Re: Lilypond SVG output in 2.12.1
Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: I've had a look at making this correction using a sed script, but can't find anything in the documentation relating to the handling of hexadecimal numbers. Does anyone have any ideas, before I write a script manually correcting each grob? Does anyone know where the SVG output is generated and in what language? I might be able to fiddle with the source code too, as it seems to be quite a straightforward adjustment. Hi Vivian, I'm not sure about sed, but this would probably be trivial in (g)awk. Are you familiar with that language at all? -- Benjamin D. Esham | bdes...@gmail.com | bdesham128 (AIM) “Given that sooner or later we're all just going to die, what's the point of learning about integers?” — Calvin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond on Leopard - who has it working?
Sven Axelsson wrote: OK, I know. The standard reply to the Lilypond vs. Lopard question is compile it yourself. I could do that, but I believe it is a bit more complicated than just make sudo make install so it wold be easier if someone who has done this already could make an unofficial build available. Anyone? Please, pretty please? Just the command line stuff is fine, no need for any GUI crud. If you happen to have Fink installed, you can install Lilypond through Fink. The current versions supported are 2.10.29 and 2.11.31, although I've heard that you can get the latest versions if you tweak Fink's .info files. I realize this isn't exactly what you asked for, but if you have Fink installed it is probably the easiest way. It probably isn't worth it to install Fink just for this purpose unless you're really having trouble getting Lilypond working any other way. I guess I could just send you my binaries, but I don't have a very good idea of exactly which files you would need, and there would probably be library issues at some point. HTH, -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A L'APOSTROPHE: Let our battle's begin! BOB THE ANGRY FLOWER: God, you even _say_ it wrong! — http://www.angryflower.com/plural.gif ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond SVG output
Benjamin Esham wrote: [getting usable SVG output from LilyPond] FWIW, this how-to is now available from the LSR at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=334. Cheers, -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.— Alan Turing ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond SVG output
Graham Percival wrote: Benjamin Esham wrote: [getting usable SVG output from LilyPond] FWIW, this how-to is now available from the LSR at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=334. Great! I'm very interested in this. Is there any way to automate the inkscape step? inkscape -T does export text to path, but presumably this doesn't handle the grouping/ungrouping stuff. I have no way to automate the Inkscape step. Inkscape has a semi-native Python interface, so it might be possible to write a script to iterate through all of the objects in the file and ungroup/convert them as appropriate. (In fact, that might not be too bad at all for someone sufficiently familiar with Inkscape's Python interface... specifically, one would ungroup the first couple of document-wide groups, which correspond to the output page. Then, the document will consist of a bunch of one-element groups; for each of these that contains a svg:text element, ungroup and convert the text element to a path. All of the others should be svg:rect or :line and should be safe to leave as-is.) Needless to say, it would be more beneficial overall for someone to simply fix LilyPond's SVG output in the first place ;-) -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.— Wilfred Owen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond SVG output
[cc'ing to the list] Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: Dear Benjamin and Nick, This was just to let you know that I've got fixing the Lilypond SVG output down to three replace operations in EMacs. Editing the SVG file you replace: 1: all occurrences of feta-alphabet20 with Emmentaler 2: all occurrences of font-family:Century with font- family:Century Schoolbook L 3: all occurrences of font-family:L with font-family:Century Schoolbook L The only output which remains incorrect is italic font type, which I haven't found any way of fixing - the SVG file seems to be correct, the font file is there, as far as I can see, but it always shows as Roman. It would be perfectly feasible (I suppose) just to make a parser which was triggered by the writing of the SVG file by Lilypond which corrected these mistakes. I'm not fluent enough in any language to write this, but maybe one of you is? Hi Vivian, Thanks for the info! I wrote the following file to be used with the sed tool: s/feta-alphabet[0-9]+/Emmentaler/g s/font-family:Century/font-family:Century Schoolbook L/g s/font-family:L/font-family:Century Schoolbook L/g Call this with sed -Ef lilyfix.sed lilyfile.svg lilyfile_fixed.svg. I did have to make one change, which was to generalize the expression for feta-alphabet to work with other sizes. This sed script has to be run manually from the command line after each time you call lilypond; I found that to be a pain, so I wrote a shell script called lilysvg, which looks mostly like this (full paths are omitted for brevity): #!/bin/sh .../lilypond -bsvg -o /tmp/lilysvg $1.ly sed -Ef .../fix.sed /tmp/ lilysvg.svg $1.svg Call it with lilysvg lilyfile, being sure to leave off the .ly of the filename. Thanks again for the information on this! I've now used LilyPond to create SVG files of some music snippets for Wikipedia—you can see a small gallery at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bdesham/ Images#Musical_images. HTH, -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A Esperanto, the international language ☆ http://www.lernu.net PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond SVG output
Benjamin Esham wrote: [how to get usable SVG output from LilyPond] I neglected to mention two things... First, there are still some symbols (such as the piano-staff brace) that do not show up in Inkscape. I'm not sure whether this is a LilyPond issue, a font issue, or an Inkscape issue (although I did try playing around with the font on the brace's text object and that did not help). The second is a larger issue. In order for anyone else to be able to make use of a LilyPond SVG file, it is necessary to convert all of the text to paths. (In Inkscape, this is accomplished with the Convert to Path command.) Due to the way LilyPond exports its SVG stuff, every single object is placed in its own group. Usually, you'd be able to Select All, Ungroup, and Convert to Path in order to get the text out of groups and to convert it into paths. However, when you actually do that, there's a curious effect: all of the staff lines disappear! It turns out that each of those groups actually contained some style information that transformed or scaled its contents in some way. For example, the staff lines are initially very, very thin; only after the transformation is applied do they become visible at all. The result here is that while doing an Ungroup on the note heads, accidentals, etc. has no apparent effect, there are serious effects if you try to do it to staff lines, beams, and possibly some other simple shapes like those. The end result is that in order to make LilyPond's SVG output usable by anyone else, you must select each note head and accidental in the piece and perform an Ungroup and a Convert to Path. Needless to say, this is nigh-unthinkable for any music longer than a snippet. I think that the best solution to this issue would be to apply the transformation information to the objects directly instead of wrapping them with groups. That way, a simple Select All and Convert to Path would make a LilyPond SVG file readable by anyone. Any workarounds would be greatly appreciated! Any patches to LilyPond would be *tremendously* appreciated ;-) Cheers and HTH, -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A The silent h is very flexible. When I'm talking, I'll toss in a silent h every third syllable, and no one seems to mind. I'm not trying to show off by doing it. I just like the way it doesn't sound.— Scott Adams ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: SVG output sponsorship
Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: While I'm a committed Lilyponder, and much prefer the output to other programs, [fixing Lilypond's SVG output] would seem to be a valuable investment in terms of user-friendliness. Could you give me an estimate of what this would cost, Han-Wen? Are there others who would be willing to co-sponsor this? I wouldn't be able to contribute much (maybe $35/€25), but would be willing to contribute if someone were to take on this fix. Any others? -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A Conservative, n. A statesman enamored of existing evils, as opposed to a Liberal, who wants to replace them with new ones. — Ambrose Bierce, /The Devil's Dictionary/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond extension/plugin for MediaWiki software
