Re: How to append a git version to an output filename

[Ben Beeson]

Thanks URS,

Another great idea for me to try!

Cheers,

Ben

On Jan 16, 2018 08:37, "Urs Liska" <li...@openlilylib.org> wrote:

>
>
> Am 16.01.2018 um 14:27 schrieb Ben Beeson:
>
> Hi,
>
> Wow, that looks very promising.  I am looking at this note on my cell
> phone right now, so I cannot test it just yet. I will try this later when I
> get home and see what happens.
>
>
> But you should also look into the openLilyLib files, create a copy of the
> function and try removing the \markup wrapper. This \markup is added
> explicitly so it seems more efficient not to do that in the first place
> instead of removing it afterwards.
>
> Urs
>
>
> Thanks very much for this!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2018 21:38, "Flaming Hakama by Elaine" <
> ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Urs Liska <li...@openlilylib.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> Actually I misread your original post and referred you to what you
>> already had.
>>
>> Elaine's hint is true but won't bring you any further because that's what
>> is already happening in the background when you use the \gitCommittish
>> function.
>>
>> The point is (I think) that the function is explicitly making a markup
>> from a string - and in order to concatenate a string for the file name you
>> should simply avoid that step.
>>
>> Urs
>>
>
> So, the \gitCommitish returns a markup, and it needs to be a string?
> If so, does this help?
>
> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=747
>
>
> %% http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=747
> %% see also http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/text
>
> %% TODO markup->string is in the source
> %% test, if it can be deleted here
>
> % mup = markup argument
> % conc = boolean whether to concat or not
> #(define (markup->string mup conc)
> (let ((result ""))
>  (map (lambda (x)
>   (begin
> ;; if this is a concat-markup, do not insert
> blanks between string
> (if (eq? x concat-markup)(set! conc #t))
> (if (list? x)
> (set! result
>   ;; if we are concatenating or we start
> with an empty result, don't add a blank
>   (if (or conc (string=? result ""))
>   (string-append result
> (markup->string x conc))
>   (string-append result " "
> (markup->string x conc)
> (if (string? x)
> (set! result
>   ;; if we are concatenating or we start
> with an empty result, don't add a blank
>   (if (or conc (string=? result ""))
>   (string-append result x)
>   (string-append result " " x
> result))
>   mup)
>  result)
> )
> #(define-markup-command (plain-text layout props arg)(markup?)
> (interpret-markup layout props (markup
> (markup->string arg #f
>
>
> #(define output-suffix \plain-text \gitCommitish ... )
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: How to append a git version to an output filename

[Ben Beeson]

Hi,

Wow, that looks very promising.  I am looking at this note on my cell phone
right now, so I cannot test it just yet. I will try this later when I get
home and see what happens.

Thanks very much for this!

Cheers,

Ben




On Jan 15, 2018 21:38, "Flaming Hakama by Elaine" 
wrote:



On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Urs Liska  wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
> Actually I misread your original post and referred you to what you already
> had.
>
> Elaine's hint is true but won't bring you any further because that's what
> is already happening in the background when you use the \gitCommittish
> function.
>
> The point is (I think) that the function is explicitly making a markup
> from a string - and in order to concatenate a string for the file name you
> should simply avoid that step.
>
> Urs
>

So, the \gitCommitish returns a markup, and it needs to be a string?
If so, does this help?

http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=747


%% http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=747
%% see also http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/text

%% TODO markup->string is in the source
%% test, if it can be deleted here

% mup = markup argument
% conc = boolean whether to concat or not
#(define (markup->string mup conc)
(let ((result ""))
 (map (lambda (x)
  (begin
;; if this is a concat-markup, do not insert
blanks between string
(if (eq? x concat-markup)(set! conc #t))
(if (list? x)
(set! result
  ;; if we are concatenating or we start
with an empty result, don't add a blank
  (if (or conc (string=? result ""))
  (string-append result (markup->string
x conc))
  (string-append result " "
(markup->string x conc)
(if (string? x)
(set! result
  ;; if we are concatenating or we start
with an empty result, don't add a blank
  (if (or conc (string=? result ""))
  (string-append result x)
  (string-append result " " x
result))
  mup)
 result)
)
#(define-markup-command (plain-text layout props arg)(markup?)
(interpret-markup layout props (markup
(markup->string arg #f


#(define output-suffix \plain-text \gitCommitish ... )





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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 182, Issue 55

[Ben Beeson]

Thanks Urs!

