > am familiar with. > > David > > > On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 16:20 +0200, Jacques Menu wrote: > > Hello folks, > > What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’, if that applies, to > denote several occurrences of the figures in a score, the same way has > there can be several harmonies? Maybe ‘figured bass figures’? > > In the example below, there 5 such occurrences: > > Thanks for. your help! > > JM > > >
Re: Terminology question
I think the real question is "what do you call a single figure or column of figures under a bass note". So far as I am aware, the term "figured bass" means a bass line (not a single note) that has figuring to indicate the harmonies. If I want to talk about a number of such bass lines - e.g. the bass lines of several pieces so notated - then I would call them "figured basses". I'm not sure that I have ever heard of a term to describe one single harmony so notated. Not a very helpful answer to your query, perhaps, but that's the usage I am familiar with. David On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 16:20 +0200, Jacques Menu wrote: > Hello folks, > What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’, if that applies, to > denote several occurrences of the figures in a score, the same way > has there can be several harmonies? Maybe ‘figured bass figures’? > > In the example below, there 5 such occurrences: > > > Thanks for. your help! > > JM > >
Re: Terminology question
Jacques Menu writes: > Hello folks, > > What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’, if that applies, to denote > several occurrences of the figures > in a score, the same way has there can be several harmonies? Maybe ‘figured > bass figures’? > > In the example below, there 5 such occurrences: > > * > Thanks for. your help! I'd lean towards just "bass figures". There is no plural of "figured bass" as such since "figured bass" is the name of the notation technique rather than of individual bass figures. -- David Kastrup
Re: Terminology question
Hi Jacques, Am 15.06.21 um 16:20 schrieb Jacques Menu: What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’, if that applies, to denote several occurrences of the figures in a score, the same way has there can be several harmonies? Maybe ‘figured bass figures’? In the example below, there 5 such occurrences: Thanks for. your help! In German, one term that's at least partially in use is "Signatur": Each of your five < ... > expressions would be a "Generalbass-Signatur". (The word "Signatur" occurs in Heinichen, for example.) It seems not to be in use in English, though. In my teaching, I sometimes refer to, e.g. <6 5> as one single "bass figure" or "Generalbassziffer", but of course that's a slight abuse of terminology. Lukas
Terminology question
Hello folks, What would be the plural of ‘figured bass’, if that applies, to denote several occurrences of the figures in a score, the same way has there can be several harmonies? Maybe ‘figured bass figures’? In the example below, there 5 such occurrences: Thanks for. your help! JM
Re: Inserting a one-time Volta bracket
Hi Brent, Am 15.06.21 um 08:43 schrieb Brent Annable: Here are my efforts so far. I don't think this solution is very elegant, but if I could find a way to extend the measure length to accommodate the text, this might work. But I'm sure there must be an easier way. I'm very sorry - I didn't look at your example file (that unfortunately does not compile without your include files) and hence did not understand that you already got the volta bracket to appear (thanks for letting me learn about \allowVoltaHook). If the problem is just letting the bar become wide enough to accomodate the "last time only" text: Maybe there's an automatic way, but a simple \once \override Score.BarLine.extra-spacing-width = #'(-10 . 0) % or whatever value instead of -10 seems appropriate just before the barline should to the trick. This also works with the Measure_spanner_engraver that Jean mentioned; of course, that solution is much simpler, but I think I would prefer the text positioning the volta mechanism provides. Lukas
Re: percent repeats followed by grace notes
Le 11/06/2021 à 22:58, Vaylor Trucks a écrit : This might be a bug that's already know but I wanted to check to see if anyone has a workaround. If you follow a multi-bar percent repeat with a grace note, the result it that the last measure is squashed a bit. Without the grace note everything is equally spaced. Here's a small example that illustrates what I am seeing. \version "2.22.0" up = \drummode { \repeat percent 3 { sn8[ sn sn sn] sn[ sn sn sn] } \grace sn8( sn8)[ sn sn sn] sn[ sn sn sn] } \score { << \new DrumStaff << \up >> >> } A simple workaround would be: \version "2.22.0" up = \drummode { \repeat percent 3 { sn8[ sn sn sn] sn[ sn sn sn] } \once \override Staff.BarLine.extra-spacing-width = #'(-1 . 0) \grace sn8( sn8)[ sn sn sn] sn[ sn sn sn] } \score { << \new DrumStaff << \up >> >> } Best, Jean
Re: Quick newbie help on coloring one letter at a time without space?