Mark Dewey wrote: I've heard tell that there is a LilyPond extension or plugin for MediaWiki (that's the software they use with Wikipedia). I have a wiki (HymnWiki.org) that uses LilyPond files quite a bit . . . so, I'm interested in finding out what the plugin is for, what it is called, and where I can get it. Do any of you know? Try these (probably in this order): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiTeX http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Music_markup http://wikisophia.org/wiki/Main_Page If you need further information, your best bet is probably to post to Wikitech-l: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l. I've heard that it requires LilyPond to be installed on the server. Is this true? Undoubtedly. It doesn't really make sense otherwise :-) HTH, -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun. — Stephen Hawking ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fonts in SVG output
Benjamin Esham wrote: I'm having some issues with Lilypond 2.10.x's SVG export. I seem to have fixed most (all?) of my font problems. I now have another problem, however. In order to submit one of LilyPond's SVGs to e.g. the Wikimedia Commons, it is necessary to convert all of its text into paths; that way, users need not have LilyPond's fonts in order to view the image correctly. Before converting text into paths in Inkscape, you must make sure that none of the text is contained within a group. Therefore, I started to process my file by selecting everything and issuing an Ungroup command. When I did so, the staff lines disappeared! Apparently every object in the file is in a one-element group. For some reason, ungrouping the staff lines made them disappear—they were still present, just not visible. I think there may be an Inkscape bug at play here too, since Select All couldn't find the lines, but on the LilyPond end... how can I get Lily to create a sane, usable SVG file? Any help is greatly appreciated here. -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.— attributed to Edmund Burke ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fonts in SVG output
Graham Percival wrote: I strongly urge anybody who is interested in SVG support to consider contributing resources (either source code or offering a bounty) to this end. If you are involved in a project that uses SVG (like this Wikimedia Commons thing), then perhaps you could encourage one of their programmers (who is familiar with SVG) to work on lilypond's output. I have posted a call for help to that effect to the Wikimedia Commons mailing list; hopefully someone there will be able to contribute, or will know someone who can. (There should be a number of SVG experts on that list, and a bunch of coders as well.) I would help myself, but know very little about SVG's internals, and nothing whatsoever about Scheme. Maybe if I get some free time I can learn... Cheers, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail As Gregor Samsa woke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a monstrous vermin. — Kafka, /The Metamorphosis/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Hard-to-engrave bits involving polyphony
Hello all,
I'm engraving one of Chopin's nocturnes for Mutopia and I've run into a
couple of limitations that I don't know how to get around.
First off, I have a situation like this:
\relative c'' {
{ f8 e ~ c e c e } \\
{ c4 s4 }
}
where I need the c4 tied to the c in the first c e—in other words, I have
a chord where one note needs to be tied to a note in the same voice and the
other note is tied to a note from a different voice! What's more, I need an
arpeggio to the left of the first notes (the c and the f). How can I
accomplish this?
Secondly, I have a similar situation involving polyphony:
\relative c'' {
{ a8 d } \\
{ e,8 a }
}
where the first a8 needs to be tied to the second a.
Finally, I have a grace note situation like this:
\relative c' {
{ c4 e g r } \\ { s2 s4 s8 \acciaccatura b8 s8 }
\acciaccatura b8 c1
}
where I need both grace notes tied to the c1.
Can anyone help with any of these annoying little problems? Thanks a ton in
advance!
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Re: Fonts in SVG output
John Mandereau wrote: Currently, it's not a good idea to include SVG files generated by LilyPond in web pages on the Internet, because you have to make sure OTF fonts -- from the LilyPond version used to generate the SVG -- are installed on the (e.g. in ~/.fonts). SVG files generated by LilyPond are rather to be processed on a server or a machine building a web site, where SVGs are cnoverted to PNGs -- that's what we do on lilypond.org for language-dependent pictures, see http://lilypond.org/web/switch/howto for example. I use Inkscape's convert text to paths feature to ensure that the end-user need not have the LilyPond fonts installed. (That will work like I think it does, right?) Cheers, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fonts in SVG output
Krokyn wrote: and the piano-staff brace showed up as a small box. I think there is problem with font, not in Inkscape. Preview of svg file is with bad fonts in Gnome Nautilus too. It is not possible choose Aubabtu from font list in Text Editors (I tried it in OpenOffice in Ubuntu). And I have bad note heads shown with other font in Inkscape too and changed the clefs :( Please compare: http://krokyn.wz.cz/Hudba/Bach.png http://krokyn.wz.cz/Hudba/Bach.svg-Inkscape.png My output is the same as yours. What should I do to file this as an official bug? Wikipedia has some music samples that were made with Sibelius and which are quite ugly. I'm trying to replace them with SVG, the preferred format, from LilyPond, but obviously the output is useless right now. Thanks, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail Esperanto, the international language ☆ http://www.lernu.net PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fonts in SVG output
Hello all, I'm having some issues with Lilypond 2.10.x's SVG export. I tried to open an exported file in Inkscape 0.44.1, and most of the music showed up fine, but the time signature was in a wrong font, and the piano-staff brace showed up as a small box. I've already copied the fonts from .../share/lilypond/fonts/otf into ~/.fonts; is there anything else I need to do to get exported SVG files to appear correctly? Thanks for any help, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail “It is the unknown we fear when we look upon death and darkness, nothing more.” — Albus Dumbledore in HBP PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Markup for cadenza rest
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
I am typesetting a horn part from a piano concerto, and I'm
having difficulty with the Cadenza rests in the piece. What I
would like is a rest in the staff—it can be a 4-beat rest, like
r1, a full- measure rest, like R1, or a long multi-measure rest,
with the horizontal bar; I don't really care which kind. Above
that, center- aligned, should be a fermata, and aligned above
that, the word Cadenza.
You should definitely use R1^\markup{...}
One method to get the horizontal size the way you want it
is to manually specify the width, such as
\override MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #10
I couldn't find any method to let LilyPond figure out the width
automatically.
Thanks a lot, Mats! This worked great for me:
cadenzaTwoBeats = {
\once \override MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #9
R2^\markup{ \override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \center-align
{ \italic Cadenza \musicglyph #scripts.ufermata } }
}
cadenzaFourBeats = {
\once \override MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #9
R1^\markup{ \override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \center-align
{ \italic Cadenza \musicglyph #scripts.ufermata } }
}
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Markup for cadenza rest
Hello all,
I am typesetting a horn part from a piano concerto, and I'm having
difficulty with the Cadenza rests in the piece. What I would like
is a rest in the staff—it can be a 4-beat rest, like r1, a full-
measure rest, like R1, or a long multi-measure rest, with the
horizontal bar; I don't really care which kind. Above that, center-
aligned, should be a fermata, and aligned above that, the word
Cadenza.
I haven't found any way to get an acceptable result. I'm using
LilyPond 2.10.15. If I use r1^\markup{...}, I get the text fine, but
the rest is not center-aligned in the measure. If I use R1^\markup
{...}, the measure is condensed to just the horizontal size of the
rest, and the text sticks out of the measure. (Using \fatText had no
effect on this.) Can anyone tell me how to get the output I
described above? Thanks!