Cheers,
Ben 

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 182, Issue 50

[Ben Beeson]

Hi Urs,
Thank you for your note. I am using the tools you provided. My thanks
to you and Lars for providing those tools. My main reason for using
version control is to have a way to tell if someone in the band has the
most current setting for the tunes and to go back to a previous edition
if needed when ideas for new changes come out from the boss. 
Regarding your comment about uncommitted changes, I am aware of that
and have been burned once or twice due to that as well. As a work
around, I only provide committed scores to the band that I scribe for.
It's not a perfect system, but it seems to work so far.   
Andrew, 
Your idea to tag the output pdf in the repository is a worthy idea as
well. Thanks for that suggestion!
Cheers,
Ben
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Re: How to append a git version to an output filename

[Ben Beeson]

Good evening all,
I have attached an example that I hope helps. 
Thomas, the gitCommitish I am using is the same as the one linked at:  
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/blob/master/editorial-tools/git
-commands/
So after committing the LilyPond files to the repository, the current
git version will appear in the tagline when you rebuild the pdf since
that value is extracted in the tagline entry. What I seek is a way to
get that value appended automatically to the generated pdf so that the
generated pdf would have a filename such as:
CommitishExample-0490435.pdf.   
Using \bookOutputSuffix seemed like a good place to start, but as
Thomas has pointed out,  \bookOutputSuffix "\gitCommitish" or
\bookOutputSuffix \gitCommitish does not work.  
Elaine has a good idea to extract that information at the shell and
then append it to the filename using shell functions. I had not thought
of that method before. I will work on a shell script for that and see
what come out of that.  
David, 
My apologies for referring you to the place where the git definitions I
used were.  I thought that was information you were looking for.  
Thanks to all for your help,
Ben  

On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 12:17 -0800, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
> > -- Forwarded message ------
> > From: Ben Beeson <bwbe...@gmail.com>
> > To: David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>, lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.o
> > rg>
> > Subject: Re: How to append a git version to an output filename
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > What I seek is a way to append whatever the current git version is
> > to the pdf filename that is generated so I don't have to open the
> > pdf and check the tagline to see what version it is when searching
> > for a specific version. Appending the git version to the filename
> > would make it easier to know which version is represented by the
> > pdf when searching through the directory.   
> > 
> > 
> 
> I'm unclear on what you want the git version of.  I can only assume
> it is one of the lilypond source files.
> 
> In any case, if it something to do with the git commit version of a
> file, you can get that from the command line, such as using something
> like:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  git log $file | head -1 | sed 's/commit //'
> 
> 
> 
> And then there is a way to execute a shell command from within
> lilypond, and assign it to a variable.  Which I'm not familiar with,
> but I've read on this list about people doing so.  I'd bet you could
> find that in the mail archives.
> 
> 
> 
> > The Guile information I have seen so far online has not been too
> > helpful for this particular question.  If anyone has any ideas, I
> > would enjoy seeing those. 
> > Cheers,
> > Ben
> 
> 
> HTH, 
> 
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> \version "2.19.80"
 
\include "/home/ben/workspace/GitHub_BagPipeTunes/include/gitDefinitions.ily"


filename = "~/CommitishExample.ly"
tunesetVersion = "Version 1"
source = ""  

 

\header { 
  title = "Commitish Example"
  composer = ""
  arranger = ""
  meter = "" 
  tagline = \markup { \filename  " " \source " "  git Version: \gitCommitish  Committed: \gitDateTime
  Engraved:
  \simple #(strftime "%d - %b - %Y - %H%M  " (localtime (current-time)))
 % with \with-url #"http://lilypond.org/;
 % \line { LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/) }
}
}



\book {
  %\bookOutputSuffix   what to put here to get the suffix to be the git version "0490435" or whatever the latest version is???
  \bookOutputName "CommitishExample"   
  \score {
	\new GrandStaff <<
		\new Staff = "GHB" <<
			\new Voice {			
\time 4/4
\relative c''{	c4 d4 e4 f4 | }
\break

			}
		>>		
	>>

  }
}

  \paper {
#(set-paper-size "letter" 'portrait)
page-breaking = #ly:minimal-breaking
  }