Le 15/06/2021 à 14:05, darki...@jesusgod-pope666.info a écrit : Okay, I had this wonderful script that makes colors in all the rainbow colors. But I could not figure out to set it up with (rgb-color 0.953 0.471 0.125) and not sure it is possible. Second the problem with special characters which are norm in my native tongue. like æ ø å won't work with colors. So, I'm thinking can I do it manual, one letter at a time? Like I only need to do it once I guess, for some of things at least. I have only been able to color whole words. I would need to do what the script does but just manual, like -- in rainbow colors. I will make a link to it then called line = and be able to insert it the places needed. The script is very nice, and the idea is amazing, but I just really wanna have it working, both those colors I have sorted out for the best results and Danish letters as well. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks, I know it is most likely very newbish, but I am still a newb and still confused about a lot of things. I'm not coder and never was. Thanks for your help, all of you :) Dearly regards Darkijah. Hello, Sorry for not expanding this script further, I was (and am) busy with other things. Could you paste the version you are using now? This would make it easier to help you. Also, could you clarify what you meant with this paragraph? Like I only need to do it once I guess, for some of things at least. I have only been able to color whole words. I would need to do what the script does but just manual, like -- in rainbow colors. I will make a link to it then called line = and be able to insert it the places needed. Best, Jean
Re: Inserting a one-time Volta bracket
Le 15/06/2021 à 06:41, Brent Annable a écrit : Hi all, I'm trying to create the effect in the picture, of a one-time Volta bracket above the staff with the text "last time only". I would prefer the text to be inside the bracket, but that's another matter. Right now I'm just looking for a way to get the bracket up there - I've tried using actual Volta repeats and deleting/removing/changing things with tips from previous emails and snippets, but after an hour I'm just not getting anywhere. Does somebody know an easy way? The Measure_spanner_engraver. \version "2.22.1" \new Staff \with { \consists Measure_spanner_engraver } { c1 \tweak self-alignment-X #LEFT \mark \markup \tiny \italic "last time only" \tweak edge-height #'(1.2 . 1.2) \tweak outside-staff-priority 2000 \startMeasureSpanner c1 \stopMeasureSpanner c1 } The documentation for this was added recently and will appear with the next unstable release. Best, Jean
Quick newbie help on coloring one letter at a time without space?
Okay, I had this wonderful script that makes colors in all the rainbow colors. But I could not figure out to set it up with (rgb-color 0.953 0.471 0.125) and not sure it is possible. Second the problem with special characters which are norm in my native tongue. like æ ø å won't work with colors. So, I'm thinking can I do it manual, one letter at a time? Like I only need to do it once I guess, for some of things at least. I have only been able to color whole words. I would need to do what the script does but just manual, like -- in rainbow colors. I will make a link to it then called line = and be able to insert it the places needed. The script is very nice, and the idea is amazing, but I just really wanna have it working, both those colors I have sorted out for the best results and Danish letters as well. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks, I know it is most likely very newbish, but I am still a newb and still confused about a lot of things. I'm not coder and never was. Thanks for your help, all of you :) Dearly regards Darkijah.