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RSS/Atom feed for new releases?
Hello all, Is there any RSS (or Atom) feed currently set up to track new releases? I try to keep up with the latest stable release of LilyPond, but in order to do so I have to visit the website periodically, which I can never remember to do. I took a look at the git page, and there seems to be feeds on most of the pages, but I'm not sure which one I would need to subscribe to in order to be notified of new releases. Is there any feed set up currently, or is there any possibility that one could be created? Thanks a lot! -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia•http://en.wikipedia.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to invoke lilypond from vim
[Sorry about that… I replied to the sender and forgot to include the list.] Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Good night to all, I was wondering how can I invoke lilypond from vim ? I tried with :make but it invokes gnu make. I looked at lilypond.vim on compilers folder of vim plugin and it seams to me that what I should do was just run make what did i miss ? Here's what I've got in my .vimrc for Lilypond: process and view PDF of a ly file nmap Leaderl :call LilyPondCompileOpen()CR open this file's corresponding pdf nmap Leaderp :call Open_PDF()CR :: change a file's extension function! ChangeExt(name, ext) let name = substitute(a:name, \.[a-zA-Z0-9_]*$, \..a:ext, ) return name endfunction :: compile and open a LilyPond file function! LilyPondCompileOpen() write let pdfname = ChangeExt(expand(%), pdf) exe !/Applications/Lilypond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond - dno-point-and-click --pdf '%' open ' . pdfname . ' endfunction :: open the PDF associated with this file (used for ly, tex) function! Open_PDF() silent exe :!open '.ChangeExt(expand(%), pdf') endfunction HTH, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail It is the unknown we fear when we look upon death and darkness, nothing more. — Albus Dumbledore in HBP PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Syntax questions
Markus Schneider wrote:
Hi Benjamin,
Lilypond and I are disagreeing about some syntax in 2.8,
hopefully someone can help...
hn = { \markup{Hn.} }
use:
hn = \markup{Hn.}
Also, I'm having difficulty understanding the syntax of the
\column command.
cText = \markup { \column { 1st 2nd 3rd } }
These worked fine, thanks! Another question: is there a way to use
\fatText with rests? I'm trying to do
R1^\markup{ \column{ Vc. cadenza \musicglyph
#scripts.ufermata } }
but calling \fatText beforehand doesn't do anything. The problem is
that the text is too wide for the horizontal space given to the rest;
I'd like the rest's measure to expand to fit this text. Is this
possible?
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Syntax questions
Hello all,
Lilypond and I are disagreeing about some syntax in 2.8, hopefully
someone can help...
I have a statement like
hn = { \markup{Hn.} }
in the body of my .ly file; it's not inside any blocks or anything,
it's just out by itself. Lilypond claims that the above statement is
a syntax error, but I have a line directly above it like
bigBar = { \bar || \mark \default }
Is there something special about the \markup command that prevents it
from being used in shortcuts like that?
Also, I'm having difficulty understanding the syntax of the \column
command. The manual tells me I should give it a list of args, but
gives no idea as to what delimiters such a list would use. (A single
example would go a long way here.) Can someone provide a simple
example of \column?
Thanks a lot for any help!
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Re: Half-sheet music
Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote: Mattl wrote: I am trying to re-write a hard-to-read half sheet of music for my marching band. It needs to take up a half sheet, and i can't figure out how to do this. The dimensions I need are 8.5 by 5.5 inches, and i need them ASAP. Thanks in advance for any help! P.S. I have tried everything i can think of. Nothing worked. I have spent about 2 hours trying to figure it out. I dont know what platform you are on, but I use custom paper sizes all the time on WindowsXP, here are the steps to follow: [...] I had to do this same thing recently, except that my paper was even smaller than a half-sheet. I've tried to use non-standard paper sizes with LilyPond before, and it never worked, so here's what I did. These instructions will only work directly in OS X, but are probably adaptable to anything. (I'm not actually printing on smaller paper, I'm just cutting pieces out of a US Letter page.) 1. Typeset your piece in LilyPond as usual. Use a larger staff size than you normally would; use no headers and set tagline= so that nothing but the music is output. 2. Use pdfcrop on the output PDF. 3. In OmniGraffle (or another vector-based drawing program), make a rectangle of the size of your paper. 4. Drag the cropped PDF into the OmniGraffle document and resize it to fit the paper. Add the piece title or whatever. 5. Print and cut out your music. Hope this helps someone somewhere! -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Benefits of OS X binary vs. Fink version?
Hello all, I use Mac OS X, and have Lilypond installed with Fink. Recently, however, with the transition to Intel hardware, the latest version of Lilypond available there is 2.6.3. (2.8.2 is listed, but does not compile for me.) What are the advantages and disadvantages of downloading the “official” pre-built version and running that from the command line? Will that version recognize the relevant parts of the Fink installation, or does it provide all of its own stuff? Thanks for any guidance here. -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail • Still using Internet Explorer? Firefox is newer, more secure, and has better support for standards. http://www.getfirefox.com PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.8 for OS X with Fink?
Matthias Neeracher wrote: Benjamin Esham wrote: Does anyone (Matthias?) have any idea when LilyPond 2.8 and/or 2.9 will become available for Mac OS X through Fink? I have the latest package descriptions from CVS, and the latest versions available are 2.6.4 (for stable) and 2.7.28 (for testing). 2.8.2 and 2.9.4 are now in fink CVS. There were protracted problems with the sourceforge CVS infrastructure, so submitting updates was difficult for several months, plus I had a new baby to take care of, so I was a bit behind in updating. OK, this is great news! Thanks a lot! Have fun with fatherhood :-) -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond 2.8 for OS X with Fink?
Hello all, Does anyone (Matthias?) have any idea when LilyPond 2.8 and/or 2.9 will become available for Mac OS X through Fink? I have the latest package descriptions from CVS, and the latest versions available are 2.6.4 (for stable) and 2.7.28 (for testing). Cheers, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail “Given that sooner or later we're all just going to die, what's the point of learning about integers?” — Calvin PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond and OpenDocument
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: There is a notice in the sponsoring section of the website that lists something about OOorg. I wrote and asked Han-Wen about it and was told that there was a bridge that made the project possible but that it would be expensive You might want to take a look at the source code of OOoLaTeX (http:// ooolatex.sourceforge.net/). It's an OpenOffice.org extension that lets you add LaTeX expressions to your documents; it converts them on- the-fly to EMF (or another appropriate format) and lets you play with some of the settings. It supports EPS, I think, so it might not be impossible to hack it to do something similar for LilyPond. HTH, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP key ID: 0xD676BB9A | AIM: bdesham128 Jabber ID: same as e-mail address | encrypted e-mail preferred “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”— Stephen Hawking PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Auto beaming question
Hello all, I'm trying to typeset a piece (it's the Allemanda from Bach's second violin partita, BWV 1004, in case you care). I'm having a little bit of trouble configuring the auto beaming to do exactly what I want. There are basically three rhythmic units present in the piece (which is in 4/4 time): - groups of sixteenth notes. These should be beamed per beat, i.e. in groups of four. - groups of sixteenth and thirty-second notes. These should also be beamed per beat, e.g. three sixteenths and two thirty-seconds. - sixteenth note triplets. These should be beamed one per half beat, i.e. three notes beamed together. I'm currently using the following commands: #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 24 * *) 21 24) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 24 * *) 9 24) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 32 * *) 1 4) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 32 * *) 2 4) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 32 * *) 3 4) The sixteenth note triplets are beamed correctly, but the groups with thirty-second notes are beamed incorrectly. Can anyone tell me which auto-beaming commands to use? Thanks! -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia • http://en.wikipedia.org PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Auto beaming question
On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Joe Neeman wrote: Benjamin Esham wrote: - groups of sixteenth and thirty-second notes. These should also be beamed per beat, e.g. three sixteenths and two thirty-seconds. #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 32 * *) 1 4) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 32 * *) 2 4) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 32 * *) 3 4) The sixteenth note triplets are beamed correctly, but the groups with thirty-second notes are beamed incorrectly. Can anyone tell me which auto-beaming commands to use? Thanks! [...] So in order to get the behaviour you want, you need to _remove_ rules, not add them: #(revert-auto-beam-settings '(end 1 32 4 4) 1 8) #(revert-auto-beam-settings '(end 1 32 4 4) 3 8) .. and so on This worked like a charm. Thanks! :-) -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia • http://en.wikipedia.org PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why not a forum?