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Re: How to append a git version to an output filename

[Ben Beeson]

Hi David,

It has been a while since I visited the site, but more information on
using git with scores is available at:
http://lilypondblog.org/2014/04/printing-git-versioning-info-in-a-score
/ 
Urs Liska and Lars Haulin provide some excellent tools and commentary
with a link to the current definitions.ily file at:
http://lilypondblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/definitions.ily in
the snippets repository available at:
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets .  To find the definitions
file, click through snippets-> editorial-tools -> git-commands.
Enjoy,
Ben 





On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 17:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> Ben Beeson <bwbe...@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Hi David,
> > Here is how I get the \gitCommitish in the tagline. First, include
> > the
> > "gitDefinitions.ily" file.
> 
> What is that?
> 
> > I use something like this:
> > 
> > \include "/home/workspace/include/gitDefinitions.ily" 
> > 
> > Then in the header declaration, add the \gitCommitish and any other
> > items desired  to the tagline entry: 
> > 
> > \header { 
> >   title = "Title"   
> >   composer = ""
> >   arranger = ""
> >   meter = ""
> >   tagline = \markup { \filename  " " \source " "  git
> > Version:
> > \gitCommitish  Committed: \gitDateTime
> >   Engraved:
> >   \simple #(strftime "%d - %b - %Y - %H%M  " (localtime
> > (current-time)))
> >}
> > }
> > 
> > An example tagline from a score I am editing presently looks like
> > this:
> > 
> > 
> > Here \source is just a note to remind me where I got the
> > information i
> > used. This could be person's name or whatever. For the tagline
> > above,
> > \source is "null", so that value is missing from the tagline.   I
> > hope
> > that  the above is helpful to others. 
> > 
> > Regarding your comment about adding an expression to
> > \bookOutputSuffix
> > -- that is what I am trying to do.  That said, 
> > 
> > \bookOutputSuffix "\gitCommitish" or \bookOutputSuffix =
> > \gitCommitish  does not work as expected.
> 
> What about
> 
> \bookOutputSuffix \gitCommitish
> 
> then?
> 
> > The Guile information I have seen so far online has not been too
> > helpful for this particular question.
> 
> string-append and similar functions exist.
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Re: How to append a git version to an output filename

[Ben Beeson]

Hi David,
Here is how I get the \gitCommitish in the tagline. First, include the
"gitDefinitions.ily" file.  I use something like this:

\include "/home/workspace/include/gitDefinitions.ily" 

Then in the header declaration, add the \gitCommitish and any other
items desired  to the tagline entry: 

\header { 
  title = "Title"   
  composer = ""
  arranger = ""
  meter = ""
  tagline = \markup { \filename  " " \source " "  git Version:
\gitCommitish  Committed: \gitDateTime
  Engraved:
  \simple #(strftime "%d - %b - %Y - %H%M  " (localtime
(current-time)))
   }
}

An example tagline from a score I am editing presently looks like this:


Here \source is just a note to remind me where I got the information i
used. This could be person's name or whatever. For the tagline above,
\source is "null", so that value is missing from the tagline.   I hope
that  the above is helpful to others. 

Regarding your comment about adding an expression to \bookOutputSuffix
-- that is what I am trying to do.  That said, 

\bookOutputSuffix "\gitCommitish" or \bookOutputSuffix =
\gitCommitish  does not work as expected.  

What I seek is a way to append whatever the current git version is to
the pdf filename that is generated so I don't have to open the pdf and
check the tagline to see what version it is when searching for a
specific version. Appending the git version to the filename would make
it easier to know which version is represented by the pdf when
searching through the directory.   

The Guile information I have seen so far online has not been too
helpful for this particular question.  If anyone has any ideas, I would
enjoy seeing those. 