Latest Tin Whistle music book for the Children of Jehovah. *Work in progress*
Hey guys, it is Darkijah - just wanted to upload everything made, if anyone wanna rip anything out of it or reuse it for whatever :) I still need some help on the automatically script for the Tin Whistle D - although I am still trying to sort out every note that is possible on the instrument, or at least the one I have. Somewhat harder to point out the higher notes of fingering. So if anyone wanna help me with the Script, I already have some trial scripts, but they do not fully do what I want - I want them to be able to make unique fingering for 3 octaves!!! :) I have done the fingering on a lot of the notations, but I still have some to work out. It not moving as quick as I wanted but it is moving, little by little - albeit slowly it feels. I really need a English forum for this - and if I get my money supply sorted out, I'm thinking of setting up a English Lilypond forum if anyone wanna moderate it that would be great. I can see they have one in German, and the Forum would be based either on SMF as the German or most likely on ElkArte which is a fork that is mobile ready and good to go. I still need to work on some theming on the Elk-Arte, it would take a months to seriously get sorted, time I don't have - but at least I can set it up and start from there. lpf.something I think would be a good address, you guys rather wanna have the whole name in it? lpf would be easy to put into the browser and go. Anyway... I'll post the files I have for now, 1 script are included for coloring the notation, the other is the whistle "book" which is still in progress - the Whistle script is well used for another work, of cause it all needs to be united at some point - but with an automatid script and all the notations sorted down and colors, that should be a breeze. At the moment, I have just tried to gather some known children songs, sorted the notes and lyrics to my liking. Lots of ideas, and a long way - everything will of cause always be free. If one ever would release the book in physical form, the front should say, don't by the book - download it for free! :P Well, let time speak on how far I get with it, tend to fail in my started projects as there is so many and things takes a lot of time Another idea is to make a XMPP Room for English Lilypond users as well, I call it Birdie and it is free and open - although I never got to sort out the client on my webpage fully, but that is another project I need to finish at some point. So one can easily connect without having any client on the computer itself. http://jesusisgodalmighty.life/birdie.php is my client, although some issues with colors and all - but it works, it can connect and all... But something I need to finish at some point, as so many other things. But a Birdie Room would be a quick help for minor issues and quick chat for Lilypond users who want to interact quick and easy and wanna share pictures, video and what not for easy and quick help back and forth :) Let me upload my files for the Whistle book and the colors. Work in progress, but overall... looks like something! Some Danish some English Songs in it... Not really sorted, but all of them should be played as Midi files now, although I have not sorted out if one can make a name unto the file in the midi box itself. Would be nice, as I just have these 0 1 2 3 for the melodies and it is not that easy to remember which on is which and can see it becoming a greater problem the more I get. Anyway, enjoy - but... I really need an English Forum - this mail list is way to complicated for me to sort out and if the Germans can do it... :P - Darkijah\version "2.22.1" \language "english" \include "SC.ly" %Whistle/Penny/Tin/Meg High D Book %Rainbow Script: #(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) #(define (color-list? x) (and (list? x) (every color? x))) #(define-markup-command (rainbow layout props colors text) (color-list? string?) (let* ((chars (string->list text)) (atomic-strings (map string chars))) (interpret-markup layout props (make-concat-markup (map make-with-color-markup (apply circular-list colors) atomic-strings) %Rainbow end %Box Script for https://JesusGod-Pope666.Info #(define-markup-command (on-color layout props color arg) (color? markup?) (let* ((stencil (interpret-markup layout props arg)) (X-ext (ly:stencil-extent stencil X)) (Y-ext (ly:stencil-extent stencil Y))) (ly:stencil-add (ly:make-stencil (list 'color color (ly:stencil-expr (ly:round-filled-box X-ext Y-ext 0)) X-ext Y-ext)) stencil))) %Box ending \header{ title = \markup { \with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0) % specify color or Black: \with-color #(rgb-color 0 0 0) or paper brown #(rgb-color 0.941 0.89 0.745) \with-color #(rgb-color 0.0 0.0 0.0) % specify size (Left . Right) (down . up) \filled-box #'(-0 . 103) #'(-0.9 . 2.7) #0 \fontsize #-1 \rainbow
Re: trying arranger and extract music
Unfortunately, I'm not able to manage some of the functions in the right way. Oh, I'm so sorry, I've been so busy this week, I haven't taken the time to read any messages of the Lilypond list. This example doesn't work and I can't find out the mistake: The guilty line seems to be this one (rm 'Lower 4 (em UpperII s1) ) There are 2 functions: \eM (Lilypond function) and (em..) (scheme function) but both need 2 arguments. In a Lilypond context \eM \music s1 s1*2% music 2 to 4 In a scheme context (em music 2 4) In my works, I don't use only the scheme version even in a Lilypond context. Compare : LowerI = { \eM \UpperI \M #1 {\M #2 s4 } r4 r8 } and LowerI = { #(em UpperI 1 '(2 4)) r4 r8 } -- Gilles
Re: Adjusting colors and such... A snapshot of the work so far.