Johann Petrak wrote: I am pretty new to lilypond and this list, but I wonder if it would be possible to create a discussion forum on the lilypond website? My experience is that forums are much more convenient to discuss problems. One of the advantages is that one can make different forums for different areas of discussion. One can also make certain frequently occuring topics sticky or easily provide links to manuals and other documentation. An alternative, the anachronistic version of a forum would be a USENET group ... I think people generally prefer mailing lists because they allow users to view content the way they want to view it; people have much more control over their mail clients than over web-based fora. If you want to view LilyPond lists as USENET groups, check out http://gmane.org/find.php?list=lilypond For me, GMANE is great because mailing lists are often much easier to work with when they're presented as USENET groups; the threading, for example. HTH, -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 People who boast about their I.Q. are losers. — Stephen Hawking PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Favorite editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans wrote: I am new to the list, but I have been using Lilypond for the last year or so, currently version 2.4.5 on Debian Sarge. Right now I edit ly-files with Midnight Commander, have a terminal open for making output and a file-manager to open the pdf or ps. Working like this means constant switching between windows (edit, save, run lilypond file.ly in the terminal, chech the pdf). Is there an editor for Lilypond like Bluefish for html? Or is there a smarter way to work. I would love to hear your experience. Thank you. I use Vim (www.vim.org), and I have some commands in my ~/.vimrc to help with LilyPond editing: nmap Leaderl :call LilyPondCompileOpen()CR function! ChangeExt(name, ext) let name = substitute(a:name, \.[a-zA-Z0-9_]*$, \..a:ext, ) return name endfunction function! LilyPondCompileOpen() write let pdfname = ChangeExt(expand(%), pdf) let path = /sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin let fontconfig = /sw/share/fontconfig-path/fontconfig-path.conf let setenv_command = env PATH=.path. FONTCONFIG_FILE=.fontconfig. exe ! . setenv_command . /sw/bin/lilypond -dno-point-and- click --pdf '%' open ' . pdfname . ' endfunction Obviously, these commands are specific to my system―I use fink with Mac OS X, so the /sw paths would be different, and I'm not sure whether other OSes have an open command. The idea is clear, however; when editing, I can type \l and the current file will be processed with LilyPond and its output displayed. I'm really happy with this system; it's pretty much perfectly integrated into my editor, so the only program switching I have to do is between Vim and my PDF viewer. HTH, - -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 A witty saying proves nothing.― Voltaire -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDQv6kzOC3TdZ2u5oRAkWVAJ4leqUbAcU3F0xkeYxi39bvgmBAPQCdEaj4 oQq802LRHzDyaK5jYddVVB0= =kEIC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Changing the font for all text in a document
In LilyPond 2.6.x, is it possible to select a certain font to be used for all text? I looked at the font selection section of the manual, but didn't really see a way to change the font for everything in the document. Can someone tell me how to do this? Thanks! -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 * Still using Internet Explorer? Firefox is newer, more secure, and has features like tabbed browsing. http://www.getfirefox.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond uses sans-serif font after 2.6 upgrade
On Jul 25, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Benjamin Esham wrote: I'm using LilyPond 2.6.1 with fink 0.24.7 on Mac OS X 10.4.2. After I updated from Lily 2.4.x to 2.6.1, LilyPond started to use an ugly sans-serif font (Verdana, specifically) for all text in my score-- titles, bar numbers, text markups, etc. This happens even in files with no special font-related commands whatsoever. I'm not sure where to begin to fix this-- can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks a ton! can you file this problem with Matthias? I think he forgot to ship the New Century Schoolbook fonts. OK, I'll do this (though doesn't he read this list anyway?). You could also try running the native macos version. What's the difference between that and the fink version? I don't need anything other than the command-line version, and I like the relatively-automated update process that fink provides. (I looked for stuff about the Mac OS X version on the website, but couldn't find anything.) -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 * Still using Internet Explorer? Firefox is newer, more secure, and has features like tabbed browsing. http://www.getfirefox.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond uses sans-serif font after 2.6 upgrade
I'm using LilyPond 2.6.1 with fink 0.24.7 on Mac OS X 10.4.2. After I updated from Lily 2.4.x to 2.6.1, LilyPond started to use an ugly sans-serif font (Verdana, specifically) for all text in my score-- titles, bar numbers, text markups, etc. This happens even in files with no special font-related commands whatsoever. I'm not sure where to begin to fix this-- can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks a ton! -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 * Still using Internet Explorer? Firefox is newer, more secure, and has features like tabbed browsing. http://www.getfirefox.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: More than one measure repeat in a row
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On Jul 21, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Paul Scott wrote:
Benjamin Esham wrote:
I'm trying to typeset music that has three one-measure repeats in
a row-- i.e., the measure before them is to be played a total of
four times. Is there a way to get this using LilyPond? I
couldn't find anything in the manual or the mailing list archives.
I'm using LilyPond 2.4.5, though I'm planning to upgrade to 2.6.1
soon.
\repeat percent 4 { music }
Look up repeats in the doc's. I didn't see a complete description
in my quick look right now but the above works.
This worked great-- thanks! I was under the impression that using
4 produces single-beat repeats, but it made three measure repeats
in this case.