Cheers,

Ben 







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> Ben Beeson <bwbe...@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I am using git to keep track of edits to scores and am presently
> > using 
> > 
> > 
> > \bookOutputName "score-filename" 
> >  
> > to write the output filename for the pdf that is generated in the
> > LilyPond "ly" file.  I am also using  
> > 
> > "git Version: \gitCommitish " 
> > 
> > in the tagline so the generated pdf has the git version information
> > included in the score that is generated.
> 
> How would that work?
> 
> > I am wondering if there is a way to include \gitCommitish in
> > \bookOutputSuffix so that the output filename looks like:
> > 
> > "score-filename-gitversion.pdf".
> > 
> > So far I have not been able to figure out how to do that or find an
> > existing solution in the snippets, forum or elsewhere.   If anyone
> > has
> > a solution, please share it.
> 
> It's easy to use any Guile string expression as argument to
> \bookOutputSuffix but I have no idea how you manage to get the
> Commitish
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How to append a git version to an output filename

[Ben Beeson]

Hello all,

I am using git to keep track of edits to scores and am presently using 


\bookOutputName "score-filename" 
 
to write the output filename for the pdf that is generated in the
LilyPond "ly" file.  I am also using  

"git Version: \gitCommitish " 

in the tagline so the generated pdf has the git version information
included in the score that is generated. I am wondering if there is a
way to include \gitCommitish in \bookOutputSuffix so that the output
filename looks like:

"score-filename-gitversion.pdf".

So far I have not been able to figure out how to do that or find an
existing solution in the snippets, forum or elsewhere.   If anyone has
a solution, please share it.

Thanks in advance,

Ben   

 


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How does one add an "x" or some other mark within the staff where a note normally goes?

[Ben Beeson]

Hi,

I am looking at a handwritten score that contains some extra marks in
the staff that I would like to include in a LilyPond score.  In the
bottom part of the score linked here

http://www.altpibroch.com/PrimarySources/185-K1_5-Lament_for_Catherine.
pdf

you can see where the author as written in some "x's" in the staff at
the C or A note location.  What I would like to do is replicate that
marking in the LilyPond score.  I have tried markup, but that does not
place the "x" in the right spot.  Is there a way to make a note have
zero time value and then replace the note with a letter or other
symbol?

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Re: Trouble Combining Repeats and Closing Bars in tunes

[Ben Beeson]

Thanks David,

This is just what I needed!

Regards,

Ben

On Mon, 2016-10-17 at 23:52 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 17 Oct 2016 at 23:24:51 (-0400), Ben Beeson wrote:
> > 
> > I am looking at a 4 - part tune where the first and third parts are
> > repeated and the second and fourth parts are not repeated. Try as I
> > may, I cannot get Lilypond to put  the repeats and closing bars in
> > the
> > right place when engraving the tune. The following is just about as
> > simple as I can get it and still show the issue.  
> > 
> > % BarExample.ly 
> > \version "2.19.48"
> > 
> > example = {   \time 2/4
> >   \relative c''{
> >  \repeat volta 2 { a8 a8 a8 a8 | a8 a8
> > a8
> > a8 | \break  }  
> >   \bar ".|" d8 d8 d8 d8
> > > 
> > >   d8 d8 d8 d8 | \bar "|." \break
> >  \repeat volta 2 { a8 a8 a8 a8 | a8 a8
> > a8
> > a8 | \break } 
> >   \bar ".|"  d8 d8 d8
> > d8 |
> > d8 d8 d8 d8 | \bar "|." \break }
> > }
> >  
> > 
> > \score   
> > {
> > \new Staff <<
> > 
> > \new Voice {
> > \example
> > }   
> > >>   
> > }
> > % end BarExample.ly 
> > 
> > This produces the following which is clearly not what I intended
> > since
> > the first and third lines should be repeated and the second and
> > fourth
> > lines are not repeated. 
> > 
> > 
> >  What am I doing wrong and what is the best way to fix it short of
> > using separate score blocks for each part? 
> 
> Just let LP choose the barline types.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

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Trouble Combining Repeats and Closing Bars in tunes

[Ben Beeson]

Hi,

I am looking at a 4 - part tune where the first and third parts are
repeated and the second and fourth parts are not repeated. Try as I
may, I cannot get Lilypond to put  the repeats and closing bars in the
right place when engraving the tune. The following is just about as
simple as I can get it and still show the issue.  

% BarExample.ly 
\version "2.19.48"

example = {   \time 2/4
  \relative c''{
 \repeat volta 2 { a8 a8 a8 a8 | a8 a8 a8
a8 | \break  }  
  \bar ".|" d8 d8 d8 d8
|  d8 d8 d8 d8 | \bar "|." \break
 \repeat volta 2 { a8 a8 a8 a8 | a8 a8 a8
a8 | \break } 
  \bar ".|"  d8 d8 d8 d8 |
d8 d8 d8 d8 | \bar "|." \break }
}
 

\score   
{
\new Staff <<

\new Voice {
\example
}   
>>   
}
% end BarExample.ly 

This produces the following which is clearly not what I intended since
the first and third lines should be repeated and the second and fourth
lines are not repeated. 