Above will fail as soon as accented letters etc are used: \markup \alternate-colors #'("red" "blue" "green") "trööt" -> (process:6915): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text() warning: no glyph for character U+FFFD in font `/home/hermann/.local/share/fonts/C059-Roman.otf' This is due to guile-1 limitations. Some where there is some code around it, but I hate caring about this special problem. With Jonas' experimental guile-2-build it works shamelessly. My strongest argument to switch to guile-2 for good. I guess I can do it manually, but would be nice to be able to do it on the fly. At the moment I am only using the script for Headline and my dividing lines. Although kinda not really a good thing that the problem that lilypond has issues with such things - like the midi thing that you need 2 scores and 2 different note sets to make it work as it should. You already writing all the code, the Midi output should be capable of doing it correctly. It's not making it easier for newbies and users overall. Just saying. Anyway I just had a crash with my Frescobaldi so I lost a lot of tabs and information - second time losing things. I guess a save function like in notepad++ is still to much to ask for in our days as default... Anyway guys, we need a English forum for this, I am way to confused with the email thing and finding things again. I still can't write directly from the webpage and I just can't get it... I saw a German forum for Lilypond, we need an English one as well. If I can get over this issue of money, I will buy a domain and setup a forum - but I have some issues with things at the moment, a lot of issues. No credit card, bank closed it and the state are now redrawing the support money from me as they push more madness. But I can setup a forum, when I get some resources as long as some people wanna moderate it overall... Dearly regards - Darkijah
Re: Inserting a one-time Volta bracket
Hi Brent, Am 15.06.21 um 06:41 schrieb Brent Annable: I'm trying to create the effect in the picture, of a one-time Volta bracket above the staff with the text "last time only". I would prefer the text to be inside the bracket, but that's another matter. Right now I'm just looking for a way to get the bracket up there - I've tried using actual Volta repeats and deleting/removing/changing things with tips from previous emails and snippets, but after an hour I'm just not getting anywhere. Does somebody know an easy way? Volta brackets seem to insist on getting closed only at a repeat-closing bar line. So I had no better idea than to banish the creation of the Volta bracket into a custom context that is independent of what's going on elsewhere: \version "2.21" \layout { \context { \name "Custom" \type "Engraver_group" \consists Volta_engraver \consists Bar_engraver } \context { \Score \accepts "Custom" } } lastTime = \markup \normal-text { last time only } << \new Custom { s1 \once \set repeatCommands = #`((volta ,lastTime)) % in standard contexts, \set is reset after each time steps, % but obviously I didn't add the necessary engraver, so \once s1 \set repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) end-repeat) } \new Staff { a1 g4 a g a \repeat volta 2 { g a g a } } >> This feels like a terrible hack, and I'd not be surprised if it blows up at the first opportunity. But maybe it can become a starting point for future experiments? Lukas
Re: Inserting a one-time Volta bracket
Hi Jacques, Thanks, but I don't really need a lower bracket on the text, and I'd like the object to be linked to the measure rather than the text. Any way I can use the voltabracket spanner to do that? Regards, Brent. On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 16:47, Jacques Menu wrote: > Hello Brent, > > What about: > > > JM > > Le 15 juin 2021 à 08:43, Brent Annable a écrit : > > Here are my efforts so far. I don't think this solution is very elegant, > but if I could find a way to extend the measure length to accommodate the > text, this might work. But I'm sure there must be an easier way. > > Sorry for the massive file, but I thought it was best to include the > entire context since the spanner for the bracket seems to be affected by > lots of different things. > > Brent. > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 14:41, Brent Annable > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to create the effect in the picture, of a one-time Volta >> bracket above the staff with the text "last time only". I would prefer the >> text to be inside the bracket, but that's another matter. Right now I'm >> just looking for a way to get the bracket up there - I've tried using >> actual Volta repeats and deleting/removing/changing things with tips from >> previous emails and snippets, but after an hour I'm just not getting >> anywhere. >> >> Does somebody know an easy way? >> >> Many thanks and regards, >> >> Brent. >> > > > >
Re: Inserting a one-time Volta bracket
Hello Brent,What about: CustomHorizontalBracketExample.ly Description: Binary data JMLe 15 juin 2021 à 08:43, Brent Annablea écrit :Here are my efforts so far. I don't think this solution is very elegant, but if I could find a way to extend the measure length to accommodate the text, this might work. But I'm sure there must be an easier way.Sorry for the massive file, but I thought it was best to include the entire context since the spanner for the bracket seems to be affected by lots of different things.Brent.On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 14:41, Brent Annable wrote:Hi all,I'm trying to create the effect in the picture, of a one-time Volta bracket above the staff with the text "last time only". I would prefer the text to be inside the bracket, but that's another matter. Right now I'm just looking for a way to get the bracket up there - I've tried using actual Volta repeats and deleting/removing/changing things with tips from previous emails and snippets, but after an hour I'm just not getting anywhere. Does somebody know an easy way?Many thanks and regards,Brent.