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Re: More than one measure repeat in a row
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 21, 2005, at 11:43 AM, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 21:40 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Benjamin Esham wrote: I'm trying to typeset music that has three one-measure repeats in a row-- i.e., the measure before them is to be played a total of four times. Is there a way to get this using LilyPond? I couldn't find anything in the manual or the mailing list archives. I'm using LilyPond 2.4.5, though I'm planning to upgrade to 2.6.1 soon. I think the OP means something repeated four times so four endings (voltas) are required. See volta daveA Actually, I meant measure repeats-- the music should look like this: note note | % | % | % | where % is the measure repeat sign. Paul's solution seemed to work. - -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 * Still using Internet Explorer? Firefox is newer, more secure, and has features like tabbed browsing. http://www.getfirefox.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFC38zdzOC3TdZ2u5oRAtC6AKD+3p4Jkx7K1ViZ4923+03FCJ/KtQCgqI2M 2/MH0NAGP/ncv7PDdPtbuRE= =9P2i -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
More than one measure repeat in a row
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to typeset music that has three one-measure repeats in a row-- i.e., the measure before them is to be played a total of four times. Is there a way to get this using LilyPond? I couldn't find anything in the manual or the mailing list archives. I'm using LilyPond 2.4.5, though I'm planning to upgrade to 2.6.1 soon. - -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 * Still using Internet Explorer? Firefox is newer, more secure, and has features like tabbed browsing. http://www.getfirefox.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFC3v9kzOC3TdZ2u5oRAkZZAJ9iPxU9gTEN17EmHPZ14uD3hQS1hgCdHEYm Z9NWGGyKX2CI6FH1yq991l8= =ujVY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New glyph, language.ly (from: notation for pitch bends and drops)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:43 AM, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: Is there any objection to my having my own language.ly? [...] I don't like to hack like that without permission, especially if I'm the only one doing the thing in question. Go right ahead-- there's nothing stopping you from doing whatever you want with LilyPond. The only potential issue is that if you distribute your .ly files, you'll have to either change them to one of the standard language formats or include your own along with the file. After all, a flat *is* a letter b. Er... a flat *looks* like a letter b. Otherwise, they are not related at all. - -- Benjamin D. Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia --- http://en.wikipedia.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCCn7izOC3TdZ2u5oRAvB7AKDW8CUlj0Yat3L2PjclBGTo47dPTQCePleT it3787KD9kQZ02hbFbkYrF8= =bNRC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: arpeggio in polyphony
On Jan 17, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Albert Einstein wrote:
Do someone know what changes must be set to connect arpeggio' brackets
in one?
I attach files: ly (2.4.2) and gif illustrate problem -- on picture
thera are two
brackets not one as I want; I need one bracket for barre (fret
indication) in guitar.
(This is not a solution, but maybe it'll help someone to think of one.)
Perhaps you could do something like (warning: bad syntax ahead):
f2 \\ { a' f,4\arpeggio }
where the f, in the chord is made invisible so that the stem and the
head do not
show, but the bracket extends down far enough anyway. I could probably
find
how to do this in the manual, but I don't have time right now. Anyone
have any
ideas?
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Re: Extra bar at the end.
On Jan 17, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Gordon Gilbert wrote:
Hi!
What am I missing here? Using 2.2.2, the PDF output has an extra bar
at
the very end of the bass clef (but not in the treble clef). I've
checked all
my notes and words, and everything seems correct, but there is that
strange
extra empty bar.
Take a look at the tenor part, line 125:
123: c'2 c'4
124: c' g a |
125: c' b g8 f | % this bar
126: e2. ~ e
That f should be an f4, I think (right now it's an eighth note, but a
quarter
and three eights is not a complete measure). I just skimmed the rest
of the
file, but I think this might be your problem.
Also, a semi-related tip: one thing I find helpful is to put an
explicit duration
on the first note of every new line (which is also every new measure,
if you
write one measure per line). Trying to remember which duration a note
should
be is just too error-prone, IMO.
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Re: reminder accidentals
On Dec 24, 2004, at 1:50 PM, Ridwan Sami wrote:
i have this habit of forgetting to play certain notes
as sharp of flat when a peice has a key signature
other than c major.
i would manually put in the ! for accidental
reminders but there are well over ten-thousand such
notes in the peices that i am trying to play.
does anyone know of a way to put the ! at the end of
notes in an lengthy .ly file quickly so that there are
no syntax errors?
What text editor are you using? You (or someone else) could probably
write
a regular expression to add ! to all notes with accidentals. OTOH,
it might be
easier just to get used to key signatures other than C major :-)
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Re: reminder accidentals
On Dec 24, 2004, at 2:55 PM, Ridwan Sami wrote:
Benjamin Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
does anyone know of a way to put the ! at the end of notes in an
lengthy .ly file quickly so that there are no syntax errors?
What text editor are you using? You (or someone else) could probably
write a regular expression to add ! to all notes with accidentals.
the notes in the .ly were exported by rosegarden 4 so they have varying
numbers of apostrophes and commas and if i don't figure out how to use
wilcards, i will be stuck with about 50 replacement operations, highly
subject to error.
did you have a specific text editor in mind that can do this
efficiently?
Any text editor that supports regular expressions should work. Make a
backup of your file, and then try playing around with this (you'll
probably have to change the syntax somewhat):
s/\([a-g]\)\(es\|is\)\{1,2}\('*\)/\1\2\3!/g
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Re: forte subite under the pitch
On Dec 21, 2004, at 7:00 AM, Albert Einstein wrote:
I need two words under one pitch: \f subito
When I use a''\f_\markup{subito} then subito covers forte sign.
What is the solution?
One possible solution (untested):
a''\markup{\dynamic f subito}
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PianoStaff label moving downwards
Hello all,
I'm typesetting some piano music with LilyPond 2.4.2, and I'd like the
grand
staff to be labeled 19. Using the code below, it was working fine,
but all of
a sudden the label moved downwards. I can't figure out what I changed
to
cause this; does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
\context PianoStaff
\set PianoStaff.instrument = 19. %\markup{\fontsize #4 {19.}
\hspace #1.0 }
\new Staff
\rightNotes
\new Staff
\set Staff.printPartCombineTexts = ##f
\partcombine
\leftQuarterNotes
\leftNotes
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Slurs and polyphony
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Is there any clean-looking way to use slurs that do the following--
- - start in the default (i.e. monophonic) voice and end in a polyphonic
voice?
- - start in a polyphonic voice and end in the default voice?
- - start in one polyphonic voice and end in another? (This actually
happens in
a Chopin piece I'm typesetting.)
I looked through the mailing list archives, but didn't find a way short
of creating
a third voice full of spacer notes for each one of these cases, and
that seems like
an ugly solution to me. Does anyone have suggestions? Thanks!
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Custom paper sizes?
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How do I manually set the height and width of the paper I'm printing/
outputting to? I tried to set [hv]size in the \layout block, but
nothing
seemed to change. I also tried to manually edit paper.scm by adding
another line like
(handheld . (cons (* 4.4 in) (* 4.4 in)))
[I'm trying to output to a size suitable for viewing on a PDA screen.]
I
then used #(set-default-paper-size handheld), but the paper size
wasn't
recognized. How can I manually set the paper size? (I think it must be
obvious, but I've missed it anyway.) Thanks!
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Re: Custom paper sizes?
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On Nov 14, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Paul Scott wrote:
Benjamin Esham wrote:
How do I manually set the height and width of the paper I'm printing/
outputting to? I tried to set [hv]size in the \layout block, but
nothing
seemed to change.
What version? In 2.4 those go in the \paper block.