 What am I doing wrong and what is the best way to fix it short of
using separate score blocks for each part? 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Ben 
  
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Help with double bar lines

[Ben Beeson]

Hi all,

I am noticing that placing a double bar line at the end of a part
requires a separate \score {} for each part to get the desired results. 
What I would like to know is how to write one \score {} that has all the
coding for a multi-part tune and shows the double bar lines at the
appropriate places for the end of each part and start of the next part. 
I can make this work by adding a separate \score{} for each part, but it
just seems like there ought to be an easier way to do this.  I am
attaching an example ly file and the output that hopefully shows what I
am trying to do.

If I am missing something obvious or this can't be done, please let me know.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Ben




\version 2.18

\include bagpipe.ly 


\paper {
	#(set-paper-size letter 'landscape )
system-count = #2
   
}
\header {
  
  title = Bar Test
  subtitle =  I want the double bar line at the end of every 8 bars. 
}

BarTest = 
{

  \bar 
  \set Timing.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment -1 8)  e8 \bar .| |
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4  |
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 \bar |. |
  \break
  \bar .|
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 |
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 \bar |. |
  \break
}

BarTest_One = 
{

  \bar 
  \set Timing.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment -1 8)  e8 \bar .| |
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4  |
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 \bar |. |
  \break
}

BarTest_Two = 
{

  \bar 
  \set Timing.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment -1 8)  e8 \bar .| |
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4  |
  a4 a4 a4 a4 |  a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 | a4 a4 a4 a4 \bar |. |
  \break
}

\score {
	\new GrandStaff 		
		\new Staff = GHB 
			\new Voice {
  	\time 4/4
\BarTest
			}	

	
\header{  
  piece =  In this example, the closing double bar line is at the last line only but the opening double bar line is present both times. 
} 
}



\score {
	\new GrandStaff 		
		\new Staff = GHB 
			\new Voice {
  	\time 4/4
\BarTest_One
			}	

	
\header{  
  piece =  This example works, but requires a separate \score {} for each grouping of 8 bars to show the closing double bar line. 
} 
}

\score {
	\new GrandStaff 		
		\new Staff = GHB 
			\new Voice {
  	\time 4/4
\BarTest_Two
			}	

	
}

bartest.pdf
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Re: Help with double bar lines

[Ben Beeson]

Hi Harm,

That is a very clever idea and it does exactly what I was looking to do!

Thanks for your help!

Ben

On 07/26/2014 01:16 PM, Thomas Morley wrote:
 2014-07-26 21:51 GMT+02:00 Ben Beeson bwbe...@wavecable.com:
 Hi all,

 I am noticing that placing a double bar line at the end of a part requires a
 separate \score {} for each part to get the desired results.  What I would
 like to know is how to write one \score {} that has all the coding for a
 multi-part tune and shows the double bar lines at the appropriate places for
 the end of each part and start of the next part.  I can make this work by
 adding a separate \score{} for each part, but it just seems like there ought
 to be an easier way to do this.  I am attaching an example ly file and the
 output that hopefully shows what I am trying to do.

 If I am missing something obvious or this can't be done, please let me know.

 Thanks in advance for your help,

 Ben
 In a construct like:

  \bar |.
  \break
  \bar .|


 the second command will override the first, because both are applied
 at the same musical moment.

 There is no predefined barline withe the behaviour you want, instead
 you need to define a special barline yourself:


 \version 2.18

 #(define-bar-line |.-b |. .| |.)

 \relative c'' {
   \partial 8  e8
   \bar .|
   \repeat unfold 32 a,4
   \bar |.-b
   \break
   \repeat unfold 32 a4
   \bar |. |
 }

 HTH,
   Harm


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Getting LilyPond code with included files into LyX

[Ben Beeson]

Hi all,

I decided that I wanted to compile a tune book using LyX. I have
collected up several tunes that I want in the tune book and these tunes
are all engraved with LilyPond.  Now I need to figure out how to get
these tunes into a LyX file so I can compile the tune book.