You're right... I thought that \paper was simply renamed to \layout,
but I
guess it's more complicated than that. Anyway, I tried this:
\paper {
hsize = 4.4\in
vsize = 4.4\in
}
and the paper size (as displayed by Adobe Acrobat Reader 6.0 on Mac OS
X) is still 8.26 x 11.69 in, but the formatting is messed up. The
staves are
shifted to the left about 2 (maybe 2.2?) inchesthere's a big gap at
the right
side, and the lines are cut off at the left. Also, only 23 staves are
printed
on each page, compared to 46 previously.
Any ideas what's going on, and how I can set a custom paper size? (Are
there
other variables that need to be set in \paper?)
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Re: Custom paper sizes?
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On Nov 14, 2004, at 8:27 PM, Paul Scott wrote:
Any ideas what's going on, and how I can set a custom paper size?
(Are there
other variables that need to be set in \paper?)
I think you will have to set all relevant variables: linewidth,
textheight, and
maybe margins. I think these are set when you set papersize or
#(set-default-
paper-size a4). Also set Paper Scaling in Acrobat Reader to None.
OK, I tried
\paper {
topmargin = 0.5\in
bottommargin = 0.5\in
leftmargin = 0.5\in
linewidth = 3.4\in
headsep = 0\in
footsep = 0\in
hsize = 4.4\in
vsize = 4.4\in
}
and the formatting seems to be OK (except for the tagline)i.e.,
everything is, as
far as I can tell, within a 4.4x4.4-inch squarebut the paper size
remains the same.
I tried to open the PDF in Acrobat Reader, Preview, and
GraphicConverter, and the
PS file in Preview, but the paper size was the same (letter-ish) in all
of them.
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Full-sized clefs for clef changes?
I'm engraving a simple piece-- it's a demonstration of middle C with
various clefs, and it looks like this:
\clef treblec'1
\clef alto c'
\clef tenor c'
\clef bass c'
After each whole note, there is a small clef, a bar line, and then the
next note. Is there a way to a) make the clef full-sized, and b) put
the clef after the bar line? (I looked at the Clef entry in the manual
and in the developer docs but I didn't find anything.) Thanks!
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Re: Making a fake half note
On Nov 8, 2004, at 5:05 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
This feature is now described in a subsection of the manual called
Scaling durations. Can you propose some change to the documentation
that makes it easier to find this useful trick? (Of course, there
are hundreds of different small tricks that may be just as useful in
other occasions and also deserve a nice place in the manual).
To be honest, I didn't really look at the documentation-- I saw a file
on Mutopia
(Chopin's Prelude No. 15) which had a fake half note, and looked at
the source
for that file. (I couldn't just steal that code because I wanted the
half note near
the end of the measure.)
Anyway, the best thing I can think of is to insert a reference to this
trick in the
Tips and Tricks section of the docs. That's where I'd be most likely
to look if
I didn't already have an example.
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Making a fake half note
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I'm trying to engrave a quarter note with a half note (i.e., empty)
head. I'm
guessing I have to play with the style property of NoteHead; however,
the
manual doesn't give any indication of what kinds of values this
property can
be changed to. What do I need to set style to in order to obtain a
half note head?
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Re: Making a fake half note
On Nov 6, 2004, at 8:25 PM, D Josiah Boothby wrote:
Benjamin Esham wrote:
I'm trying to engrave a quarter note with a half note (i.e., empty)
head. I'm
guessing I have to play with the style property of NoteHead; however,
the
manual doesn't give any indication of what kinds of values this
property can
be changed to. What do I need to set style to in order to obtain a
half note head?
I'm sure you can do it that way, it might be easier to do something
like this:
a2*1/2
which draws a half note, but gives it the metric value of a quarter
note.
That worked great-- I never would have thought of it. Thanks!
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Changing spacing-increment under 2.3.25?
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I'm using LilyPond 2.3.25 under Mac OS X, and I'm trying to change the
value
of spacing-increment. With previous versions, I could do, e.g.,
\paper {
\context { \Score \override SpacingSpanner #'spacing-increment =
#3.0 }
}
but in the latest version, this doesn't work anymore. How can I do
this under
2.3.25? Thanks (and happy Halloween, if you celebrate it)!
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Re: two questions
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On Oct 11, 2004, at 8:10 PM, Michiel Lange wrote:
when I create a part like this [...] The music shifts up one octave
(quite logically)
I fixed it so far with \octave c'' wherever it would go wrong...
Is there a way to prevent this (as \octave c'' will give warnings, and
is not the best
solution) ? I was thinking about an invisible, unheard note that would
prevent
octave shifting... or is there a better way?
I'm sure there is a better way, but this should work (untested):
fooFirst = \notes
{
c4 d e f g a b c r4
}
foo = \notes
{
c,4 d e f g a b c r4
}
bar = \notes
{
e4 b c d a g
}
\relative c''
{
\fooFirst
\bar
\foo
\bar
\foo
\bar
}
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Problems with titling in 2.3.16
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I'm running Lilypond 2.3.16 through Fink, and I'm having trouble with
titling
(i.e. the header). My title line looks like this
title = Star-Spangled Banner
When I run Lilypond on the file, the title is Star Spangled
Bannerwhere
the hyphen should be, there's only blank space approximately the width
of an
em dash.
My other issue is getting a copyright sign (, if my e-mail client
works :-))
to appear in the copyright text. I currently have this:
copyright = \markup { \char #169 My Organization, inc. }
This displays My Organization, inc.the space after the copyright
sign is
printed, but the sign itself is not. I've also tried a literal in
the \markup
command, but with the same effect. As far as I can tell, my editor is
saving in
the latin1 encoding, and I've added an '\encoding latin1' at the top
of the file.
Does anyone know how I can fix these problems?
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Re: Code check for a measure error, please
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On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I'm working on a score and cannot find what cause of a measure
check error is. I've pasted the code below, with the results of running
lilypond on the file.
r16 f16.[ ef16] d8--[ bf,--]
r16 d16.[ ef16] f8--[ d--]
The rhythms in these measures look rather odd. I'm not sure what
they're supposed
to be, but in any event, these are not complete bars in 2/4 time. (Or
maybe it's just
too late for me to... uh... be coherent. Yeah-- I think I'll go to bed
now.)
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Re: Natural signs in accidentals
On Aug 13, 2004, at 4:17 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
It is actually in the documentation. At the bottom of the section on
Accidentals, you can find links to the Program reference of the
Accidental_engraver. In the list of properties, you can find a
property called extraNatural that handles exactly this issue.
So, just add
\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f ges1
As usual, Mats, your solution worked beautifully. I guess my only
excuse
for not finding that in the documentation is that
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.3/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-
internals/Accidental_engraver.html
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Natural signs in accidentals
Maybe this is addressed in the documentation, but I didn't see it
anywhere,
so I'm asking here.Anyway, consider this music snippet:
\key a \major% three sharps: F#, C#, G#
ges'1
The G-flat is displayed with two accidentals: a natural (which I assume
is
supposed to cancel the sharp in the key signature), and then the flat.
I'm
wondering if there's any way to prevent the first natural from
displaying.
I realize that American concert band music may not be the pinnacle of
beautifully-engraved music :-P, but I'd still like to get rid of that
natural.