I have figured out how to get some music notes such as a scale into a
LyX document using the LilyPond module. Now I need to figure out how to
make that work when your LilyPond code needs an included file such as
bagpipe.ly to render the music correctly.  So far I am not having much
luck with including bagpipe.ly and the LyX documentation has not
helped much in that regard.  I am missing something that will tell LyX
to send the instructions for the include files to LilyPond when it
builds the file.  I am hoping there is a simple fix for this, but I have
not found it yet.  If anyone knows how to get the LyX LilyPond module to
include bagpipe.ly  or some other path/to/some/file.ly  when
building a document with LilyPond to work, I would appreciate a short
note to help explain that.

Cheers and thanks in advance,

Ben
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Is the LilyPond website up today?

[Ben Beeson]

Hi all,

I am getting error Unable to load the webpage becuase the server sent
no data at the LilyPond.org since today.  Is the site down?


Thanks,

Ben

 
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Proposed tweak to bagpipe.ly

[Ben Beeson]

  
  
Hi all,
  

Today I decided to transcribe the Kilberry setting
  for "The Desparate Battle". While I was working on that I created
  a small piece of code that you may consider useful enough to
  include in the next version of bagpipe.ly for the LilyPond world.
  The code is below and represents a way to mark the Taorluath,
  Taorluath A Mach, Crunluath, and Crunluath A Mach symbols as the
  Kilberry book does for 
"The Desparate Battle". This code
follows other piobaireachd notation examples already in
bagpipe.ly, so hopefully it will be straightforward to add this
if the maintainer/author agrees. 
  
*** code snippet here 

txtaortaoramcruncrunam = \markup { 
   \override #'(baseline-skip . 1.0)
 \column {
  \center-align "T"
  \center-align \scale #'(-1
  . -1) "T"
  \lower #2.5 \center-align
  "C"
  \lower #1 \center-align
  \scale #'(-1 . -1) "C"
 }
}
 
  *** end snippet **



Here is a snapshot of the result.

  



  

Cheers,


Ben 

  

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Re: Is there a way to split a score across two sheets?

[Ben Beeson]

Hi Sven,

Thanks for asking about what I am trying to do.  Perhaps I 
could explain this a bit differently.  Let me know if this 
is not clear and I will try again.  You asked about why 
\pageBreak doesn't do what I want.  \pageBreak splits a 
tune across a sheet dividing a top from a bottom. You get 
whole lines when you do this.  What I want to do is split 
a tune into a left side and a right side.


Consider that if you open a book, there are two pages 
facing each other, usually an even numbered page on the 
left and an odd numbered page on the right. Imagine a 
sheet of music printed in landscape orientation on a piece 
of paper that is the same size as the two facing pages in 
a book.  When you fold this sheet of music down the 
middle, you would have the first bars of each line on the 
left facing page and the last bars of each line on the 
right facing page.  Now add the print margins to the 
middle for binding etc. So if you did this in a book, the 
tune takes two facing pages in the book for each page of 
the tune.  The idea could be thought of as using two 
letter pages to create an equivalent of a C sized US 
sheet, or similarly, two A4 sheets into an equivalent A2 
sheet.


What I am wanting to do is to print the tune on paper in a 
size readable when standing back from the music stand by 
splitting a tune across two sheets of paper that become 
facing pages in a book. I'd like to do this without 
splitting the notes into a left and right score in a ly 
file if possible.



Thanks in advance,

Ben

 



On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:31:47 +0200
 Sven Axelsson sven.axels...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm afraid I don't understand the distinction you make 
between page and
sheet. Apparently \pageBreak doesn't do what you want, 
so please clarify

how what you want differs.


On 17 October 2013 06:12, Ben Beeson 
bwbe...@wavecable.com wrote:



Hi,

I use LilyPond for bagpipe music.  I find LilyPond and 
the included
bagpipe.ly file to work very well for that task. 
Thanks!


I looked in the documents and in other places online for 
help and did
not find anything on how to split a score across two 
sheets, so Iam
hoping the list can provide some insight. What I am 
looking to do is to
easily split a score across two sheets much like you can 
make a score
use two pages instead of one with a \pageBreak at the 
appropriate place.
For example, the tune Cabar Feidh is much easier to read 
from a single
sheet if printed landscape as opposed to printing 
portrait. This is just
because some of the bars are more busy with doublings 
and throws etc.
than others making certain parts a bit crowded when 
printing this tune
in portrait orientation.  I realize I could create two 
separate scores,
one for each sheet, but that becomes cumbersome if you 
ever decide to

display the tune differently.