Is there any way to do that? Thanks.
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Re: Some random lilypond questions
On Aug 11, 2004, at 4:20 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
- Can a \sffz dynamic command be added? One can make this using text
markups, but it seems like the real dynamic markings are more
horizontally centered on the notes than the markups.
This is unfortunately not answered in the documentation, but if you
take a look at the file
/usr/share/lilypond/2.x.x//ly/dynamic-scripts-init.ly
you can see how the currently available dynamic markings are defined.
OK, I took a look at the file, and was able to add a \sffz command.
Would
it be useful if I wrote something about this for the manual?
As far as I understand, better support for multiple scores in a single
.ly file is one of the main improvements in the experimental 2.3.x
versions, which seems to be what Benjamin is already using.
Yep, I'm using 2.3.11-- sorry I forgot to mention that.
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Re: Some random lilypond questions
On Aug 11, 2004, at 4:04 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
To see what I'm talking about, take a look at the first example image
in the
Multi measure rests section of the user manual. The 17-measure
rest is as
I described it above, while the 4-measure rest is displayed
differently. I'm
trying to get all of the multi-measure rests to be displayed like the
17-
measure example (as I said, this seems to be the standard in every
concert
band piece I've seen).
If you look at the section on Multimeasure rests in the on-line manual
and look at the end of the page, you will find a link to the detailed
program reference for the MultiMeasureRest object. In the list of
properties that can be set, you can find one called expand-limit,
which you can set to a lower value, for example
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = #1
A hint about this property can also be found in the example
multi-measure-rest.ly in the Regression Tests document (which
is an invaluable source of examples and information, together
with the Tips and Tricks document).
I looked at the documentation for the MultiMeasureRest object, as well
as
multi-measure-rest.ly, but the only thing I found was what you gave me:
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = #1
and that didn't seem to work (I tried values of #2 and #3). There
didn't
seem to be any difference-- the 10 measure rests were printed as church
rests, and the smaller ones were printed as breve rests.
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Re: Some random lilypond questions
On Aug 11, 2004, at 12:43 AM, David Rogers wrote:
As a temporary fix, is it possible to let it print the old-style signs
but add your
own number over top? The players would probably not be too disturbed...
I'm not exactly sure what you want, but maybe something like this?
\time 4/4
R1*2^\markup{\number 7}
Not tested, but it should print a breve rest that says 7 above it.
Of course, this
will screw up the bar numbering.
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Re: Swing indications in text markup?
On Aug 6, 2004, at 5:12 PM, Paul Scott wrote:
David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 03:43 pm, Benjamin Esham wrote:
I am typesetting a piece which has some swing sections. In these
sections, two eighth notes should be played as a tripletted quarter
note and eighth note.
A swing or jazz 8th is far less different from an 8th
than a triplet, or even than a quintuplet 3:2. Experiment
with very small time values now, it will save you time.
Yes but Benjamin's choice is already well established as a printing
convention for a style indication (at least in concert band music)
whether
it's technically correct or not. Most of us reading it get the point.
Thanks all for your responses. In this specific case, I wrote a piece
that, while not really jazz, has a section in which two eighths should
be
played as a tripletted quarter note and eighth note. (Conventions be
damned-- I wrote it that way! ;-))
Anyway, I'm still looking for a way to typeset the swing indication. I
played around a little with nesting a \score in a \markup, but even
after
a bunch of tweaking, the result looked... well, like crap. Are there
any
easier/cleaner methods, or should I just keep playing around with it?
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Some random lilypond questions
I have a bunch of mostly unrelated questions about lilypond. Any
responses to any of these items would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
- In concert band music, multi-measure rests always appear as a thick
horizontal bar with vertical flares at each end-- for an example of
this,
see the 17-measure rest in the Multi measure rests section in the
documentation. Is it possible to force lilypond to always use this kind
of rest, regardless of the length of the rest?
- Are there any plans to make text markups smarter with regards to
collisions? In a score I typeset recently, about half of the text
markups
collided with something or other. Will these just have to be tweaked by
hand, or will markups eventually get smarter?
- Can a \sffz dynamic command be added? One can make this using text
markups, but it seems like the real dynamic markings are more
horizontally centered on the notes than the markups.
- What is the preferred way to organize a .ly file containing more
than
one \score (e.g., multiple movements)? I'm using this right now, but I
wanted to see if there was some kind of preferred way of doing it.
\header {...}
\book {
\score {
\header {...} % stuff specific to this movement
\new Staff {
% notes go here
}
}
% more \scores go here
\bookpaper {...}
\paper {...}
}
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Re: Some random lilypond questions
On Aug 10, 2004, at 11:28 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
On 10-Aug-04, at 7:39 PM, Benjamin Esham wrote:
- In concert band music, multi-measure rests always appear as a thick
horizontal bar with vertical flares at each end-- for an example of
this,
see the 17-measure rest in the Multi measure rests section in the
documentation. Is it possible to force lilypond to always use this
kind
of rest, regardless of the length of the rest?
AFAIK, Lilypond automatically does this if you're using R rests
(instead of
r rests). Or did you want to display partial-measure rests like this?
I don't quite understand what you want.
To see what I'm talking about, take a look at the first example image
in the
Multi measure rests section of the user manual. The 17-measure rest
is as
I described it above, while the 4-measure rest is displayed
differently. I'm
trying to get all of the multi-measure rests to be displayed like the
17-
measure example (as I said, this seems to be the standard in every
concert
band piece I've seen).
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Re: metronome mark
On Aug 6, 2004, at 7:19 AM, Libero Mureddu wrote:
Il giorno 06/ago/04, alle 11:21, Mats Bengtsson ha scritto:
Unfortunately, you have found a bug that was introduced in version
2.2.5. If you have the possibility to install version 2.2.4 the
metronome markings should work correctly. I will send a bug report.
Unfortunately, it seems that via fink is not possible to install the
previous
version, fink doesn't find the 2.2.4. Do you think that the unstable
version
is stable enough at the moment? I'm not so expert to valuate this.
If you had the 2.2.4 package installed at one point, then there is a
very good
chance that you can still install it. Run the following commands in
the terminal:
cd /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/text
sudo dpkg --install lilypond_2.2.4-1_darwin-powerpc.deb
Assuming that you had the 2.2.4 package installed before, this should
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Swing indications in text markup?
I am typesetting a piece which has some swing sections. In these
sections, two eighth notes should be played as a tripletted quarter note
and eighth note. I'm trying to typeset an indication of this; usually,
it
appears as two beamed eighth notes, an equals sign, and then a quarter
and
an eighth with a 3 and a bracket under them.
After the swing sections are over, I'd like to show that eighths should
be
played straight by showing two eighths, an equals sign, and another
two
eighths. The tricky part here is that the equals sign should appear
directly above the bar line between the swing and non-swing measures.
I suppose the first item is possible by including a \score{} in a
\markup{}, but it seems to me that that would require a *lot* of code
(removing most of the engravers, for example) and it seems like there
should be an easier way. Can anyone tell me how to do either or both of
these two things? Thanks!
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Lilypond can't find its fonts
(This is being cross-posted to both lilypond-user and fink-users.