So I was wondering if there was an easy way to split a 
score across two
sheets when printing so the tune essentially puts the 
first two bars on
the left sheet and the last two bars of each line on the 
right sheet of

an open book?

Thanks in advance,

Ben




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Re: Is there a way to split a score across two sheets?

[Ben Beeson]

Kieren, Sven, and Robin,

Thanks each of you for your great ideas.  I will try those 
tonight after band practice and see what happens.


Thanks again,

Ben

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:06:57 -0400
 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:

Hello Ben,

Maybe use the \extractMusic function(s) to jigsaw the 
music across multiple pages?


Hope this helps!
Kieren.



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Is there a way to split a score across two sheets?

[Ben Beeson]

Hi,

I use LilyPond for bagpipe music.  I find LilyPond and the included
bagpipe.ly file to work very well for that task.  Thanks!

I looked in the documents and in other places online for help and did
not find anything on how to split a score across two sheets, so Iam
hoping the list can provide some insight. What I am looking to do is to
easily split a score across two sheets much like you can make a score
use two pages instead of one with a \pageBreak at the appropriate place.
For example, the tune Cabar Feidh is much easier to read from a single
sheet if printed landscape as opposed to printing portrait. This is just
because some of the bars are more busy with doublings and throws etc.
than others making certain parts a bit crowded when printing this tune
in portrait orientation.  I realize I could create two separate scores,
one for each sheet, but that becomes cumbersome if you ever decide to
display the tune differently.  

So I was wondering if there was an easy way to split a score across two
sheets when printing so the tune essentially puts the first two bars on
the left sheet and the last two bars of each line on the right sheet of
an open book?

Thanks in advance,

Ben   

  


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Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

[Ben Beeson]

Hi Trevor,

Thanks for pointing that out to me.  I will remember that.

Cheers and Thanks Again,

Ben 

On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 09:06 +, Trevor Daniels wrote: 
 Ben you wrote Friday, December 21, 2012 5:29 AM
 
  I am stumped, but happy.  I say that because LilyPond renders the tune
  correctly and does not error on bar checks etc unless you have the
  second \time 3/4 in the score block.  I know that removing the second
  \time 3/4 from the score block fixed the problem, and that adding it
  back recreated the problem.  I thought this was odd since the LilyPond
  manual in the section on Changing time signatures inside a polymetric
  section using \scaleDurations appears to show an example that has more
  than one time signature in the score block.  For now I will try to
  remember to minimize the use of \time X/Y in the scores to avoid
  collisions in the future.  
 
 A second \time will cause no problems if it occurs at the same
 musical moment as the first one.  In your case it doesn't, due to
 the different timing of the grace notes in the two parts.  As only
 one \time command is needed at any point in a score (unless it 
 is polymetric) it is best to stick to one at a time.
 
 Trevor



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Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

[Ben Beeson]

Hi David,

Thanks for pointing me to the issue 34 link. I did not know about that
before.  After reading all that material late last night, I am realizing
that the fix is going to be a tough one.  I guess I was hoping that I
just missed something simple.  Who knew that I was about to walk into a
minefield? Wow... 

I will see what I can do with the \grace { s8 } idea you suggested.  So
far that idea is not playing nicely with the bagpipe.ly file.  

Thanks again,

Ben 
   

On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 09:54 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: 
 Ben Beeson bwbe...@wavecable.com writes:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have been struggling with how to get harmonies to align with the main
  line of a tune when inputting seconds for bagpipe music.  The goal is
  to get the main tune on one staff with the seconds on a separate staff.
  I also want the seconds aligned with the main tune in the other staff.
  Most of the time this works the way it should in that you enter the
  music and all is well. The problem occurs when one part of the tune
  starts with a different length of grace note embellishment from the
  other part.
 
 Then don't do this.  Pad all starting graces with spacer rests (like s8)
 to have the same length, if necessary, adding just \grace { s8. }.  It
 is a problem documented in the manual, and is one of the earliest
 standing issues in the bug tracker, the infamous issue 34
 URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=34.
 



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