Please
reply to only one of these lists.)
I'm using LilyPond 2.3.8 (package lilypond-unstable 2.3.8-1) with fink
0.20.6 and the latest package descriptions, and my OS is Mac OS X.3.4.
I'm having all kinds of trouble with Lily. For starters, whenever I try
to process a file I get this:
| paper output to `newworld.ps'...
| warning: lily-guile: Can't find PFA font ecbx10
| warning: lily-guile: Can't find PFA font ecbx12
| warning: lily-guile: Can't find PFA font eccc10
| warning: lily-guile: Can't find PFA font ecrm10
| warning: lily-guile: Can't find PFA font ecti7
There are some oddities in the output. First, the fonts used for the
header all appear as some monospaced font (Courier?). I guess this is
expected, since Lily couldn't find the font files.
The next oddity is the kerning of the fonts in the PDF output. All of
the
text in the header, as well as textual dynamic markings, is squished
together and is mostly unreadable. Oddly, a space character still seems
to produce the same amount of white space; it's just the letters within
a
word that are compacted together.
I think one or more of fink's TeX-related packages may be at fault for
this next part (and hence the cross-posting). The PDF is only squished
like this when the PostScript output is run through ps2pdf (either
automatically by Lily or manually). If I open the PostScript file in
Preview (and the system converts it to PDF), the letter spacing is
normal.
I then tried to install lilypond-unstable-2.3.9-2, and when I tried to
process a file I got this:
| parts.ly:1:23: error: parse error, expecting `DOUBLE_ANGLE_OPEN' or
| `SEQUENTIAL' or `SIMULTANEOUS' or `'{'':
| brass = \notes \relativ
|e c' {
I assumed that this was just a change in syntax causing problems, but
there was also this line at the end:
| Interpreting music... error: can't find `feta20.afm'
| Music font has not been installed properly. Aborting
So it looks like the fonts aren't properly installed by the new package
either.
Can anyone shed any light on these problems? Many thanks!
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Re: help
On Jul 31, 2004, at 12:29 AM, Graham Percival wrote:
If Rosegarden/Noteedit/MusE/ any those graphical score editing
programs (that
also export lily code) run on windows and osx in addition to Linux, it
might
be better to point newbies at those programs. Lilypond could focus its
speciality (making beautiful sheet music), and those programs can do
their
thing (providing an easy-to-learn environment for creating sheet
music).
I realize this is a bit off-topic, but... is there a Lily-compatible
graphical score
editor that's compatible with OS X? I use Myriad's Melody Assistant to
write
scores, but it doesn't export in .ly-- it exports MIDI, ABC, and a
couple of other
formats, so it's possible to export indirectly, but I find it's easier
just to type the
whole score into Lilypond manually.
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Re: sharing our .ly
On Jul 9, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Erik Sandberg wrote:
On Friday 09 July 2004 13.12, Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote:
I think it would be profitable for all of us that we share our .ly
: to
my mind, full examples could be a good help for all of us.
What do you think of creating a your .ly list in the lilypond site,
with
clue words that describe the form, the different tricks used , and
so on ?
Mutopia (www.mutopiaproject.org) works quite well for this purpose,
IMHO..
though it focuses on music, not lilypond tricks. Apart from that, you
can
look at regression tests the Tips and Tricks section.
Do you think that anything more is needed?
Perhaps we could do something like the Vim project tips section [1]--
it's quite
helpful for finding little tips and tricks that other people have
posted. I think it
would most likely be just as helpful if we set up one for Lilypond
snippets.
(Something just occured to me: don't we have a wiki set up? Would it
make more
sense just to use that for little snippets of code, since it's already
set up?)
[1] http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/index.php
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Positioning of absolute dynamics
I am using lilypond 2.1.37, and am trying to typeset some absolute
dynamic
markings so that they are not strictly below the note in question, but
off to the
left (and therefore above where they would normally be). I looked in
the
manual, but couldn't seem to find anything. How is it possible to do
this?
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Re: 2 Questions: spacing-increment and bar numbers
On Mar 24, 2004, at 8:52 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
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I am using Lilypond 2.1.28 on Mac OS X 10.3.2. I can't manually set
the horizontal spacing of my music. The example given in the
reference manual,
\paper { \translator {
\ScoreContext SpacingSpanner \override #'spacing-increment =
#3.0
} }
does not work for me. I also tried putting a \set before
SpacingSpanner and removing the \override, but neither of these
seemed to work.
Can you try printing your piece with raggedright, to check if the
natural space is made bigger?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Do you want me to use the code
fragment
I provided, /and/ set raggedright? That wouldn't work, because
Lilypond dies
once it encounters the code I gave above.
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2 Questions: spacing-increment and bar numbers
(I'm sorry if I sent this twice; I didn't receive a copy of the message
even though I am set to receive copies of my own messages, so I
thought that maybe it hadn't been delivered.)
Hello,
I am using Lilypond 2.1.28 on Mac OS X 10.3.2. I can't manually set
the horizontal spacing of my music. The example given in the
reference manual,
\paper { \translator {
\ScoreContext SpacingSpanner \override #'spacing-increment = #3.0
} }
does not work for me. I also tried putting a \set before
SpacingSpanner and removing the \override, but neither of these
seemed to work.
Also I would like to display bar numbers for every bar in my piece,
and I'd like some of them (rehearsal numbers) to be larger and have
boxes around them. These latter have no pattern. What is the easiest
way to do this? I came up with the following solution:
bigBarA = \override Score.BarNumber #'print-function =
#(make-stencil-boxer 0.1 0.25 0.25 Text_item::print)
bigBarB = \override Score.BarNumber #'font-size = #2
resetBarsA = \revert Score.BarNumber #'print-function
resetBarsB = \revert Score.BarNumber #'font-size
and then:
\bar ||
\bigBarA \bigBarB
c1 % this is the bar with the large number before it
\resetBarsA \resetBarsB
I was hoping that someone here would be able to think of a better way.
Thanks for any responses to these questions!
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2 Questions: spacing-increment and bar numbers
Hello,
I am using Lilypond 2.1.28 on Mac OS X 10.3.2. I can't manually set
the horizontal spacing of my music. The example given in the
reference manual,
\paper { \translator {
\ScoreContext SpacingSpanner \override #'spacing-increment = #3.0
} }
does not work for me. I also tried putting a \set before
SpacingSpanner and removing the \override, but neither of these
seemed to work.
Also I would like to display bar numbers for every bar in my piece,
and I'd like some of them (rehearsal numbers) to be larger and have
boxes around them. These latter have no pattern. What is the easiest
way to do this? I came up with the following solution:
bigBarA = \override Score.BarNumber #'print-function =
#(make-stencil-boxer 0.1 0.25 0.25 Text_item::print)
bigBarB = \override Score.BarNumber #'font-size = #2
resetBarsA = \revert Score.BarNumber #'print-function
resetBarsB = \revert Score.BarNumber #'font-size
and then:
\bar ||
\bigBarA \bigBarB
c1 % this is the bar with the large number before it
\resetBarsA \resetBarsB
I was hoping that someone here would be able to think of a better way.
Thanks for any responses to these questions!
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